#Ad-passes

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ruby cypress
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Okay. I’m willing to pay more for this game. Yes I can continuously buy more carrots but that doesn’t bring in great value to me, I’m already rich.
What I would gladly pay for are ad passes.
I know ads from Candiru corp/Camille probably is a significant source of revenue, but I’m very willing to pay a bit more than what 1 ad brings (don’t know if that’s how this even works) to skip the ad.

5000 carrots is 1.99 and watching 2ads (candiru&camille) brings 2000 carrots. So maybe 1.99 gives me 5 ad passes. I don’t know - but honestly, it’s not about the money….. I’ll share below..

I know! Candiru and camille ads are totally optional and if ad passes cost about the same as directly buying carrots, maybe it doesn’t make sense…
But!! this game is all about… small things!! For some reason, directly buying carrots kind of takes me away from the game so I don’t want to do it. But Candiru/Camille really feels like it is part of the game. So I DO want to do it. However, the moment the ads pop up, I get taken away.
So imagine, Tuski being in membership with Candiru corp or being play buddy with Camille. When they come to you or when you find them, in addition to getting an option to watch ad, if you have an ad pass, you get optional conversation to skip ad!

Okay this is long. I was just playing and this very colorful game ad popped up, took me so much away from the game 😦
But maybe this is just me!
Totally up to the dev team 🙂

glacial shard
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I dont want this to turn into adventure 2

ruby cypress
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^ i agree to that as well. Adventure 2 felt crazy to me. But i really don’t like watching ads and i know i have the power to skip i just can’t 🥲🥲🤣😂

sudden jetty
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So in short, u want a way to have an ad-free game without it impacting other players' ad demands

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and for that, u r willing to buy "ad passes" using real money

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which will help u avoid ads, like one ad pass will help avoid one ad

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And the pass will still give u the ad carrots, except that u won't need to actually watch the ad, u can just say "here's a pass i bought. Now gimme my carrot minus the ads"

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Did i get that right?

glacial shard
sudden jetty
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And each time a pass is used, it's actually used up?

glacial shard
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Yes

sudden jetty
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Ah

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Well, not bad for people who would buy it

glacial shard
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Ye

ruby cypress
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I just want more ways to support this dev and game because i love this game so much but want to use money in a way that i can justify and enjoy!
But I do get a point how additional microtransaction may put more mental burden to some players.

So I guess if this isn’t good, I can just buy more carrots regularly Xd

sudden jetty
humble yew
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I am not interested in ad passes but I would do a single ad-free payment. I already pay for ad-free in every game that offers it. My farm is now producing enough carrots that I have stopped watching ads because the time spent is not worth the carrots to me anymore - so effectively I am no longer contributing revenue to the game. I bought my homecoming, I bought a bunch of carrots to get myself started - but now I'm in cruise mode. I would be curious to know what a player who watches the ads each day generates for them in revenue over a year. Ad views are typically pennies per view if not fractions of a penny if there is no additional "conversion metric" like a bonus if the viewer signs up for/downloads whatever the ad is promoting. An ad-free pack would not be a recurring revenue source but it would be a large one-time boost to company revenue with a low recurring factor based on influx of new players. General Google search suggests they earn between $5-20 per 1000 ads viewed. It would take ages for an individual user to watch 1000 ads, so over our entire time with the game a user probably generates them between $5-10. Charge me $15 - get the revenue for the next 3 years of my ad rev if I was watching 6 a day right up front. I've probably watched about 100 ads so they have made $0.50-2.00 off me and now I've stopped watching ads entirely; but I'd gladly put up 10-15x what they made off my time viewing ads to be able to just skip the ads and collect the carrots.

soft wing
humble yew
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Oh gosh I think HC already had enough benefits - I thought ad free should still bring additional rev

soft wing
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also, one problem with ads are that they slow down the game and cause problems, but that happens even if they are disabled in game. they have to be totally removed to get the full benefit.

soft wing
humble yew
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I’ll admit I’m a bit of a game addict - I have pages of games on my phone right now - I have a daily rotation of 6 games I never miss a day in and then a dozen I do random check ins for - 100% of them offer ad free and I purchased for all but one which wanted $30 and that felt steep because they only had 2 ad opportunities a day anyway.

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If they didn’t all offer ad free I’d be swamped in ads haha

soft wing
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lol

humble yew
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The purchase rate of ad free feels contradictory to your statement - it’s an obligatory purchase meaning players openly discuss it being their very first purchase in any game they are committing to

soft wing
humble yew
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Correct

soft wing
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itd probably earn some money if it was a different purchase yeah

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but then itd take away from hc sales

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hc strength is that its the only purchase needed

humble yew
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That sounds anecdotal

soft wing
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like you buy that and it has all the stuff

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if i added another purchase it loses that

soft wing
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and you cant even really test drive it

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like if i did it, i cant undo it

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how much would you pay for ad free btw

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OH, yeah we're in talks with apple arcade rn, if we get it, thats a totally ad free version, with ads ripped out completely

humble yew
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For this game probably $20 - I don’t have insight into your CPM/CPC metrics so I want to properly compensate for what years of my ad views would generate but I have no point of reference. The last time I was involved with ad campaigns I was getting $2.50CPM

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That was quite a while ago

soft wing
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lol 20 is way too high

humble yew
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I suspected it was haha

soft wing
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we earn maybe a dollar or 2 per user over lifetime i think

humble yew
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I play games run by very predatory companies hehe

soft wing
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cpm drops on users over time also

humble yew
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In Monsters Never Cry I witnessed the top spender drop half a million dollars

soft wing
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lol thats crazy

humble yew
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Those types of games are just - beyond cash cows. I probably spend about $10k a year on mobile gaming

worthy token
humble yew
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But every time I think I’m the whale of a server I just get crushed by dozens of people

soft wing
humble yew
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For me at 43 years old time is vastly more valuable than money.

worthy token
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-# give Camille a friend please

humble yew
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Any money I can spend to free up my time is worth it to me

soft wing
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i really hate mobile game monetization, i be working overtime to get yall to spend $10 but yall will drop $1000 on a shiny jpeg

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i will actually consider putting ad free onto homecoming though

humble yew
soft wing
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i might do something like you can buy ad free separately, then hc is just permanently on sale

humble yew
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I see no relation between the two. Every game with ad free also has a form of vip if not multiple tiers - we buy them all

worthy token
humble yew
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HC is like VIP

soft wing
worthy token
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Yee makes sense

humble yew
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Yeah you click all the same messages it’s just that when they say “ok here’s the ad!” your carrots just go up.

worthy token
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That sounds great but I'd hate paying money for that
-# I'm just broke

humble yew
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Then you just keep doing what you do now

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No change

soft wing
worthy token
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Yeah

soft wing
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then youd get ad free

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hypothetically

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if i did it

worthy token
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tsuki_hmm hmm

humble yew
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People acting like if ad free existed they would “have” to buy it are just having impulse control issues but that shouldn’t become my problem

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I just wanna spend some money and not see ads lol

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Plenty of people still watch all the ads in the games I bought ad free in

soft wing
humble yew
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It’s very funny you said that cause I detest Apple Arcade

soft wing
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if ur subbed to arcade i mean

soft wing
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look ad free, paid based on play time, its great

humble yew
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I found it predatory towards the player base last time I investigated but it’s been two or more years.

soft wing
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wdym, theres zero iaps or ads

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arcade's problem is that its a flop, not enough users

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but for developers its good, you can just make a fun game and succeed

humble yew
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It’s the inability to even try a game without subscribing - many a game I wanted to try but then I gotta pay to join before I know I like it. This would be the only game I would want on arcade so that’s $7 a month to play.

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Now that $20 ad free seems not too much at all compared to $7x12

soft wing
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its like game pass i guess, but for mobile

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subscriptions suck tho i agree

humble yew
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You’re right, it’s perspective, looking at the $7 as VIP for the one game I like is a way to accept it

soft wing
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have you used ur arcade trial period yet

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i think there is a trial period

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BTW, its very likely we wont get arcade lol

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theyre very strict about the games being family friendly zhehe_doge

humble yew
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No I won’t start trials that auto renew - my Discord Nitro gave me a free month of Xbox live and when they wanted my credit info I closed the window. Just personal choice.

soft wing
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yeah i understand

humble yew
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Appreciate all the insights you’ve shared here too. Sorry we are only worth $2 over a full game life

soft wing
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if u bought hc then its high obviously

humble yew
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Right right

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Just recurring rev that is

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I’m 27 years in sales lol

soft wing
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lol, ads took a nosedive 2 years ago btw

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cuz of apple's ad tracking transparency thing

humble yew
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They took a nosedive 20 years ago! I used to deal directly with my ad clients - Wizards of the Coast paid me $5CPM because I developed the best targeted ad system of that era and I was getting 10,000 unique IPs a month with an avg page view of 5 per IP.

soft wing
soft wing
humble yew
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Going into a work meeting thus my disappearance for a bit ❤️

soft wing
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you need to have ur user watch 5 ads a session to earn anything

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talk next time

rocky dragon
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Can i add something different but for the same purpose? What about "buy homecoming for your friends" option. You support the game, you pay a nice amount of cash, you dont have to deal with too much carrots in your account, your friend receive a code via email to enter in the mail box near benny's (as a bonus, it gives more use for the mailbox, that imo is not serving for much)

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I added this suggestion here cause of the reasons you gave for the ad-pass, but if yall want i create i fresh new topic

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Different thing, same reason

restive oracle
soft wing
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you have to buy it through app store/play store, they dont like developers selling in game stuff outside of that, cuz they cant take their 30%

rocky dragon
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Huh, wouldn't it be like the carrots purchases and regular HC? There is still someone paying it

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Tbh I don't understand that part, but it can still work in some other way, an option to gift Tsuki's ingame stuff to friends, but in a way that its specifically for this game

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Cause gift cards can be used for wathever

soft wing
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technically the code system that we have in game rn is already against terms of service

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and it does actually cause the game to fail app review, sometimes, rarely

rocky dragon
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Lmao

soft wing
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rn its pretty hidden lol so hasnt been caught that much

rocky dragon
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Shhh won't talk about it anymore

soft wing
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but we arent selling the carrots through that so it doesnt really matter

rocky dragon
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Makes sense. I don't really understand why, but its not surprising that a big game platform has a dumb/greedy policy lmao

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The ad-passes are cool btw

wind mirage
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I was thinking about that rich bunny that wants to pay for stuff and I think I might have a good idea about this

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@ruby cypress

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what if we organize a few giveaways based on something of your interest?

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since having too many carrots is kinda taking the fun off the game to u, AND u also want to help out by paying for stuff... I thought... hmm what about an giveaway? (it's not a permanent solution, I know... but maybe u like the idea? so I thought... why not say it?)

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for example: if u like art

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then u could pick a fun theme like I don't know a snow ball fight

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u could be happy by seeing lots of drawings of moca getting hit by snow, tsuki waving a white flag begging pipi to stop tossing snow on him ... stuff like that

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u could pay a homecoming or something to whomever wins
mods get that cash and be happy
u laugh of moca's face

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win-win situation

civic lynx
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i'm a little late to the party, but for me it's mostly a privacy thing. I don't mind sharing my data with the game devs, because probably you need it to make a good game for us. But i do mind that ad companies are getting that. it loads upon starting the game, right? does that then already share data or not yet?

soft wing
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what would you be worried about being shared?

civic lynx
soft wing
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i think they would know ur device model, and ur age

civic lynx
soft wing
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device identifiers are no longer being used by ad companies i think

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but yes they will build a profile of you

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although most of the data is about how you interact with ads

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so if you dont watch ads at all it doesnt really matter

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the game itself has very little analytics mostly tutorial stuff to see where people get stuck

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those are useless to ad companies

civic lynx
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Aaah okay, that helps a lot actually, thanks

humble yew
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Thinks back to my second website when I was running custom written batch file executables for advanced tracking and data collection with nothing preventing me from executing commands on your computer if I had malicious intent. It’s so much safer for everyone today haha.

soft wing
humble yew
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