#How to make general for dummies

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weak viper
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(U DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS TEMPLATE, THERE'S ALOT OF POSSIBILITES IF U KNOW THE GAME THAT WELL)

Here's the preset for how to make fanmade general unit

Basic universal general unit
❤️ : 250hp ~ 300hp (for archer) / 450hp ~ 500hp (for sword general)
⚔️ : 25 base damage
🗡️ : 12.5/s (archis or kytchu dps) | 21.4/s (xiphos dps)
🪙 : 600 gold, 200 mana (most basic general unit) / 500 gold, 300 mana (sword + mage hybrid like wrathnar)
👤 : 9 population
⌛ : 50 sec train time

Tank general unit
❤️ : 600hp ~ 700hp
⚔️ : 30 base damage
🗡️ : 23.7/s (spearos dps, fuck- atreyos)
🪙 : 700 gold, 200 mana (Rely on unit like atreyos) / 500 gold, 300 mana (tank + mage hybrid like spearos)
👤 : 9 population
⌛ : 50 sec train time

Mages general unit
❤️ : 300hp ~ 500hp
⚔️ : 20 ~ 25 base damage
🪙 : 200 ~ 400 gold, 400 ~ 500 mana (please note that gold depending what role they're, is it like thera being pure support for having 200 gold or magis for tank burster for having 400 gold, 500 mana)
👤 : 9 population
⌛ : 50 sec train time

Giant/Mega Tank Generals (i'm not cross checking if giant general tbf)
❤️ : 900 - 1450hp MAX
⚔️ : 20 - 45 (+H dmg can varies between 5 and 35)
No light unit dmg
Max base aoe cannot go beyond 5
🪙 : Value between 18 - 25 miner deposits
👤 : 12 - 20
⌛ : 70s - 120s train time
Giant generals should only have max of 2 abilities and at most 2 passives

Note:
Its best if you experience 1v1 or 2v2 before making this or just ask help from those who has been playing sw3 for long time. Also when making lore please don't just copy paste, put some unique or whatever that factually make sense

proper hound
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I dont like mages general concept allpwing for a minumum 200 gold and minimum hp of 300

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30 base dmg is still insane and 25 for all the other generals disgusts me

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Although that may just be my bias against generals

weak viper
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lmao

proper hound
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So this is fine actualy

weak viper
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you see, pure support like thera is bit awkward

proper hound
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All generals need abilities tho

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Max 2 abilities for just a general tag

weak viper
proper hound
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Max 4 abilities for a magical general imo

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Ah k

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Maybe lower magical general max hp

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And raise the max price

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Max gold and min mana For the same price as a magikill i can get magis which is insane lol

weak viper
proper hound
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Like imagine getting archis for 300 gold 💀 and plus spell caster generals should be more expensive as they operate in larger scale + later in the game

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Like fr thera might be op

weak viper
proper hound
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Yeah thera ability cooldowns take too long for her to be a good spell caster aside from niche roles imo

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Not that ive played the game

weak viper
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She's order, but works well with light spam(not bomber) including deadspam

Also what's the point of making meric train 25% faster

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Would be better if its just

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25% meric heal more

proper hound
weak viper
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U literally can't understand her

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Just like average women

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💀

proper hound
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😭 😭 😭

weak viper
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@proper hound

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Once sicklebear, mera, shade and icaron were released

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I might make proper ranking for them

proper hound
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K

weak viper
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1/5 why this thing even exist
2/5 having hard time to keep up with online play matches
3/5 mid
4/5 good general unit, beneficial and has some flaws
5/5 too good for being general

weak viper
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@weak kestrel

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I may no longer make general unit anymore

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But i will in the future

weak viper
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@faint dust

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I making template for those who didn't know how to literally make general unit

faint dust
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please include dps oh my god

weak viper
faint dust
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i am so sick of people not including dps fr

weak viper
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@faint dust do you know the atk speed of sword and archer?

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Herald says they're same and identical

faint dust
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wut

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they most certainly arent lol, just take in game dps

weak viper
void turtle
weak viper
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Something insane like spanish justin

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And i want to throw up

faint dust
void turtle
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Griffon did not fit all these criteria

weak viper
faint dust
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giants dont fit into the current general concept atm so not really worth doing and theres no baseline

weak viper
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Drop it here

void turtle
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K

weak viper
void turtle
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Giant/Mega Tank Generals
HP: 900 - 1450 MAX
ATK: 20 - 45 (+H dmg can varies between 5 and 35)
No light unit dmg
Max base aoe cannot go beyond 5
Cost: Value between 18 - 25 miner deposits
Pop: 12 - 20
Training time: 70s - 120s

Giant generals should only have max of 2 abilities and at most 2 passives

faint dust
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already know 1 of those abilities gonna be earthquake and one of em probably gonna be something that negates range lol

void turtle
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My post didnt have anti range ability

void turtle
faint dust
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aoe for a tank is kinda antirange tbh

void turtle
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Just make earthquake range not reach into enemy backline

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I don’t like “marrowkai” ahh earthquake that attack in a straight line

weak viper
weak kestrel
weak viper
weak kestrel
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If it's the same category of unit (????), yes

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Except atreyos

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Maybe

fringe brook
weak viper
weak kestrel
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I checked their stat cards

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And on atreyos

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The attack speed stat, when calculated, is fcking faster than normal spears and spearos

weak viper
weak viper
weak kestrel
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Idfk

weak viper
# weak kestrel Idfk

Yknow what I'm gonna exclude atreyos but keep spearos and normal spearton atk speed for fanmade tank unit general

upbeat kayak
weak viper
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@void turtle @proper hound @faint dust updated

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not the best but

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sure ig

weak viper
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i just copy paste dps from game card

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this is so stupid bruh

faint dust
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still showcasing your chaosphobia but getting there

weak viper
faint dust
weak viper
faint dust
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crawler, eclipsor, dead, riptor all need some love

fringe brook
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I disagree with this one because it purely relies on current generals(except giants, which I disagree too for reducing possibilities)

weak viper
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afterall this is just template

fringe brook
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Instead of making a post of what should or could be done, you should have made what should not be done

weak viper
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u don't have to follow this if you know how it works

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lmao

fringe brook
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Like a bad combination of stats or so

fringe brook
weak viper
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even i manage to use charge mechanic for general idea

fringe brook
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That's their choice that heavily decides whether a general is balanced/interesting or not

weak viper
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somehow i managed to put big fat text in very top

fringe brook
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Then I really see no reason for this post

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If it just restricts the possibilities while barely addressing the bigger issues for making generals

faint dust
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the dps is all wrong crychu

weak viper
faint dust
weak kestrel
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Just noticed that

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I should make a doc on making generals

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Cuz ngl this and generic alt's posts are a bit too specific in general-making

weak kestrel
weak viper