#elemental empire (possible stats)

92 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

tough quail
#

earth (heavy elemental) pop 3 / trains in 12 sec
80hp , 8atk +5H (4+2.5H dps) , cost 150gold
each armory level gives him 20hp (level 2 gives him and chompler 120hp)
normal attack does stun for half a second
ability: transform into economy chompler (same stats without stun or heavy damage) (transformation takes 3 seconds)

water (light elemental) pop 3 / trains in 10 sec
140hp , 0atk , cost 300gold
normal attack is ranged (toxic dead) and slows enemy units for 40% (each temple level adds 5%) stacks with glacial fletching
ability: he dies
upon death does an explosion that heals nearby allies for 40hp

fire (light elemental) pop 3 / trains in 15 sec
100hp , 2atk +3L , cost 400gold
normal attack is ranged (toxic dead) and does splash damage to 3 targets plus burn damage
each forge level increases burn damage by 2

air (light flying elemental) pop 3 / trains in 20 sec
85hp , 10atk +50%s , cost 350gold
normal attack is a mini lightning storm (only 1 strike with electric damage and has 3 sec cooldown) it hits second target for half damage
each baracks level adds 1 extra electric damage
barracks level 2 adds a third target to the splash damage

#

i used wiki numbers as reference and changed them a little

uneven siren
#

Earth is crazy

#

With a dead build time and eco capability

tough quail
#

in stick empires it had 4 second build time

uneven siren
#

Just have this miner hustle and any miner and ur literally swag messiah

#

Empires has very different balancing lol

tough quail
#

i tried little too little

uneven siren
#

That’s crazy

tough quail
#

actually it has less dps, like half

uneven siren
#

Same dps but faster and can heal friendlies when it gets low

tough quail
uneven siren
#

Counterintuitively fire actually seems worse than other units

#

So it just slows?

tough quail
uneven siren
#

Yeah a 15 percent slow is nothing

#

Squall doesn’t take populations and can do the job much better

tough quail
#

it does stack with the ice arrow thing

uneven siren
#

Even stacking fletching for dealing no damage it’s almost useless

#

Because squall still does the same job but better

tough quail
#

i'll have to increase the base slow percentage

#

next up was fire

uneven siren
#

Fires issue is no splash

#

Ranged units focus on a single target at a time

#

The fire would only hit one guy

#

Which is terrible for how expensive it is, how long it’s build time is, and how much dps it does

#

I’d say Lower the dps of the hit significantly but in turn add splash damage

#

Let the fire handle most of the damage so it serves a more crowd control role rather than focus on a single unit

#

Similarly every other fire unit that attacks would add some speed to the damage ticks

#

So your not pushed to only have 2 or 3 at a time because any more would just not add any status affects

tough quail
#

i had forge increase the fire damage by 2 per level

#

splash damage is noted

uneven siren
#

And for that you should lower the base damage to like 2 dps a tick

#

Because these could do crazy damage for a pathetic early start

#

Which is pretty bad for balance since you could just turtle

#

And then use the late advantage

tough quail
#

hmmm

#

howabout air? i believe that one is bad

uneven siren
#

Yeah no that’s dog water

#

Ok

#

So lower fires base damage to 2, but keep the light damage so against most starts it’s still viable

#

Since almost all starts use lightspam

tough quail
#

so lemme summarise

#

earth and chompler should get less health or damage

uneven siren
#

No

#

Earth should have a longer build time to justify its power

#

Like 14 seconds

tough quail
#

it is suppo... yeah miners build in 15 seconds

uneven siren
#

Air should probably chain damage, it electrifies one, but next hit zaps that unit and electrifies another

#

So on a hit it electrifies one unit and damages any electrified nearby unit

#

So the damage builds to be really high

#

But it takes time

tough quail
#

kinda like the electric wall thingy i gave zilaros

uneven siren
#

Promoting a interesting idea of trying to make a longer lasting deck for late rewards

#

If anything zilaros should promote spell use

#

Over buffing the already powerful mages

tough quail
#

so... earth gets longer training time

#

water gets stronger slow effect (and maybe heals more)

#

fire does less damage but splash damage

#

air... basically gets stronger attack

#

is that right, @uneven siren ?

uneven siren
#

Yeah

tough quail
#

the earth's transformation into chompler takes some time so could i make it like 12 seconds build and 3 seconds transformation

uneven siren
#

Though nothing can beat the ROOOOOOOOOOK

uneven siren
tough quail
uneven siren
#

FOR 1 SECOND

#

EVERY BASIC HIT

tough quail
#

do i need to say... stick.empires.

uneven siren
#

REMOVE THAT NOW

1648.jpg
#

That’s a entirely different game with entirely different balancing zawg

#

Also in economy chomp let’s shouldn’t be able to do damage

#

Otherwise early game they can just stay permanently

tough quail
uneven siren
#

But this one shouldn’t be able to

#

Especially not just because a different game did it

tough quail
#

i removed its extra damage and stun plus it has less dps than the miner

uneven siren
#

Empires has a giant damn map, and much larger population, but we don’t add that to saga because of balance

tough quail
#

oh yeah...the health

uneven siren
tough quail
#

the base unit...

#

it does like 1 attack every 2 seconds

uneven siren
#

That’s still halfing a enemies damage

tough quail
#

two of these guys can stunlock an enemy

#

the clicky update removed the 2 seconds stun immunity after getting stunned