balance changes 2 units

[true lodge]

Ominers:
Just a passive 1 damage resistance against everything, including status effects, and a passive cure that happens 3 ticks later than chaos cure

Archers:
Damage to 9+6L

Eclipsors:
HP to 90
Movement speed to in-between juggs (reworked) and normal speed
Damage to 14+4L

Juggs:
+3 damage against heavies on charge
Can turn around in the first 35% of their attack animation
A little bit faster movement speed, like just +6%

Spears:
Attack speed during block to 1.3725 seconds (25% attack speed decrease, down to 7.28/10.92 DPS)

Ripps:
Hitbox decreased by 8%
Splash decreased to 30%

Swords:
Leap hitbox size increase

Crawlers:
Pop to 2
Training time to 10
Cost to 100
HP to 55
Attack speed to 1.2 attacks per second
Damage to 5
Hitbox increased by 30%
Movement speed decreased to 15% faster than bomber
Takes 10% more knockback
12% more attack range

[reef eagle]

CRAWLER NERF

NO

Ominers: ehh maybe just the resistance

Not the cure

Archers:

Eclip: 100 hp other wise
Jugg: 18 sec training speed only change iaprove of is charge damage

Spear maybe make blocking and unblocking slower

[true lodge]

It's a rework, it makes them better while also nerfing them

The 2 other tanks got training time nerfs too

The ominer cure is for making them not need to garrison when poisoned

Actually, with the poison rework/nerf I'm thinking off, yeah the cure is kinda too much

Also why no to the other jugg changes?

[reef eagle]

I took a quick glance and all i disaprove of is the training nerf and move speed buff,

Didnt see swords or ripp reworks holdup

For those two

[true lodge]

Btw check balance changes 1

[reef eagle]

👍

[true lodge]

Okay, what about the spear training time nerf?

[reef eagle]

Ik just overall i see it as anerf

[true lodge]

Cuz it is

[reef eagle]

I approve making them same build time

[true lodge]

It nerfs them, BUT it gives them better training time efficiency

[reef eagle]

Ehhh

2 pop is the biggest thing

[true lodge]

Uh, they already have the same training time

[reef eagle]

Oh

[true lodge]

So uh

[true lodge]

Keep spear training time as 18 and revert juggs back to 17, or revert both back to 17, or keep both as 18?

[reef eagle]

Revert both

[true lodge]

Okay

Then I'll revert the ripp training time nerf too

[opaque spruce]

Crawlers don’t need a nerf. A sickle can easily beat a crawler, so naturally it should cost less.

[true lodge]

Crawlers need a nerf, so I nerfed them, but in exchange I buffed the thing they were lacking in

[errant lotus]

all fun until they have both crawler and bomber

[young sinew]

Eclipsors need extra health because of how archers can hit them as they retreat, so if they have less hp they have zero chance of retreating against most armies

[young sinew]

Literally a slightly faster weaker sicklewrath, it’s just outcompeted by sickles, why pay 25 more gold for less damage and a minuscule speed buff that doesn’t help catch retreating armies anymore

[young sinew]

They are better at things sickle is already good at, they become to similar and lose the unique appeal they have

[young sinew]

Hear me out, no passive cure, but 50% more storage space, and 10% better mining speed, but e miners are faster walking and have cure

It separates the simularities between them

Eminers have better survivability and can retreat much better, but Ominers are much more vulnerable in exchange for a bigger reward

I really like the archidon nerd though

It stops spearcher from being so op while not ruining archidon viability by making archidons not so much yank breakers and better for damage removal

Making toxics a more viable choice for a spearcher type army, which stops the hit and run strategy to ruin your tanks before combat

And gives eclipsors a good inbetween ground that helps balance its high price , thought the eclipsors should probably also be considered a heavy unit because of the hp lowering because now they are super vulnerable to archidons

Considering how they get sniped in retreat due to lower speed, the new archidon rebalance would make eclipsors die in 6 hits, which means as long as you have more than 5 archidons you can pick them off very easily with frost arrows

[true lodge]

Don't forget their spammablity, also I completely reworked sickles in balance changes 3

[true lodge]

That would just nerf them, also, even with 90 HP, eclipsors will still have high survivability

[young sinew]

How would that nerf them

[true lodge]

Heavy queue

[young sinew]

Your right

[true lodge]

Also check out the other posts too

[urban yarrow]

Eclipsors are light (SE)

[urban yarrow]

so even my nerf to them is good?

[true lodge]

Ye

[urban yarrow]