#Vainman

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west creek
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So uhh It's been a while since I made ideas like these

Tags: Heavy, General, Order.
Stats:
πŸ”’(HIT FREQUENCY) 1 Hit Per Second
❀️(HP) 600
βš”οΈ(DAMAGE) 15 (+5 VS Light)
πŸͺ™(GOLD COST) 700
πŸ’Ž(CRYSTAL COST) 250
πŸ•’(TRAINING TIME) 50
πŸ‘₯(POPULATION) 9(limit of 1)
πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ(MOVEMENT SPEED) Slow (Spearton/Juggerknight level)

Abilities:

Gut Shredder: You know those 2 blades on Vainman's spear? Well after he stabs an opponent, he twists the spear, making those 2 blades shred your insides. It deals 36 damage with a bleed status effect of 2 that lasts for 5 seconds on any opponent you wish (AOE deals 70% less damage to non-human units, and cannot use while Blood of Man is active.)

(bleed damage is something that deals low, but fast paced damage, and what I mean by fast paced is that you get damaged every 0.5 seconds with bleed damage, yeah, basically a new status effect.)

(30 second cooldown)

Licensed Mentoring: Vainman is a teacher according to the novel that CJ wrote as mentioned at the start, so basically Vainman makes Speartons deal +2 Base damage and +1 damage on the "VS Light" thing for 10 seconds, +4 Base damage and +1 damage on the "VS Light" thing if the Spearton is below 50% HP

(60 second cooldown) (Requires Barracks 2)

Blood of Man: Vainman gets adrenaline and forgets all beings stronger than man along with discarding strategic fighting, he goes an a rampage, doubling his base damage but removes his "VS Light" thing, and hit frequency increases to 1 hit per 0.8 seconds. The catch is he takes 50% more damage to non-human units and his damage to heavy units gets reduced to 10% since you can't hit someone armored without strategic fighting. (lasts for 20 seconds)

(40 second cooldown)

Lore: Whatever CJ reveals, because I feel uncomfortable making lore for an OC that isn't mine.

Also I'm sorry to traumatize all artists with my art, I did my best okay😭

whole hemlock
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ehh

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kinda expensive af for a dollar store stand in atreyos

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cool though

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needs buffs

west creek
whole hemlock
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blood of man introduces more problems than actually helping him

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37.5 dps only to get stopped by tanks and chaos units lol

west creek
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I was waiting for criticism

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should I?

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I mean like it does counter some spam decks for a while on the bright side

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swordspam and sicklewrath

whole hemlock
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gut shredder needs a buff
his crystal cost should be 250 crystal instead, just way too expensive

west creek
whole hemlock
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and blood of man needs either a rework or just reducing the disabilities

whole hemlock
whole hemlock
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sicklespam I can understand, but swords can basically stunlock him and are full on anti-heavy

west creek
whole hemlock
west creek
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so 250 crystal, add splash in blood of man, and buff Gut Shredder?

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correct?

whole hemlock
west creek
west creek
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but what about blood of man? You said it needs reduced side effects?

whole hemlock
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My rating before the balance changes:
balancing 7/10
effort 8/10
gimmick 8/10
overall 7.8/10
I like it

west creek
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Okay I'm done buffing blood of man

whole hemlock
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you mean buffing?

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anyways gud

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β€’uβ€’

west creek
whole hemlock
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lol

west creek
whole hemlock
west creek
torpid wraith
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metal pipe spear

west creek
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long, hard stick

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wait a minute...

solemn basin
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the spear buff is insane

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spears are already strong

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you tryna make them better?

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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they can defeat stuff like archers

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also

whole hemlock
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Stand In was arguably worse than just increasing their damage

solemn basin
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thats even worse

solemn basin
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not even close

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it deals 50 dmg

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also this is removing their one weakness

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now spears dont have low dps

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we may get spearspam meta

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which ill be honest aint that bad tbh

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but still

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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more than juggs

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juggs are useless

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and pike

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29 dmg spears

whole hemlock
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spears have 15 damage?

solemn basin
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actually more than 29

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32 dmg spears v light

whole hemlock
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yeah, thought so

solemn basin
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no one wants that

whole hemlock
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it's more like 22 damage

solemn basin
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without ehhh

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but still

whole hemlock
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you also have to get this man lol

solemn basin
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32 damage spears in mid game is not good

solemn basin
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jus use atreyos spearspam

whole hemlock
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which costs a sht ton, probably gonna be mid game to late game

whole hemlock
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holy sht, atreyos vainman spearcher

solemn basin
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and boom

solemn basin
whole hemlock
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yeah

solemn basin
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BRO

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t s is censored

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tf πŸ₯€

whole hemlock
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no fcking way

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ARAWN WHYY

solemn basin
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anyway

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back to topic

whole hemlock
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You need barracks 2 for the + damage btw

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and it has a CD and duration so basically it's just stand in but gives a couple more damage instead of turning every spearton into wally west

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ain't that OP now tbh

solemn basin
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but still

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adrenaline makes him prime piketreyos

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not that bad

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but u get my point

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jus uc a spear to block dmg

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besides a lot of units will ignore UC

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and u can HHW

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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gtfo

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proly worse tbh

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pike is forge 1 yk

whole hemlock
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Basically just prime CW piketreyos stand in but nerfed a lil

whole hemlock
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doesn't one shot armory 1 archidons atleast

solemn basin
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piketreyos did like 100 dmg tho

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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if u include forge

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and 47.5 gets rounded to 48

whole hemlock
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it is close though

solemn basin
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did u include forge?

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cuz pike needs forge

whole hemlock
solemn basin
whole hemlock
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new update I'm missing?
Iirc 5 rounds down

solemn basin
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no

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its always been like that

whole hemlock
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I've been lied to

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anyways it's 85 damage

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which is just ONE number short of killing an armory 1 archidon

solemn basin
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HOLY FCK

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nah

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armory 1 is 81

whole hemlock
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wat

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oh

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archidon hp is 70

solemn basin
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wait

whole hemlock
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I'm gonna kiss my shotgun

solemn basin
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how did u get 85 dmg?

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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oh dps

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i meant base dmg

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i got 74 base

whole hemlock
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ohh

solemn basin
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but still

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thats a lot

whole hemlock
whole hemlock
solemn basin
solemn basin
whole hemlock
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what'd you do?

solemn basin
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i did 1.2 by maxed forge

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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he also cant kill rune deads without f2

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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lol

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i mean with scorch he still 1 shots them

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this guy may be a better backline sniper than atreyos

whole hemlock
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3 slots for one general to one shot archidons hell nawh

solemn basin
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and archidons are common

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besides scorch can be a part of the deck

whole hemlock
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just use archis or spearos at that point, atleast they only need 1 slot to maximize their efficiency πŸ™

solemn basin
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actually spearos sorta needs 3

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when u rly think about it

whole hemlock
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CW Pike and Surge?

solemn basin
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no

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spearos, hhw surge

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archis needs CW

whole hemlock
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Rahh

solemn basin
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he doesnt rly need

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but works best

whole hemlock
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anyways deck for vainman (pretend atreyos is vainman)

solemn basin
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spearos NEEDS hhw tho

solemn basin
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maybe u could swap out surge for smithy ig

whole hemlock
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what

solemn basin
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i mean scorch

whole hemlock
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lmao 😭

solemn basin
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but what isnt?

whole hemlock
solemn basin
whole hemlock
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fair

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ima just say vault in general is just better than merichu

whole hemlock
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and more braindead infact lol

solemn basin
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i will preach till the end "kytchu must be destroyed"

whole hemlock
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just sitting at your statue defending literally everything and getting basically infinite gold

solemn basin
whole hemlock
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and then attacking with 19 giants

whole hemlock
solemn basin
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v a 2300

west creek
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Yallah what the heck happened while I was gone

novel quiver
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why the hell do people gotta keep trying to add spearton generals

west creek
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XD

novel quiver
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also who the hell makes their roblox username CHEEZBURGER_LEADER bruh

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there are bypassed usernames that are better than this

whole hemlock
whole hemlock
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especially since our 2 current ones aren't even speartons at this point

novel quiver
whole hemlock
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they're overpowered elemental gods

whole hemlock
novel quiver
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this guy ain't even an actual general either

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he's just a strong spearton

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he's not a general of the spearton army

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or any army

whole hemlock
west creek
west creek
novel quiver
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you're accusing me of being 12 on discord?

west creek
novel quiver
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how original

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with the dude using "ur, ngl, πŸ’€" and probably still uses the rhymes with grug meme

west creek
novel quiver
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and now he's repeating himself

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wow

west creek
west creek
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ofc

west creek