#Enoch

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pine wigeon
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❤️: 400hp
⚔️: 15(+10H if he using revolver)
🗡️: 1.25s / 0.975s w revolver
🏹: Toxic dead range
👢: Archer mov speed
🏷️: Heavy, General, Ranged, Order
🪙: 500 gold, 100 mana
⌛: 50 sec train time
👤: 9 pop

Passive
# Duality

  • This general can be paired with other general that have singleton or lone wolf, - However unable to have more than 2 general

-> If lazarus in the deck, This general unlock 'assist defense' ability

** # Assist defense**
(auto cast despite passive ability, 30s cooldown)
Whenever lazarus get stunned, spend 2 revolver ammo dealing 20 dmg with 15% atk debuff & 15% dmg reduction debuff to the attacker

** # Blueprint**
Trap will getting upgrade depend on upgrade path:
Barrack 1 - Increase trap amount from 2 > 3
Forge 1 - Trap inflict 4 burn & 1 volt charge
Armory 1 - +25% more range trap radius & -3 damage reduction down for 12 seconds
Temple 1 - Flash twice instead of once after trigger

Active

# Evade & Locke (cd: 25s)

  • Dodge and Reloading 3 ammo on revolver
    [Perfect dodge]: Instantly refill 6 ammo on revolver

# Precision scope (cd: 35s)

  • Spend 2 revolver ammo, dealing 15(+10 H)dmg each to 4 unit, inflict 3 tremor
  • Using crossbow shooting 3 times dealing 15 dmg each, inflict 3 deprived to 5 unit

# Automatic Contraption
(Swap this skill, if revolver ammo is 0)

  • Spend all 6 ammo from revolver dealing 15(+10H) dmg each bullet, debuff 10% dmg to 3 unit for 15 sec, inflict 2 tremor
  • 6th bullet trigger tremor burst

# Binding light mana crystal (cd: 15s)

  • Create trap to selected area, Inflict 2 tremor
    Crystal trap: Stun 6 unit for 5 seconds, while deal 0 damage (limit: 2)
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Tremor formula =

  • 4+ tremor count: Light stun

  • 8+ tremor count: Middle stun/Unit slide

  • 12+ tremor count: Heavy stun/Ragdoll

  • [!] At 9+ tremor: Allow stun riprider and giants
    Max stacks: 15

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Deprived Formula =
(Yellow version/Normal unit)

  • 1 Deprived = 5% gold lost corresponding to unit cost (example if archer cost 300 gold, but get hit with 1 deprived then enemy will losing 15 gold)

  • This effect times 6 on light units

  • Every 10 Deprived = 25 mana lost
    Therefore with pattern, 10/20/30... So on. It will only reduce 25 mana, can't be increased

(Blue version/General unit)
1 Deprived = 10% gold cost from current gold & mana

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Lore:

Lazarus (Thera AU/Pillar of Netzach): Here, your requests...

Drops 110 eclipsor corpse

Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): What in the name of iris... I just requested 45, how u get this much-
Lazarus (Thera AU/Pillar of Netzach): We were ambushed, who could expect that many eclipsors
Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): Right... What about others materials?
Lazarus (Thera AU/Pillar of Netzach): Nothing, Our scouts didn't find anything on the ruins or even at eclipsor hideout area
Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): Dangit, i were so close to finishing it, either way...

Enoch hands out 380 ahns to lazarus

Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): There, Your payment. Our next hunt i will be there with you.

Lazarus takes his payment and leave

After lazarus leave, enoch take some cig to unleash the stress

Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): Where the hell marrowkai hiding his aether crystal... He must be carrying it everywhere he go...
Enoch (Icaron AU/Pillar of Yesod): I could ask rynn-shi but... That dragon bastard was scary.

Enoch prepare revolver named 'solitude' and crossbow named 'Ishtar' for tommorrows hunt

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@cursive tinsel @finite cypress

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Happy reading.

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Also u too @fickle comet

pine wigeon
pine wigeon
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@errant barn read NOW

errant barn
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Fukk off

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No

pine wigeon
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READ.

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@scenic jackal

livid elk
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Crossbow does 13.6 dps
gun does 16.7 dps (27.8 heavy dps)

scenic jackal
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No

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Biblical naming is cringe, no thank u

livid elk
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it’s not really

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it depends on the execution of the name

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anyways it’s obviously overpowered
Kytchu and Archis have less dps and less health for more cost

finite cypress
pine wigeon
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it were not voted

pine wigeon
finite cypress
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Tbh Enoch doesn't fit this character but biblical naming as a whole is not cringe

pine wigeon
pine wigeon
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i'm just fine with it

finite cypress
pine wigeon
livid elk
finite cypress
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I've not seen anyone else use biblical names or terms

scenic jackal
finite cypress
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But a lot of people use Greek and Latin naming

fresh iron
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Very religious I guess

finite cypress
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John is also biblical

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Now u gonna call someone named John religious

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Even if he is not

livid elk
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as in obviously biblical
not something that is common nowadays

finite cypress
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Noah

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There's so much

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Just let names be names

scenic jackal
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Yeah and they are uncreative

livid elk
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common names are common names

finite cypress
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Muhammed is the most common name on earth and it is based on the prophet of islam

pine wigeon
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i'm just following project moon way, cuz history, religious and human psychology, etc. Is just that fascinating on its own

finite cypress
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Now u gonna say Muhammed isn't a Islamic name cuz it's common

livid elk
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stereotypically it’s a Muslim name

scenic jackal
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Those are all religeous names

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Now a name doesnt make yhe person

pine wigeon
finite cypress
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Let names be names

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No sort of naming is cringe or anything

livid elk
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I have my Viking generals named after Icelandic words

pine wigeon
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especially someone who fucking thirst over "lore"

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and i really fucking gave it to him

scenic jackal
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Lore be good

pine wigeon
scenic jackal
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U domt even gotta read these days, u can just listen

pine wigeon
livid elk
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the stuff I disliked to read about your rynn-shi were the numerous passives

pine wigeon
finite cypress
pine wigeon
livid elk
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those passives function as multiple each

pine wigeon
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and this, my post, just 3

errant barn
scenic jackal
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3-4 passive > 3-4 actives

livid elk
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weird

errant barn
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The most passives something has outside of tag passives is 2

scenic jackal
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Oh also most generals have 4 passives

pine wigeon
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also, the pair interaction is just for assist defense, without lazarus. enoch assist defense won't tirgger or even active

errant barn
livid elk
errant barn
scenic jackal
errant barn
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Outside of tag passives

scenic jackal
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Outside of tag passives most generals have 0 passives

errant barn
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The most actual passives is 2, being a cost reduction and a training time reduction

livid elk
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and most of those passives are explained in one or two lines

pine wigeon
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:/
but i didn't found it weird cuz its just upgrade base path

errant barn
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Training time decrease is not a tag passive, neither is a cost reduction

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Does xiphos third combo hit count as a passive?

livid elk
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yes

scenic jackal
errant barn
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Okay so the highest actual passives is 3

livid elk
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he said they’re not tag passives but rather actual passives

errant barn
livid elk
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elite and relentless are tag passives despite being written out

errant barn
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The training time passives on those are actually exclusive to the generals

pine wigeon
scenic jackal
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Rip theras way of the meric

pine wigeon
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the second one is like, semi passive
laz on the deck? yes
laz NOT on the deck? no

scenic jackal
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Cj new way back then that magimeric was gonns be a meta level threat so he removed iy

errant barn
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Like the chaos passive heal which is the same set number regardless of which chaos unit it is

scenic jackal
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Then theres hidden passives

errant barn
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Not even half way through the post and there's already a new mechanic that uses tags that don't exist in-game and has scaling with every upgrade except bastion

livid elk
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hm

scenic jackal
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Where does the 5th button go?

pine wigeon
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gone

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LIKE YO DAD

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🗣️

finite cypress
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Wha?

pine wigeon
finite cypress
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u ain't tuff

finite cypress
pine wigeon
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and i fell off miserably

scenic jackal
pine wigeon
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oh shit it is

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@finite cypress look how funny i am

scenic jackal
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Hoe fid u know

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Are u stalking me

pine wigeon
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👁️

finite cypress
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Crawler general is peak

scenic jackal
pine wigeon
finite cypress
pine wigeon
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:3

pine wigeon
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if u didn't noticed, ur screwed

finite cypress
scenic jackal
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Is it 1 volt charge?

finite cypress
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And it's pretty strong

pine wigeon
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pretty much

scenic jackal
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Pretty much?

finite cypress
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Ngl this guy is a little too strong for being cheaper than a Shadowrath

livid elk
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more health and more dps and more powers than Archis

pine wigeon
errant barn
pine wigeon
errant barn
finite cypress
livid elk
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disgustingly cheap

errant barn
finite cypress
errant barn
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IT'S 100 MANA

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BRO WHAT

finite cypress
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U blind

errant barn
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I read it as 150

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WHY

pine wigeon
errant barn
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DOES THIS GENERAL

finite cypress
livid elk
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I made Kaldraenn cost 100 more gold and mana and he’s more balanced

errant barn
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ONLY COST

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500/100

finite cypress
scenic jackal
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This isnt s general, clearly its just some guy

finite cypress
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25 currency lower than shadow btw

finite cypress
errant barn
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The only decent thing about this general is that it only has 15 base damage

pine wigeon
finite cypress
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Shred*

errant barn
livid elk
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but for a ranged general has more dps than the two archer generals

pine wigeon
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might nerfing range to be slightly short

finite cypress
pine wigeon
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so his playestyle much more front

finite cypress
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He's a bit imbalanced

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No

livid elk
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way

finite cypress
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Very imbalanced

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Concept is cool

livid elk
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waaay overpowered

finite cypress
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Tremor is very cool

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And this guy can also get gold for u?

finite cypress
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Holy multitaskwr

pine wigeon
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deprived is way to bankrupt ur enemy eco

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i mean do u even noticed it represent sin of "greed"?

livid elk
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somehow I still think Kaldraenn’s archery mode can beat Enoch

finite cypress
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I slightly misunderstood it

pine wigeon
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also all enoch skill are like very little damage

finite cypress
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And he's cheap

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And he can plant trap

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Enoch wins overall usage wise

livid elk
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yeah that was based on raw stats and their different roles

errant barn
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Why is there so much stun?

livid elk
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it’s the cheapness and the health to cost ratio that makes things overpowered

errant barn
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Too much shit

livid elk
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as well as that

errant barn
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This thing has too much shit

pine wigeon
errant barn
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I did

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Fuck you

pine wigeon
livid elk
errant barn
pine wigeon
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lmao fig crashout, with 3 different downvote

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what amazing view after long time

errant barn
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Genuinely never ping me on your posts again

pine wigeon
finite cypress
pine wigeon
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:3

errant barn
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You did not explain jackshit in the lore

pine wigeon
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it ain't free unless u figure out

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all by yourself

errant barn
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Could've posted some vague ass explaination or introduction to the character at least

pine wigeon
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i will give the answer if u did some search on the keyword i provide

left sapphire
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Ping me too bro

left sapphire
pine wigeon
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blatantly saying "it doesn't explain the lore"

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its all coded, its keyword have hidden meaning

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truly just how u put it together

finite cypress
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He doesn't like you

pine wigeon
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but never fucking take time to deep search what those "words" even mean

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therefore i didn't ping gax

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T.S.N.H. (Think smarter, not harder)

left sapphire
left sapphire
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Lore problem can be solved later

pine wigeon
left sapphire
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Honestly I also think that your ideas should be in this game
I can understand how simple is this game
But I can't make ideas like you

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Now let me see
How is this

left sapphire
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Does he have different deprivation?

pine wigeon
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whenever he use crossow

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crossbow = deprived
revolver = tremor

left sapphire
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What about icon
Will it be different too?

pine wigeon
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literally flash trap

left sapphire
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Does this trap means deprived?

pine wigeon
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if no, then no

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simple as that

left sapphire
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Mostly Forge

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Others are okay

pine wigeon
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a design plan is like, truly depend what player want

left sapphire
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I can see the chat only about name💀

pine wigeon
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Barrack? more trap
Forge? Indirect dmg
Armory? Effectiveness
Temple? Stun 2 times instead of 1 time

left sapphire
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Why would Forge give an elemental advantage😭

pine wigeon
left sapphire
pine wigeon
pine wigeon
left sapphire
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Swipe this
Forge > temple

pine wigeon
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Temple already known for faster cooldown reduction

pine wigeon
left sapphire
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It is mostly a magical upgrade

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Trap infiction > Temple
Twice Flash > Armory
Range increase > Forge

pine wigeon
scenic jackal
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Pike, egiant, wall= forge

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Its mostly the mythics and elementals

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But yes

pine wigeon
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Literal floating gem of mana

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And i made it 1 time use, instead of lifetime

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Give forge allowing it to give damages

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Temple makes it active longer

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Armory is just, well... Make the flash much stronger prioritize blindness over walls

fickle comet
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i gotta make all this reading worth it

left sapphire
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Oh shit voted wrong emoji 😭

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Tremor is Divine💀

livid elk
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so go to Kaldraenn and remove your emoji there as well

pine wigeon
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the fact that, it get downvote because of long text was too funny

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i was about to change its cost and some active skill

livid elk
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better but still not sure how a crossbow would reload faster than the bow&arrow
since crossbows are known for reloading slower

livid elk
pine wigeon
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i made it slower

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what? u want me turn it as slow as albowtross?

livid elk
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albowtross use a freaking crossbow too

pine wigeon
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ehh, whatver might turn it to 1.35s instead

scenic jackal
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Cross bows do reload so slow

left sapphire
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@pine wigeon
Can you tell me why there are 4 down voters?
What do they don't like this?

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Also no upvote except me?

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It's just like your previous posts

pine wigeon
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even tho how simple sw3 truly is

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also i don't remember pinging sam here

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but, sure i guess

pine wigeon
# left sapphire Why maxim hate this?
  1. Crossbow being way too fast to reload
  2. Too many passive (even tho its just 2, one of the passive is like semi-passive for lore purpose)
  3. Having way too much utility
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also derpived + tremor is fucking busted for cheap general like this

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before i make video of my fan ideas, i need to make unbalanced first. Therefore i could possibly fix these

left sapphire
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💀

pine wigeon
left sapphire
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Well, i don't know much about crossbow, but I can see high CD for crossbow in Minecraft

left sapphire
pine wigeon
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and i did remember where i said

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my character will be very fucking fast

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try blink, you're dead.

pine wigeon
livid elk
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Öflugur has an attack speed equal to the crawler and his tornado attack is written in DPS

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also one of my reasons for hate are the original stats and cost

cheaper than Archis yet way stronger (super imbalance if I may say)

livid elk
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Hmm I haven’t really tried breaking down these abilities and passives

PASSIVES

Duality
can be in a deck with Rynn-Shi and doesn’t give Lazarus his debuff

Assist Defence
uses 2 ammo to deal 20 damage to something that causes stun to Lazarus and also applies 15% atk debuff twice somehow on the same enemy

Blueprint
see more in abilities

ABILITIES

Evade & Locke
dodge which is probably roll
it also reloads 3 ammo

perfect dodge reloads 6 ammo but I am not sure how one gets counted

Precision Scope
use 2 ammo to deal 15 +10H splash damage and 3 tremor to 4 targets twice

if no ammo then deal 15 splash damage and 3 deprived to 5 targets thrice

Automatic Contraption
basically Precision Scope but with 6 ammo and 10% atk debuff
however inflicts only 2 tremor on the final shot

Blinding Light
place a trap and inflict 2 tremor
limit of 2 on battlefield

trap deals 5 seconds stun to 6 units

Barracks 1 increases limit to 3
Forge 1 makes it apply 4 burn and 1 electric
Armory 1 increases range by 25% but also applies 3 atk debuff to enemies hit
Temple 1 has longer visual

livid elk
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however 4 abilities doesn’t give room for the normal attack button

ranged units have a ‘follow projectile’ button as replacement for the attack button

livid elk
pine wigeon
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Jesus y'all didn't notice the word "swap"

pine wigeon
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This is like, Normal/Enhance skill but in the same spot

pine wigeon
livid elk
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so… use 6 ammo when you don’t have ammo -_-

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kinda makes no sense

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you deserve the negative emotes

livid elk
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even though I now understand this is a golden spearton situation where Zarek has attack and defend commands as separate abilities

over there it is more clear sine they’re opposites of eachother

pine wigeon
pine wigeon
cursive tinsel
cursive tinsel
left sapphire
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Now there are 2 more downvoters💀

pine wigeon
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(Total failure, Truly pathetic)

livid elk
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should have considered the balance

pine wigeon
pine wigeon
pine wigeon
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@cunning basalt here

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Altho its unfinished but

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Here's the sec version of this idea

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And ofc, we have picky ppl like fig and vic

cunning basalt
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Lol

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🐂

pine wigeon
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And maxim, for god idk why he making idea just to counter my idea

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Like, buddy...

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U ain't winning

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Ur just taking it personally

cunning basalt
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I read it rn

pine wigeon
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Ok

cunning basalt
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@pine wigeon I think it might be OP, and is there any weaknesses on this general?

livid elk
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considering it has more health than Archis and it used to cost less

i think none

pine wigeon
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Becuase how unfinished revamping this

pine wigeon
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After it flash, the crystal mana gone

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@cunning basalt

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@livid elk

livid elk
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those are weaknesses that don't really count

pine wigeon
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Dude, its heavy unit. Egiant can harass this unit

livid elk
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Egiant doesn't deal bonus damage

pine wigeon
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And there's no escape skill

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Enoch doesn't have escape skill so glacial effect does crippled his performance

livid elk
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glacial is kinda every unit's weakness

cunning basalt
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Tbh if it can pair tank unit like spear or jugg

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It could still have chance to escape

pine wigeon
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Pairing with rynn-shi is basically taxing urself lmao

livid elk
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that's more on rynn-shi than enoch

pine wigeon
livid elk
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pretty sure any other general works as well

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Enoch's traps stun enemies for a long time

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any general or unit that's good at dealing damage works well with that

pine wigeon
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This is why i said enoch revamp still unfinished

livid elk
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so a new version of this unit where you hope it's less hated

pine wigeon
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Altho i make him way too weak on his base stat

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Like 150hp

livid elk
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300 used to be the minimum until Kytchu got nerfed to 250
now you making it the same health as a magikill

pine wigeon
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Also deprived

livid elk
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well i called it OP without noticing Tremor

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it was the pure stats and its cost

pine wigeon
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The aoe were pretty big

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For the cost of 650 gold and 250 mana

livid elk
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just abilities and passives with many many effects

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did you know gold and crystal costs have some kinda meaning?

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Gold is for health and damage
Crystal is for magic and effects

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Spearos and Wrathnar cost 300 crystal due to their respective elemental powers

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for the spellcaster units Magis and Marrowkai the gold cost is identical to their health
then the crystal cost is 400 because they're pure spellcasters

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Thera has less gold than healt because she doesn't have an attack

pine wigeon
livid elk
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the smoke has many effects

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essentially a spellcaster but without damage i guess

pine wigeon
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Purple & Cyan doesn't deal any dmg either

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Purely for aoe

cunning basalt
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Personally I like those abilities. However, the stats are way high.
You should let the trap upgrades be on max upgrade instead of lvl 1. One of the abilities shall be configured on first upgrade like armory or forge whatever

pine wigeon
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Unlike "ong op crap"

livid elk
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however Enoch here costs 100 crystal despite the many debuffs and the traps being literal crystals

cunning basalt
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My rate would be 5.5/10

pine wigeon
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Also max upgrade?

cunning basalt
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Keep reaping and reading lol

cunning basalt
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Like this

pine wigeon
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Sure thing

livid elk
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unable to get them all i see

pine wigeon
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Since

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Max upg = Stronger benefit

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Like how vamp can cure at T2

livid elk
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the traps have their extra effects at the level 1 of these upgrades

livid elk
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do you... not read your own posts??

pine wigeon
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Oh, right

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Yeah i will consider that too

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Jesus the lag

livid elk
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since Enoch has more magic than Archis

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i think 250 crystal cost alongside 550 gold should be a decent base

cunning basalt
pine wigeon
livid elk
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i think it has something to do with "more abilities and passives"

pine wigeon
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Ok now i'm facing dillema

livid elk
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the passives have passives

pine wigeon
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If the reload have to be one with dodge or passively reload

pine wigeon
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Since i made this early version of enoch where perfect dodge instantly full reload the revolver

livid elk
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how would perfect dodge even be counted?

pine wigeon
livid elk
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so in mechanics
the dodge leaves behind a separate hitbox which is delayed from the real hitbox
if the delayed hitbox is hit then the full reload happens

pine wigeon
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When hazard hitbox hit the unit hitbox

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But dodge button were pressed

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It counted perfect dodge

livid elk
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then regular dodge is just normal reload 3

pine wigeon
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Yea that's how early ver enoch works

livid elk
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Archis has two dodge abilities technically

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tether is also tied to a roll

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Enoch can just have that but it's a reload instead of tether

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basically unchanged

left sapphire
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One more downvoter

pine wigeon
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❤️: 185hp
⚔️: 15(+10H if he using revolver)
🗡️: 1.35s / 1s w revolver
🏹: Toxic dead range
👢: Archer mov speed
🏷️: Heavy, General, Ranged, Order
🪙: 600 gold, 250 mana
⌛: 50 sec train time
👤: 9 pop

Passive
# Duality

This general can be paired with other general that have singleton or lone wolf, - However unable to have more than 2 general

-> If lazarus in the deck, This general unlock 'assist defense' ability

# Assist defense

(auto cast despite passive ability, 30s cooldown)
Whenever lazarus get stunned, spend 2 revolver ammo dealing 20 dmg with 15% atk debuff & 15% dmg reduction debuff to the attacker

Active
# Evade & Locke (cd: 25s)
Dodge and Reloading 3 ammo on revolver
[Perfect dodge]: Instantly refill 6 ammo on revolver

# Binding light mana crystal (cd: 15, costed 150 gold to build single trap)

  • Create trap to selected area, Inflict 3 tremor
    Crystal trap: Stun 4 unit for 3 seconds, while deal 0 damage (limit: 2)

Trap will getting upgrade depend on upgrade path:
Barrack 2 - Increase trap amount from 2 > 4
Forge 2 - Trap inflict 2 enflamed, dealing 10 dmg
Armory 2 - After trap trigger, granting enoch 15% move speed bonus for 3 second (unstackable)
Temple 2 - Trap will break after twice usage, Generate 4 tremor on stunned unit

pine wigeon
pine wigeon
# pine wigeon ❤️: 185hp ⚔️: 15(+10H if he using revolver) 🗡️: 1.35s / 1s w revolver 🏹: Toxic...

Enflamed formula =

  • When unit with enflamed stack died, Creating aoe explosion, damaging surrounding unit
  • Other unit with enflamed stack will explode at the same time within close range (magikill mana burst radius)
  • Base aoe dmg: 12
    Every 2 stack = +3 aoe dmg
  • max stack: 10

Tremor formula =

  • 4+ tremor count: Light stun
  • 8+ tremor count: Middle stun/Unit slide
  • 12+ tremor count: Heavy stun/Ragdoll
    [!] At 9+ tremor: Allow stun riprider and giants
    Max stacks: 15

Deprived formula updated =

  • Each stack reduce 20 gold from opponent
  • if unit were light, the effects increased to 60 gold
  • if unit were giant, the effects increased to 350 gold
  • if the unit were magic, swap from 60 gold to 60 mana
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@cunning basalt @livid elk done revamping enoch's kit

left sapphire
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Seems like riprider and giants will blow up with stunat_my_limit

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What is tremor burst?
Does it removes whole tremor at once?

pine wigeon
livid elk
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you seen to have removed Precision scope and Automatic Contraption

the 650 gold is now too much regarding the low stats
a flat 600g or even 550g might suffice