Regarding the Strength Issue of ATREYOS

[tepid shard]

Although Kiricky summoned by ATREAYOS is very interesting, he is so weak... he can't even defeat two swordwrath， As a mount, health should be higher or the same as that of Atreayos, right

[jade hollow]

So you're suggesting atreyos summon another tank in the battle just to make it more annoying for the enemy

[crystal peak]

Clicky is not supposed to be a powerful summon, there is supposed to be some sort of synergy between them in the future

like clicky is supposed to carry atreyos to garrison when atreyos is defeated

[balmy tree]

Clicky is more annoying and distracting unit than actual damager or tank

[livid sedge]

Clicky is just a tank he spawns to soak up damage for em

[livid sedge]

Clicky is not weak, he's not even meant to kill, he's just there

He also doesn't even last that long

[crimson relic]

When clicker is able to let atreyos suicide bomb the enemy it might be that interesting. Absolutely useless ability and should just be passively summoned

Takes up room on my screen for no good reason

[crystal peak]

[livid sedge]

Wipeout got his brain wiped

[crimson relic]

Can’t even use clicker to attack enemy base as soon as he gets there he runs away

[crystal peak]

check their bio

[tepid shard]

500 HP is too low, and it cannot be on the battlefield at any time. Compared to the skills of other generals, Klicky is not worth the high cost of Atreayos. The group gain of old skills has disappeared, but it has not been exchanged for actual individual combat ability

[livid sedge]

Say those first words to the juggerknights

[crystal peak]

👍

[livid sedge]

Clicky is also free after you get atreyos

[livid sedge]

Because it's not finished.

Lol

500 hp isn't too low

Tf you want?
Like 750 hp or something??

[crimson relic]

How about an ability that is actually fun to use

[tepid shard]

The price of ATREAYOS itself is very high, and it deserves stronger performance. The two skills of ATREAYOS combined cannot compare to his old skills, while the utility of klicky is surprisingly low. He has to wait for 30 seconds and need time to run. Is this the only way to replace the original utility of ENCHANTED PIKE?

[livid sedge]

Epike CW Stand In Atreyos already demolished backlines

With his new ability, he can temporarily stop dps

[crystal peak]

atreyos has the best stats among generals

[livid sedge]

Yah

[crystal peak]

for a price of a general who only needs to be bought once, is that really that big of a deal

[wintry sail]

kiricky

[crystal peak]

clicker

[tepid shard]

For lineups carrying ENCHANTED PIKE, the utility brought by klicky and jumping skills is far less than that of traditional skills

[crystal peak]

atleast atreyos now has an ability that isnt locked behind armory 2

[tepid shard]

Atreayos is relatively expensive among generals, second only to Magis, but its late stage group shelving capabilities are completely inferior to bug free Spearos and WRATHNAR, and it is not as good as KYTCHU and XIPHOS when facing GIANT

[livid sedge]

Ofc kytchu and xiphos is better at facing a giant

Spearos is inferior to Atreyos wdym???

Wrathnar dies when he backline snipes, he needs vamp to survive that and even then he'll be left at 5 hp at the end lol

And wrathnar is AOE, atreyos isn't.

[crystal peak]

Atreyos and clicky are tanky unit with fast mobility and decent dps

[cinder bolt]

clicky does +H comparing vs swords is not a fair comparison

[crystal peak]

the generals you listed relies on AOE to be effective

[livid sedge]

Swords are anti tank too

[tepid shard]

Deep freeze's later team battles are much more useful than Kricky's

[cinder bolt]

krickys

[livid sedge]

Why you keep butchering clicky's name 😭

[crystal peak]

but spearos lacks dps unlike atreyos

[crystal peak]

mobility too

[balmy tree]

Clicky grabs enemy unit with his mounth and drags this unit with him

[livid sedge]

Spearos deep freeze carries him, and I don't even think it works properly or as it should

[crystal peak]

tbh I can see that happening

[crystal peak]

plus as you said, LATE GAME, now compare the two during early/mid game

[livid sedge]

Atreyos is good in every game 🔥

[crystal peak]

ok you didnt say late game

but it probably means the same

[exotic mist]

yeah, and i want the stand in ability back

[crystal peak]

I want stand-in but nerfed

[livid sedge]

Stand In 50% carried spearspam

[exotic mist]

atreyos Leap Is worst ability

[crystal peak]

its the only ability restricted to upgrade 2, thats how overpowered it is

[crystal peak]

a mobile tank?

with aoe stuns

[white terrace]

Volley not being locked at all lol.

Also tunnel is temple 2, does that means it's completely busted op?

[livid sedge]

In slow decks like dspam, yeah, it kinda is

[tepid shard]

In the early and middle stages, ATREAYOS will be pulled and consumed by those archer generals, but ATREAYOS has no way to deal with them

[crystal peak]

so does spearos

[livid sedge]

Spearos, wrathnar, magis, etc get destroyed by archer generals

[crystal peak]

Wrathnar dont have the mobility to catch skilled archer users

[livid sedge]

UC archis literally wins in nearly every 1v1 against generals 🙏

[crystal peak]

yeah but Zarek dont need UC to do that

[cinder bolt]

nearly?

with uc archis beats all generals atm

[crystal peak]

really? even UC atreyos or wrathnar

[cinder bolt]

yeah

double dodge

tether

[tepid shard]

But as long as he's there, you have to keep an eye on him. If you don't keep an eye on him, your back seat may be completely ruined

[cinder bolt]

mini rage

[jade hollow]

Wait till riptor general bypassing tether and all debuffs

[crystal peak]

oh yeah wrathnar will be demolished by double dodje

[livid sedge]

Mb

[jade hollow]

Which is a riptor general idea I came up just now

[crystal peak]

HMMMMM

[jade hollow]

He just cuts the tether off like it's nothing

[livid sedge]

MMMMM

[livid sedge]

If that's the case then swords should be immune to tether

[jade hollow]

Nah they're too dumb

[crystal peak]

yeah but unlike Atreyos, wrathnar cant do anything against those archers if he cant reach them. Atreyos can tank those archers for his own army

[livid sedge]

Riptor smarter than swords is crazy 🙏

[exotic mist]

am i the only one who thinks that zarek is the most useless general?

[crystal peak]

too consumed by rage

[crystal peak]

I doubt he is useless, weakest sure, he is also heavily outclassed by new and reworked generals

[jade hollow]

I mean yeah they're trained to handle wild animals, and use spinny blades

how do riptors even spin their blades

They spin them 360° about 2 or 3 times

[exotic mist]

he is indeed useless it seems

[livid sedge]

Wait riptor??

[jade hollow]

Ripriders*

Whoops

[livid sedge]

LMAOOO

[balmy tree]

Tbh they should finish other generals like Icaron or Mera first instead of making other generals

[jade hollow]

Actually tether is a logical counter to riptors

[jade hollow]

Icaron barely has lore

[crystal peak]

he is the only one that can reduce training of egiant, riprider, shadowrath, sickle, and magikill

[jade hollow]

Hasn't even made an appearance except in spearos flashback

[livid sedge]

BRO I LEGIT THOUGHT OF THIS IMAGE WHEN YOU MENTIONED THEN BEING TRAINED TO USE SPINNY BLADES

[jade hollow]

The sentence could work for that and regular Ripriders

[balmy tree]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

[jade hollow]

Riprider general according to CJ

[livid sedge]

I doubt he's also priority right now since albows haven't been added yet

[tepid shard]

Atreayos' jump has a noticeable large forward shake, which is longer than Wrathnar's Lava

[livid sedge]

And we'll probably never get them till chaos campaign

[jade hollow]

Eclipsors taking all the fame fr

[crystal peak]

they and icaron will appear in chaos campaign

[jade hollow]

How ironic would it be that you have to face albows before getting eclipsors

[livid sedge]

Dodgeable.

[crystal peak]

both are dodgeable

mr obvious

[livid sedge]

[jade hollow]

What if chaos empire

Or campaign

[crystal peak]

[jade hollow]

Instead of usually fighting enemies to get their technology

You get technology first but the enemies start using it against you as the campaign goes on

[crystal peak]

imagine using eminers in the same level you first encounter ominers in the chaos campaign

[jade hollow]

Then they start using eminers too

[crystal peak]

battle of the slaves

[jade hollow]

When you show them CGiants they start using EGiants

But when that doesn't work they use both CGiants and EGiants at the same time

j

[jade hollow]

misclick

[tepid shard]

But what's different is that if you have boyers tpap or rachis, Atreayos won't be able to come back

[crystal peak]

so does wrathnar

[cinder bolt]

atreyos doesnt get punished half as hard by that

also his leap gets him out of boyer iirc

[crystal peak]

isnt there a case of wrathnar just floating above ground because he tried to jump while tethered

[cinder bolt]

part of the bug fix

[crystal peak]

oh

[tepid shard]

In the face of this situation, wrathnar can jump and find a good position before continuing to use the skill, rather than repeating it in seconds. This is not only related to tying the rope, but also increases the flame damage effect

[cinder bolt]

yeah i was shocked when i saw wrathnar jump slam out but thether was still attatched