High cost like 1000 crystals maybe?
#Spell: Black Hole
pine pond
pine pond
so basicaly : fuck u, i win
Not really, it'll force people to user control more and attack earlier
If you're camping too much someone can just obliterate your army for example
pine pond
its an ONE SHOT
It won't kill all troops, most likely used for the tanks
Say that someone has 5 giants for example
If someone black holes everything then the player with lighter units can recover much faster for example
This spell would favour using generals more often too
@gleaming temple @sage wedge
pine pond
what the aoe?
Maybe kill your own troops too?
To make it more balanced
Or have a permanent poison so you have a limited time to inflict damage on the rest of the enemy army
gleaming temple
I'm sorry but like, people have to worry about building a full army now??
gritty fiber
it's not only people who build an entire army, now it's a counter to everything
it literally one shots the statue
and yeah it deletes the entire enemy army so that they have nothing left to fight with
also
i don't really understand the preventing people from building an entire army part
isn't the goal of the game supposed to be training units
even though you're constantly fighting you should still try to build up your population
pine pond
it literally one shots the statue
Only affects troops
gritty fiber
but still
it wipes out their entire army
i mean yeah ig the concept isn't too bad
but after balancing it would kind of just be uncurable acid rain
solar bear
Trash idea
Wtf is this shit
Like literally just stall for 1000 crystal and nuke enemy army
Then win
Wtf is this
Never let bro crook again
pine pond
and yeah it deletes the entire enemy army so that they have nothing left to figh...
Only deletes their entire army if it's 1 unit
Hence why I said in a specific area
solar bear
Hence why I said in a specific area
Specific area so what?
north rain
"Interesting counter against people who spam an entire army"
Tf you mean "spam an entire army?" Do you mean just making an army in general? Since this legit kills EVERYTHING. This is not just an anti-spam card, this is an anti-everything card.
pine pond
Specific area so what?
Say that you have speartons and archers, you can wipe out the speartons
solar bear
Say that you have speartons and archers, you can wipe out the speartons
AI abuse:
U fucking idiot
Just AI abuse the damn army to one spot
north rain
U fucking idiot
Swearing doesn't make you cool 🥀
solar bear
Swearing doesn't make you cool 🥀
Having ADHD and showing it online doesn't make u cool
pine pond
"Interesting counter against people who spam an entire army"
Tf you mean "spam a...
I.e. 5 giants
You just nuke them
and if your army is more spread out you wont suffer as many losses
north rain
Having ADHD and showing it online doesn't make u cool
I don't have ADHD.
gritty fiber
You just nuke them
wouldn't that be a little too much though
pine pond
wouldn't that be a little too much though
If your enemy has that, then you can just 1v1 with units as they're created
gleaming temple
@pine pond Seriously tho. Part of the game strategy is to disrupt your opponents eco
pine pond
the idea is that it promotes 1v1 with uc
gleaming temple
Don't let them build an army stronger than you
north rain
and if your army is more spread out you wont suffer as many losses
So... any melee army just gets deleted as soon as they move into a clump? (Which they do when fighting)
pine pond
Essentially punishes bigger armies
gleaming temple
Essentially punishes bigger armies
Nonono
gritty fiber
If your enemy has that, then you can just 1v1 with units as they're created
yeah but people's army naturally grows even if they are fighting the entire game
gleaming temple
You attack them before they build a bigger army
Or sometimes you are the one trying to build a big army
pine pond
Idk I just thought it'd be fun to have if not a spell then a mode where you 1v1 with less troops
just user controlled
gleaming temple
Idk I just thought it'd be fun to have if not a spell then a mode where you 1v1 ...
Then your fan idea should involve half resource half pop or something
gritty fiber
Idk I just thought it'd be fun to have if not a spell then a mode where you 1v1 ...
oh do you mean like less max population
pine pond
oh do you mean like less max population
yup, hence the nuke troops idea
gleaming temple
You cannot just have a get out of jail card
gritty fiber
yup, hence the nuke troops idea
but then there are better ways to implement that
i think a mini mode to practice archidon or some other unit user control would be nice
gleaming temple
like a mode with 20 max population or smt
Sure, you can make that gamemode into a fan idea thread
gritty fiber
but not a spell that can be used in either gamemode that just makes the enemy lose 80% of their units
pine pond
btw
gleaming temple
But you cannot interfere with the current classic format
gleaming temple
which prevents you from retreating for 5s
Snow squall
gritty fiber
snow squall
pine pond
Snow squall
ah yh that would be too similar
gritty fiber
a well placed snow squall kind of does that already lol
gleaming temple
I meant literally just disabling the retreat button
No
pine pond
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solar bear
the idea is that it promotes 1v1 with uc
This is a SHIT IDEA
👎 
Just cast it anywhere on the DPS line and win
Wtf even Abt promoting UC 1v1
Like that is not how u play SWS
pine pond
Like that is not how u play SWS
Ik, hence the idea to change game strats a bit
solar bear
Ik, hence the idea to change game strats a bit
Tf u mean change game strat
U're literally at ur opponent mercy
Like wtf is ur logic
People focus on the concept too much and ignore the game balance
pine pond
U're literally at ur opponent mercy
You could have a delay where it kills your troops 5s after or smt
Overall I agree w you guys tho, probably a separate more in itself
static cargo
and yeah it deletes the entire enemy army so that they have nothing left to figh...
In vault mirrors if I so much as has a 30 pop advantage over my opponent I'd be rolling that advantage straight to their statue. Arbitrary 8000 dmg nuke is basically an instawin by snowballing massive pop advantage, and vault shadowripp already has an win condition that allows them to never have to leave main army off their base.
Once per match won't matter in the slightest cuz you'll win immediately after.
static cargo
the idea is that it promotes 1v1 with uc
It will promote vault shadowripp atreyos because the spell counter literally any army that has to get out of their base to win aka almost all of them. And then vault shadowripp can camp base and statue chip + AI distract with ripps + atreyos and the moment they see opponent with full army push, bam nuke their whole army and win immediately.
It sounds like you want a win button vs archerspam imo. It is meric + brilliance + mana burst.
pine pond
It sounds like you want a win button vs archerspam imo. It is meric + brilliance...
Not rly
It was just an idea of how to spice the game up
static cargo
It was just an idea of how to spice the game up
If CJ actually implement that the game would be more unplayable than back in prime ripp distract meta.
The spell can enforce a "camp base + statue chip or die" meta all by itself.
astral dew
It was just an idea of how to spice the game up
By making a straight up insta-win button?
This isn't spicing up jacksht, it's just making the game straight up unplayable for anyone that decides to not use this
Like this sht one shots EVERYTHING
static cargo
This isn't spicing up jacksht, it's just making the game straight up unplayable ...
It spices up things by making players quit en masse until the spell gets hit with the bewitch treatment.
solar bear
Like this sht one shots EVERYTHING
uhm actually it cant one shot everything bc by mean everything which inclucdes the unit under fotf effect so ure wrong 🤓☝️
astral dew
uhm actually it cant one shot everything bc by mean everything which inclucdes t...
They still get one-shot, thera just heals them from 0 HP back to full or 95
solar bear
They still get one-shot, thera just heals them from 0 HP back to full or 95
The invincible effect
Unit after fotf is invincible for 2s
astral dew
That's after the dying and rehealing from 0 HP tho
Also this would probably bypass that too tbh
Since it's a black hole
solar bear
That's after the dying and rehealing from 0 HP tho
What if a unit die just a second before the spell casted
solar bear
Also this would probably bypass that too tbh
He didn't mention anything Abt it bypassing fotf
Therefore thera upscale
She's now planetary level
Btw this calculator app is cool af
astral dew
https://tenor.com/view/bad-apple-manu-touhou-gif-21182229
Is that the entire bad apple animation
solar bear
Is that the entire bad apple animation
Yes
astral dew
Btw this calculator app is cool af
Peak
solar bear
Peak
Calculus
It's actually easier than mid term
For some reason
The fucking sin cos tan is way more horrendous
astral dew
Very on-topic