#Kai rider(Yeah unoriginal idea I know)

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mellow veldt
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Upgrade
Kai mount
Unlocks at temple 2
Costs 1000 gold to purchase a Kai mount
Kai mount hp:700
Training time:35 seconds

The Kai rider
Chaos,heavy,magic,dead,general
Population:15
Hp:950
Damage:40(+15 against heavy)3 units per hit
Attack speed:Giant
Attack range:Giant
Movement: Giant
Abilities
Hell fist
Cooldown:30 seconds
Hellfist now goes in two bursts
The first one is your normal hellfist
The second one is a giant fist rising up and dealing 40 damage to 5 units in a fulminate aoe radius
It will stun three of the five units hit
You can also aim it like fulminate too

Summon
Cooldown:25 seconds
Smashes the ground dealing 20 damage to 4 units and then summons 7 deads

Reap
Cooldown:25 seconds
Reaps a unit of your choosing
Aka you can tap on which unit to reap

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The marrowkai aura will still siphon the hp from nearby deads but it will heal them after 7 seconds
After the Kai rider dies marrowkai falls off taking 200 damage and getting stunned for 3 seconds

You can summon the Kai mount only to act as a worse chaos giant with only 25 damage
The Kai mount will go towards marrowkai if it is out of combat

The marrowkai mounting the Kai mount takes 3 seconds

Also some stuff to know because there's wasn't enough space
Summon has a 1 second delay before the mount smashes the ground
The animation takes 2.5 seconds in total
1 for the ground smash
1 for the summoning
And 0.5 for standing back up

Hellfist works like this
You first use the hellfist as normal but after 2 seconds the second burst with the giant fist will come out
You can aim where it will come out and there will be a red circle on the ground to notify where the fist will rise

The hellfist animation is now longer as well
It takes 1.5 second to kneel and cast normal hellfist
And the second one will come up as the giant stands back up
For reap it's the same duration to use it

Also if the Kai mount is already damaged
For example it had lost 250 hp while fighting and only has 450 hp now
After getting mounted by marrowkai the Kai rider will have 950 hp-(the amount of hp the Kai mount had lost)

Marrowkai will also have voicelines
When using summon
"Arise!"
While mounting the giant
"This won't take long"
After mounting the giant
"Your ends are near!"
After mounting a near death Kai mount
"Loyal servant rise up!"
While hellfist second burst is being charged up
"Infernum Pugno Primus"
After the Kai rider gets killed
"A minor setback!"

raw kayak
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900c and 1000g for kai mount in total
Nice
Hp 700 is good, honestly don't find anything wrong but I'm a little skeptical about it, maybe buff to 750 or nerf to 650
So this is just a more chaotic version of catapult egiant except it's chaos and melee, honestly a nice breathe of fresh air.
Training time is acceptable, since it would be hella hard to win with you only getting this in high mid game to late game.
15 pop is crazy work, though I guess acceptable.. Or not, I suggest buffing it.
I guess marrowkai gives him extra 200 hp when he gets on xD
standard giant stuff okay.
Dspam marrowkai gets even better with that hellfist and crazy summon, kai mount doesn't need mono but holy sht will you need it cuz marrowkai is gonna be impossible to escape out of a situation where he gets stunned and slowed for a whole 5s each, making it 10s of suffering 😭

carmine tundra
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and not a general or upgrade

raw kayak
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Honestly making it mythic won't affect how most decks that use marrowkai work :v

mellow veldt
raw kayak
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Though I guess it leaves BB Tdeads hanging

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We still have Volt Tdeads

carmine tundra
mellow veldt
carmine tundra
raw kayak
carmine tundra
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wait then why would you combine the health

mellow veldt
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Marrowkai has 400 hp btw

carmine tundra
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so the Kai rider has 700 health by normal

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And if marrowkai joins him it jumps to 950

mellow veldt
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No
You're confusing the mount with the rider

raw kayak
carmine tundra
mellow veldt
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Mount is only the giant
Rider has marrowkai riding the giant

carmine tundra
mellow veldt
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Mount will do nothing but sit near the statue
Basically being an arrow shield

raw kayak
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The stun and slow down is too much

carmine tundra
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it's still mount but the only thing diffirent is it becomes smart and has marrowkai abilities

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oh and it's tankier too ig

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skmehow

mellow veldt
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Tankier because the marrowkai enhances it's abilities slightly

carmine tundra
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I thought you just combined both of their health

mellow veldt
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I wanted to write lore but I just forgot

carmine tundra
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does he get affected by monstrosity

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the mount

mellow veldt
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Yes

raw kayak
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He does

carmine tundra
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Okay that's pretty fair

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though the mount is only made for Kai so

raw kayak
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Though it's gonna take like 3 slots of your deck-

carmine tundra
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There's no reason to use him in other decks

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other than being

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a shield

raw kayak
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It's not gonna be worth smh

mellow veldt
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I mean....
Pike also relies on having spears

carmine tundra
carmine tundra
mellow veldt
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Yeah this is an upgrade too

raw kayak
mellow veldt
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Wait did you even read this void?

carmine tundra
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I only read the stats rq

mellow veldt
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Read everything lol

carmine tundra
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Wait wtf??

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So you need to get temple II

mellow veldt
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Yeah

carmine tundra
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then you can use the upgrade to bug a mount

mellow veldt
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Yeah

carmine tundra
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so it's just getting a unit but with extra steps

mellow veldt
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Maybe I'll make it the strongest general stat wise to make it worth

carmine tundra
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or getting a general but it's just harder

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just make the mount slightly more useful even without kau

raw kayak
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You can rush temple out but would it even be worth the wait, the mount gives marrowkai basically more hp and makes him slower in general too

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The summon is what makes it good honestly

mellow veldt
carmine tundra
mellow veldt
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I'm on 5% right now
I'll be back once i can charge my phone back

raw kayak
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I'll wait

carmine tundra
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so in total this dude requires about 700 crystals

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more than 1 Minute worth of waiting time

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and then an additional 1k gold with 35s more waiting time

raw kayak
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900 crystals you mean

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Without brilliance ofc

carmine tundra
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but yeah

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900/1000 cost with like nearly two minutes of waiting time to fully get

raw kayak
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675 with brilliance, so it's close

raw kayak
carmine tundra
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brah

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also that's just the mount itself

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If you combine the marrowkai

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that's 1,300 Crystals, 1,400 gold, and nearly 4 minutes of waiting time for the full rider

carmine tundra
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you wait for the mount to finish before the Kai does

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But if you train them both at the same time once you unlock the mount it would take just about 50 secs

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To get the rider

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wait

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ok so yeah just that

raw kayak
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Brilliance makes the costs even lower so it costs about 975c 1,300g instead

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Still pretty expensive

pallid ibex
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Comparing this to other Kai rider posts

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This is basic af

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I'd say legacy Kai rider has more to it due to increasing amount of deads per summon

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Majority of gimmicks of this Kai rider is when getting it and losing it

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And all of it serves as downsides than anything

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We get the same hellfist, fixed summon, same real, and attack who is more similar to Cgiant than legacy Kai rider

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pallid ibex
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I guess it's basically a cheaper giant

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But Marrowkai gets involved just because it's his property

pallid ibex
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Heck were calling summon as weak or barely enough to be useful(even though I personally disagree)

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I feel like this card can't lift its own weight when compared to Cgiants

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And Marrowkai won't be helping since he can't keep up with the meta either

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I will find this card very niche and use it more because of the cool factor

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Also I feel like when the Kai rider dies, Marrowkai taking 200 dmg is enough for a side effect

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With slow and stun the Kai rider/Marrowkai is being held up a lot for going all in because of the punishment with losing it

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And the thing is this Kai rider isn't even that big of a deal for 2 card slots

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So yeah, too much downsides and with a lack of useful gimmicks

unkempt flame
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hi peoples

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im trapped again

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alzo i like idea

mellow veldt
pallid ibex
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Take your time

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Time is gold
-golden Spearton probably

mellow veldt
mellow veldt
raw kayak
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Dear god

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I mean-
Deer god ;-;

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This is pretty good now actually, this is a stun machine

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My grammar!! >:(

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I said "this is" twice

mellow veldt
pallid ibex
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Okay, 2nd phase of hellfist is pretty cool

mellow veldt
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I added voicelines

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I feel like reap is too strong though

pallid ibex
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But I'll be saying a complaint that would look like it counteracts my original complaint.

This new Kai rider is too complicated and unpredictable, speaking in the opponent's PoV.
The Kai rider doesn't have the best defense in Legacy, he isn't equipped for direct combat.

This Kai rider heavily punishes the opponent for trying to fight the Kai rider(that's while serving as a powerhouse to its own team so it's serving both as guard and backliner which are 2 opposite things covering each other's weaknesses), hellfist has 2 stuns, summon has stun, even reap has stun, it would appear that ranged units and slow will be the best approach for the Kai rider, and aren't we tired with archidons being the key to everything?

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I'm pretty sure the reap got an unnecessary buff, having three of them isn't 3 times as useful as one reap, it's more of a gigantic middle finger to the opponent really

mellow veldt
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I'll nerf reap only

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Because the amount of investments you need to have to even get this is crazy

pallid ibex
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Summon stun is also questionable, that ability is supposed to leave Kai rider vulnerable, yet it got a buff that basically covers that's so whats the point?

mellow veldt
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First you need 400,400 for marrowkai
Then you upgrade temple twice to even unlock it
And then you have to train the mount

pallid ibex
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Tbh I'm not complaining about the price

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Because you still have a Marrowkai and a giant

mellow veldt
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I'll remove the stun from summon
The real will get nerfed
And I think I left the stun accidentally

pallid ibex
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It's just that I don't want the a player Kai rider being similar to a stand-alone boss

mellow veldt
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Hey you just gave me a boss fight idea

pallid ibex
mellow veldt
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How about the voicelines

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Do they fit marrowkai?

pallid ibex
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Royally messed up & might not as well mount it are quite cringe

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Also "impossible"

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Those 3 lines are for bossfight Kai rider