OverNerf trashu (I'm not sorry)

[modest imp]

kytchu or Trashu or as very known as Bitchu- nerf

States changes!
300 HP >>> 250
25+10H >>> 15 (H10)
15 seconds dodge (requires armory 1)
25 seconds volley | now needs (forge 2)
Jugger Knight movement speed
Normal hitbox
Archer/eclipsor range

Volley new mechanics cus why not
She now need 7 Archer to do volley forcing the player to get 7 archers!
insert evil laugh

@weak abyss I feel Evil

[glad leaf]

Wdym

That's the best nerfed stats I have even seen

[weak abyss]

The damage was overnerfed, the other nerfs are fine

[modest imp]

I tried to make it to more like the *Lore accurate * as what CJ call his game

[glad leaf]

Just make it unable to kill miners with 2 hits

[weak abyss]

Also, unrelated question, but should I delete miner upgrade or should I rework it into an upgrade card with a new mechanic that buffs the HP, damage, and movement speed of both miners in my next balance changes post?

[modest imp]

Miner Upgrade is just bastion but worse

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Balanced now nerf speartons

[modest imp]

make their attack speed more like juggs

Done!

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Atreyos with an army of speartons:

[modest imp]

JuggerTwins stand in-

[weak abyss]

That's why I asked that question, should I remove it or completely rework it into something different that would still count as a "miner upgrade"?

[modest imp]

Eh... remove it

[safe loom]

The juggerknight movement speed is funny

[weak abyss]

Sure

[safe loom]

But honestly it'll just make people confused

And uncomfortable

But ofcourse this is better than current kytchu

[weak abyss]

Also what should I do about smithy? Nerf to 20%, 15%, or 18%? Btw I'll also be nerfing the gold on kill to 15 on light units and 30 on heavy units

[modest imp]

Archis: "You were lucky once Kytchu...Never again."
nerfs her damage and HP and movement speed cus she's an annoying insect

[modest imp]

15%

[safe loom]

REAL

[glad leaf]

Well done now she is not breaking the game

[modest imp]

Make Eco units 20 gold

Cus That will be unfair for O miner 💀

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15%

[weak abyss]

That feels like too much of a nerf tbh

[weak abyss]

Oh yeah

[glad leaf]

Now remove enchanted pike

[modest imp]

Bigger Axe-

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Better

[modest imp]

I'm making counterpart now 🔥

[glad leaf]

💀

[weak abyss]

I also want to nerf smithy to 15%, but with the passive income upgrade and the bastion upgrade being better in my balance changes, I don't really know if that'll be a good idea, since eco cards will be less needed

[glad leaf]

Even if atreyos had the same stats of spearos he will always be strong

[weak abyss]

Only the HP and damage or the cost too?

[glad leaf]

Balanced

[modest imp]

From what I learned in my SE play and Rip-off SE decks... This card should be nerfed as hell

[weak abyss]

Fair enough

[glad leaf]

Everything

[weak abyss]

Then that's not atreyos anymore, that's just spearos 2.0

[modest imp]

Eco cards are just annoying if you don't have one while your enemy have it and half of your units are just sacrifice and light units 💀

[glad leaf]

Ye

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Real

[weak abyss]

Also that would kinda be a buff to atreyos lol (if we don't change his abilities)

[modest imp]

Just make Atreyos price as Giant

[glad leaf]

That won't change a lot I think

[weak abyss]

He'd be cheaper, and with a more mana-focused cost, getting forge and armory would be easier + being able to afford more spears at the start

[modest imp]

should I change something in that to make it More Lore accurate

[glad leaf]

Broken:📈📈📈📈

Hmmm

Kill her

[modest imp]

bows exists to be against light
kytchu just flipped the bow and now it can deal high damage to heavies

🔥

[glad leaf]

Real 💀

[weak abyss]

The only major downside would be being unable to kill archers in 2 hits, but that could easily be solved with volt armor + spearspam with volt armor is a menace to other melee decks too

[glad leaf]

Is there something that can counter an army of speartons with ATREYOS and best upgrades (not flying)

[weak abyss]

And spearcher decks usually don't have vamp anymore, so even a single spear could be danger by spreading volt spark which would be more total damage and the instant incineration of a few archers with a single lightning storm

[weak abyss]

Castle archers

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To counter

[weak abyss]

Yes

CA absolutely murders spearspam

[glad leaf]

The opponent won't be that stupid anyways

[modest imp]

only if the enemy is too smart and put 1 Spearton near the CA to counter the splash damage

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[weak abyss]

I've lost multiple matches with spearspam even though I 100% should've won just because castle archers completely shredded my spears

[modest imp]

But the CA is still strong against that (not like CD )

[modest imp]

Don't sacrifice a lot of spears in 1 attack

[glad leaf]

Hmmm

[weak abyss]

In an attack, if the enemy units are garrisoned before you get to their base, your army will take a fck ton of damage before the battle even starts

[modest imp]

Sent from tower like 3 at least with stand in from your base to enemy base and that is very weird ability

[weak abyss]

When SD is near and your statue is getting low on HP, there's really no other choice

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This guy ?

[modest imp]

Fair

[modest imp]

No

The normal CA in game damages 25

if I remember good

[weak abyss]

That's the castle archer upgrade, I'm talking about just castle archers

[weak abyss]

15+10H with splash damage

[modest imp]

Yeah!

so I'm kinda right :D

[glad leaf]

Hmm I use sickles..

[glad leaf]

Yes

[weak abyss]

Which can go up to 51 damage per hit

Without bastion

[modest imp]

💀

I never used Order too much so IDK

[glad leaf]

And with bastion ?

[modest imp]

bastion gives more damage (including CD )

[glad leaf]

Ye what about castle dead

[modest imp]

I they damage less than CA

by 5 I guess

[weak abyss]

Bastion 1: 56
Bastion 2: 59

I'm pretty damn sure I just miscalculated something

[glad leaf]

Ok now rework spears

[modest imp]

doesn't matter it's still high damage

[modest imp]

make their attack speed as Juggs attack speed

Atreyos ability needs reword or nerf or JuggerTwins have the same ability

Counterpart

[glad leaf]

I had an army of toxic deads and hhw and I lost to ATREYOS and speartons army with speartons spawn

[glad leaf]

Do u think CJ would give us the juggertwins?

[modest imp]

He said they will be a card