#[Bacton Campaign] - The Great Bridge (EX)
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"they took everything from me" lookin
that's what Wrathnar said
Sten narcissist confirmed?
Wrathnar is Zuko confirmed????
Xiphos is bald and he hates Xiphos so yeah
All Xiphos needs is dat arrow on his forehead
Now we have the fire lord and the roblox avatar
no he needs to have a fat cool uncle with him
his uncle needs to be obsessed with drinking tea
and be better than him
we also need the elementals lookin lion turtles who touch foreheads to give people super cool powers that may or may not accidentally start a nation and conquer the world and drill a big hole into a city wall!1!1
Sten is not Insten confirmed
Spearos is Iroh confirmed???
Lalitesh is off in the mountains learning spinjitzu 💔
Until then all I wanna do is work on a horror/trauma AU
Atreyos, get out of here boy. It is Xiphos I want.
Dead virus but it's taken seriously
S4me posted a sketch of Bacton finding Rex. Canonically, the crystals on the Riptor bring him great pain. In other words, he's spring locked inside his own body.
What in the name of V
W
Imagine laughing while you describe what it was like dying
S4me spooks
do u want me to fight the riptor?
it's deeper than that 
Wait, what??
What did you cook
btw is there a blight general
whos boon
he boons
i mean i think i heard the name boon before
but i didnt got full context
so boon is gonna remain mysterious?
He's even mysterious from me
damn
This sounds like an epic skin for a riptor
I would love a horror skin for once
i just realized theres a developer following this post
I'm thinking of giving Arawn the developer doc with all the major lore, etc.
All the little details aren't very important.
The developer doc also has all the campaign stages scripted.
S4me found the Sten assets.
It's over.

why
and how
They're the biggest Sten fangirl
oh shoot
-# ded chat
happens some times
That ain’t argegis that’s lowkey archis
argaegis
Argegis
argaygis
Huh
Archis
I think you might remember that I was going to name them Argaegis (Argent + Aegis), but I changed it to Argegis because I had a strong feeling people would associate it with 'gae' --> 'gay' 
Yez
I still remember that 💔
it's engraved into my frontal lobe
What about your Bactal lobe
Sten ASMR and Romance fan fiction
I'd pay WaterBug $20 AUD 🦅
But...
You only get 1 second every year

RAHHAHAHAE
AEGIS MENTIONED
AEGIS MENTIONED
"Uh... SFPD just routed every cop in the city to the bank."
"I try to negotiate with them"
"Oh? They're sending in an Aegis. It's cute."
they have a general named Aegion
The Argegis?
ye
ohh ok
ASMR: Hiking With Sten
5000 messages is crazy
This is probably the post with the most messages man
More than trumpet and deady combined I think
this is probably not even close..
Halfway through: POSITIONS! LETS SHOW THESE UP-
If Order decides to screw around and interrupt his hiking session
“Hold up is that what I think it is?”
“Sten this isn’t right stop the stream it’s order-“
“POSITIONS! LET’S SHOW THESE UPSTARTS-“
“4TH TIME YOU SAID IT MAN, SHUT IT!”
Are all the voice lines that memeable?
Kestral might end up in the same boat as Sten 😵💫
Yes
“Keep firing at the intruder!”
“I’m your boss you know”
is it wrong to say they all look the same?
??
I mean, stickmen lives matter, but goddang if they dont only come in two colors
I mean, Bacton is red.
i litteraly tought he was painting himself red
with blood
This made me chuckle
You'd have to give the man a round of applause for the amount of effort he'd put into painting himself in blood daily.
blood sticks to skin longer when its dry
dont ask how i know
CHICKEN JOCKEY
Apparently, you can make a sword from blood because it contains small traces of iron.
So bactons have micro tech? Well Zarek is dead
Joke
Also isnt the whole bloodblade thing just that?
I think so
I couldn't find any post bigger than this during my post reviving rampage d7eyfbegf9q36r
This is probably the biggest post ever
exactly bruh
Tho I'm currently aiming to make a post that's even bigger
In terms of the idea itself
Good luck
No way I'm able to replicate this much messages
messages aside, try making a post with more reactions
if you suck at balancing, just focus on the concept
I actually managed to get like 31
one time without any balancing stuff
It's not really gonna be balanced focused
It's simply endless deads but bigger
cool
If u wanna see the idea it's in the fig server, in #massive-projects
alright
I'm currently in act 1
Mm, I'd like competition
Same here, but we're about to shove off to Part II 🔥🔥🔥
YESSS
Always has been 💔
Good
deadton
Tonton Campaign

hmm Vending Machines in Inamorta
Considering a fourth stage instead of three.
Instead of asking for Part III you'll have to ask for Part IV 💔
W
Ah, so you’ve finally returned
My death was...greatly exaggerated
Well of course I know him, he’s me
(No I do not mean I am you
)
Day 1 of reminding you that: you can grow your own wig
Lalitesh is taking a break but you can ask any questions you'd like
Anything besides when it releases.
any new units @frozen roost?
besides the Silverhearts TumorbowsDeadeyes and the Argegis
I've decided on a name for the Riprider variants - "Raptorknights."
You'll encounter one of these in Part II, and Part IV.
hmm
can you like try include my fan units?
the Hammermaidens
Ah, right.
I should get to this.
Part III needs new units. I'm all ears.
But for fan units to be included, I need them to be tied in with the lore somewhat.

I'd also need their design description
Can it be animals
Stenkisser unit 💔
If the fan made unit uses animals, yes. If it's just animals, no.
Enemies in this campaign are 90% human. The other 10% is for the Riptors.
I have no lore yet
but they're monk type units
Could you please lead on as to what exactly you're doing-
Hammermaidens and monk type units would be fire
the Hammermaidens are monk type units
I'm more than happy to include them, given that you have lore (as to why they're there) and a design description
I said I have no lore yet
still WIP with the lore
All good.
they're females btw
like offensive rush type units
That's the scary part
wdym?
new MattieSSJ victims
JESUS
Do not let Mattie, LMZ or AK see this
Or it's joever
the hourglass build 😭
what's wrong?
this is the full model assembled fanservice warning
If you want me to really send: meet me at DMs
I can already see that sht
I don't need the full image
💔
too much fan service bro
relax it's my style maybe in Lalitesh's style ain't so bad
he outta give them the humongous double circles too 💔
it's ENGRAVED into their design gang-
I could tell Lalitesh to give the hammers a little more oomph. They look generic... I'm thinking of something like Tinkaton (the comically large hammers)
LMZ having the sudden interest to look into my little project (there's mentions of female characters 😱😱😱)
@sharp dust when you get to it, tell me bits about the lore whenever you can. You'll also have to handle some moderate spoilers if we're going through with this 
@frozen roost
I'm planning to add like long ah braids that are brownish blonde but I can't
and I also planned to add a rune on the hammer
Your artstyle is really appealing. There's no shading, but none of the colours burn into my eyes.
I just don't know how to shade...
I'm curious what it would look like
I've got a gut feeling that your artstyle is much better without it
anyways I'll send stats right away
they were originally order units
should I or you keep them as order units?
I don't follow - explain?
like it's either I or you decide to keep them as order units
Ah, so if they should be enemies or allies?
ye
Hammermaidens
- Faction: Order Empire
- Type: Heavy Melee
- Role: Offensive Tank / Disruptor
- Tags: Heavy, Melee, Order
Unit Stats
- HP: 200
- Armor: Heavy
- Damage: 20 (Melee/Physical)
- Attack Speed: 1.2s per swing
- DPS: ~16.66
- Movement Speed: Slow
- Population Cost: 3
- Training Cost: 350 Gold, 50 Crystal
- Training Time: 17 seconds
- Cooldowns: 15 and 20 seconds
Unit Function
The Hammermaidens are front-line disruptors who combine resilience with battlefield control. While not as defensively stalwart as Speartons, they excel in aggressive formations, smashing enemy clusters and opening up space for DPS units. Their synergy-based abilities encourage unit coordination and statue-based anchoring.
Abilities
Hammer Discipline (Passive)
Effect:
While within range of either a Statue or a General, Hammermaidens gain:
- Immunity to stun
- +10% knockback resistance
Tactical Note: Best used as frontliners in statue holds or while advancing behind a general to maintain uptime.
Crushing Slam (Active)
- Cooldown: 15 seconds
- Wind-up Time: 0.5 seconds (interruptible)
- Range: Close-range cone, slightly longer than standard melee
- Effect:
- Delivers a wide frontal slam, dealing 25 damage
- Hits up to 3 nearby enemies for 80% splash damage
- Stuns affected enemies for 1.5 seconds
Counterplay:
- Interruptible during wind-up by enemy ranged knockbacks or stuns.
Earthen Pulse (Active)
- Cooldown: 20 seconds
- Trigger:
- Activated manually OR;
- Automatically triggers when 2+ Hammermaidens are nearby
- Effect:
- Slams the ground to create a small shockwave
- Deals 12 AoE physical damage to surrounding enemies
- Applies 30% movement slow for 3 seconds
- Does not stun (to prevent CC overlap)
- Temple Scaling:
- Temple I Upgrade: -20% cooldown
- Temple II Upgrade: -40% cooldown
I remember reviewing this
but yeah, it has way too much things for being that cheap
ye you berated me
I was trying man I ain't good at stats
they even a general
General Martela Stonegrace
“Hammer ready. Spirit steady.”
- Faction: Order Empire
- Type: Heavy Melee
- Role: Offensive Tank / Disruptor
- Tags: General, Heavy, Melee, Order
Base Stats
- HP: 450
- Armor: Heavy
- Damage: 30 (40H) (Melee/Physical)
- Attack Speed: 1.6s per swing
- DPS: ~16.66
- Movement Speed: Slow
- Population Cost: 9
- Training Cost: 700 Gold, 150 Crystal
- Training Time: 50 seconds
- Cooldowns: 20 and 40 seconds
Abilities
1. Earthen Ward (Active)
- She plants Stoneheart into the ground, creating a temporary rune barrier that absorbs 100 damage for 5s for nearby allies.
- Barrier scales with Hammermaidens nearby (up to +50 bonus HP per maiden).
- Cooldown: 20s
2. Unbreakable Rhythm (Passive)
- After every third attack, her next attack deals double damage and knocks enemies further.
- Also gives her 25% movement speed for 3s.
- Encourages patient, rhythmic strikes.
3. Quake Pulse (Active - Requires Temple I)
- A charged overhead slam that creates a forward cone shockwave, dealing 60 AoE damage, stunning for 1.5s, and leaving cracked ground that slows enemies for 5s.
- Visually breaks the earth in front of her in a pattern (good for zoning or escape denial).
- Cooldown: 40s
- Temple Synergy:
- Temple I: unlocks the ability
- Temple II upgrade: −30% cooldown
4. Will of Stone (Passive)
- She becomes immune to stun and slow.
- Nearby allied units (including non-Hammermaidens) take 10% less knockback and gain +5% cooldown reduction on active abilities.
- Every 10 seconds, the next attack from a Hammer unit nearby (including herself) gains a bonus knockback effect and +25% AoE radius.
- Bastion Synergy:
- Bastion I: Expands aura radius by +10%
- Bastion II: Aura affects all Order units, not just melee or Hammermaidens
I needs the opinion
I'll just delete it then since it's op
why delete when it's op?
my friend said it's balanced
there's no reason to delete it, you can take feedback and suggestions to make it more balanced from people
if you don't want those, you can just present the idea itself without stats so you don't have to deal with criticism
I had like someone balance this for me
who was it if I may ask? :>
Don't delete it 🙏
you always have to take consideration yourself and determine whether it's op or not, but if you're unsure or don't want to, you can always ask many other peoples opinions on it
@wraith trout

Hi
yo
Buff Earthen Ward
If she's an allied General in the campaign, enemy units and bosses will just shred that ability apart
how much?
So this is where that unit is for
Give each nearby unit 50 HP (defence)
Defence ignores splash and bonus type damage
By bonus I mean light or heavy. For example, Archis deals 35 damage against a Light unit, but if he [hypothetically] shot a unit graced with Earthen Ward, he'd only deal 25.
man stats are fcking confusing
This campaign is only going to get more and more confusing
I should consider an in-game almanac
PvZ or Kingdom Rush type sh**
umm add Gerald as a General
Bacton: "IT'S OVER! THE ORDER EMPIRE...CRUMBLES... HEEEEERE-"
"HONOR GUIDE ME!"
All bosses are cooked if Gerald uses Shield of Retribution
Alleria is Archis but female
apparently he loses that ability in Battles
They did him dirty in KR:V too
ye
"For Honor and Glory or whatever" - Lightseeker 2018
Then he locked in for Legends
fpr some reason I ship him with Asra
Fair ship
this post is missing an "e" before this became a creepypasta @frozen roost
I'm confused?
OOOOOH
This project will have horror aspects, so EXE wouldn't be out of place at all
The Blights contribute 25% of the horror effort.
The other 75% is from war and how miserable it is.
That skin-tight leather suit...
Goonable unit coming soon??
AIGHT BET
the chest pic is crazy
Flashbacks to
POSITIONS! LETS SHOW THESE UPSTAR-
😭😭
😔

Positions in the upstairs bedroom
I hope hammermaiden is top
Hello
Hello
I'll def drop smth on my birthday
yes
At least the attention is drawn away from Kestral
my daughter is hotter than yours imo
also it's my first time drawing wemen
-# that is very hot
That's a good thing
Because Mattie can leave Kestral alone now🙏
if I could remember this is my second waifu I made
Wasn't the first the Meric?
ik
woops two pictures
i thought the first was a messaging error 😭 then i realized i sent the same picture twice by accident 😭 😭 😭

Nah I'm still going to goon
real
“I’m sure Bacton knows what he’s doing, keeps my brother in check - 👴”
🔥
I don't think Zarek would fight Zilaros since Zarek was drunk when he treated Zilaros like crap, but when he was taken to prison and had flashbacks he became a good person and decided to drink water instead of wine
Zarek without his crown in prison looks cursed
It's actually Zilaros who has a grudge against Zarek since he said one time in a dialogue: "Zarek has held my crown long enough"
so apparently Zilaros will have some villain/traitor arc or sum shi
wait a minute...
I should try making a campaign idea with that!!!
sometime...
idk
Than zilaros takes over than atreyos fights him for throne
And atreyos takes over
Then spearos comes and dethrones atreyos
And then Mr Vainman spears Spearos
Then the game turns into Kingdom Rush Battles
And Bacton and Zarek team up like Vez'nan and King Denas
Like Alliance
Then Kytchu turns into Alleria come on bro
Then Rex turns into a poison pin cod
this should not be allowed to be taken out of context
Zarek already executed spearos
bro @frozen roost I'm kinda straying away from Stick War type units
cuz I'm adding a barbarian general
Like KR?
idk if I should make it

Neuron activation.
huh
Neuron activation.
also @frozen roost can I send my unit as it's own fan-idea?
him rn
Of course you can - it's yours
What game is dis
Kingdom Rush Battles
ded chat
@frozen roost first merc lore
Feared in every frozen valley and blood-soaked ridge of the north, Hakvar Wolfsbane earned the name Mauler of the North not by title, but by terror. A lone mercenary with no master and no banner, he answers to no kingdom - only the call of the hunt. His savage raids left entire garrisons vanished, their bones frozen in place, their tales whispered by wind and wolf. Even Spearos dares not speak Hakvar’s name without steel in hand.
Those who’ve faced him speak of a maddening howl, of wild eyes that burn with old fury, and of whirlwinds of steel carving through the snow. He does not come with armies - he is the warband. Some swear he’s more beast than man, shifting in shape when the blood spills thickest. But all agree on one thing: when silence falls, and your breath fogs before a final sound... it’s already too late.
Friend or foe? Who knows...
ye
I'm suggesting a name change because of how complex this project is going to be. Given time, it could even increase and feature even more content than I had initially planned, but I don't want to drag it out.
Even though the main focus of the campaign is the red man himself - Bacton - he only appears during cutscenes and will only debut in person for the grand finale.
With the introduction of a new level (and perhaps another cutscene), it's quite hard to keep the current name, especially when there's a lot of new characters being introduced. I'm referring to mercenary captains and other new Generals, friend or foe.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Campaign that features bacteria
Wouldn't mercenary campaign be simpler
Campaign ft. bacteria
Nah
I feel like the word 'mercenary' has been over used
"Sellsword" gives it a bit more flair
Agreed

hmm what about "Money over Mercy Campaign" @frozen roost?
That's a good title
I was thinking of something along the lines of "Inamorta's Finest"
Your suggestion really is good though...
Hm...
Inamorta's Finest Murder Machines
@sharp dust I'm stemming this form your suggestion. What about "Contracts and Conquest"?
hmm neat idea
Contracts and Conquest: Inamorta's Finest Murder Machines
I got the idea from "Divide and Conquer" which is one of my favourite little war quips
Okay, that's overkill-
Also, "Murder Machines" might make people think about Murder Drones
bruh
Contracts and-
There could be one more
any ideas?
DMs
sure
Its more of a DLC for the Order Campaign since there are very few missions and you play as Order
Yeah, the legitimate name for the "Bacton Campaign" is actually "Chapter 8" because it happens almost immediately after the final mission.
Reminder
idk man
Too long to be a name
Kingsfall campaign
@fallow willow @silver mesa @ripe iris @wraith trout please cast your votes
Operation Kingsfall?
It appears there's been a rebellion

I’m included I feel special
Is bacton campaign not doing it for u guys no more
Bacton's Advance
@ripe iris
Sounds fairly bland, no?
It's pretty good rn so idk of a better name
Lalitesh considered "Kingsfall Campaign", which I love
Plus I'm not too deep into the bacton lore
We're only in Part I
There's three more to go
I am incapable of digging through all these comments
I made a doc that basically summarizes everything, but it's better if I tell you in person
Where would you like to start?
The characters and the entire plot of the campaign
basically just the main info you'd need to understand what's going on
No real need for character backstories that isn't rlly too essential to the main plot but would be cool if heard
Hello
The Order Empire:
●Zilaros: After Wrathnar's defeat and the fall of the Lunarclops, Zilaros heads home via the Great Bridge, which was besieged by mercenaries. With the help of the player, he survives alongside what's left of the army returning with him.
●Zarek: A major reason as to why the campaign happened in the first place. After the Second Great War, he sentenced Bacton to be executed, however, he escaped. If the execution was successful, Bacton never would've plotted and enacted his revenge.
Mercenaries:
●Silverhearts: Led by Great Silver Sten. The Silver Hearts act as security for Lavish's territory against the Borderland Flame Feeders, who he feared would pillage his mines. For payment, they were given silver, but since Order passed through and stopped the operations, their supply has been cut off. Angered, they didn't hesitate to assist Bacton in his plan to wipe out Order.
●Deadeyes: A culture of archers, most of which are women, led by String Saint Kestral. Deadeyes were mistaken as savages by Order, resulting in them being attacked. Due to the skirmishing force being slaughtered by a barrage of arrows, Order was discouraged to continue their attack and avoided the Deadeyes. Deadeyes agreed to join Bacton's plot out of fear that they would one day be unable to prevent Order from invading their colony.
Blights: A cult that had wormed itself into the underground of Capital Iris. Blights are just as lethal, if not more, than Shadowrath. They were believed to be a myth, however Zilaros' experiences at the Great Bridge confirmed their existence. Collectively, they drone about obscure concepts such as the 'Red River' and 'The Fløw'.
Ripriders: Bacton's company. Not much is known about them as they've managed to keep themselves secluded. They were firstly and lastly encountered in a passage several years prior to the Great Bridge incident.
It's a continuation of order campaign,you are atreyos and you fight mercenaries
Shouldn't order cover lavish's defenses? Actually, it would be kinda weird for lavish having defenses from others since he probably controls the order's government and economy, plus was probably the one who helped zarek get men to fight for him in the first place
Deadeyes are cool
Blights are also cool
So bacton is a riprider general, noted.
IMO, it isn't out of place for Lavish to have the Silverhearts work as a security company for him. From what I know, he only sees value in gold, so their fee being silver is extremely convenient (since they're getting excess ores out of his pocket), plus they're actually reliable.
Also, why should Order cover Lavish? They attacked him in the first place (in the Order Campaign).
Lavish kick-started order and controls the tax
They would be severely in trouble if they anger lavish of all people too much
I think all the order miners are in lavish's control, so they're gonna take a huge damage in their economy
Hmm
Remember that Zarek and Lavish have been beefing.
In the Shadowrath lore, Shade gifted her father the Shadowrath to lift the Majestic Mafia's hold on the capital.
I think in that point of the campaign zarek was still out of control over everything
Also zilaros didn't want to go there, but they had no choice since it was in the way of their path
Idk why they didn't just go around it
I'm guessing zilaros only pushed through the mines doing the least amount of damage he could
Agreed
Also it's crazy how zilaros started all the wrathnar stuff because of his greed
He legit attacked the flamefeeders who wanted nothing to do with anyone just because of the treasure
I remember seeing it on the newspaper where the shadowraths claim they can do a better job at protecting inamorta
But idk if zarek himself actually had beef with lavish
Zarek is close friends with lavish
Initially formed by Princess Shade, the Shadowrath were a group of assassins commonly recruited from the best of the Swordwrath. Originally formed to battle the mafia stranglehold, after some success. Princess Shade gifted them to King Zarek during the second great war.[1]
Had he known zilaros was intervening with lavish, he might've stopped zilaros on the spot
"Zarek would never allow this!"
Check yo dms
Wait during the second great war? Then who are those shadowraths against us
A lot of things got retconned in SWS. Just pretend that those Shadowrath in SW2 were rogues.
Also it still seems zarek doesn't fully trust the shadowraths even after the second war
Hmm I see
Anyhow, don't you think it would be in-character of Lavish to have at least some form of extra security?
In a direct conflict, he wouldn't be able to take on the Borderland Flame Feeders.
I think he could(?)
His army consists of Miners, Swordwrath and Speartons...
He's cooked.
Order could take wrathnar down easily, even with lunarclops appearing out of nowhere
But when zilaros was in lavish's mines, he stated that an all out war with lavish was inevitable but avoided it by rushing out of there as fast as he could
"but not today." He said
We're talking about the Majestic Mafia vs Borderlands Flame Feeders, what is Order doing here?
If order can beat flamefeeders
That means they're atleast stronger than them
But if order themselves don't even want to initiate a war with lavish (aka the leader of the majestic mafia), then that speaks numbers
Also zilaros mentioned that the mafia claims to control order's cities
IMO, it must be involving some sort of deal between Zarek and Lavish, and Zilaros has to respect that, whether he wants to or not.
I still think lavish could beat flamefeeders
The only threat I can imagine Lavish doing is inflating Inamorta's economy by printing coins.
Check dms
His main base are the mines, which means he immediately has the advantage in economy
He could mass produce men to the point the flamefeeders can't keep up
he's absolutely rich, he might even buy wrathnar's leadership of the flamefeeders by bribing everyone with money
Bribing is a viable strategy, but what about direct conflict?
On the battlefield, I don't see the Majestic Mafia winning.
Lavish has a big economy advantage
He summons miners from nowhere
Lavish vs Wrathnar is like coughing baby vs atomic bomb
Wrathnar is just pure strength while lavish has the numbers advantage and has a better chance at restocking his troops
But if wrathnar pulls out the lunarclops
Then yeah idk what lavish is gonna do
He's just cooked
This is true
Don't forget that Wrathnar's troops are enhanced by lava
So all of his men would have a higher kill-to-death ratio compared to what Lavish has.
Lore-wise that's horrifying + idk how his troops even hold their weapons but gameplay wise Its all for show
Even using gameplay wise weapons enhanced by that insane substance would easily melt equipment and burn everything around them
it would make no sense for atreyos to somehow beat them to the point lunarclops appears and be somewhat damaged instead of being a pile of melted charred goo on the field
Even if it would just set units on fire and not being pure lava
You are setting units on literal fire
I don't think guys like atreyos would even survive that
Again, we're talking about fantasy here
You are on to something though
If order units could survive wrathnar's troops then lavish's could to the point they could still put up a fight
Wrathnar would have more damage, but I don't think it would be to the point it's a complete slaughter
Spearos found Glacial powers underground, Mera found Vampirism in an artifact, Magis harnessed Voltaic, and... Wrathnar dipped his sword into lava like a chip and became a superhuman?
Friendly reminder how spearos's glacial equipment aren't even the coldest
There is a literal tribe called sub zero
How the hell are you even warm and living my brother
Order has an unfair advantage because they pinch technologies from factions they've conquered
You could beat wrathnar with swords only
Or even with no tech or upgrades, just pure units
Altho that's gameplay
Let's try and leave gameplay out of the equation and focus on lorewise
Guess wrathnar's face being burnt was good enough character development to turn him into homelander
I think lavish would also have some of that technology aswell
Not all of them but probably a good amount of it
I highly doubt it
Wait, if we're talking about what Order has acquired, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't. He'd have his own unique technology
If wrathnar manages to take down lavish or hinder his economy in the early game, then he would win
(Or basically, just overpower lavish in the early game)
But if lavish manages to reach late game, it might be over for wrathnar
By that point lavish wouldn't have to break a sweat replacing all of his men
Are we talking lorewise or in-game?
Lavish is pretty much already on the late game
He could summon an army just by tossing bags of money onto a field
this post is so active
It must stay active
It's one of the best fan ideas to ever be made
Treasures like these need to be preserved and kept alive
This is only Part I and I'm amazed at how it's still relevant
I think it all comes down to environment
If lavish is near his mines or is in a gold rush situation then it would simply be a complete win for him
But if it's in the middle of nowhere it would be harder or possibly impossible for lavish
I agree on this circumstance
Plus, I don't think Lavish would want to be dragging a bag and pickaxe around if his enemy is tearing his army apart
He seems to be the type to send an army with a pseudo-leader, rather than place himself in that situation.
True
Unrelated stuff but I'm starting to wonder how gold is even valuable in the stick war world
Value is represented by how rare and limited something is
Gold is like one of the most common resources we have ever seen in the verse
How is it still valuable
Even troops wear it into battle 💀
In SWL, all units could wear gold
Swordwrath had golden swords and helmets
Actually
Swordwraths wore them as helmet and had jewels on it
Atleast those jewels are less common
But still
Absolutely insane
Lavish definetly controls every single mine in the world, which means order also has control to those mines
Anyways, back on topic (we got so offtopic💔)
What are the silverhearts again?
Like what weapon do they primarily use
Thx
Silverhearts greatly remind me of Xenophon
He must be a legend to them or a significant person to their lore
since he wields a large blade similar to them
Aha... About that, Sten and Xenophon never met.
Silverhearts have operated exclusively in South West Inamorta
That is, until Bacton contracted them
I think they would be close buddies if they did
They're kinda similar to eachother
Okay argegis is insanely broken and overpowered but it's campaign only so it's fine
Seems like a not so fun enemy to face
Mercenaries are supposed to be more slightly or moderately powerful than the player
It's only a matter of time for order to steal their tech...
They appear in the final mission, AKA Part IV
They'd have to rip it from their bodies
This is pretty broken, but I would imagine it has slow attack speed so ig it would be balanced
That would be easy since those bodies are probably lifeless
This campaign has no statues, no building upgrades (Barracks, Forge, etc.), no garrison and no resource veins for Miners
For the enemy right...?
Sten walks a direct line to your base and will engage anything in his path
Wait we play as bacton or order?
Both sides
Ohh so basically an ambush

You play as Order. The Bacton Campaign happens almost immediately after Wrathnar's Last Stand
Yesn't
@wraith trout you'd understand why Lavish would have wanted these folks as first responders in case Wrathnar attacked, yes?
I think lavish would want these guys in case anybody attacked💀
Not just wrathnar
Silverhearts could have possibly stopped Order from entering the mines at all, but they were stationed elsewhere
It had to be done to tie in with the lore
I wonder if lavish will betray order and join bacton
You're leading into something
But I'll cement it while it's still early
Bacton would still side with Order, or remain completely neutral
Bacton is almost as rich as he is
It would also be much more harder to tax an Inamorta controlled by mercenaries, rather than one or two superpowers
Especially if a lot of those mercenaries find a lot of non-gold things valuable.
Now I'm thinking if bacton wins this campaign, how would the elementals react
Specifically V
They'd probably want to stay as far away from Inamorta as possible
But they live in inamorta?
Isn't inamorta the planet itself
Marrowkai would also be sweating knowing that some man way out of his prime managed to take down an entire empire
There's is an island off to the side of Inamorta
I have to find the post again
He might join bacton just to avoid the smoke
@wraith trout found it
The V island?
Order lives in the third map and explores the second map
Chaos lives in the second map and might explore the third or first map
Elementals live in the first map
All of these are just islands of inamorta tho?
Islands or continents
Well, I suppose I should say they'd want to stay away from Central Inamorta
Yeah that makes more sense
Seems unlikely
Marrowkai's goal seems to be revenge, so when Zarek is slain he'd lack motivation
He might desire power though
He might do something with Medusa's head
I had the theory that Marrowkai took Medusa's head to use as a source of motivation for Petra to take up her mother's mantle and reunite the Chaos Empire.
I think reuniting chaos is in Petra's hands
I forgot to include Petra
I still have a theory that deads and chaos are diffirent and not in ties because of the kai
Or because deads might be too much of a liability now that only a singular Kai is in control of every single one of them and is a past orderite aswell (plus is much more recent and less experienced than the kai's chaos originally knew)
Plus in swl there is an upcoming gamemode called relentless deads which is in the pov of the chaos empire
Oh??
Swl is also getting a chaos campaign/chaos's pov so yippee ig
I'm thinking really hard about this
Because I don't think they would take it lightly on how some random guy managed to defeat what is basically god's chosen empire
Then again, that random guy and his allies aren't normal
Two possible scenarios I can think of is they try to punish bacton or deem bacton as the new rightful leaders of the order title because they're more worthy
Still just a random guy tho
Bacton served during the Second Great War and sided with Order. At some point, he was paid a hefty amount of gold by the Rebels and fought for them. Eventually, both sides began bidding to have him on their sides. At the end of the Second Great War, he was put on trial and was given a death sentence.
He was too dangerous to be left alive.
Damn he's a beast
Shouldn't he have a massive bounty on his head?
With all that resources on the line I think every other empire would want to kill bacton
Even the deadeyes and silverhearts
The only empire he offended was Order.
I also should've mentioned that he was sentenced to execution after the Rebels were crushed at Westwind and united with Order in No Man's Land.
Theoretically what bounty would bacton have had?
Cuz I think if it was big enough, chaos and maybe some other guys might want to get involved
The bounty would be paid out by Order, and they obviously wouldn't give Chaos a dime.
I see
With a threat like bacton I think they might make a temporary team up just to get rid of him and then backstab chaos
Plus chaos is kind of in a situation where they desparately need some resources to get back into their former glory
Thing is, Bacton hasn't caused harm to Chaos. He's actually doing them a favour by fighting Order.
But yeah I can see order blacklisting chaos from this
||Actually, he did take a piece of their territory - the Crawler Den - which was then refurbished into his base of operations.||
But that's very minimal.
Fair point
Deadeyes don't see value gold, nor do Silverhearts (they only like silver)
They're two different things
brah
I see
That is fire
So what are the top names so far
Okay now that you mentioned bacton having a bounty on zarek himself
Thats a complete game changer
Everybody would want to kill zarek
It's also a foreshadowing
Even zilaros
They'd rather try taking him down than taking bacton down just because of zarek's relations towards others
But bacton being a monster is also a good factor as to why nobody has the balls to assassinate him
This is a little homage to Bacton's partner in crime - Rex.
Probably the most lore accurate depiction of him.
Contracts & Conquest
Kingsfall Campaign
Bacton's Advance
Operation Kingsfall
Sellsword Campaign
Operation Kingsfall and Contacts & Conquests sound the best imo
I'd totally name it Contracts & Conquests if it was a tabletop RPG
Like Dungeons & Dragons
😂
You could definetly turn the bacton campaign into its standalone game
Which is gonna be very very hard but it's still a possibility
Operation Kingsfall is probably the most appropriate for now
Either this or the Kingsfall Campaign
As LowTop said, it's like a DLC
You get four new missions and a handful of bonus levels
Ah, right. And cutscenes.
This post has surpassed the trumpet post in comments by a LONG shot
5,690+ comments is the most I've ever seen in this forum
what is dlc
Downloadable Content
oh okay
I thought the l in dlc was a separate word🥀
🥄
Zarek whips out the Xenophon to clash with bacton in the last part
I'm looking forward to the future of the bacton campaign
Operation Kingsfall sounds the best
as long as it fits the narrative of the dlc/mods campaign that definitely should b the name
"Xenophon, release!"
Should the Bacton Campaign be renamed?
3
5
1
Keep it as the "Bacton Campaign"
Vine boom
will there be a part two
Bacton says to him in bed
where progress?
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
where is he in the members list of this post
then?
DID HE GET BANNED?
we didn't do anything they just left
More or less devastating
requiescat in pace, Mattie
Ye, they said something weird in here, deleted it, then left
I'm back @frozen roost
Thank heavens
anyways any dev progress?
basically just Lavish hiring some goofy goofy goofy mercenaries
it's good tbh
but not sure if it'd fit the game now that I think about it
I mean like, if I get new cards as in, NEW cards then sure It'd be a blast
but idk if Ravioli will add ally cards
@wraith trout STOP ITTT!!!!
@clever steeple: "I used the
to destroy the
"
yessir
fight fire with fire
The lore document will clarify a lot of things
where
I'm trying to keep this close to canon, but if this doesn't get a green light by devs I don't have any reason to hold back with my writing
If I give it to you right now, it's extremely bare bones
you said it'd clarify a lot of things
I'm just curious dw
Basically, it'll clarify how certain things fit into lore
E.g. where the Silverhearts were when Order attacked Lavish, and reasons why mercenary companies joined Bacton, etc.
I've already given and repeated answers for these questions but for newcomers, they can just look into the doc
The way I have the doc going is in an FAQ format
I didn't really pay attention much so which is why I'm asking
Yeah, so newcomers or returning people can refer to the doc if they have any curiosities
It'll save my fingers
so uhh where's the document?
It's bare bones at the moment.
and also where's part IV and V?
There's a Part V?
Maybe, but changing the level cap from three to four should be good enough
Lalitesh seems to have wandered off somewhere
oh ok
I need him back ASAP, I got money to throw
you're actually giving him money
I pay him
how much?
you should like hire other artists
I don't know anybody else like Lalitesh
Lalitesh also works relatively fast, but he's got tangled up in something
hmm maybe ask the server
cuz you needed more atrists
don't hire me tho, I can't shade
The art department should be alright for now
There's also S4me but I'm not sure how they'd like their payments done
But what I really need are voice actors
can you show me their artworks?
Credit: @.s4meperson
The second and third images were for a horror AU sample they made
oh this
S4me is planned to assist with cutscene artwork
And animation (?)
maybe Waterbug
I could help with art
Just don't trust me on shading I still don't get how that works
@sonic pewter could we talk about getting those Sten assets animated?
WaterBug (EST) is AFK: Sleep - 6 hours ago
I'd have to see some samples
If your artstyle isn't what I'm looking for, I could still commission you for promo arts
I'll show in dms
can you show me too?
sure
Me forgor
Probably
What's the purple thingy?
It's a mystery tool that will help us later
fish
❤️🩹
bone
also @frozen roost can you send me Sten assets
Oh
I know

Reminds me of stick nodes ngl
They also had a very similar system
Or same system idk

STAWPP
MWAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm the biggest bird I'm the biggest bird
I'm the biggest bird I'm the biggest bird
"I'm the biggest bird in the big 25🥀 💔 🪫"
"Omg ur so 2022💔"
SHUT UPPP!!!!
AHHHHH
Are your standards high? I can get you some if you want, I know a few people.
pretty sure they're hella bored since the leader of our studio rarely gives scripts

megawhaaat
Moderately high
I mean like, there's one person I know. I can give you his user and sample voice lines if you'd like.
his name is K Kasher and I think he'll perform with excellence
There's a person called rainarts

Great Silver Sten is at the ready.
Credit: @sonic pewter for the animation & @maiden temple for the assets
ugh 😫
wow
50,000 HP
btw are you taking a break so you can work on bacton campaign
just asking
The boss when the boss bosses around other bosses that boss their boss
Yeah, I am
do you know when you will come back
When Vault gets nerfed
lol okay
surge and vault are the problem
If they both get nerfed I'll 100% be back
yayyy
Until then, please consider glossing over my little project
We're on a working spree at the moment
A&F
I think I beat Arawn a little too hard
Lol
i think it was because you posted the a&f vs spearcher video
i dont even use cw anymore
I had three matches against the Top 1 (violetofficial).
Thumbnail by SkipS_125
I hope he doesn't nerf Lord Wrathiusnarius
wrathnar is fine
I agree
Lore suggestion for Sten: He shadows himself 
Besides this being just a fan idea, I think we could take some inspiration from it, but a 1:1 copy probably won’t work.
👀
What does 1:1 mean?
I'm guessing you're referring to the story. If I could, I would love to ask CJ a couple questions just to iron out some of my inconsistencies and keep this project as close to lore as possible.
New upgrade added - introducing Blitz.
This one took me a while to figure out, but I'm sure you'll love it.
Here's how it works with using Sten's HP as an example.
Blitz Lv. 2
When I said 1:1, I didn’t mean just the story. I meant the idea as a whole, and it wouldn’t be an exact copy in any aspect. We could definitely take inspiration if we’d like, but we wouldn’t copy it directly. CJ is probably busy and might not be able to respond right away, but you could try reaching out to him via email if you’d like to ask a few questions.
Thanks Arawn
Altered the description for Blitz.
Gimme my credits
We worked hard on it
Finally a dev looked
indeed
Isn't that Alan's pfp?
Idk
"Silverhearts" and "Deadeyes" are terms that refer to the mercenary company as a whole, rather than the individual unit themselves. For example, Sten is said to be the "Leader of the Silverhearts" without the mention of the Argegis units that fall under the same banner. Ergo, some mercenary units have been renamed.
Share your thoughts
She's back
Credit: LaliteshSSF
Long hair
With this power, I summon @icy apex
Yet another behind the scenes
bowling
Too bad I wasn't there (1AM)
Not sure where that is.
We have a base on the moon
Its a group chat for all the people that are working on the campaign
Although this sounds infinitly cooler

It's a group
Let me gooon
Me and my homie LordM*gZ gonna🗣️🔥🔥
That's why the Hammermaidens are here
Owl was such a sweet soul for sacrificing his own creation to the gooners
fronton
huh
dyanaton
Who is Dyana
Credit: @maiden temple (art) & @sonic pewter (animating)
Uh...

idk
I can goon to both
I'm the diddler
Das why
Pls no
Weakest Kestral gooner:
The strongest is LordM*gZ ofc
Homie tweaks every time his fyp shows an image of kytchu
He doesn't even know about this project lmao
Does that make me the strongest?
we can inform him
Then?
🐢
Actually I think I'll pass
lmao
Hello
It'll give this project really bad rep
haii daddytesh
Lean do you wanna come to group as a support unit
real
Join stream
Sussy
later
Sas
Wdym?
🤭
Why not, sure.
Check dms
Take in O²
Release Co²
By ur lungs
CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE UNLOCKED BREATHING
okay but seriously who in the right mind would invite the randomest of randoms into an important gc, even I don't do that in my friend's series😔
Kestral is 99% animated. Expect another update around tomorrow :]
Stand ready for our gooning worms
We don't appreciate these things here.
Sorry
we ain't glue
stick
folks
folks = war
stick war



