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[umbral marlin]

Bro you cant guarantee results like this, that's just sleazy 🤣 you should know better

[iron tree]

you can tho its not luck

[iron tree]

Also im going to refer you to rule 11

[umbral marlin]

Job board is a place for feedback, if you dont, like it you can make complaint

[iron tree]

What you said wasnt feedback, it was more of an attack on my guarantee of quality, please do not spam in my thread!

[umbral marlin]

Not sure why you are getting defensive or personal, like I said, you can complain if you wish. But you've done nothing to even prove that these are your results. You simply are making a guarantee to something every single creator in this ecosystem is trying to achieve. If you could guarantee results like this on every map you wouldn't be giving it away. So don't make false promises, for this I would refer you to rule 7

[iron tree]

Getting defensive because you are giving my potential clients a prejudice opinion before they've even spoken with me! And ofc i can provide proof in dms to clients, dont need to justify myself to you. Now please delete your messages from my thread.

[umbral marlin]

Rule 7, please be honest and transparent, nobody can guarantee results like this. You are simply fishing for people to come to dm just to give them advice like "spend 1000's for sponsored row, or get epic picks" is misleading. Pretty sure a posting like this is completely against the rules of the job board. I have sent a report.

[iron tree]

You are entitled to your own opinion, however it is not your job, infact against rule 11, to go on a vigilante spree. Ive reported your messages as they are a clear violation of rule 11, i would recommend you remove your messages and move on

[umbral marlin]

🤣

[iron tree]

Up to you 🤷‍♂️ my customers get the results they pay for

[umbral marlin]

Guaranteeing outcomes like the amount of players someone achieves in their island, or how much they will earn from a monetization payout by following your advice, mentorship, or tips, will never not be scammy

[iron tree]

Never said that though, i said "dm me for results like this", ones is luck, twice is a coincidence more then that and its skill

Now enough with your envy

[umbral marlin]

Enough fraud xD

[iron tree]

Hire us and you will see

[umbral marlin]

Listen im not saying you or your team arent good devs or builders or w/e. Im just saying you cant make guarantee to number of players. Because the discovery system literally is 99% luck. Unless you are a marketing firm or something bringing players into peoples games, you really shouldnt be talking about the number of players as a form of result for what you are building. Instead you should focus on the individual mechanics, builds, or code you create, and showcase that instead.

[iron tree]

It really isn't luck, if it was luck then new maps would never reach front page, beacause player's play maps that are fun, not because they have discovery, that's why day 1 retention and day7 retention are huge factors in success, which is why replayability is important!

[umbral marlin]

Please show me one new map on the front page that got there strictly based on the content of its game, rather than having some outside promotion, help, or influence via outside marketing, epics picks, social media posts, or luck etc.

[iron tree]

Marketing is ofc important, but its not the sole factor for success! How are people supposed to know about your map if its not promoted! Hence why we offer help in the entire process, from planning to conception and execution.

Look at jaguar for example, they throw millions at marketing but to no avail

[umbral marlin]

So how much do I need to pay your team to make me a 1v1 map that will be on the front page for the next year?

I need to be guarenteed it will stay there that long

[iron tree]

That is not the type of service we offer, that just not how it works.

You are hating for no reason

[umbral marlin]

What how???

Bruh you literally say i can get results like these. I want a 1v1 map that will do this.

[iron tree]

🤦

Mods will deal with you

[umbral marlin]

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[iron tree]

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