Dead Variants

[lime escarp]

Just like in Stick War: Legacy's Endless Nights game mode, there should be different types of Deads when killing and turning (via Rune of Reanimation) special units into zombies.

Lorewise, the reanimated will have special traits related to what they were before they died

For example,
Crawlers can become riser deads because they.. dig, I guess.

Shadowraths can can come back as the pouncing zombies from SW:L where they stun the first unit they jump onto.

Speartons can come back as Spearton Deads like in Sw:L where they have extra health.

Just like defeating an infected Giant, this lets Rune of Reanimation based decks be rewarded better for killing expensive units.

[brazen talon]

Is this what I think it is

Yep it is

Immediate

If you've seen similar ideas you should already know why this is bad

[lime escarp]

why💔

[brazen talon]

Deads are already strong on their own

These are broken

[lime escarp]

until they get kited

[brazen talon]

Also spear deads are just deads but tankier which is overlapping with each other's purpose

[lime escarp]

u don't see deads in stick god✌️💔

[brazen talon]

Pouncers are a nightmare

Even in swl

These guys ignore frontlines and go for backline

Riser deads are also just summon staff deads but better

[lime escarp]

well they are soft

[brazen talon]

Free backline interruption and messes up their formation

For free and no skill needed at all

[lime escarp]

ok at the crawlers part i lost creativity

[lime escarp]

not really

let's say the enemy has 7 archers and 2 spears

[brazen talon]

If this was a real ror buff then it would just dominate everyone below that rank

[lime escarp]

it takes a lot of deads

[brazen talon]

Or anyone who just doesn't have heals

[lime escarp]

just to kill the 2 spears

[brazen talon]

literally your only doom here

[brazen talon]

TDead spam

marrowkai

Also you have free dead meatshields to tank for the archers anyways

[lime escarp]

T deads get kited easily by the 2 other ranged units

[brazen talon]

Marrowkai

acid rain

[lime escarp]

fym marrowkai

[brazen talon]

Do people not bring marrowkai with deadspam

[lime escarp]

pretty sure every deck has healing

[lime escarp]

what's marrowkai gonna do against kiting when he himself is slow as shi

[brazen talon]

Reap

Hellfist

also wait wym kiting doesn't UC ignore exist

I'm still stuck in 2024 knowledge so yea im pretty cooked rn

[lime escarp]

he's too slow for that gng

[brazen talon]

haven't touched the game in a while

[brazen talon]

What

[lime escarp]

archers can just back off before he gets to reap range

[brazen talon]

What Abt the speartons

Those guys are cooked

[lime escarp]

well

duh✌️

they're meant to die😭

[brazen talon]

Also wait you said 7 archers

Why not just attack💔

TDeads are already tanky

If you have like an army 7 archers is not gonna do sht

Plus you've got meatshields to push through the kiting

Or use spells like snow squall

You should prolly wait till the big guys (fig, grand caster and etc) arrive they know more balancing than I do

[lime escarp]

if you both have the same economy

[brazen talon]

But the main reason this is heavily considered as a big no no is bc they're overlapping with eachother or just flat out broken

[brazen talon]

An example of broken are pouncer deads

If we took fresh from swl pouncer deads

[lime escarp]

gng

[brazen talon]

They would definetly dominate the arena

[lime escarp]

they'll be dead before they reach the backline if you have a good enough army

[brazen talon]

They're fast as fck, their AI ignores frontlines, and they stun

Plus you have rage

[lime escarp]

and that only happens if you kill a shadowrath

[brazen talon]

Wait what deck even uses Shadowrath other than spamming them

[lime escarp]

shadowrip

have you ever seen a dead deck win against sum like that

[brazen talon]

No bc I've never faced a shadowrip before

[lime escarp]

🏚️

[brazen talon]

Tho I know it's a good strat if the player is godly at the game

I've tried shadowrip and got humbled

[lime escarp]

well killing a rip and shadowrath is pretty difficult for deads cuz of how slow they are

[brazen talon]

Ye they're very fast plus rips make a mess

[lime escarp]

eh honestly idk

i'm pretty sure a bunch of people have requested for this

i kinda js want to bring deads up or sum

[digital lodge]

endless deads mini

[void wadi]

you dont realize how much damage 20 deads will do

anyway this is practically a repost cuz so many dead ideas

[obtuse oasis]

Yooo, fellow SWS not player but still balce reviewer whatsup!!!

[obtuse oasis]

Shadow ripp the rush version or the turtle version?

[late hedge]

Shadowripp is rush + turtle

[obtuse oasis]

Whoops I haven't played against in like forever I may have forgotten

Anyways I think dead spam clears shadowripp

Last I played

[late hedge]

Tbf it's really easy to mistake shadowripp for another mid-game deck

[late hedge]

Yeah no

Actually wait

Garrison heal literally doesn't work anymore

[obtuse oasis]

I mean in theory the wall of deads mininizes the effectiveness of fixate

And Tdeads are good against heavy units

[obtuse oasis]

Omg good bugfix

[late hedge]

In practice, deadspam doesn't have enough actual tanks so the deads get melted and ripps are only there for the shadows to get to the tdeads without having to tank a lot of damage

Once the shadows are there

The ripps are no longer needed

[obtuse oasis]

Fair and that's not even considering spells

[late hedge]

Shadowripp really only needs hw or HHW

Anything else is genuinely overkill

But with garrison straight up not healing rn

Deadspam could probably fck shadowripp