#Griffon the great for sws(saga)

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cursive spire
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Griffon the great
Cost: 1500 gold, 500 mana
Health: 1450hp (+150hp if monstrosity equipped)
Damage: 40 (+30 H), 4 unit cap spread
Attack range: Cgiant
Attack speed: Cgiant
Type: Chaos, Giant, Heavy, Melee, General
Training time: 55 seconds
Population: 15

Ability
Roar magnitude(30s cooldown)
Create massive roar, deal 0 dmg, any enemy unit within griffon radius(thera healing radius) Lowering -3 base damage for 8 seconds

Volcanic heat(40s cooldown)
Cast self-heal that work similar like HHW, heal 10hp/0.5s for 10 seconds

Eruption pulse (30s cooldown)
Create 7 explosion that deal 4 unit cap and deal 8 damage. After getting hit by eruption pulse inflict burn effect
(5 burn damage/0.5 seconds) Lasted 8 seconds

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Side note: tired and sick for seeing swl players try their hardest to fit griffon into sws

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@rotund marten

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Idk figure it out

woven egret
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gifon

cursive spire
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@umbral palm

umbral palm
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Hi

cursive spire
umbral palm
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Low dmag dont giants do 65 base?

cursive spire
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40 base damage

umbral palm
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K

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Ah k

cursive spire
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But become 70 against heavy

umbral palm
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Expensive and not really that good? 20 heal per sec is pretty ok but does give this some good tanking/ survivability compared to normal giants

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Meh eruption should be passive

cursive spire
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Cuz -3 damage debuff isn't joke

umbral palm
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Yes its prettu serious for like crawlers and deads

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Idk

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Idk what to think

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Underpowered still

cursive spire
umbral palm
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K

jovial halo
cursive spire
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Because giants are known with expensive gold cost

jovial halo
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I mean if you want it more balanced so yeah

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he is balanced anyways

umbral palm
cursive spire
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💀

umbral palm
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😭

oak halo
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@topaz cove alright what do you think about this griffon post?

rotund marten
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I'm too lazy to properly review this

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Mainly because a giant general would most definitely need in-game testing to be able to actually balance

cursive spire
rotund marten
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Giants and generals pretty much contradict each other

cursive spire
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Thx to herald phantom empire was a thing

rotund marten
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Damn it

cursive spire
# rotund marten Damn it

Phantom empire need enchant that can benefit them just like how toxic totality fit chaos empire

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@rotund marten

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Upgrade for phantom empire "ancient clockwork"

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HEHEHEHA

rotund marten
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I don't like the sound of that

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I really don't like the sound of that

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I'm gonna poorly edit a video

cursive spire
umbral palm
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Just sacrafice alot

topaz cove
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For that much stuff

cursive spire
topaz cove
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It’s best that gold cost stay 1500 for giants generals but put a lot of mana cost

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like example 1500 gold 750 mana

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Volcanic heat ability could use some rework

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Ik giants need a good healing source

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But stacking this on top of HHW spell sounds a bit powerful

rotund marten
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Giants are high HP and massive melee

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It's gonna be hard using a giant general without having it be under constant DPS

topaz cove
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I might be under extreme criticism but I suggest that Griffon gain damage reduction when he’s affected with Burn

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Idk if that makes sense

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He has volcanic attributes

naive kestrel
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I rate it mlem out of mlem

cursive spire
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Idk, but later

novel fern
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I made a griffon idea a while back that literally changed the map as it moved
That was very overkill....

feral locust
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Sorry for being really late, was writing something but our power went out before I could send it

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Anyways, as expected a giant general is gonna be really hard to balance, especially with the pressure of making it live up to the hype. For this one it has almost no downsides and drawbacks to keep itself balanced other than the cost (which got reduced since I last saw it for some reason), training time, and pop. It has decent crowd control (DMG reduct on enemy units), built-in hhw, and a mini world ablaze+surge. And that's not even mentioning its health and damage

novel fern
feral locust
topaz cove
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I think the downside for Griffon should be his pop, since a giant general made for breaking through tough front line defense. And with that much power u have to sacrifice a big amount of your army capacity .

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for it to be completely balanced

cursive spire
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Ain't no way i make it 20

feral locust