Was the ussr good debate

[robust zinc]

Yeah it's pretty funny how the socialist is using the worst examples out there

[heady jungle]

I have a lottttaaaa time

[pallid vigil]

Yeah

[robust zinc]

Just goes to show you don't go outside

America is literally plagued with tiktok lol

[frosty spoke]

Been a long time,show it again.
Also the ussr existed for like only 70 years that's an unfair comparison

[silent orbit]

I mean i'm sure you have a lot of free time in a gulag or a reeducation camp

[heady jungle]

Yeah

Im one of the few who isn’t on it every second

[pallid vigil]

Yeah

[heady jungle]

And i don’t have it

[frosty spoke]

Guantanamo bay is still running fyi

[pallid vigil]

That’s an American problem

[silent orbit]

No it isn't, Taiwan was under a brutal dictatorship before it became a democracy, Japan was bombed into the ground, same with germany

[frosty spoke]

Go outside and do what?

[robust zinc]

😭

[heady jungle]

And touch grass 🤣

[silent orbit]

wow, 1 prison against the hundreds of gulags

[robust zinc]

I'm not your mom to go tell you to play with the neighbor's kids

[frosty spoke]

Both of them had space for scientific development,especially during war

[silent orbit]

Also why are you so focused on the USA? They aren't the only democracy in the world

[silent orbit]

again, BOMBED

[robust zinc]

wtf you mean had space

[silent orbit]

and taiwan was under colonial rule

wtf are you on about

[frosty spoke]

BRO IT'S 2023

[robust zinc]

Taiwan lost the civil war, ousted from the mainland

Japan was bombed to oblivion

[pallid vigil]

Hell South Korea was a dictatorship till like the 80s

[silent orbit]

russia and china still have them too...

[frosty spoke]

And we still have guantanamo bay

[heady jungle]

Okay???

[frosty spoke]

Whataboutsim

[heady jungle]

What does a prison on cuba have to do with this?

[silent orbit]

Again, it's nothing compared to the crimes against humanity the USSR committed

[heady jungle]

^

[frosty spoke]

No it isn't

[robust zinc]

He also denied the holodomor btw

[silent orbit]

1 prison in cuba vs hundreds if not thousands of camps

[robust zinc]

This is genocide denial

[frosty spoke]

For every bad thing the USSR has done,America has done it 4 times over

[heady jungle]

Instant ban

Where da hamma

[heady jungle]

Its the other way around genius

[silent orbit]

When did the USA run tanks into protesters?

[heady jungle]

Never

Only chucked tear gas

[pallid vigil]

Maybe

[robust zinc]

I don't think he even knows basic crimes against humanity

[silent orbit]

everywhere the USA intervened there was soviet intervention and again, the USA isn't the only democracy in the world

[frosty spoke]

There's a big difference to running the gulag back then and shutting it down in the middle of the ussr life span to still having it running after directly acknowledging how bad it is

[silent orbit]

start simping for social democrats, not genocidal maniacs

[robust zinc]

The gulag is essential for the soviet union

[frosty spoke]

Name all the soviet foreign interventions

[silent orbit]

They still had penal colonies

[pallid vigil]

Afghanistan

[frosty spoke]

The USA is not a democracy

[pallid vigil]

Cap

[silent orbit]

but the soviets are?

[silent orbit]

The very fact that you don't have an FBI agent at your door right know proves you wrong

[frosty spoke]

I don't see USSR corporations having bought politicians

[robust zinc]

It isn't, but it's a liberal democracy

[robust zinc]

Politician simp

[frosty spoke]

Lobbyists are literally paid by corporations to lobby in their favor

[robust zinc]

You really trust politicians so much

[silent orbit]

no, they shot, jailed, murdered, coerced, squashed (literally) any oposition

[heady jungle]

MY GUY

THE SOVIETS WERE SHADY AS HELL

YOU CAN ASK THE DAMN GERMANS!!!

[frosty spoke]

During what timelines

[silent orbit]

My brother in christ, do you prefer a makarov to the head or a bag of cash?

[robust zinc]

I don't think he's heard of the NKVD yet

[silent orbit]

[pallid vigil]

Man the Soviets put a clock in the Presidents office

[frosty spoke]

Either way the democracy is compromised

[robust zinc]

I just realized

[silent orbit]

but it still is there

[robust zinc]

I can't react on Paladin's message

I think he feels threatened by me

To do such censorship lol

[frosty spoke]

Nope.

[silent orbit]

unlike in the soviet union, where it never existed in the first place

[silent orbit]

hey i can do a graph too

[pallid vigil]

Wheel it up

[heady jungle]

🤣

[frosty spoke]

It's more like an aristocracy or something

[pallid vigil]

I’m afraid the graph has been denied by the council

[robust zinc]

What kind of graph is this bruh

[heady jungle]

Nah

[robust zinc]

It even comes complete with a volume setting 💀

[silent orbit]

Rich people stop you from voting now?

[frosty spoke]

The rich people who have intentions to hurt the working class for money control all politics

[robust zinc]

Yeah he's that stupid

[silent orbit]

do they throw coins at you when you vote for bernie?

[pallid vigil]

So become rich

K let’s not Rule 3

[frosty spoke]

The American vote doesn't mean shit

[heady jungle]

Representative Democratic and direct democratic

[pallid vigil]

Not wrong

Idk why electoral college

[silent orbit]

Kind of chooses the president but hey

[robust zinc]

He doesn't believe in freedom

[silent orbit]

If that was true, switzerland would be a massive gulag

[robust zinc]

He's that much of a smoothbrain

[frosty spoke]

And then there's the electoral college

[robust zinc]

Not a bad idea

[silent orbit]

at least america has real elections

[heady jungle]

Yes

[frosty spoke]

The elections is between drowning and burning to death

[robust zinc]

Sounds like a US problem

[heady jungle]

^

[pallid vigil]

Yeah

[frosty spoke]

Both presidential candidates are working against you

[silent orbit]

America was doing better than the USSR

[pallid vigil]

So don’t vote

[heady jungle]

^

[silent orbit]

then vote third party

[heady jungle]

Vote for the 3rd party

[silent orbit]

You are complaining about not having a choice even though you have one

[frosty spoke]

Yeah the green party doesn't even get enough money to be acknowledged

[silent orbit]

then vote for them

make them relevant

[frosty spoke]

Yeah that doesn't really change anything

[silent orbit]

because everyone has your mentality

[frosty spoke]

Because nobody knows. They just think you're weird and move on

[silent orbit]

THEN VOTE FOR THEM

[robust zinc]

Sounds like a you problem

[silent orbit]

votes make you relevant

[heady jungle]

Yep

[robust zinc]

You're too afraid to be judged by society lol

[heady jungle]

^

[robust zinc]

And yet you want society to force shit on you

[silent orbit]

also since when are you green? the USSR was terrible for the environment

[heady jungle]

I get judged every day

Idc

[robust zinc]

Bro you really are funny

[frosty spoke]

If everyone in America had my mentality we'd have already overthrown the country

[heady jungle]

Yeah

Well

[frosty spoke]

Because...every one was back then???

[heady jungle]

How are you gonna overturn 329,999,999 million people?

[frosty spoke]

In what

[silent orbit]

No the Military would probably restore order, or a NATO coalition

[heady jungle]

^

[pallid vigil]

Yeah

[heady jungle]

And in case you haven’t noticed

[robust zinc]

I think you're just hiding your insecurities behind socialism, because that way you can at least force your ideals on other people through the guise of "For the betterment of humanity"

[heady jungle]

Our tanks got the uranium shit

[robust zinc]

You're pathetic, really

[frosty spoke]

What milatry?

[heady jungle]

BRO

BRO CMON

LMAO

THIS GUY

😂

[silent orbit]

[frosty spoke]

everyone in the country would be like me including the military

[heady jungle]

Nah

[silent orbit]

We call that Ingsoc

[frosty spoke]

I'm not the one who thought of the scenario

[robust zinc]

Funny fantasies, such amazing copium

[silent orbit]

also you are going to use evil western military equipment? not pure and divine soviet tanks?

[robust zinc]

"Everyone should be just like me!"

[pallid vigil]

Never gonna happen

[robust zinc]

Such childish banter

[pallid vigil]

Never ever

Gonna happen

[silent orbit]

because debates are useless

[frosty spoke]

A gun is a gun tbh

[pallid vigil]

Don’t matter

[robust zinc]

Honestly guys, we shouldn't take idiots this seriously

[frosty spoke]

The guy said everyone is of my mentality

[silent orbit]

So you are willing to exploit the labour of swedish, canadian, british, french and israeli engineers? nice morality

[robust zinc]

I'm out of here, I see no more need to polish a smooth brain

[pallid vigil]

And that’s not the real world

[pallid vigil]

Never gonna happen

[frosty spoke]

I'm aware

[silent orbit]

yeah obviously

[heady jungle]

Same

[keen wind]

They literally destroyed the Aral sea

[trim blade]

Paladin#7619 has been warned

Reason: Rule 1(Genocide Denial)

[frosty spoke]

When did I deny genocide?

That's not an objection to the warning,just a question.

Also this video summaries my point extremely wellhttps://youtu.be/HVzgtRp_YtI

Also now that I think about it Umberto might have committed genocide denial IIRC when talking about Vietnam

Don't put a reaction, just watch the video

[pallid vigil]

Can we get a VAR on this(where)

[frosty spoke]

What even is a VAR

[silent orbit]

It's wayyy up

[pallid vigil]

But where tho

I need a VAR Review of this

[silent orbit]

🤷‍♂️

[sonic charm]

What genocide did he deny? Just curious

[pallid vigil]

Holodomor

[frosty spoke]

When did I deny holodomor

But yeah there easily was genocide in North Korea and Vietnam

[heady jungle]

What did the DPRK do?

[pallid vigil]

It was about the Kulaks

[heady jungle]

Man doesn’t answer me

[silent orbit]

He's talking about the south koreans/americans

[heady jungle]

He legit said north korea

DPRK

[heady jungle]

.

[silent orbit]

no i mean he thinks the south genocided the north

[heady jungle]

Its the other way

[silent orbit]

that's what i said

[heady jungle]

Either way both Koreas were brutal

[silent orbit]

true

[sonic charm]

Damn

[keen wind]

I'm pretty sure he's trying to say the Americans committed genocide in NK

[pallid vigil]

Thats fair then

[frosty spoke]

Get their country FUBAR with bombs because they defended themselves

[heady jungle]

FUBAR?

Also they started the korean war shit

China finished it

[frosty spoke]

No,I mean America genocided the north

[frosty spoke]

No,they invaded SK for doing cia led sneak attacks against Nk and then the USAF came in and literally went out of their way to kill (every) north Korean to the point where they also killed South Koreans because the entire campaign was a racist genocide

And even if they did start it that doesn't justify trying to kill every South Korean

Wait hold up

That's better

[keen wind]

[frosty spoke]

Anyway it's impossible to blame Nk for hating the west

[frosty spoke]

That's genocide denial

[heady jungle]

Actually we can

[keen wind]

Not denial because it never happened

[heady jungle]

Bc the entire commie block hated the west

[keen wind]

There was no genocide, there's no proof of genocide

[frosty spoke]

https://youtu.be/fE9MUwAbFQI there's literally a whole video

[keen wind]

A questionable bombing campaign ≠ genocide

[frosty spoke]

Like are you racist or ignorant

[frosty spoke]

QUESTIONABLE???

[keen wind]

Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

The US was not intentionally trying to kill every north Korean

[keen wind]

Ah yes, Wikipedia

[frosty spoke]

My boy https://apnews.com/article/international-news-asia-pacific-ap-top-news-north-korea-dd6256bad51e458cb2e8a1bf64b5c2b6

Seriously "questionable bombing"?

[keen wind]

Bombing ≠ genocide, the UK bombed Germany a ton during ww2, but it isn't genocide. Not saying it's OK for the US to do that, but it's not genocide

[frosty spoke]

That's like calling
s -trafficking questionable intercourse

[keen wind]

No it's not lol

[frosty spoke]

Mass bombing of civilians to cripple the country is genocide

@keen wind yes it is.

You're actually racist..okay..wow

And you still haven't read the article or watched the video

[keen wind]

Nope, it's not. It was not done with the aim of wiping out the entire population of North Korea

Genocide is when you intentionally try to wipe out an entire group of people

[frosty spoke]

Yes it was.

[keen wind]

Bombing your enemy is just war

It's sad, and killing civilians is a side affect of war

[frosty spoke]

Do 300,000 NK citizens sound like the enemy? Does 300,000 deliberate civilian deaths sound like a side effect?

I'm pretty sure any adult,or even a 5 year old can distinguish a city and a military base

Or maybe you're one of those country bumpkins always complaining about "city slickers" and that's why you don't see it as genocide cause' it's urban bombings

[keen wind]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131626/korean-war-civilian-casualties/

Both sides lost similar amounts of Civilians during the war

If the US was committing genocide, the death toll should be much higher on the NK side

Unless both sides committed genocide

[frosty spoke]

And? The USAF still went crazy

[keen wind]

It still shows that it wasn't genocide, the US could have killed many more North Koreans if they wanted to actually commit genocide. I'm not excusing the civilian deaths the US did cause, but it wasn't genocide

[frosty spoke]

They digged up 400,000 bombs in one city after the war ended even though the war Ended...

Also you cleary didn't watch the video,why is this?

[keen wind]

That's usually how it goes, you find bombs after the war ends...

[frosty spoke]

1. 400k!!!
   2 they literally planned and selected villages to bomb

[keen wind]

I did, he basically uses some quotes and says that's proof of genocide

[frosty spoke]

Do you have an attention deficit? He pulled up a whole interview of am official saying we destroyed 10-20% of NKs

[keen wind]

You're ignoring my previous arguments

[frosty spoke]

Which

[keen wind]

.

[keen wind]

Does that matter when the facts don't match it?

[frosty spoke]

And if that's just in Pyongyang,think about the ones they dug up elsewhere

Remember,those bombs were meant to GO OFF

400,000 additional bombs meant to destroy Pyongyang and its people

[keen wind]

300,000 north Korean civilians died, that's just 2.7% of NK's pre-war population

[frosty spoke]

Attempted murder should still count

[keen wind]

Where did you get this number? From NK?

[frosty spoke]

https://apnews.com/article/international-news-asia-pacific-ap-top-news-north-korea-dd6256bad51e458cb2e8a1bf64b5c2b6

Not to mention the number,despite of who claims it,adds up to the already existing bombings

[hybrid iris]

Why would us commit genocide on koreans???

[frosty spoke]

Racism

[hybrid iris]

Racism??

[frosty spoke]

It was the 50s in America,I'm not justifying btw

[hybrid iris]

I tought they intervened because the north invaded

The south

[pallid vigil]

They did

[hybrid iris]

So tye interveen on one side after invation starts

[frosty spoke]

The south actually preformed cia lead sneak attacks before

[hybrid iris]

And commit genocide on both sides

[frosty spoke]

NK got bombed for defense of itself

[hybrid iris]

For racism reasons

[pallid vigil]

So basically North invaded

[frosty spoke]

You can watch @hybrid iris

[hybrid iris]

Why didnt they commit genocide before the war started than?

[pallid vigil]

Who

[frosty spoke]

My discord is acting up

Imma leave this and come back a little later

[keen wind]

"North Koreans claim 400,000 bombs were dropped on Pyongyang " the North Koreans CLAIM, their source for this article comes from the NK army and NK news. Of course NK will exaggerate about this stuff

[hybrid iris]

Besides

I tought this discussion was about ussr

How does us being evil make anything ussr do good?

[pallid vigil]

This is what happens 3k messages later

[keen wind]

He got in trouble for denying the Holodomor, so he tried to accuse the US of genocide in NK

[hybrid iris]

HE WHAT?!?!?!?!

[keen wind]

.

[hybrid iris]

What the fuck

Is wrong with him

[keen wind]

Yeah, basically he believes the USSR was the best country and that capitalism is evil

[hybrid iris]

Next thing im gonna hear is about how red army gloriousley relived eastern europe

And how they totally didnt rape tousands of innocent women on their eay

Of course they dint shoot any polish partizants,

And Katyń is a myth

[keen wind]

He says Stalin era USSR was bad

But the rest was good

[hybrid iris]

The only good thing about the rest is its slow collapse

[keen wind]

I wish we had a time machine, so we could go back to the USSR and show him what it was really like

[hybrid iris]

I know numerous people who remember the times of communism in poland

It may not be ussr directly

But none of them feels bad about its collapse

And that is basically most of adults i know

Exception are only really yong adults

To be fair it collapsed like 30 years ago so a bit of time has passed

Imagine that in polish peoples republic having a fricking toilet paper was luxiourous

There was shortage of everything in shops, except for ocet

And to get anything good you had to stand in long ass lines

It eas so bad that sometimes people would pay someone to stand in line for them

Sometimes youd have to stand entire day just to get something

[keen wind]

Try telling that to him

[hybrid iris]

Youd have to pay with a thing called papers which determined how much of what you can buy

[keen wind]

I've lost brain cells arguing with him

[hybrid iris]

Honestly if my dad could speak english, than id let him speak instead for me

After all how could he argue with someone who lived trough it

[keen wind]

He says his (I believe) grandfather lived in the USSR has told him how great it was

[hybrid iris]

What did he tell him?

Specifically

[keen wind]

Idk

[hybrid iris]

@frosty spoke
What specifically did your grandfather say was "great" about ussr

[sly patrol]

My opinion is that the USSR was evil

Whether or not it was as evil as NatSoc Germany is a whole different debate, but it was awful

[robust zinc]

Damn

Seriously this is some next level copium to defend North Korea

Even if I was a communist, North Korea os obviously the one thing I'll never bring up for my arguments

[pallid vigil]

Everyone knows North Korea attacked the South first

[robust zinc]

And like holy shit man

North Korea is the perfect example of a failed communist state

[pallid vigil]

When was there a successful one?

[robust zinc]

There's none

[pallid vigil]

Hmmmmm

[robust zinc]

But at least the goddamn soviets actually got themselves an industry even if how stupid the means were

[pallid vigil]

Somewhat quick as well

[robust zinc]

Sounds cap to me

US bombs usually are around a ton or less each

[pallid vigil]

635000

That’s all together tho

On North Korea

[robust zinc]

Wait

Lmao I think I fucked up my math XD

Ah no no

I got it right

It sounds absolutely cap that 400,000 or more bombs didn't explode lol

Besides, that's nothing

I think he's forgetting that when ww2 started air forces around the world don't have a mature strategic bombing force yet

Bombs at the time are still dumb too so saturation is the norm

It's quite funny really to think that the US did some secret operations to antagonize North Korea when they barely even arrived just in time to save South Korea from destruction

[heady jungle]

And that North Korea was the people who fired the first shot ultimately

[robust zinc]

That's the funny part, he doesn't believe that lmao

[heady jungle]

Of course he wouldn't

[robust zinc]

His arguments are so bad ngl

[heady jungle]

Joker comes in trying to redeem himself after he gets called out

Or should I say, herself

And then gets ridiculed for it

[robust zinc]

I've heard commies who can reason far better

[heady jungle]

And expects clout

[robust zinc]

Man honestly I have no idea how tf is his ego still intact even after weeks of everyone disagreeimg with him

Talk about disconnected from reality

[heady jungle]

Because Communists are apart of a cult

[robust zinc]

He also thinks money; yes the paper bill itself is oppressive

[heady jungle]

People who follow the Communist faith are a cult of those who are Nationalist Purists, I can attest to this because I was a Communist myself

[robust zinc]

Aren't communists anti nationalist?

[heady jungle]

They claim to be

But in reality they are the upmost in Nationalists

[robust zinc]

Well at least on paper

[heady jungle]

They are purists is what they are

[robust zinc]

As usually the case with extremists

[heady jungle]

The are essentially National Purists who see anything and everyone who doesn't follow their viewpoint of thinking as "Enemies of the Revolution"

[robust zinc]

But seriously what I cannot understand with this guy is doesn't he realize that the communist states he so loved eventually opened up to world trade and decentralised their economies

Like man, that says a whole lotta how command economies just wouldn't work

[hybrid iris]

Sometimes i feel like the inly difference between nazis and communists were their goals

[robust zinc]

They're actually crazy similar

[heady jungle]

This is the problem with Communists as they constantly deny what they are doing is inhumane, while at the same time promoting genocide of undesirable individuals at random

[hybrid iris]

Ik

[robust zinc]

If Nazis call for one race to rule them all

Communism calls for one class

Or in this case a classless society

[heady jungle]

They essentially apply to contradictories and hold them in equal value

[hybrid iris]

Boty hate poland 😭

[heady jungle]

Which is exactly what George Orwell pointed out in his book 1984

[pallid vigil]

great book btw

[heady jungle]

And why the book was illegal in the Soviet Union

[pallid vigil]

almost as good as the Communist Manifesto

[heady jungle]

The 1984 book was essentially a step by step playbook of how Communist Nations operated, which is one of the reasons why it was banned in the USSR

[hybrid iris]

Honestly if communists wanted to eradicate a race, it would be way more brutal, and way less xlean if you could say that

[pallid vigil]

tho my best read was Mein Kampf

[robust zinc]

Well that's the worst part too, the communists don't even pick on race

They pick anyone

[heady jungle]

Communists I wouldn't say want to eradicate a race, but that ultimately is what ends up happening in their so called "Classless Society"

[hybrid iris]

Im not saying they want.
Im saying if they wanted to

[robust zinc]

It's way easier to label someone as bourgeoisie to execute them than labeling someone with race

[heady jungle]

Because what Communists essentially want is a society where they have a collective way of thinking

[robust zinc]

No wonder the communists killed so many of their own

[heady jungle]

Essentially a Theocracy just not in name

[robust zinc]

MAN

Man do I love to hear this guy defend Pol Pot

Like holy shit that's gonna be crazy if he does that

[heady jungle]

Pol Pot was the most evil man in the history of man kind

[pallid vigil]

I'll defend his South African lookalike

[heady jungle]

If he does that that should automatically be a banable offense

[robust zinc]

Istg man if he even defends Pol Pot 💀

Just because he's a "socialist"

[pallid vigil]

he's been resurrected as Elon

[robust zinc]

Like shit man this guy is biased af

[heady jungle]

Socialism and Communism are essentially the same thing

Just their names are different

[robust zinc]

Pretty much

[heady jungle]

And the ironic thing is they hate eachother

[robust zinc]

But socialism is a bit less severe

Socialism is like lvl 1

[hybrid iris]

Really?

[robust zinc]

Yeah

[hybrid iris]

Lvl 1 socialist vs lvl 100 communist

[pallid vigil]

Communism is where the state owns everything

[robust zinc]

Socialism can exist within states, it's pretty much the state afterall

[pallid vigil]

Socialism is where everyone shares everything allocated by the state

[robust zinc]

Whereass communism is stateless, but ironically attempts for abolishing the state results into another state lmao

[hybrid iris]

The question is
What, or rather who is the state

[pallid vigil]

the government?

[robust zinc]

The government

[hybrid iris]

That is?

[pallid vigil]

Usually authoritarian

[robust zinc]

But states are more overarching compared to governments

[hybrid iris]

Who does the government consist of?

[robust zinc]

It's basically the mesh which holds a nation together

In essence states are a myth which everyone subscribes to

[pallid vigil]

nvm, Socialism can work with liberty and democracy

Communism works with authoritarianism

[robust zinc]

Maybe not liberty, but democracy definitely

[pallid vigil]

Communism is basically the extreme version of socialism

[robust zinc]

Libertarians dislike the idea of forced cooperation brought to them by the state

[heady jungle]

I mean, at least they say it does

[robust zinc]

Socialism is democratic, and that's why I don't like it

[heady jungle]

Democratic Socialism is like the most stupidest ideology I've ever heard of in my life

[pallid vigil]

nah there's one worse

*National

[heady jungle]

anarcho-primitivism

[heady jungle]

Yes this actually exists

[robust zinc]

It's a bit funny how both sides don't like Nazism

It's literally in the name that they are centrists

[hybrid iris]

Imagine having to live between biggest communist state, and greatest national socialist state

[heady jungle]

Its even funnier as over half of them can't even properly describe what Nazism or Fascism is in its full historical context

[hybrid iris]

And both of them equally hate you

[heady jungle]

And the context that they do give is either complete bullshit

Or its the Westernized version we are taught in our schools

[hybrid iris]

Poland 1939

[pallid vigil]

Why the hell are there so many different types of socialism

[heady jungle]

If you are gonna hate an ideology, at least know how it works to understand why you hate it

[heady jungle]

Well Nazism isn't Socialism

[hybrid iris]

Anarchisocializm

What is that?

[robust zinc]

It's funny how the American who never experienced communism likes to argue with people who did experience communism

[pallid vigil]

yeah I know, but why do many different types of socialism

[robust zinc]

Sounds like an oxymoron to me

[pallid vigil]

why is Irish Republican Socialism a thing

[hybrid iris]

Lmao

[heady jungle]

Why do ideologies even exist at all

[robust zinc]

People like making their own interpretations thinking that theirs is unique, when really at its core they're all the same

[pallid vigil]

idk, that's why irl, I say fuck politics

[hybrid iris]

History ig

[robust zinc]

Yeah ideologies are a bit dumb

[heady jungle]

Ideologies all follow the distinct trend in that they are Utopian Fantasies

[robust zinc]

Imagine making a theory on what's the best way of organizing society instead of just actually organizing it

[heady jungle]

And Utopia's are impossible fantasies that can't be achieved

[hybrid iris]

Theres as many ideologies on earth as rhere is people on the planet

Some of tyem just happen to be similar

[robust zinc]

Ideology replaced religion

[heady jungle]

No nation on earth follows a single ideology and constantly shifts

[robust zinc]

It's a bit sad innit

[pallid vigil]

somewhat

[robust zinc]

Oh man not just somewhat

A hell ton XD

Remember back in the day when everyone had a religion

Really, ideologies aren't that different from religions

[pallid vigil]

man people here don't even care about religion, unless ur old

[robust zinc]

If religion has god, ideologies have an idea

It's pretty much the same thing

You worship an object in dreams for utopia/heaven

[hybrid iris]

Communists didnt like religion in poland very much, so they did all they could to discourage that, like making work days during sundays

[robust zinc]

And communists still like to tell they have free time 😭

[hybrid iris]

But religion has been keeping polish nation together since a long time so trying to fight it now was a lost cause

[robust zinc]

Istg man it's absolutely hypocritical to be able to proselytise people in the internet about communism and complaining that you do not have free time in the capitalist society which you live in

[hybrid iris]

Especially since polish pope

[pallid vigil]

bottom text, we have a lotta free time

[robust zinc]

Communists are seriously that daft in comprehending just how much time a person spends their day resting

Like can you believe it man

Paladin says that they don't have free time because of work

[pallid vigil]

me who took like an hour nap yesterday

[robust zinc]

But at the same time also saying they watch netflix 3 hours everyday

Bruh

[pallid vigil]

ngl 3 hours everyday is a bit ridiculous

[robust zinc]

You know what I like about religion

Even if people think that God doesn't exist

It still works

[hybrid iris]

Really?

[robust zinc]

Since the truth is, God doesn't play a huge part in the real world

Unlike ideologies

Which are very real

And can actually cause harm

[hybrid iris]

Ok its a bit late for me now

See ya

[keen wind]

https://www.youtube.com/@GDFofficial This channel is one of his sources

It's the most anti-american channel I've seen

[heady jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVd6ZGYXwkY

[robust zinc]

Lol and he also criticizes the algorithm

[pallid vigil]

I just clicked the Link

[heady jungle]

From the channel that he cited...

[pallid vigil]

and I see the top video

[heady jungle]

This is from the channel that he cited...

[keen wind]

https://youtu.be/PuiAg1nUDVo

[pallid vigil]

"How Iraqis Got So Good St Smoking American Soldiers"

[keen wind]

Another one...

[heady jungle]

Yeah

He basically killed his entire legitimacy

[keen wind]

I just picture an Iraqi soldier holding a tiny American soldier and smoking him like a cigar

[heady jungle]

The fact our Government tolerates people like this for the "First Amendment"

Even though its simply pure hate speech

Its amazing

But then we are getting into Rule 3

[robust zinc]

Imagine hating on hate speech while also at the same time hating on americans

[pallid vigil]

technically ISIS started 1999, but anyways

so credibility is currently dead

[heady jungle]

But yeah the fact he cited this person of all people, basically his entire credibility is

Dead

[keen wind]

Fair is fair, if we start restricting certain types of speech, what stops other types of speech from being restricted? (I shall now end this topic due to fear of rule 3)

[pallid vigil]

!1984

[trim blade]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[keen wind]

[heady jungle]

Okay

What this country needs

USA needs: representative democracy with a hint of socialism

[heady jungle]

Try not Rule 3 this

It is what it needs

Because of legal reasons (as to not get my ass hounded by the mods) i shall not say anything else

[keen wind]

!1984

[trim blade]

Nineteen Eighty-Four (also published as 1984) is a dystopian social science fiction novel and cautionary tale by English writer George Orwell. Thematically, it centres on the consequences of totalitarianism, mass surveillance and repressive regimentation of people and behaviours within society. Orwell, a democratic socialist, modelled the authoritarian state in the novel on Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany. More broadly, the novel examines the role of truth and facts within societies and the ways in which they can be manipulated.

[frosty spoke]

I was just checking up and that claim is yet to be proven

Also other articles aligned with the information provided in the video

I'll start debating later anyway

[heady jungle]

why start again if you got clapped, grilled and burned numerous times?

[robust zinc]

He's a hardcore fanatic

No different from those KPOP stans

[heady jungle]

the BTS army

[robust zinc]

One day we will all live to see the day of Paladin starting a country

**The Glorious State Of Paladin 🫡 **

[pallid vigil]

The claim has been proven already and therefore a warn was instilled. Also it’s hard to debate with someone with little to no credibility

Considering that YouTube channel ain’t a valid source

[heady jungle]

I don’t trust chicagoans anyways

[robust zinc]

Watch as he makes a counter argument that the system oppressively delegitimizes his sources

[heady jungle]

He never made it into my books

[robust zinc]

Please Paladin please reply

[heady jungle]

Paladin shouldn’t be a paladin if he’s this bad at debating

Oh well

Where the fuck is roland?

He’s a real paladin

[heady jungle]

Paladin thinks we are stupid

He's Joker just under a different name

Or should I say she as Joker was the imposter as a genocidal maniac who I had fought with for over two years

The fact remains this

If there was a genocide in North Korea, why isn't it Internationally recognized?

Why do no nations recognize there was a genocide by the UN in North Korea. Even North Korea denies there was ever a genocide...

If no nations recognize there was one, that means it didn't happen. Simple as that.

[frosty spoke]

Genocide is only recognized by the UN when it fits their narrative

[frosty spoke]

Can't prosecute a man who's not in court

[heady jungle]

Lemme go on a spell check here

Nvm i confused the 2 words

[heady jungle]

It will only get worst

i thought chicagoans were smart?

Ig not

[robust zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[pallid vigil]

they defined the term for a reason, plus war crimes doesn't equal genocide

[robust zinc]

Genocide denial time

I applaud you Paladin for having such a woke opinion 👏

HOLY SHIT

Are you one of those woke americans! 😱

[heady jungle]

Genocide denial time

And banned

[pallid vigil]

A US General at the UN even said how "The problem of avoiding the killing of innocent civilians and damages to the civilian economy is continually present and given my personal attention."

Not just any US General

Fucking MacArthur

[heady jungle]

By your own logic

The Soviets killing Two Million Afghan Civilians was a genocide

And it went unrecognized by the UN

damn

[heady jungle]

One of which was them bombing an Afghan Children's school

Then going in and executing the survivors

By your own logic that was a genocide and it went unrecognized by the UN

[pallid vigil]

That 3 Million wounded tho

[robust zinc]

Ofc he's gonna dismiss that statistic like some madlad

[heady jungle]

He's probably gonna also dismiss the statistic that Communism didn't kill 100 Million people

[robust zinc]

Actually I recall him saying that

[heady jungle]

Of course he would

[robust zinc]

Like how he downplays the gulag just because it only existed for a few decades

[heady jungle]

Even though the Soviets had a MAJOR smallpox outbreak in the 1970s

And covered it up to the point we only have four people that they recorded who got the deadly diseas

[pallid vigil]

They're just a continuation of Lenin's Forced Labour Camps

[robust zinc]

Oh oh that one too btw!

[heady jungle]

Smallpox is too deadly to the point it would've just stopped at four people

[robust zinc]

He actually supports forced collaboration!

[heady jungle]

The fact that Paladin is beating a dead horse is just

[heady jungle]

And nobody has banned him yet?

[robust zinc]

While also at the same time saying slavery is bullshit

How hypocritical oh my god

[heady jungle]

A truely conflicted man

Because that is just slavery under a different name

[pallid vigil]

Those 18 million who went to the Gulags rly makes me think

[robust zinc]

Lol I might get demoted at this point with the amount of insults I bombarded him, but really this man deserves it

[heady jungle]

The 18 Million on record I might add

[robust zinc]

Besides he's a dead man walking at this point

We already reported him btw

[heady jungle]

You probably won't get demoted if you screenshot what we has said

[pallid vigil]

I reported him once

warned him

[heady jungle]

If you screenshot what he has said then you have evidence

[pallid vigil]

and yeah

[robust zinc]

Oh boi do we have everything

[pallid vigil]

The Bot sees all

[robust zinc]

Griffbot records every deleted message anyways, even if he deletes it

[heady jungle]

The fact that Paladin unknowingly went against 2 sents and 4 peeps makes me laugh

[robust zinc]

Man everyone in this forum disagrees with him

[pallid vigil]

I legit got here like last night

[heady jungle]

What do you expect, his name is Paladin

[robust zinc]

He's some brainwashed ignorant dipshit

[heady jungle]

A game that is a blatant rip off of overwatch

[heady jungle]

Fair 🤣

Not to mention

A south side chicagoan

[heady jungle]

That or he is intentionally doing this

And he is sharing it with another discord server

[robust zinc]

I don't think he's even a troll, he's actually dead serious lol

[heady jungle]

To try and discredit Griffin's Credibility

[robust zinc]

"Look at me going off courageously against dozens of people who disagree with me!"

[heady jungle]

A death wish ngl

[heady jungle]

He's literally acting like a Crusader

[robust zinc]

As expected from a purist

[heady jungle]

The moment he mentions Michael Parenti

Then we ban him

Michael Parenti is a domestic terrorist

[keen wind]

Especially since 300,000 dead North Korean civilians is enough to count as genocide

[heady jungle]

I mean if he attributes all of that to the United States and the UN Coalition

Considering the Chinese counter offensive that took place

[pallid vigil]

that means me killing millions in HOI4 is Genocide

[heady jungle]

The 300,000 North Korean Civilians dead was the total amount that was lost after three years of war. In that three years A LOT happened...

So I highly doubt ALL of it can be attributed to the UN Coalition

And that isn't some genocide denial, that is just common sense...

[robust zinc]

Just because the losses are North korean civilians, doesn't mean the North Koreans have no play in it

[heady jungle]

But of course since he is a Communist and North Korea is a "Communist State"

He is gonna deny they had any role in it

The excuse being "What kind of nation kills there own civilians"

[robust zinc]

I don't know much about the Korean war, but I'd guess it's fairly similar to how scorched earth tactics left many civilians in the axis occupied territory of the soviet union without any food

[keen wind]

He says the US did it with international bombing strikes on civilians, attempting to do genocide

[heady jungle]

And does he have proof of that?

Preferably from a Primary Source that isn't a .com website

And preferably a source that is written by a scholar that isn't biased

[keen wind]

This: https://apnews.com/article/international-news-asia-pacific-ap-top-news-north-korea-dd6256bad51e458cb2e8a1bf64b5c2b6
And that extremely anti-american channel

[heady jungle]

That isn't a primary source

[keen wind]

The source for this article is literally the NK army though

[heady jungle]

That means its completely biased

And therefore means its invalid in debate

[keen wind]

Exactly

I showed him that the SK and NK civilian death tolls were similar, which wouldn't make sense if the US was committing genocide, the NK death toll should be much higher

[heady jungle]

I mean by his logic North Korea shouldn't exist

[heady jungle]

Speaking of tracks, @heady jungle paladin needs a fuckin lesson jn american railroading

[broken lodge]

What the fuck has this turned into

Why does this have 3680 messages in it

[hybrid iris]

Shortly

Everybody here diaagrees with paladin

Who argues that ussr was good

[broken lodge]

Yes i was here when the chat started

but how did it turn into north korea

[hybrid iris]

Honestly i dont know

I look here ocasionally

And say some view things, but usualy i dont commit much to the duscussion

Paladin argues that usa commited genocide in korea, because it was racist

But i dont know how that makes ussr good

[broken lodge]

Alright theres a 95% chance paladin plays the anthem of the ussr on the school bus everyday, bought the communist manifesto and never read it once

[hybrid iris]

Also he denied holodomor

Which is a major no no

[broken lodge]

denied by saying it wasn't a genocide or that it didn't happen at all

[hybrid iris]

.

[hybrid iris]

Here

[broken lodge]

Alright

let me test one thing

@frosty spoke Explain Appropriation of Surplus Value from a Marxist perspective (You could if you knew what you were talking about)

[silent orbit]

I can find a whole video "debunking" vaccines, doesn't make it true

[heady jungle]

J-just leave him be, he already lost his crusade

[sonic charm]

USSR stinky

[heady jungle]

I can still smell it 30 years later

[frosty spoke]

Ok,whatever yall wanted to say to me during this convo,say it now,because I'm not reading this 500 message conversation that I wasn't here for

[heady jungle]

You can live in your little world, we don’t care

[sonic charm]

USSR was bad

[frosty spoke]

So you're a nazi?

[frosty spoke]

I know that isn't the entirety

[heady jungle]

Of course you would say that

[frosty spoke]

Answer the question

[heady jungle]

No I'm not a Nazi

[frosty spoke]

Then don't cite that book

[heady jungle]

I'm not citing that book

I am being a realist

The Soviets covered up A LOT

[frosty spoke]

In fact don't even bring it up here unless you're criticizing it

[heady jungle]

You are the one who brought up a channel that said the CIA killed Kennedy

Don't talk to me about bringing up sources

[frosty spoke]

You didn't watch the entire video,and don't change topic

[heady jungle]

Your right I didn't as its blatantly not true

Don't try and hide yourself Joker

We know it's you

[frosty spoke]

The author not only admits to being desperate for the 100 million figure, but he also sympathizes for nazis by counting them as deaths. He also counts Vietnamese people who died during the war

[heady jungle]

Actually better yet just admit you are Hoxah Cat already trying to redeem yourself

[frosty spoke]

Bro is this an argument or a LARP?

[heady jungle]

Just admit you are the Joker guy

You aren't gonna prove anything by hiding it

[frosty spoke]

[heady jungle]

He already evaded a ban once

Don't do it twice

[pallid vigil]

I am

[frosty spoke]

Also you didn't even watch the video so you don't even know what the guy says ik the video

[frosty spoke]

That's not a surprise

[pallid vigil]

Yeah cus I’ve always joked about that

[heady jungle]

Your right as I am not gonna watch a video that is from a channel that preaches American Genocide

[frosty spoke]

Ban for saying something you disagree with?

[heady jungle]

No

You are being banned for violating the rules

[frosty spoke]

You can't just choose to ignore a source you don't like

[pallid vigil]

I can if it’s invalid

[frosty spoke]

Which rules?

[heady jungle]

When it comes to preaching genocide

Yes I can

[frosty spoke]

Preaching which genocide

[heady jungle]

Don't act stupid dude to redeem yourself

You know who you are Hoxah Cat

[frosty spoke]

This forum is around 3800 messages long

[heady jungle]

That YOU started

[frosty spoke]

There's lots of mention of genocide,so which genocide did I "preach"?

[frosty spoke]

So you expect me to memorize all 3800 messages?

[pallid vigil]

[heady jungle]

[heady jungle]

No we expect maturity is what we expect

^

[frosty spoke]

Especially the ones I wasn't here to see?

Just text a screenshot of me preaching genocide

[heady jungle]

The fact you cited a YouTuve Channel

[frosty spoke]

You literally just accused me of being the joker

[heady jungle]

That proposes genocide of all Americans

Big Red Flag

And I mean HUGE Red Flag

[frosty spoke]

So every source I post that means I magically agree with everything the author said?

[pallid vigil]

Ayo lemme see that

[heady jungle]

Unless its argumentative, yes you agree

Damn

[frosty spoke]

Not to mention,I was just posting because I thought he didn't know about the bombings

[heady jungle]

Ik chicago education sucked, but damn

[heady jungle]

Your right because you are the user "TheJoker" that fled from here after he was called out

[pallid vigil]

What is this American Genocide video

[frosty spoke]

Bro who even is that

[heady jungle]

There was a user here "TheJoker" who was disguised as a YouTuber that goes by the name Hoxah Cat

Hoxah Cat is a devout Communist who believes that to achieve Communism all Americans, Jews, Arabs, Muslims, and Christians need to be killed

[frosty spoke]

How about EVERYONE here find EVERY source they used and see if they agree with ALL opinions of ALL the authors that made the source

[heady jungle]

You know who you are Paladin as you talk and act just like Joker did

[pallid vigil]

The Internet

[frosty spoke]

Yeah you don't even know what communism or socialism is

[pallid vigil]

Cap

CAP

[heady jungle]

Yeah I do

You are just trying to hide everything

[frosty spoke]

There is no saying in any Communist literature saying that people of a specific race,gender,or religion should be killed,especially not without aggravation

[frosty spoke]

This isn't even mental gymnastics anymore,this is mental aerobatics

[heady jungle]

No its not

You know who you are

You've already been warned once

[frosty spoke]

Bro is this elementary school?

[frosty spoke]

Okay prove it's me.

[heady jungle]

And given that you tried to evade warnings for violating the rules

[frosty spoke]

I Cleary stated that I wasn't objecting to the warning

But you weren't even there to see I don't think

You probably just took these other guys at face value

[heady jungle]

I mean it's not hard

[frosty spoke]

Anyway I gotta consume sustenance, catch y'all later

[heady jungle]

CanadianJason and Wheels here were here when Joker did his stunt

Aye

[robust zinc]

Ah yes because everyone should believe in every bullshit

Being open minded doesn't mean consuming and believing every information you encounter

It's such a shame mother nature gave you a brain that you don't even use

[pallid vigil]

Message Number 3800

[frosty spoke]

@robust zinc as in,you can't disprove the source without even knowing what they said
Also I just thought he didn't even know what i was talking about,so I just linked a video about the bombings,you're twisting my words

[heady jungle]

You can disprove a source by looking at the type of arguments he is throwing at

By looking at the other claims he has made

[frosty spoke]

You didn't even see what he was saying in the other vids

[heady jungle]

For example his claim that the CIA killed John F. Kennedy, which is blatantly not true, kills all his credibility

[frosty spoke]

Yeah you didn't actually watch that vid

[heady jungle]

I'm not going to watch a video that is not true

Especially a video that is promoting sedition

[frosty spoke]

If you actually took this seriously,you would have watched and noticed that he actually leaves you to answer for yourself at the end and throughout the video he only suggests multiple suspects

[subtle pebble]

How were you a communist?

[heady jungle]

Look at the title again

As it tells me you didn't watch it either

[frosty spoke]

He never actually accused the cia of doing it,only telling you that there's reasons to suspect them

[heady jungle]

He literally says in the title of the video

The CIA killed Kennedy

If the title says it all then the video is promoting that idea

Its that simple...

[frosty spoke]

A thumbnail+title≠the actual video. He's just click clickbating because nobody would click to see what he says.
Its that simple...

[heady jungle]

That isn't what he is doing

But ok

[heady jungle]

And plus here you are admitting that is what the video was about

[frosty spoke]

Do you have any idea of how you tubers operate?

[pallid vigil]

some of them don't clickbait lmao

[heady jungle]

He isn't clickbaiting

[frosty spoke]

Yes,he never actually accused anyone in the video

[heady jungle]

He's trying to promote revolution

[frosty spoke]

Yeah it's completely obvious you don't know anything about what your talking about

[heady jungle]

Says the guy who sourced him in the first place

If I were President the guy you sourced would've been arrested

And brought up on Federal Charges of conspiracy, hate speech, etc.

[heady jungle]

So would his editors and his associates

[frosty spoke]

That would actually go against free speech

[subtle pebble]

For this source, I would not use it as the only 2 options are for reform or no reform. Those that would rather have the soviet union disbanded would still vote yes as having a reformed state is a safer bet than a revolution.

[heady jungle]

Free Speech does not promote sedition

Just saying...

Freedom of Speech doesn't promote civil disobedience to the law

[frosty spoke]

You'd be violating the constitution

[frosty spoke]

You're just saying what you want it to be instead of proving it to be what you want it to be

[pallid vigil]

that's normal

[heady jungle]

Supremacy Clause

Look it up

[frosty spoke]

You'd still be violating the constitution

[heady jungle]

How many times has the constitution been violated in American History

And like nobody gave a sh*t

Because its happened A LOT

[frosty spoke]

That's not helping your case

[pallid vigil]

Kennedy getting JFKed by the CIA is a conspiracy theory

[heady jungle]

Yeah

[frosty spoke]

He provided reason of multiple people and organizations on why they might have had incentive to kill him

This is petty as hell

[pallid vigil]

incentives, it doesn't mean they actually wanted to

[heady jungle]

Dude

[frosty spoke]

EXACTLY

[heady jungle]

The Soviets had the most incentive to kill Kennedy more than the CIA did

The guy who killed Kennedy was in fact a Communist

[frosty spoke]

HE NEVER EXPLICITLY SAID IN THE VIDEO THAT THE CIA DID IT

But you wouldn't know because you wilfully choose ignorance

[heady jungle]

Says the guy who denied the Holodomor Famine

[frosty spoke]

Don't change the topic!

[heady jungle]

You brought up ignorance

[frosty spoke]

Watch the video

[heady jungle]

I thought I would brought up your ignorance

[pallid vigil]

So what's the point of the video

[heady jungle]

I'm not gonna watch a video from a person who probably is apart of an organization that has me on their hit list

[frosty spoke]

Yeah,and you choosing it,how hard is it to watch a video???

[pallid vigil]

Ain't nobody got time for that

[heady jungle]

How hard is it? Let me explain

[frosty spoke]

Cleary your mom ain't had time to raise you@pallid vigil

[heady jungle]

I was once a Communist

[pallid vigil]

she's had enough time, lmao

[frosty spoke]

I did not ask,it's just a video

[heady jungle]

I am currently on a hit list that was comprised of a group of some of the most prominent Communist Parties in the world

[subtle pebble]

I would suggest that you not insult your opposition even if they are rude please.

[frosty spoke]

How hard is it to go on YT and watch a video?

[pallid vigil]

I'm not even rude

I was referencing a meme

[heady jungle]

I get stalked and harassed by the people I once affiliated with on a daily basis

[frosty spoke]

Not rude?

[heady jungle]

That video is probably baited to log my IP address

[pallid vigil]

It's a meme?

a classic meme

[heady jungle]

Then give the location of where I live as well as everything I have signed under my name

[frosty spoke]

It's being used in a disrespectful manner

[pallid vigil]

no, it was being used in a meme matter

[heady jungle]

And then its going to give those people who are currently hunting me down for betraying the Communist Faith

So no I ain't gonna click on it

For the sake of my own good

[frosty spoke]

If you were worried about your location being tracked you lost that battle long before you were born

[frosty spoke]

You do realize that... you can use the discord third party YT viewing feature, right?

[heady jungle]

So you are admitting that that link you posted here is baited

[frosty spoke]

You never actually had to leave discord

[frosty spoke]

Bro what

[heady jungle]

So when we click on it

You can see our IP address

That is what you are saying to us right now

[subtle pebble]

I would not describe you as rude as per the standards of the internet. I apologize for insinuating that you are rude. However, I would not describe you as kind in that message either, and Palandin feels insulted from it. It was an advice to Palandin

[frosty spoke]

You can search up the video yourself if you want bro..

[heady jungle]

You posted a baited link

That you are using to grab our IP Addresses

Out of spite...

[subtle pebble]

How did you become a communist?

[pallid vigil]

lore

[heady jungle]

Not now dude

[subtle pebble]

noted

[heady jungle]

@pallid vigil

I think its ban hammer time

[frosty spoke]

You can find the video that way

[frosty spoke]

It's morbin' time

[pallid vigil]

is it morbin' time?

[frosty spoke]

Always has been

[pallid vigil]

Morb

[subtle pebble]

rip

[keen wind]

morbius is a capitalist invention

[pallid vigil]

Not Morbius

[subtle pebble]

mon dieu!

[frosty spoke]

Fun fact https://youtu.be/qtujD-AdQGo

[subtle pebble]

Well, certainly the U.S. military promotes certain kinds of movies by providing subsidies to those that depict the US military as good guys like in monster movies, soviet movies are not exactly free from material constraints either.

[heady jungle]

Well I can imagine

Anything that went against the state in the Soviet Union was banned

Punishable by death

[subtle pebble]

I would also not recommend Maoist Rebel Radio as a reliable source as he does not understand Marxism. For example, he states in the debate with Muke, "Marx doesn't necessarily stand against profit". However, this is factually wrong as the Gotha Program has Marx explicitly oppose profit seeking enterprises like worker co-operatives.

[frosty spoke]

I was saying fun fact because I found it interesting and the film industry came up

[subtle pebble]

I see, thank you

[heady jungle]

Nah m8 there’s da supremacy clause, look it up

oh wait, chicagoans dont know how to bc they too busy getting hit by metra trains

[pallid vigil]

!rules

[trim blade]

1. Conduct yourself in a civil manner, do not be rude towards other members. There is no tolerance toward any kind of bigotry. Racist and sexist slurs are not permitted under any circumstance.

2. No suggestive, NSFW, or anime content of any kind.

3. No discussion of modern politics or events past the year 2012.

4. Advertising of non-historical content is not allowed unless given express permission by an admin.

5. Do not spam in this server.

6. Do not add alt-accounts to this server.

7. No unsolicited pinging of Armchair Historian team members, including The Armchair Historian.

8. Images and videos posted must be directly related to the channel its posted in.

[frosty spoke]

Oh hell nah I don't live in Chicago

[heady jungle]

You said chicago so many times tho

Anyways

[frosty spoke]

I think it may just be too late.
Just a thought...

[heady jungle]

you put yourself there

[frosty spoke]

I think it's a good example of the average American city

[heady jungle]

It isn’t

No city is average

Smh

[keen wind]

It ain't

[pallid vigil]

better late then never, so Abide by the Rules

[frosty spoke]

Or Atleast the best

[keen wind]

Minneapolis is much better

[subtle pebble]

What do you stand to gain from talking to the people of this server? They are not really open to have their minds changed and you are not exactly popular amongst them.

[pallid vigil]

I know ur new here n all. But this has been going on for a month

[subtle pebble]

Thank you for the information

[frosty spoke]

Damn,for real? I feel old

[keen wind]

💀

[subtle pebble]

You don't have to act tough. Sometimes, it is best to walk away. I understand that you are enthusiastic; however, from my limited perspective, I do not think these actions might be most fitting to your goal.