Add Stone Giant to Stack war: Saga

[jagged steeple]

What is that health

[sage helm]

Health taken from the final boss Stick War

[jagged steeple]

Very unbalanced

[sage helm]

It might be changed (I'm still working on the concept)

Balance Changes:
HP: 2397 - HP: 1750

[sage helm]

Admit it, bro, you put "No" to my concept because I called you sunshine 🙂

But seriously, I will work on perfecting the concept.

[jagged steeple]

No its too strong

[sage helm]

another HP nerf?

Balance Changes:
HP: 1750 - HP: 1350

[warm lark]

Dam why 15 population?

Make it 8 population and since it's dead definitely less hp then the normal giants.

[sage helm]

OK

balance changes:
Hp: 1350 - Hp: 850
Population: 15 - Population: 8

[jagged steeple]

It has 15 pop because it's a general

[warm lark]

That's not the message he's sending

[warm lark]

Is this a general or unit?

[jagged steeple]

It has the general tag

[sage helm]

general.....

[warm lark]

My bad

[warm lark]

Then forget about this

[sage helm]

I'm an idiot

[warm lark]

But dam 15?

I mean this will still die to archer spam anyway

[sage helm]

he will still have abilities

[warm lark]

(spawns dead speartons at enemies back lines...)

[sage helm]

but in general he will have the ability... of a stone barricade

[warm lark]

Honestly... Anything to hit archer spam

[sage helm]

I think you're looking forward to it

[warm lark]

If this gets added and it at least does some crowd control against archer spam I'm buying it!!!

[sage helm]

Maybe

maybe....

[warm lark]

Still is in my fav suggestions watching it o.o

[sage helm]

oh......

thank you...?

[warm lark]

So mysterious

[sage helm]

balance changes:
Hp: 850 - Hp: 1350
Population: 8 - Population: 15
New Passive Ability:
Stone Giant has a chance to block.

New ability (temporary, meaning it may be completely changed or removed)
Stone Barricade:
Allows Economic units to build a Stone Barricade, which has 300 HP.

[warm lark]

Economic units? Isn't that just wall?

Are you with archer spam or against them

[sage helm]

New ability:
Summon (50-second cooldown):
The Stone Giant summons Large Zombie Speartons from underground (they usually spawn near units behind them, EXAMPLE: Archer)
Trivia:
Large Zombie Speartons always attack
Large Zombie Speartons stun units when they emerge from underground

[sage helm]

@warm lark I have a proposal for you

If you like this concept, you can add something of your own

Just not the ability that kills giants with one hit.

plz

[warm lark]

Aight

[warm lark]

Tell me

[warm lark]

What I'll never do that

[sage helm]

fair

I've almost finished the concept.

[jagged steeple]

[sage helm]

archery spam

[hybrid pumice]

eh…

[jagged steeple]

This is geniunely just busted

[hybrid pumice]

depending on the laziness level of the devs they could still be light units with only 700hp and 15atk

[sage helm]

Thank you?

[hybrid pumice]

Overpowered

[jagged steeple]

Not a compliment

[sage helm]

that's why I put a question mark...

[hybrid pumice]

stack war might have completely different balancing than stick war

[jagged steeple]

Did I answer it wrong?

[brazen portal]

I really liked the post

It will obviously need some balance

But we really don't need this general right now

[sage helm]

Update:
Added ability cooldown

[visual crow]

THE HEALTH

https://tenor.com/view/omg-stan-twt-stan-stan-twitter-emoji-gif-12650471232454569244

[sage helm]

How much HP does a regular Giant have?

1100

[devout thicket]

Totally not because boss characters are jank

[sage helm]

it was a joke

this is first of all

and secondly

[sage helm]

I didn't quite understand your take

Like, according to the lore, this is a boss from Stick War?

[jagged steeple]

Pretty much

It has a sht ton of health in legacy and is usually used sparingly

It's basically a boss on its own

Same as with griffon, Kai rider, and etc

[sage helm]

If you want, I can change the lore.

[jagged steeple]

What

[sage helm]

I just don't understand your take

[jagged steeple]

Uhh sure but why would you need to do that if it's based off of a unit from an existing game with it's own lore

[sage helm]

wait....

[jagged steeple]

He didn't call it a boss because of lore reasons, but because gameplay-wise it's literally a boss from legacy

[sage helm]

I think I'm starting to understand

but there is a problem

it can't be fixed

[devout thicket]

It's a boss character, if you optimize it for SW3, then it's just chaos giant in a different colour

If you don't optimize it, it's just an overpowered unit

It also does not fill a unique niche

[jagged steeple]

Just keep it as a boss and not make it a playable unit

[devout thicket]

Exactly

[sage helm]

Fine

But....

Rider Kai is also the boss?

won't it be playable?

[devout thicket]

as you can see, it has been optimized beyond swl

[sage helm]

optimized....

Okey

I'm wondering how to optimize the boss.

and turn him into a general

[devout thicket]

But if you do that, it's a better Kai rider

There is no reason to use Kai rider

[sage helm]

Okay, I'll ask one last question...how to solve the problem with the stone giant?

[devout thicket]

You can't.

[sage helm]

good

[devout thicket]

It already has the same niche as Kai rider, it's also performs the same role as a c.giant.

It's a redundant combination of other units

[sage helm]

Anyway, I'm deleting the post.

if possible

[devout thicket]

It's possible