New Unit: the Paraseur (with format help from Nokolo!)

[gaunt quail]

Addition of their General will be made later

I can add lore soon,
Gotta type it up and make it more clear

Oh forgot to mention also

They can guard with their shield for 15% damage resistance; and they fight like standard units, not Ripriders, and lack splash damage

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@chilly rover look at this

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Scp ahhhh lizard

Me like

[gaunt quail]

Hehe

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It have 2 uses?

Ok ngl that cost is abit overkill

What the fuck

Skewer 60 dmg on L

ITS NOT EVEN GENERAL UNIT

[gaunt quail]

Nokolo suggested the idea; she also helped with the format and stats

Soooo—

[leaden mortar]

By "not affected" by Voltaic Armor and Spark, does that mean they just won't take bonus damage from it and won't obtain the status effect?

[chilly rover]

I'mma be honest, I doubt that this can work

[gaunt quail]

They don’t get the benefits

[leaden mortar]

Oh

[gaunt quail]

But are affected by it if the enemy hits them with it

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Its ass.

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Its overkill with Ability that does 60(+40 L)

[gaunt quail]

I mean originally I had them have a training time of 50 seconds and a unit pop of 12

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Is it aoe? @gaunt quail

[gaunt quail]

No.

ONLY single target

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Oh thank god

[gaunt quail]

Nothing they do has splash damage

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But that's abit overkill for just 1 single target

If i were really honest

[gaunt quail]

It’s mainly supposed to help so they don’t just die to light swarms when they’re meant to counter light units and swarms

[chilly rover]

It's essentially a general as an unit

I don't mean in the same way as giants or magikill where they're just really powerful units, this unit seem to focus heavily on UC

[leaden mortar]

Strafe and shoot like a faster archidon

[humble bloom]

I don't mind uc base unit, but its overdone imo

[chilly rover]

Also switching between melee and ranged is inherently broken

[chilly rover]

Yeah

[gaunt quail]

I mean again; Nokolo added the skewer; if it’s that game breaking balance wise I’m fine ditching it

I didn’t come up with the idea

[chilly rover]

An unit benefitting well from UC is good, but outright relying on it is a bad thing

[gaunt quail]

Fair enough

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Nokolo have bad sense at making fan idea lmao

Ur art is good

[gaunt quail]

O-

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But the ability nokolo suggest doesn't

[gaunt quail]

I mean regardless she still helped a lot with the stats and whatnot

I made basically everything besides the Skewer

[leaden mortar]

Would be better if it came from an upgrade card rather than just upgrading forge imo

[humble bloom]

Its still overkill, especially for normal unit that can switch mode

[gaunt quail]

..I mean good point actually

[chilly rover]

Also as a Frontline unit, this is too weak, even if it's only intended as a DPS unit but the ability is too strong

[gaunt quail]

It’s not really meant to be frontline really

[humble bloom]

Then why it cost so fat like egiant then?

[gaunt quail]

The charge is meant to let them get to the backline and mess it up

[chilly rover]

An unit being expensive but having stats that are accordingly powerful is already enough to make an unit hella strong with UC, just look at magikill, giants and shadows

[gaunt quail]

Because has also meant to be a really strong unit outright and I wanted it to try and be balanced

[leaden mortar]

What cooldown does skewer have

[chilly rover]

Then they're a Frontline unit but in the same way as ripps

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Oh no the fling mechanic, The sicklebear ram. Do u have idea what ur making at some point?

[gaunt quail]

It doesn’t fling

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Just askin

[chilly rover]

Expensive ≠ Frontline, that should be obvious :|

[gaunt quail]

Their charge doesn’t fling, it’s just damage

[humble bloom]

Frontline can be mean anything stoopid

It can be tank melee

Or its dps melee

Or high speed tank

[chilly rover]

Frontline is something that stays on the Frontline.

[gaunt quail]

…I mean like guys im not even saying this is the final model cus I’m still working on it; any other altercations or changes im more then open to hear

[leaden mortar]

Im assuming it's just like a Juggerknight charge

[gaunt quail]

Yeah it’s just damage and low stun

No flinging or knockback

[chilly rover]

With this sentence, you're implying that expensive units HAVE TO be a Frontline unit, which is outright false because magikill exist

[leaden mortar]

It would be cool if charge could be paired with skewer, allowing you to charge through crowds of light units and timing the skewer to hit a valuable unit amongst the crowd

Would be very satisfying

[chilly rover]

Tbh I think the idea of it is already doomed to fail

[leaden mortar]

But yeah I think this would fit as a general more since it's very UC focused

[gaunt quail]

Like this is meant to be my own special thing I wanna have because I like cavalry units but wanted to make someone other then Ripriders due to them being
Y’know

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Idk its strange that it have switch mechanic despite not general unit.

Look i'm okay if it have complex or uc-based but the moment i see skewer ability does 100 dmg to light is kinda turn down my hopes off

[chilly rover]

So it kinda needs a major rework, by which point it's not really the same unit anymore

[humble bloom]

Since when i said expensive unit have to be at front?

Look egiant

Its not even frontline unit

[gaunt quail]

I mean really the only core identity it’s meant to have is being that it’s meant to be an expensive investment for a unit that is quite good and can be a solo army with assistance, with minimal other unit support
That’s like

It’s meant to be their only idea

[chilly rover]

"it's not meant to be Frontline"
"Then why is expensive like a giant?"

[gaunt quail]

Again

Im more then happy to hear any actual criticisms and changes from you guys rather then “that’s kinda bad and doesn’t work”

Or are Rynn and Fan gonna focus on arguing with each other

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• Tank melee
• DPS Melee
• High speed tank

[gaunt quail]

Look if you guys don’t have any other input about the concept besides “it’s bad and doesn’t work” I’ll just delete the post and continue working on it on my own

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@gaunt quail

[gaunt quail]

The switch mechanic there was cuz I wanted to give them something unique and let them not get cheesed by eclipsors considering the investment

[chilly rover]

That's still a bad idea tho

Units need a designated role, being expensive but strong enough to only require minimal support isn't a designated role, that's just a steamroll

[gaunt quail]

And AGAIN

I am fine with DITCHING the skewer

[chilly rover]

What role does the game not have rn?

An actual initiator tank

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TL:DR
Go rework this with an actual changes

[gaunt quail]

Can you like

Fucking say any
Maybe

Instead of just
“This bad don’t do this”

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Traper:

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Can I get

[leaden mortar]

Do ripriders not fulfill that already?

[gaunt quail]

ANY

[chilly rover]

It could be a ripprider variant in the same way that juggs and spears are the same role

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Which i'm working on

[gaunt quail]

Actually input

[chilly rover]

Ripps are a speedy meatshield