Path of Exile

[blissful plume]

aren't they supposed to be harder than ubers

[tight kiln]

no?

since when was the plan to make them harder than ubers

[heavy blaze]

harvest card gamba. i brick 1 card this league but was like well try again

[tight kiln]

Every card i tried its gone

Theres never once i actually got a set

[tight kiln]

oh no

people caught up with how broken essence is

fuck

[heavy blaze]

wdym caught up essence was broken for 3 league now

most people knew it since it is a valid good money strat

just boring since you only make money if you sell in bulk

i found 2x eldrich minion divine altar and like 5 divine boss altar this league

[golden chasm]

nice, I only got 1 for minions so far

[tight kiln]

nah

essence is even more broken last league and this league

the rest are so-so because the amp wasnt there

but people are knowing the strats now zz

i need to find some other farming strats now

[tight kiln]

god damn i didnt get a drop and my mapper got me one

[tight kiln]

Mathil effect lmao

Viper strike of mamva is now 4 div

Bino is now 9 div

[tight kiln]

you need to send a lot more dust now lmao

[blissful plume]

wtf

[blissful plume]

max stat bino's?

[tight kiln]

yeah

i think average one is 2 div?

the gem is now 4 div tho

oh nvm

i should play it as a 2nd character once im done upgrading my shit on necromancer, which is still far away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqzokDeqOYk

[blissful plume]

so we need minimum 277k dust now?

[tight kiln]

No thats shipment value

I think it got nerfed on the lower end

Cutedog's server has people postimg their trial and error

[tight kiln]

https://discord.gg/A47xTa8z cutedog's server

[tight kiln]

28 mil shipment

and 1 power rune

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/d96ZE6qypPs?si=m_x2Hs7yaGELBPJd

[blissful plume]

Hh for ubers?

[tight kiln]

im broke again

[heavy blaze]

chally rewards look good

[tight kiln]

uhh

new shipment strat is

2 verisium bars + 1k dust to either of the 2 nearest ports

if riben fell you get scarabs

if ngakanu you get 5 to 7 stack decks

low crop shipment is deadge

[blissful plume]

Wtf deranged new method is this

[tight kiln]

i maxed out my inventory of materials and its only 16 mil shipment

which is absolutely shit

you gotta keep till 100k+ crops or some shit

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/uOJYB9bN-fw?si=GwlC7vPsIG14dSmD only in poe 1 mechanic is explained SIMPLIFIED and its fucking 33 minutes video

[blissful plume]

but betrayal is just alch n go to cata

no one cares about any of the rewards too much though

like its great if u can get the 2 ppl in the correct safehouse

but then its like not worth the effort besides cata rush

[tight kiln]

brother everyone is doing gravicius transport farm lol

[tight kiln]

Windrippers are 5c for 110k dust. Brine crown are 30c for 350k dust.
If u looking for c to dust efficiency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuIPTfcMRjY

[toxic wing]

Imagine farming gold

Do you use the mappers kuo?

[tight kiln]

ye

ive gotten valdo boxes

divs

relinquary key

but majority of the times it is TUHRASH

TRASH* sorry starting speaking like cutedog

[toxic wing]

the cutedog influence

@tight kiln does this seem accurate? Someone made a guide for it

[tight kiln]

hjuh

this is like

sorted out since day 3 of the l;eague lol

ye its accurate

[toxic wing]

pro

now i just gotta find the motivation to farm gold

[tight kiln]

brother ive been sharing all the info here

just do essence farming

you have more than enough damage

im gonna swap to viper strike once i have enough money for a proper set up

[toxic wing]

the viper mamba stuff?

saw the mathil video on it

[tight kiln]

ye

[toxic wing]

the mathil effect is op

[tight kiln]

im doing pathfinder instead

i mean

people are doing 100% delirium on a 4 link

with pathfinder

[toxic wing]

like a 4l chest?

[tight kiln]

the skill is just outright broken its not even mathil effect

ye

[toxic wing]

I saw a tickster version of it

[tight kiln]

yeah mathil is playing the trickster ver

[toxic wing]

you focus on poison dmg and not chaos dmg for it right?

[tight kiln]

uhhh

yeah but poison is chaos

so lol

[toxic wing]

don't they scale differently though

i remember making the mistake the first time i played ed

and went poison instead

[tight kiln]

ED doesnt poison

is your first mistake

lmao

[toxic wing]

yeah i'm aware
but i didn't know back then

[tight kiln]

they are both chaos damage

[toxic wing]

so if you use viperstrike on a hexblast build with perfect agony

it could work?

it also has a lot of crit scaling

[tight kiln]

yes but you need 100% chance to poison

thats the idea anyway

perfect agony

stack 6 med cluster with low tolerance

[toxic wing]

are you using a lot of aura's as well?

[tight kiln]

no

[toxic wing]

no need for a lot of mana reservation of skills then?

[tight kiln]

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/Missionz/BillyTheBraveAndFoolish?type=exp&i=2&search=skills%3DViper%2BStrike%2Bof%2Bthe%2BMamba%26sort%3Ddps

nbo why would you need anything

[toxic wing]

oh you go claw?

[tight kiln]

either bino

or full phys claw/dagger

[toxic wing]

does it melt ubers as well?

or t17

[tight kiln]

yes

brother

if you can do 100% deli on a 4L what makes you think it cant melt ubers

do you know how hard 100% deli is

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g_k9dvtH1k

all ubers for you

[toxic wing]

i don't really do them

i'll check if i have enough divines on the side to change over later

if only i could get more power runes though,they sell like hotcakes

[tight kiln]

if i dont make back 14 divs im gonna cry

oh its cheaper in chaos

here goes nothing

[tight kiln]

gravicius transport farming for you

[blissful plume]

Not like that image matters for us since that will never happen

[heavy blaze]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1essnhg/loot_from_36_t17s_farmed_by_mappers/

decent

[tight kiln]

Wtf unnatural instinct

LOL

Damn how many t10 mappers do you even need to do this

[tight kiln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iFyJ-_l_KQs?si=ElBGttFbnyJikA-j

[tight kiln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XnmCpDZOgIo?si=4Sac0zA6fAaqAzeq

[tight kiln]

WTF

[tight kiln]

swapped builds and broke again

https://pobb.in/My-aWL8dskWu damn this will take awhile.

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/eYaSU9UCe0w?si=a1_ByhNqVv36sij4

[golden chasm]

I haven't got a single div card that is worth more than 1d this league

[heavy blaze]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ManlyInspiringSwordJKanStyle-i-ZpcaLXC7xYcO0a

[tight kiln]

did you see alk's reaction

[tight kiln]

time to start scrying

[tight kiln]

Me

Im still playing

[tight kiln]

finally STRONGGE

[tight kiln]

finally done with league

https://pobb.in/0l7jxif-XdV9

[toxic wing]

Pro now play gaunlet

[tight kiln]

nah

im done with poe

TFD time

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6FWvUT2g4

[blissful plume]

TLSS61025

[tight kiln]

hoyl shit

the game got totally reworked

lmao

its another game rn

[blissful plume]

new season started already?

[tight kiln]

nope

24th october

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzSAd5wSzag

[blissful plume]

new season will be season of on death effects

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/EV2JONBvjYQ?si=mC1MWYHqXcQm1AoR

[tight kiln]

damn

im gonna enjoy TLI

they are almost on par with poe at this stage in terms of game enjoyability.

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi9x5vDmJl8&ab_channel=Torchlight%3AInfinite

i really like how they are just willing to put shit out there to test to let the market speak for itself.

instead of taking the safe route

patch notes ideally out today

[blissful plume]

why is tenkiei game analyst when he's also maxroll?

[tight kiln]

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitaEoZdkTE

its time to prepare

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/3SMBlplMbqE?si=BMLrtjG8Noqyqd2Z

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMknxJzY6U

uh oh

my wallet's in trouble

[toxic wing]

Is that skin for the witch class in torchlight?

Or is it like two hairstyles or something

[tight kiln]

oh no its the new character thats ocming out

selena

[blissful plume]

there's no witch class if the witch class has been divided between 5 characters

[tight kiln]

characters in torchlight is a little different

[blissful plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcfH712i1S4

[tight kiln]

they dont expand to different classes

they are all separated characters

[blissful plume]

only difference is the traits

[tight kiln]

yeah

[blissful plume]

basically upgradable ascendancies

i read bing einharjar is good early

wonder how it plays

[tight kiln]

im probably trying gemma 3

just nede to press 1 button and run around

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCS9l7bNLsw

the standard starter

frost teraa gemma 2

[blissful plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TorchlightInfinite/s/pSDcxqpJER

No more frozen elites

[tight kiln]

they were never frozen iirc

idk im playing gemma 3

so ignite based

[blissful plume]

Ugh feeling like playing bing arrow einharjars

[blissful plume]

But no more legendary hero memories, just 3 new generic hero memories that only drop from lvl 85 mobs

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/WpszyzyquMQ?si=lVg_8TzfEBW28dMb

[blissful plume]

carino3? oh minigun but using hammerdin blades

[blissful plume]

Mc youga2 ded in the water with the 75% reaping nerf

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiV7o0SLCqc

[blissful plume]

Sentry bing is dead, fuck

[tight kiln]

i might do this

str stacking hammer of ash

with the new legendaries

[blissful plume]

Do you go melee till endgame or swap?

[tight kiln]

all the way

hammer of ash probably can carry

im going this build probably.

[blissful plume]

Maybe I'll go the same or try nami

Surely league starting the new hero will not go poorly

[tight kiln]

it never has tho

erika 2 on release was so broken

[tight kiln]

but the new character needs to buy tho

[tight kiln]

oh

late game you swap to groundshaker huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_gnEQ9lVNU

wow

it turned from mmo to arpg

[blissful plume]

Apparently you can choose the new char and buy the pass from the selection screen

[toxic wing]

When does that new season start from torchlight?

[blissful plume]

24th or 25th depending on timezones

10am gmt+8 on the 25th

[blissful plume]

hmm ppl in the discord hinting that bing may be insane with shotgun skills like blazing bullet

[blissful plume]

Oh the devs listen to the boards and nerf shit accordingly to whatever theorycrafts happen before season starts

No wonder everyone going hush hush till day 1

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/7o57q89b_LA?si=elnAh2Des3Uhd86A

damn now i feel like playing selina

[blissful plume]

Inb4 she gets nerfed

[tight kiln]

nerfing the character on your battle pass

why to stop them from getting money?

[blissful plume]

I mean they're nerfing things that players theorycraft as strong until season starts

Maybe not nerf selena but the skills or equipment

[tight kiln]

how to nerf when currently nobody knows how it would work

[blissful plume]

https://www.taptap.cn/moment/595992469095581592 change log

[blissful plume]

Apparently things got nerf when people theorycrafted after patch notes

[tight kiln]

Whistling Gale: Raging Roll (Sublime): Increases the Strike Frequency by (10.5-11.5)% per channel, adjusted to (8-8.4)%;

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu\

oh

wait

thats the new skill

not the base skill

oh thats pretty okay then

[blissful plume]

Yeah that's the new support

[blissful plume]

lol they actually nerfed howling gale before maint ended

[tight kiln]

just level with icebound beam

[blissful plume]

Yeah apparently the skill with the new mtx is crazy good

I wonder why

[tight kiln]

ye

icebound beam

is fucking nuts lmao

t3 map

[tight kiln]

man

the drops are so bad

[tight kiln]

bruh FE drops so bad they are buffing iot

[blissful plume]

Lol ya

[toxic wing]

@tight kiln you play via steam right?

or does it have it's own website

had to use the vpn to get it though

[tight kiln]

ye via steam

[toxic wing]

should be good

then*

[blissful plume]

Steam or Google play store

You can link accounts anyway

[toxic wing]

it doesn't have an ingame ip check thing or anything like that right?

[tight kiln]

dont think so

[toxic wing]

well still dowloading so gotta wait either way

[tight kiln]

this will be your time killer till poe2

[toxic wing]

if i like it atleast

but yeah poe has gone silent for the time being

[tight kiln]

ye they are all hands on deck for poe2 rn

for sure

[toxic wing]

so long as it's not ruthless or too close it i'll try it ig

[blissful plume]

Ruthless2 would be the poe killer

[blissful plume]

Why would a game on steam have an ip checker?

Or is it not available for you on steam so you had to use vpn?

[toxic wing]

this yeah
had to get it via steamdb using a vpn

also which character do you guys recommend

no clue who plays like what

is maxroll gg a good place for builds and what not for the game?

[blissful plume]

Maxroll is good for leveling but the entire meta has changed

Look up carino3 youga2 and rehan anger

Also crafting is basically an item editor like harvest league

[blissful plume]

DRAW1025

[blissful plume]

there's a b2 video about making 100fe/hr but can't find it

[toxic wing]

got to lvl 67
the tier 2 dungeons are kinda becoming difficult tbh

[toxic wing]

also to get more skill points i need to equip other gear and fill the bar of that piece?

[tight kiln]

ytes

the energy is basically what you need to unlock more skill

if you';re strugling you can start crafting items

they basically make crafting a must now lol

[blissful plume]

yeah no more easy tabulas

[blissful plume]

pp4vPJO7Ee+GAgAAAAABdA==

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KM1tY3E4Y/

[tight kiln]

lol

this candle alone is 400 FE

[blissful plume]

nice that's cheap with how mistville churns out FE

also moto2 is bugged to hell with the traits not working at all

no SRS for anyone this season

[tight kiln]

damn

this is really

the worse league ever

lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/TorchlightInfinite/s/mx8oat1IhO

[blissful plume]

It's 3.15 all over again

[blissful plume]

They even made the season pass hero not feel powerful

[toxic wing]

The water girl?

Are bp heroes usually broken then?

Or do they nerf them after that

[blissful plume]

Nerf next season but never pre season like they did this time

People were theorycrafting best skills to use and then they nerfed those by 30-40% before maint ended

[toxic wing]

oh yeah where do you get those tinder things to craft gear btw? @tight kiln

i have the purple crystals

but getting the other mat i have no clue

[tight kiln]

which

[toxic wing]

i'll check later again once i play,still have no clue what most items mean

i did manage to craft an upgrade for my gloves

the wand stuff is still confusing though

[blissful plume]

The embers?

Same as the flame sand

Pray that mobs drop then

Or spec your atlas to drop more embers

[tight kiln]

i dropped selina

fucking too expensive

playing path of flamea gemma 3 now

[toxic wing]

Fake pro smh

the fine ember thingy

the crystals i can more or less farm

but the ember thingy i run out of rather fast

almost made it to t4 btw

dmg is kinda starting to lack tbh

[blissful plume]

what build?

yeah embers you gotta spec into it in the atlas and pray your drops dupe

[toxic wing]

Frostbitten Heart Gemma
using this atm https://maxroll.gg/torchlight-infinite/build-guides/frostfire-gemma-frostbitten-heart-leveling-guide

i'm at the 150 something energy part

[blissful plume]

Huh this season they made chalk spirit worst than kong

[toxic wing]

chalk spirit?

[blissful plume]

Pactspirit

[toxic wing]

ah i'm not familiar yet with most terms

are those the pets you summon for ?

[blissful plume]

Chalk spirit is the name of the FE pactspirit

Yeah

[toxic wing]

for the atlas map btw

[blissful plume]

Yeah Gemma2 got fucked hard this patch

[toxic wing]

do you rush map nodes?

[blissful plume]

If your gear and dmg is fine

[toxic wing]

i took some points in the droprate tree so far

and the rest in maps

[blissful plume]

So far sustain hasn't been a problem without the nodes for me

I'm speccing into flame fuel and ember drop rates and mistville

Cause that's where the fe drops

Gemma2 used to breeze thru everything until this patch where they fucked affliction and reap

So yeah you lost your 2 biggest sources of dmg on gear

[toxic wing]

is the guide not up to date then?

it still recommends reap and what not

[blissful plume]

Somehow youga2 mind control is going strong despite the nerfs

You still want reap

[toxic wing]

when i take a certain reap node my dmg drops

a bit much

[blissful plume]

It just got nerfed by 60%

[toxic wing]

guess i'll try gamma for a bit more then

any there any other fun characters to try btw?

[blissful plume]

Kuo is doing gemma3 hammer of ash

It's melee but works

[toxic wing]

gemma3 is the fire version?

[blissful plume]

Yes

[toxic wing]

wait so gemma 1 is a thing too then?

[blissful plume]

Yeah base gemma

Frost fire

[toxic wing]

oh i thought it was like poe where you ascend into one of the two

[blissful plume]

Nope

All the different traits are their own heroes

There's carino 3 and I hear it's doing fine

It's like a cyclone build but with blades spinning around you instead of you spinning

[toxic wing]

guess i could try that next

this is what i have atm btw

[blissful plume]

Youga2 mind control is the same as Gemma2 but erosion

But somehow is enduring the affliction and reap nerfs

[toxic wing]

do you go affliction/reap on your weapon still?

[blissful plume]

You could try running t7 drop chance for t8 beacons and sell those

[toxic wing]

or do you get affliction on your other gear now

still on t4 atm

so not sure how far i'm off

[blissful plume]

Very far off

If you already feel like dmg as gemma2 is lacking

[toxic wing]

i'm at 81k atm

[blissful plume]

No idea I only saw those builds at a glance at the people playing it weren't in agony

[blissful plume]

On the dummy?

Test dummy is more accurate

[toxic wing]

oh

[blissful plume]

And general mapping feelings

Like are the mobs too tanky

Or are they getting gibbed

You can also check hero rankings to see what skills and equipment the people playing those heroes use

[toxic wing]

what dps number should you look at for the dummy?

average dps?

[blissful plume]

For new builds I prefer looking to gooba and coffeebns

Gooba for moto2 builds if it works but not this season

So he switched to youga2

[blissful plume]

Ya avg dps

[toxic wing]

avg dps in 5sec was 489153

[blissful plume]

Wow that's low

Should be hitting 1 mil at least

[toxic wing]

guess i'll have to figure something out

is the league mechanic worth messing with btw

i rarely have gotten anything good out of it so far

[blissful plume]

Nope

Anything below purple paper is bad

General rule of thumb is never do season mechanic below the equivalent of timemark 7

Or in your case do the lower ones of they give you enough points to spend in artistry

[toxic wing]

i usually just put some stuff in and do the min amount of rooms and get out

how bad are those dps numbers btw now that i'm lvl 80 ?

[blissful plume]

Should be hitting a million before 80

[tight kiln]

nah im doing path of flames

[blissful plume]

Not the hammer anymore?

[tight kiln]

no

i never did hammer of ash

path of flames you just run around and things die

way faster to map clear

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/XqJgUO5XO7I?si=5hpmijT4-X8wgffz

[tight kiln]

very pog

[blissful plume]

Yeah looks like @toxic wing needs to reroll

[toxic wing]

It's that bad huh

I saw the ice character at the top and assumed she was good

[blissful plume]

she was good then this season did a 3.15 and meta changed

[toxic wing]

@blissful plume around what tier do the market embers drop?

the ones you use to trade with

[blissful plume]

the red crystals?

t5 at least

[toxic wing]

i guess i could try to farm some of those atleast

for the other character

[blissful plume]

path of progression gives some

[toxic wing]

it doesn't carry over to other characters right?

[blissful plume]

no idea its a new season change

just that ssf doesn't have it for reasons

[tight kiln]

those are FE

they nerfed the rates now

so you come across some at t7-2

you start getting them at t8-0

at t8-0 you need about 100m dps

t8-1 you can do 1 bil and it still feels bad the scaling this league is fucking stupid.

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zus8ux73s&ab_channel=PathofExile

[blissful plume]

they just buffed t7 fe rates

https://youtu.be/Isus2QkI4AY?si=5mF9v4hIIFEXaRjj with this vid out, its not gonna cost 50FE

[tight kiln]

again?

[blissful plume]

Here is a quick overview of the patches implemented over the last 24 hours:

Increased Drop Rates:
The drop rates of Flame Elementium have been increased in Timemarks 7, 7-1, and 7-2.

Skill Fixes:
Resolved an issue where the skill effect of Haunting Abomination persisted after casting a removed skill.
Fixed the issue where the support skill [Rain of Arrows: Tracking] did not function when equipped in the Ranger of Glory's support skill slot for Divineshot.
Fixed the issue where Cateye Erika | Lightning Shadow could not deal damage to Nightmare Roots.
Fixed an issue with the damage anomaly caused by the Bubble generated by Tide Whisperer Selena's Sing with the Tide trait, which caused the skill released by the Bubble to receive repeated bonuses.

Legendary Gear Fixes:
Fixed the issue where the removed Legendary Gear "Hero's Gaze" could appear in Blessings from Gods.
Addressed the abnormal issue preventing the following Legendary Gear from dropping: [Sun's Embrace], [Divine Body Burnout], [Flying Light at Daybreak], [Wings of Light], [Void Embankment], [Double Rainbow], [Clenched Spring], [Mourner's Shadow], [Furious Man's Loud Song], [Compensatory Life], [Warden's Breastpin], [Undying Faith].

Affix Level Adjustment:
Corrected the crafting level of the T1 affix "Gear Energy Shield%" on INT Gloves, which was incorrectly set at level 100.

The Frozen Canvas Season Mechanic- Gameplay Adjustments:
Adjusted spawn locations for traps like Cogwheel and Candelabrum.
Fixed the Remaining Attempts display issue.
Resolved disconnection issues on certain maps.
Corrected the Minimap icon not disappearing after opening the Splendor Egg.
The outer ring talent of the season Pactspirit Rainbowpaint Owl will no longer affect Treasure Chest Cells.
Temporarily blocked Brushstroke effects that may cause map disconnections.
Item Drop Fixes
Ensured "Brilliant Axis" and "Decayed Axis" only drop within the Clockwork Ballet gameplay.
Fixed the issue preventing Thunder Slash Drop - Stride (Noble) from dropping.

Pro Builds Sorting:
Activated comprehensive sorting for Pro Builds.

General Fixes:
Fixed an abnormal Remaining Attempts count when teaming up on maps.
Fixed the issue of abnormal disconnections in some cases.
Fixed the issue with abnormal card confusion at low Timemark.
Fixed the issue where The Frozen Canvas Season Mechanic had a chance to drop abandoned support skills.
Fixed the issue where the Dream Interpretation system may report an error when interpreting some Affixes.
Fixed various multilingual display issues and interface errors.
The Spore production effect of the Imbue skill "Corrosion Imbue" now has a 1-second interval.

[tight kiln]

ye

thats the very 1st patch deployed

and you still dont see shit

i have triple FE pets on btw i dont even see shit in 7-2

[blissful plume]

I've been seeing 1 or 2 fe drops this morning after they posted the patch notes

[toxic wing]

I only got 1 fe so far

[tight kiln]

Its okay early game you need flame sands more than anything

What are you playing now

[tight kiln]

1 wand almost done

[tight kiln]

if you guys have problems earning FE just farm black sail

the scraps are easy money

5 for 1 FE

then for void terminal jsut go scraps or dupe scraps or quant

[tight kiln]

LETS GO 2ND WAND DONE

almost a billion

[toxic wing]

this pro

meanwhile i just reached t7

4-5 mil dps but still kinda struggling

[toxic wing]

what's that btw?

[tight kiln]

a mechanic

what are you playing

black sail drops the upgrade materials for your hero trait thingy

[blissful plume]

getting at least 1 FE every mistville chest

[tight kiln]

im buying compass and doing dream + blacksail

https://youtu.be/woQF8Ezrpa8?si=84RN50C3dw7yCneF

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/sCofvlim6Eo?si=d1WCmoW8QUpcAMVM

[toxic wing]

Gamma ice dot

[tight kiln]

oh

she got nerfed so hard

[blissful plume]

Ya might as well reroll a new hero

Hard to scale gemma3 without a lot of currency this league

[blissful plume]

Did you start t8 on your selena before switching to gemma2?

[tight kiln]

ye

[tight kiln]

thats not true you just need to know what to craft lol

pof has been a league starter since gemma 3 released

[blissful plume]

Wait, 3 is fire right then I meant gemma2

[blissful plume]

How much dmg were u doing when u started t8?

N did u have the helm n necklace by then?

[tight kiln]

100m\

ye

no helm

what helm

i was using t3 helm

the neckalce is like

7 FE

the armour is like 10 FE?

this is your bis amulet

you can easily find one

for lesser than 5 FE

this is the armour to find

try get ilevel 82 above to get higher energy

BiS boots

this is like another 5 FE

then 2x traceless pain

the rest all rare self crafted

its honestly not that hard to get pof running

[tight kiln]

gloves done

[blissful plume]

No I mean when you were still playing selena

Not gemma3

[toxic wing]

how expensive are we talking?

i have around 15 fe atm

still in the beginnings of t7

also are there any other high lvl ring bases that give another implicit other than minion % dmg?

i only keep seeing the minion so far

[blissful plume]

there's element resists

[blissful plume]

if u did kuo's gemma3 probably less since u can farm faster and less of a struggle to get dps from crafting your own gear

[toxic wing]

@ kuo guide please

i'm still getting used to the crafting so far

i pretty much use crafted items only though

since the auction house is too expensive

[toxic wing]

30 ish fe now

[toxic wing]

what's my priority here to improve?

i'm using both atm

[tight kiln]

there's no guide

im following hero rankings

[tight kiln]

you need terra charges helmet and the armor

[toxic wing]

what's hero ranking again

also what's terra charges

[tight kiln]

bruh

frost terra relies on terra charges to do more damage

lmao

[toxic wing]

sounds like chinese to me

i do use ground divide

[tight kiln]

you need this helmet

and this armor

[toxic wing]

oh

i deleted that armor a lot before

[tight kiln]

lol

[toxic wing]

and this i guess

is it cause it's max rolls or something

[tight kiln]

no

frost terra is more expensive than pog

pof*

[toxic wing]

bruh

i could have made money

[tight kiln]

your terra charge candles

[toxic wing]

manditory what are candles

i haven't dropped one yet

[tight kiln]

extra shit

[toxic wing]

unless it's not in maps

[tight kiln]

oh they only drop from a mechanic called city of aeterna

they dont drop from maps

they are here on the right

[toxic wing]

oh yeah do you know where you get the items to enter that nightmare mist zone

mistvale or something

or if a certain mechanic drops it

[tight kiln]

ye

its from a mob

[toxic wing]

any mob?

[tight kiln]

nope

specific mob

you can make it appear through the atlas tree

[toxic wing]

which tree is that if you know

[tight kiln]

same

the eye

one

[toxic wing]

this is what i have atm

[toxic wing]

is it better than nightmare?

[tight kiln]

uhhh

i mean the eyes itself are 0.6 FE each

lol

[blissful plume]

i mean doing the mechanic, the chest drops at least 1 FE

[tight kiln]

ye the mechanics are nice to do

its always profitable to juice maps or run mechanics in this game

except for dark surge

dark surge sucks

[blissful plume]

Dark surge looks like a legendary mechanic to run now

Gotta combo it with the priceless gear drops

[tight kiln]

nah

it will still suck

you need the pet for dark surge to be worth it

maxed out tooi

[tight kiln]

aaadn belt done

[blissful plume]

New skin for dark surge pet

Looks like a starfish

[blissful plume]

hmm

[tight kiln]

Everyone getting big drops while im looting 1 FE by 1 FE lmao

[blissful plume]

its quest drop

[blissful plume]

oh with dps pact i'm almost 1b

[tight kiln]

pog

higher than me

[blissful plume]

no dps pets

no idea if i should sell or use the pedigree

400FE not that hard to earn somehow

for the 1 min channeled stack candles

[tight kiln]

what are you playing again?

[blissful plume]

selena ice beam not wilt

[tight kiln]

you dont need min stack tho?

you only need the min stack ring

no?

[blissful plume]

f7wSYpgFEe+MjAAAAAAAPQ==

[tight kiln]

or does the number of stack affect your projectile shot

im at work

[blissful plume]

ring and candles min stacks make the shots appear alot more

since its like an insta-phase to max stacks

[tight kiln]

ye you just need to hit the max min-stacks but increasing it more doesnt do anything

you're supposedly at 5 max stacks and currently at 4 min stacks

if you get +3 ring to hit +7 min stacks, the 2 +1 min stack candle doesnt do anything

unless im wrong?

unless more stacks = more projectile damage or something

[blissful plume]

doesnt look like it

just more min max channeled stacks lets me reach cap faster for more ice bullets generated a second

probably lets me get rid of channeled prep for more dmg

[tight kiln]

ye if you get the ring

huh

channel prep gives +2 min?

[blissful plume]

yeah

[tight kiln]

oh ye then the candles is to replace channel prep then

but you still need the +3 ring

its better to get the ring first

how much is the ring anyway

compared to 2 candles

should be cheaper than 800 FE

[blissful plume]

what's the +3 ring?

candle can go as low as 150

[tight kiln]

windbreath convergence i think

theres 2 windbreath

one +3 max

one +3 min

dont buy the wrong one

[blissful plume]

oh dispersion

[toxic wing]

@tight kiln what other characters would you recommend for a second character btw? t7 t2 is lowkey kicking my ass,i have around 20-25m dps but it can drop off on the 85 doll

if it can farm t8 and what not the better

[blissful plume]

You need about 900 million for t8

[toxic wing]

no way thats real

[blissful plume]

T7 t2 needs at least 500m for full affix comfy clear

The spike to t8 is large

[toxic wing]

full affix means boosted with the diamond thingies to max rank ?

or all the mod affixes?

[blissful plume]

Diamond thingies

[toxic wing]

i have no clue still what to call them

[blissful plume]

Basically like 6 mod naps

[toxic wing]

the things that boost drop rate but add map mods

[blissful plume]

Ya

[toxic wing]

i can kinda clear t7 2 maps

although elites can be eh

or bosses

i can kill them though but it takes like 5 mins sometimes

[blissful plume]

Yeah comfy clear is less than 5mins

Per rare

[toxic wing]

can erika i think she's called do t8 better than gamma 2 when it comes to comparing gearing and the crafting cost?

[blissful plume]

Gemma3 does that better

According to others, youga2

Everyone else is subpar this league

[toxic wing]

i have been seeing ppl play that fish girl as well

the battlepass unit i think it was

does gemma3 play like gemma 2 but fire ?

[tight kiln]

ive seen people in cutedog's server doing 2 bil on frost terra and he also swapped. lmao. the easiest would be gemma 3 or selina 2 if you're willing to grind for selina 2

at least with gemma 3 i can help you

but path of flames is a little wonky

cuz the area is pretty low

[toxic wing]

is the gear easier to craft on her?

[tight kiln]

i wouldnt say easier

just straight forward

really straightforward

remember to take this from mail

[toxic wing]

is that shared to all characters?

i claimed the first one cause it had atlas nodes

[tight kiln]

ye

account bound

[toxic wing]

so wait if i make a new character it carries over?

[tight kiln]

yes the pulls carry over

and the gems

[toxic wing]

oh nice

[tight kiln]

like

uh

your stash tabs basically

all microtransactions are account bounded

[toxic wing]

selina 2 is paid then?

if you need to grind for it i'm gonna assume

[tight kiln]

selina is paid

theres no 2

gemma 3 is free this season

selina is from battle pass

usually any new characters of the new season is from battle pass

[toxic wing]

i thought they were skins tbh

in that menu with the past battlepasses atleast

so i should prob just save up the orbs from the events then?

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/FDUa35LWRlU?si=feWiHJYYR-qVZYFn

[tight kiln]

which orbs

[toxic wing]

let me check actualy

the pact spirit crystal and battle pact spirit ones @tight kiln

[tight kiln]

uhh

battle spirit is honestly w/e

pact spirit = pets that have specific purposes to mechanics to boost their loot

[toxic wing]

is it good to pull on this banner?

appearance orbs i have no clue what to do with though

[blissful plume]

bing y1 y2 c2 moto1 e1 e2

[tight kiln]

appearance orbs = just skins

like uh

cosmetics

[toxic wing]

i'll just keep those for now then

[toxic wing]

what do the numbers mean btw

or letters

[tight kiln]

youga 1

youga 2

carino 2

[blissful plume]

Erika 1

Erika 2

So ya going erika shudnt be bad

[blissful plume]

Sure why not if you get the free orbs for it since it's the newbie banner that disappears

[tight kiln]

nah

erika is bad

nerfed too hard

[blissful plume]

This league dps pets actually have a use thx to the nerfs

[tight kiln]

idk i dont like using dps pets lol

[blissful plume]

The torchlight discord considers her good enough as s tier

[toxic wing]

hm so youga and gemma 3 are safe choices then?

[tight kiln]

youga is what tuna is curreently playing

youga 1

spell burst chain lightning

its getting expensive now as well

[toxic wing]

i craft my gear pretty much so prob won't affect me

[tight kiln]

nah you need the unique

s

also i wouldnt trust TLI discord lmao

given how fucking braindead the meta is in NA

frost terra gemma 2 is still top 3 in NA LOL

[toxic wing]

i play it

[blissful plume]

Oh ya, just use hero rankings for Asia then

[tight kiln]

at least in asia you can see what the chinese are cooking and its actually working

[toxic wing]

where can you find the sea hero ranking btw?

[tight kiln]

erika people are swapping to chain lightning because they have 10k FE to spare now

you cant unless you're playing asia

[toxic wing]

playing on eu atm cause too much lag

ah

on a side note though can you trust max roll past leveling?

[tight kiln]

uhhh yeah kinda

[toxic wing]

i have been seeing ppl say it's dogsht for mapping

or endgame

but ok for llvlng

[tight kiln]

the issue is there's little creators to help with TLi

unlike poe

and there's no such thing as a PoB

so you can only commit by buying

cant theorycraft

[toxic wing]

hm what are some good tli creators that are usually good or well test their builds?

[tight kiln]

usually the poe creators

the pure TLI ones are Gooba and DonTheCrown

milkybk is a poe player but also plays TLI heavily

oh there's also CoffeeBnS

these 4

[blissful plume]

Gotta go b2 for the creator vids

[tight kiln]

ye

the ones that are actually cooking are chinese creators

EN ones just steals them

[blissful plume]

They completed last season in 3 days before quitting

[toxic wing]

i'll check around and see if i can some guides then

[blissful plume]

Huh just changing from lightning imbue to precise corrosion imbue gave me 1b

[tight kiln]

pro

more dps than me

[tight kiln]

lol i changed to my next build's ring and got a +1 curse on my candle and jumped 2 bil+ dps

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7npMF9ZBOA&ab_channel=DonTheCrown

[blissful plume]

Does it mention that the chests at lvl 7 are the best money makers?

The gameplay chest type

[tight kiln]

idk

havent watched it

but even then the chests are so rare

[blissful plume]

But getting them to 7 is so worth

[tight kiln]

finally im lacking like 2 gears to completely finishing swapping

time to farm

[tight kiln]

[toxic wing]

Finally beat the traveler with sht dps

I was expecting a 12 min fight but it only took like 5-7 mins. Lost like 4 portals in phase 3 cause of those lasers

[tight kiln]

nice one

time for t8

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_SZdCClZLc&ab_channel=PathofExile

[tight oak]

i wonder if my pc can even run poe 2

[tight kiln]

i hope poe2 is more optimized than poe 1

my 3080 lags in delirium

i tried delirium + breach and my house fucking tripped.

[blissful plume]

Would those mechanics be in base poe2?

[tight kiln]

i assumed so

[blissful plume]

just added chilling spike noble to my beam

[tight kiln]

pogg

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlDxCvvYvY

[toxic wing]

pros

i can kinda do t8 up to nearly the max juice but if i run into one of those trog elites thats hasted and melee's you i die

or melee units ig

haven't tried a t8 zone boss yet but i cant really sustain t8 maps so yeah

[tight kiln]

You need to add beacon nodes to sustain t8

[tight kiln]

7Qw3pJvUEe+UIAAAAAAAHw==

This is my current atlas strat

[blissful plume]

i read that profound t8, you don't need beacon sustain at all

[blissful plume]

just buy t8 beacons till then to save time

[tight kiln]

i sustain my own now

and have extra to sell

[blissful plume]

but why thunder wastes and not either glacial or lava

aren't those 2 money makers when you have excess

[tight kiln]

eh

not much difference

glacial and lava 1.8 each

thunder wastes 1.5

im running thunder waste as well so

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/PD2gjDJEqvk?si=0yioe9se_6iweuKj

[tight kiln]

ye

tuna was playing this

everyone is palying this now actually

the mainstream

but asia server everyone playing gemma 3 shackle of malice ignite

both actually.

[blissful plume]

apparently CN already started it early on

[tight kiln]

ye

they play on asia server

im literally looking at CN meta changes on hero ranking lmao

im on shackle of malice ignite now

so good

just run and things die

[tight kiln]

just run. best if dream lightning appears you just mow down everything

[blissful plume]

thinking of making a 2nd char for a change but no idea if i should go youga1 chain lightning or carino2 ice lance rebound

[toxic wing]

yeah i have been doing that as well

or i will wait til another orbs drops to extend and then end the dream and just rush the map

[toxic wing]

how do you get loot from the nightmare mechanic btw

like what kind of orbs do you look for/what modif

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/Hsq2KsrKae4?si=rUjTnO0KnJcyD72X

[tight kiln]

Fuel and card

Thats it

The rest sucks

So commodity and fluorescent

[toxic wing]

oh alk playing it as well

man i need some of alks luck with his rolls

i have been trying to hit +2 on my scepter for awhile now

but i only see the other elements

i do have a +4 on main skill staff but not sure if it's worth it crafting on as a base

[tight kiln]

Usually you buy a +2 base and craft from there lol

[toxic wing]

i already crafted most of my t1 mods sadly

i forgot which are prefixes/suffixes

but my dot/ele dmg and so on are all t1

only max energy and the + 2 arent maxed

[tight kiln]

Good luck on the +2 its the hardest to craft

[blissful plume]

You're crafting it all on priceless base right?

[tight kiln]

what no

you do i83+ first to get all t1 without ultimate affixes

then from there you transition into priceless base

im on full i83 rn

im planning to get some other corrupted uniques first before trying to craft on priceless bases. that shit is expensive as fuck

and the mods totally changes

[blissful plume]

t1 only happens at 86+

[tight kiln]

oh ye

i86 then

[blissful plume]

Actually priceless farming should be easier since it's god of machines too

No need dark surge pet

[tight kiln]

good luck doing profound lol

[blissful plume]

but you're gemma3, should be able to do profound already

selena requires so much more to even reach profound just because of how underpowered they made her compared to past season pass heroes

[tight kiln]

nah not yet

lol everything is expensive as shit

35bil isnt even close enough to do profound too

My base priceless wand is like

700 FE

Zz okay at least i got this

Nice jumled 10 bil dps

18bil to 28bil

[blissful plume]

done with staff and boots

body still needs more FE to figure stuff out

only 11b

[tight kiln]

pogg

[toxic wing]

ok got one scepter to +2

the other has t1 near max int but not sure if lvls are better

or if i just get rid of energy shield for it

[blissful plume]

just go full offense if its like that

not like u need to survive

[blissful plume]

done with gloves but contemplating using truth embers for the low rolls

[tight kiln]

rtuth embers isnt hard tog et

[blissful plume]

lol first priceless and its an axe

[toxic wing]

time for you to play an axe build

[blissful plume]

I don't think train rehan uses axes

[blissful plume]

hope this pays off

[blissful plume]

143 FE and 1 shit support skill

[tight kiln]

ive never even gotten 100 FE from this shit before

lmao

[blissful plume]

Even with lvl 7?

[tight kiln]

yep

level 7 chest

40 FE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLij_001vUU

[tight kiln]

lets see how much i get

12 FE lol

65 FE

lmao

[blissful plume]

Nice

[tight kiln]

6 rainbow eggs too

nothing of fucking value

[blissful plume]

The embers have value

[tight kiln]

im gonna use them anyway

[tight kiln]

dream is still so good.

50 FE right there

[tight kiln]

nice

finish 99 runs

i can self sustain my beacon + one compass

man

when i staretd this strat

this compass was 3.3 FE each. it went up to 4 now

gonna stock 300 for a good measure

1.6k FE gone

128 FE left

we grind again

[blissful plume]

Finally sold this fucking thing

[tight kiln]

must be nice

now you can easy profound while im struggling with 0 big drops

[blissful plume]

Just need to up my survivability slightly

[blissful plume]

done with belt and 1 ring

[blissful plume]

Ugh need to farm pob3 for selfless, stand as one and selfishness

[tight kiln]

pls

[tight kiln]

why you rich enough to buy

[blissful plume]

Wdym

They cost 1.5k ea

[tight kiln]

you have 5k

rich enough

bunch of fucking nothing lmao

[blissful plume]

And I need 10 of them

Already used 5k buying my epic crit rating hero mem

[blissful plume]

Rich

[blissful plume]

And my 21 ice beam, noble ring blades and replacement pedigree

Everything is inflated because everyone is playing settlers 2.0 now

Not enough demand so supply costs have gone thru the roof

[tight kiln]

what

if there's not enough demand shouldnt the cost go down because the market is overflooded with supplies

[blissful plume]

Not really because most people got turned off by the nerfs and quit but prices of stuff are still so damn high

[tight kiln]

ye because you dont farm FE as fast

nobody is going to profound

except the rmt-ers or people who are palying 24/7

it doesnt help that you get stuck at 8-2, then without any huge drops like me you're stuck farming 400 maps for 1 item when your next upgrade is like 3k to 5k FE

[blissful plume]

Apparently getting kong and then drone machine for pirarie cards will make you money

So that's an easy 4k from farming 8-0

Also now there's no diff between drops for 8-0 and 8-2 anymore

According to the 24/7 ppl

[tight kiln]

getting kong lol

good luck

[blissful plume]

It's so easy

[tight kiln]

ye must be nice being lucky every season

[tight kiln]

bought 300 maps worth of compass and earned back almost everything in 100 maps.

[blissful plume]

Oh damn it, I read wrong and it's pob4 that I need to farm for selfless

[tight kiln]

you got enough dps anyway

my slates are 2k FE each

fuck man

[blissful plume]

I doubt pob4 only requires 8-9b right

[tight kiln]

I was struggling pob3 with 25bil lol

[tight kiln]

pls

WTF 5 USELESS SKILLS