3 unit for phantom empire(real)

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Luminaire (Umbrella)
Cost: 200 gold, 300 mana
Health: 100hp
Damage: 0
Movement speed: Meric
Type: Light, Magic, Phantom
Training time: 20 seconds
Population: 5

Ability
Gracefully (6 seconds cooldown)
Heal 8hp to 3 unit with lowest hp (this heal effect gets 2x stronger when the deck is labelled as phantom)

Festive parrade (20 seconds cooldown)
Buff 25% damage for 4 seconds to nearby ally (range of meric), however if the unit were exit the radius while festive parrade active the effect will turn off

Festive parrade cooldown start after the damage buff duration is over, can't be stacked with rage spell

Twin blade (Scissors)
Cost: 350 gold
Health: 150
Damage: 10 (3 damage spread + 4 unit cap)
Attack range: Spearton
Attack speed: Spearton
Movement speed: Spearton
Type: Light, Melee, Phantom
Training time: 15 seconds
Population: 5

Ability
Cut through flesh (30 seconds cooldown)
Deal 3 Consecutive 13 damage on single target

False bishop (Epitome)
Cost: 100 gold, 350 mana
Health: 165
Damage: 5
Attack range: Magikill
Attack speed: Magikill
Movement speed: Magikill but 15% faster
Type: Light, Magic, Phantom
Training time: 20 seconds
Population: 6

Ability
Greed for blood (10 seconds cooldown)
Deal 35 aoe damage (4 unit cap), this skill doesn't actually stun but rather slowing enemy movement speed for 20%

Lust for blood (15 seconds cooldown)
Target 3 enemy unit then pull them to false bishop and give 'bleed' status effect

Scrambled mind (Passive)
Can't be stunned or inflicted by any status effect

NOTES: Bleed here convert all heal effect into 1hp heal only and bleed doesn't have harm the unit itself

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What this

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Funi

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I'm seeing names that I'm not liking

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Might renamed it but i'm waiting herald for suggestions

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@drifting gazelle

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@summer cliff atleast i make something sane this time

After seeing atreyos and kytchu get bullied in most matches

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The very first thing I see makes me question your sense of balance

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I am unpredictable.

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7.5 heal... That number does not exist within the game and never will

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It will rounded to 8

If 7.5 doesn't exist

[summer cliff]

Festive parade is a knife through my heart

Wait

"300 gold, 100 gold"

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Cost of tdead fr fr

[summer cliff]

My guy, that's 400 gold but turned into an elementary school math equation

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I'm trying to make it close to meric

[summer cliff]

Twin blades deals fcking 32 damage

And the ability too 😭

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I don't had any guilt after making it

[summer cliff]

This post's mere existence makes me feel shame in being the fan ideas guy

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Unless u wanna choke it

25% damage buff isn't that scary

[summer cliff]

At least false bishop isn't genuine bs 🥹

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Using magikill as reference for this one

[summer cliff]

Easy to tell honestly

At least it isn't BS 🥹

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Bro thinking I'll let it slide even at the most smallest spot

U ain't run anywhere lil bro

[summer cliff]

Also fix the cost of luminaire

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Might making it 200 gold, 300 mana instead

[summer cliff]

You wrote 300 gold and 100 gold instead of 300 gold and 100 mana

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Ok wait

@summer cliff there

lmao

[summer cliff]

Now I won't say anything to avoid accidentally making it broken OP again

Nerf the twin blades tho

Fcking shadowrath level of power for the cost of 2 swords

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Imma just torn its damage to 10

Like its original idea

[summer cliff]

That only brings the damage from 32 to 30

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10 damage + 30% spread 🗣️🗣️

[summer cliff]

Okay that's good

The goddamn cost tho

Still too cheap for the damage it can output

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Might make it little expensive than archer

Maybe 350 gold?

[summer cliff]

400

Don't forget the ability

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Bruh

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hmm.... 17 damage?

[summer cliff]

That's still 51 damage

Nerf to 13

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that's too damn low bruh

[summer cliff]

It's not

On the spot 39 damage just from an ability is good

Especially since the unit itself has good damage output + is cheap

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bruh ok

next 3 phantom unit gonna be heavy unit

yippee

more broken stuff

[summer cliff]

I'm already scared

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https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[summer cliff]

Stop celebrating

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No

@summer cliff 6th unit gonna be giant

But able to charge foward like juggerknight

[surreal mantle]

the Phantom empire you say

interesting.

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its kinda funi since herald and me literally make new "empire"

but need some clearance from him cuz i can't make it myself

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the funny part for me is the fact

if you saw any of the posts I made. you probably know of phasma.

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later tho

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-# custom kingdom/empire which has most of the units I made so far

no no.

the important part is.

the inhabitants of phasma are creatures called phantoms.

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well um...

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so yeah.

a conundrum

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phantom in here is like, how do i put this??
they're half demon, half human like creature

sometimes even hollow

[surreal mantle]

the phantoms inhabitng phasma are something of the sort. more of their own creature but they all come from humans/humanoid beings

-# because the main way a phantom of phasma's is made is by another one turning them

but yea good thing I had the distinction of the kingdom's name lol

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You do realize that for this exact reason the species' full name is "Dark phantoms" correct?

[surreal mantle]

yes but that's edgy as hell.

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How else would you describe them?

[surreal mantle]

I dunno man you made them

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You're the one who wrote me and them into existence.

[surreal mantle]

good point.

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phantom in this post are referred order and chaos hybrid, some still can be considered human and some can't be exactly human

[fleet fractal]

I was referring to the phantoms of phasma.

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ik dude

[surreal mantle]

interesting

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still waiting @drifting gazelle for this shitty- post

[surreal mantle]

yeah phasma's phantoms or "the dark phantoms" are just their own thing

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but i'm mention this post, not the one u make it

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I didnt make them. He did.

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off-topic

anyways.

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honestly idk why but my brain is thoroughly fried. the idea's for the units are cool.

but yea it is strong.

the dps on twin blade is crazy

for 350 gold

and the false bishop is just a knock-off magikill

that's the one I like the least.

it's just a weaker less expensive magikill

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scissors goes

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https://tenor.com/view/scissoring-scissor-fight-scissors-gif-3378634157756152151

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yea but it doesn't need like

22 DPS

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i mean why not, i'm tired seeing spearton anywhere

[surreal mantle]

Speartons need to be nerfed. we don't need to make new op units to counter them.

if you're tired of seeing Speartons then suggest a nerf for em

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waiting spearton nerf is like waiting archer/kytchu nerfed

even if i suggest the nerf

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we know it'll never happen

but at the same time

we know nothing from here will ever be actually added.

-# unless the devs thought of it first

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@carmine cargo @light rock

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My wifi so garbo it can't load in the text

[light rock]

Hellooo

Luminare is meric but small AOE heal effectively and slight dmg buff

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Twin blades are much dps, 30% spread on top of 4 aoe is insane!!!! 4 aoe x 3 30% splash is like 12 total perice

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False bishop: magikill without minions and half DPSZ with minor suport capabilities

All in all pretty balanced if ignoring twin blades

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Does festive parrade stack with rage

I'm gonna kill you digitally

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No.

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Luminaire sound weak at first

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Since festive parrade act like "unique buff"

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It doesn't stack with rage spell

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I'm gonna disect a live specimen

Anyways luminaire is balanced

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Although

U have to stay on the buff radius

Otherwise it stays inactive

(need player uc for activate festive parrade lmao)

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Does it even matter when you're using melee deck, you're always close to em

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Luminaire + Twin blade

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Twinblade splash is fcked

):<

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I mean, why not?

[carmine cargo]

39 damage ability

It's already better than shadows

Twin blade needs nerf on hp, that's all

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Bruh

I mean they're preferably on front

[carmine cargo]

They can tank and do hell dps

What else

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But hey its ground unit, u still able to kill them

[carmine cargo]

False bishop is a cheaper and worse version of magikills.
For 6 pop they are not worth it

It's so garbage one magikill could solo 3 of them

350 mana for what?
To be regurgitated by any unit ever

I'm free to insult this unit as much as I can

It's name is actually factual, this sht is a fraud at it's job and gets overpayed

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Blud really testing me for make this unit broken

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I'm not asking for it to be broken, I'm asking for it to be worth it
It lied on it's job application

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Lmao

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Yknow wat i'm making second ability for the false bishop

And it pull multiple unit foward

[carmine cargo]

Make it 3 max and I'm gonna respect this unit more

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It is 3

What else u expect?

[carmine cargo]

10, coming from you I assume a higher number
I still remember them

Or those

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Making unit is like i'm going easy

But making general or bossfight, don't expect i making it forgiving to player

[carmine cargo]

Game is challengin, so why not make it unforgiving :)
This is saga, not legacy

[drifting gazelle]

Sorry I was at school

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Give me time to edit this post

After i finished i ping u

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Tp to top

I think I can help with lore and balancing

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@drifting gazelle done btw

[drifting gazelle]

Ok

[drifting gazelle]

Ok so are we basically gonna collab?

[carmine cargo]

Rynn and Herald of Nagash collab 😱

This post is gonna be lit 🔥

[drifting gazelle]

I don't know
It's not confirmed yet basically
But I have Some ideas

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Maybe.

[drifting gazelle]

Hmmm

Lemme check the units first to check the theming

Luminaire is one of the most unique support units I've seen yet
And it's decent too
Twin blades are good for dps and really good early game

False bishop is an interesting damage support

Hmmm

All of them are balanced from what I could see

[carmine cargo]

I listen to my superiors
But I'm still not going to leave false bishop alone as being "balanced", unless I'm convinced enough

[drifting gazelle]

The units seem to be themed on the victorian era for some reason

[drifting gazelle]

For the price it's a worse magikill
I'd argue it might need a buff

[carmine cargo]

YES

[drifting gazelle]

Maybe 10 more damage on the damage ability
Also we need more descriptions on stuff
Does twin blades deal 10 damage to 4 units?
What's the aoe on false bishop's abilities etc

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Twin blade deal 10 damage on single unit however 3 damage to other 3 unit
False bishop aoe are legit similar with magikill

[carmine cargo]

Glacial magikill

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@carmine cargo @drifting gazelle made unique mechanic on false bishop
Before u actually pull the unit, u have to target 3 unit first lmao

[drifting gazelle]

Ok
I think false bishop needs a buff to the damage
Maybe higher than magikill to give it some compensation

[carmine cargo]

Fast hands gets the advantage 🗣️

[drifting gazelle]

So you have to damage em and then you can pull em

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not really have to damaged them first

just lock them on circle

then pull

[carmine cargo]

Magikills cost just 4 more bags than it smh

[carmine cargo]

False bishop would be too similiar to magikills, they deal massive aoe damage and also delay enemy units?

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given updated bleed status effect

so bleed itself didn't truly depletes enemy unit by 1 hp

but rather

convert any heal value to 1hp

so like

imagine meric heal is 15

but your unit have bleed status

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then your unit only recieve 1 hp heal

@carmine cargo @drifting gazelle how about it?

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yeah so bleed isn't work like poison or volt

but makes enemy healing source weaker

[carmine cargo]

Overpowered with poison

:v

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i mean

those 3 are based on

[carmine cargo]

Especially with voltaic

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rose thorn

@summer cliff lucky you, since herald actually thinking of collabing with me

can't make broken stuff without consent if i really collab with herald

😭

[drifting gazelle]

Hey I can be damage control for you if things go horribly wrong

Also I'm more fun over practicality kinda guy
I make faction ideas, general ideas each with their own fan fiction tied to them in some sense

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cool

[surreal mantle]

I read festive parade as "fist parade"

which could or could not have given me an idea.

[summer cliff]

Huh???

[drifting gazelle]

Whatever floats your boat I guess

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...nevermind

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I'm probs gonna make it the name of an ability or smth