#Giant nerf
rocky nymph
The only way you can prevent it is attacking before opp create more, or just doing the same. It’s not even hard
rocky nymph
Also adding xiphos is useful in earlier attacking can damage it more
weary quiver
@tepid citrus
honestly i think giants should get a buff which is immunity to tether
fair pike
Stfu
karmic kiln
Giants should grow the longer they alive
trail niche
yall ragebaiting
millions of ways to counter giants
i dont wanna hear "giant op" argument
trail niche
honestly i think giants should get a buff which is immunity to tether
no
even if they get tethered' it aint affecting them much'
broken flume
i dont wanna hear "giant op" argument
Giant op fr
lofty stag
How to counter them 😭🙏🥀
broken flume
How to counter them 😭🙏🥀
Multiple ways, the best is pressuring them
weary quiver
even if they get tethered' it aint affecting them much'
it kind of does
let's say your army is melee
you are attacking the statue and they have giantlord sightless covering statue hitbox
you tether giantlord away and the statue crumbles
here's another scenario
you are trying to hold tower but they have too many giants
you can tether one away from the action by going behind them
or if it's in sudden death
broken flume
you tether giantlord away and the statue crumbles
🔥 🔥 🔥
weary quiver
you tether an egiant away to prevent it from statue sniping
there are many ways tether can mess up giants
weary quiver
How to counter them 😭🙏🥀
tether, xiphos, early pressure, deads
lofty stag
tether, xiphos, early pressure, deads
So just spam deads
broken flume
You pull a giant away to pick it off without the rest of the army being right there or pull it out of mid-game tank lines so it fcking dies finally and doesn't get an extra 300 damage off with 300 HP remaining
lofty stag
Then how
lofty stag
early pressure
So just attack early
broken flume
The hardest part about fighting cgiants is everything else in the opponent's deck letting them get 4 cgiants
weary quiver
dont just sit at base for ten minutes
in fact giants are one of the weaker units rn
they got buffed a while back because nobody used them
broken flume
Tbh right now, giants are kinda strong, they're the only unit that can deal damage to giantlord without being turned into a jam in 3 seconds
Vault helps them massively too
Also I recently learned that you don't really need to focus on getting vault to get vault running, as long as you're not running something that's hella expensive to set up, you'll be able to get vault running while still playing normally
trail niche
tether, xiphos, early pressure, deads
Fr so many ways
and ppl just sit and cry that giants are op, without doing any experimenting with their decks
the things that makes giants op is more op than the giants themselves
sightless and vault
trail niche
you tether an egiant away to prevent it from statue sniping
Even then, tether should works on everything
making one unit able to completely counter the other is not good
oak seal
AI abuse??? UC a melee unit can bring a group of giants to the opposite side which is kinda broken ngl
tepid citrus
AI abuse??? UC a melee unit can bring a group of giants to the opposite side whi...
Yeah.
Rn it's probably too good vs giant.
weary quiver
AI abuse??? UC a melee unit can bring a group of giants to the opposite side whi...
yeah
there's also archis tether which completely messes up the positioning
oak seal
also with wall (which is already broken) or even snow squall also makes giants so slow/stalls them, so you can basically kill them with enough dps + the AI abusing
light scaffold
The problem is the vault of prudence
You need xiphos in your deck, calling like this name for your deck: Anti-giant
Use this deck, i'm not using this deck for much weeks 👉
While in a match, You distract some giants, probably following with a Juggerknight in case of problems with archidons with glacial fletching or speartons
Or change xiphos to wrathnar
I'm just helping you so you're not too upset
tepid citrus
Juggcher goes pretty neutral into giant though.
light scaffold
Juggcher goes pretty neutral into giant though.
Yes, like neutral
But we know that many decks are still difficult, but with what I have, Juggcher has about a 60% chance of winning against a Giant spam deck.
tepid citrus
But we know that many decks are still difficult, but with what I have, Juggcher ...
If you count the really strong giant decks in 1v1 classic juggcher might actually go a bit negative even.
If you want giant players to ragequit or counterdeck back in 1v1 classic you use something like this.
Only winnable for giant decks if they defend without even queuing giant and possibly use sicklebear or even double general.
light scaffold
The problem is that the bug with enslaved miners, by mining almost at a distance, can make them fast with the rage spell.
Mining gold
tepid citrus
The problem is that the bug with enslaved miners, by mining almost at a distance...
UC mining is intended.
weary quiver
The problem is that the bug with enslaved miners, by mining almost at a distance...
what?
if you're referring to uc mining then it's intentional
removing it would just lower the skill ceiling further
weary quiver
If you want giant players to ragequit or counterdeck back in 1v1 classic you use...
yeah that's pretty much the giant counter
light scaffold
What I mean is that's what they use in the games and the campaign, but I don't do it that way myself, but it's very effective against enslaved miners with the rage spell.
light scaffold
If you want giant players to ragequit or counterdeck back in 1v1 classic you use...
Archis is only used for deathmatch
It has to be a less expensive deck.
those that have a low cost of gold and crystal
except that one general has to be in a deck and the rest, which are less expensive, have to be in the deck.
tepid citrus
yeah that's pretty much the giant counter
There has been only a single time I see someone with a giant deck defend against that and it's splix running spearcher meric defense all the way to midgame against someone who isn't even that good at that deck.
tepid citrus
Archis is only used for deathmatch
No offense, your elo?
tepid citrus
removing it would just lower the skill ceiling further
It also conflict with CJ's vision of faster game pace overall.
weary quiver
There has been only a single time I see someone with a giant deck defend against...
would splix be able to beat bastion rush while down two slots
tepid citrus
would splix be able to beat bastion rush while down two slots
Assuming someone who's top rank with bastion rush, probably not.
weary quiver
what about like some 2100
tepid citrus
Against them you absolutely need to counterdeck back with sicklebear + army defense or something.
light scaffold
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tepid citrus
what about like some 2100
Possible.
light scaffold
Actually, it used to be at Elo 1599.
But one of my teammates left the game after encountering some archerspammers in 2v2.
But I just kept playing and archerspam keep appearing.
I only dropped to that Elo and had to resume my 1v1 revenge, getting revenge on Giantlord Sightless deck.
tepid citrus
1900 1v1
Somehow with that "archis is mostly deathmatch" still doesn't make sense.
I don't even remember a single time I saw archis in 2v2 DM.
weary quiver
Somehow with that "archis is mostly deathmatch" still doesn't make sense.
yeah
i'm not a dm player but archis is very popular in standard
bastion rush, shadowrip, archis and friends, there;s even archis spearcher
or juggcher
i forgot
anyways the point is that archis is a really popular choice as an anti air and a good backline snipe as well
also a good giant counter
tepid citrus
or juggcher
Archis spearcher was more common back when kytchu nerf was fresh but now I think archis juggcher is less rare.
tepid citrus
zbovin popularized archis juggcher for a short time
Him playing archis juggcher is not that different from me playing giantcher meric: most ppl aren't good enough at it to handle playing it in top rank.
weary quiver
Him playing archis juggcher is not that different from me playing giantcher meri...
btw
what's even the spearcher giant counter
meric spam?
tepid citrus
meric spam?
Units to units that could be the counter yeah.
Though ranged + meric spam would do worse.
weary quiver
Units to units that could be the counter yeah.
i think if you threw in sicklebear into no spear giantcher you would beat archis and friends as well as bastion rush
unless you're committed to playing no general
tepid citrus
i think if you threw in sicklebear into no spear giantcher you would beat archis...
It won't beat archis + xiphos variant. For that you do need spear.
tepid citrus
unless you're committed to playing no general
I mean, no general is fully obsolete now because GLS.
tepid citrus
we're assuming no gls in these discussions right
In that case you either go no general for the glory or just do something really optimal in which case spear + sicklebear is better than no spear.
weary quiver
tbh
spearcher giant with meric and sicklebear seems pretty close to the perfect deck
tepid citrus
spearcher giant with meric and sicklebear seems pretty close to the perfect deck
Before GLS it's probably good but rn not so much.
past brook
This post is ass
weary quiver
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burnt sorrel
The giant has fucked this game
burnt sorrel
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They thank you for your money
burnt sorrel
um
Imagine paying money to win a game of stick war 😂 only to realise they will eventually nerf it and your money was wasted
weary quiver
Imagine paying money to win a game of stick war 😂 only to realise they will eve...
oh
my money won't be wasted
i know it will be nerfed
i don't even have money anyways lol
besides
i can get 2500 without buying generals so why should i
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lethal pike
Mause already summarized this post
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safe fog
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lofty stag
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