#Cloakers

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gray bay
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Tags: Phasma/Light

Description: High health, Low damage assassin units with daggers and an expertise in misdirection

Stats

Cost - 400G 50C

Pop and Training time - 4 Pop, 18S

Health - 160

Damage - 5 (+3H)

Attack speed - 0.75 (6.666 DPS)

Walk speed - Swordwrath

Abilities

Agility (passive) - Reduces damage from arrows by 20%

Focus Strike - Cloakers ready themselves to pounce on enemies. Increasing their run speed to that of a Shadowrath. Once they reach the enemy they will jump over and backstab them. Stunning them for 1 second and forcing the units behind to target the cloaker. Either the second row of melee units or the ranged units. 10 Seconds CD

(give feedback pls)

(this post has been updated 5 times. including a complete overhaul of the idea)

loud hamlet
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This is.. just why?

gray bay
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pretty much a counter to archers.

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actually I should make it have more pop

loud hamlet
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This looks like it was made specifically to dethrone sword/shadowripp as a counter to kytchu

gray bay
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because it'd be a problem if they're able to spam them.

loud hamlet
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The only tank that it doesn't get stopped by is spears.. which is the most common tank used for kytchu decks

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And with a HHW ripp, you can pretty much just destroy an archer stack...

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Is focus strike UC exclusive or can the AI use it automatically?

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nvm I just remembered the AI focusing ranged units part

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Also, remove the mass focus strike

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It makes backline sniping too easy

gray bay
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fair enough.

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I wanted to fix the problem by just making it so they have more pop. but that works too

loud hamlet
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That wouldn't fix the problem, you'd still be able to mass them

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And with simple ripp UC, any kytchu player could say goodbye to every single one of their archers

gray bay
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fair. I'll change that

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(I'll increase their pop aswell for good measure)

loud hamlet
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I feel like this needs a rework

gray bay
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also the idea of making it not be able to be used by AI is to make it so that spears would have a chance to disable the cloaker's ability before they do the pounce attack

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(ahem. fixed a wording mistake)

gray bay
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upped pop and removed mass focus strike

loud hamlet
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Jesus SEVEN POP?!

gray bay
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reduced pop.

loud hamlet
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6 pop is still too much for this

gray bay
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reduced pop even further

loud hamlet
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Also, it takes 20% less damage from specifically arrows or does that include any ranged attack?

gray bay
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im pretty sure all ranged attacks have the properties of arrows so technically it would be from all of them

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though if that isnt the case. it would be that the damage resistance is bypassed by Egiant

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(maybe Tdead too since he's already bullied enough)

arctic yoke
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bad ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

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(this is a joke)

gray bay
gray bay
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this post died

gray bay
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reviving cuz the amount of coverage the post got is criminally low

gray bay
gray bay
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@plucky valley @snow gyro @loud hamlet @grizzled acorn @shut tinsel Them's got completely reworked

shut tinsel
gray bay
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they strong?

gray bay
shut tinsel
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They might survive even after attracting them kekw

gray bay
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yea I shoulda guessed.

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lemme just change that rq.

shut tinsel
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as a unit, meh
As a minion unit for a big golem controlled by a purple guy?
Yes

gray bay
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fair

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but yea they're now more a counter to unit spam rather than just spearcher lol

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(and a very direct ranged mini-tank)

shut tinsel
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Magicloaker new meta bomber_troll

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20% reduction to arrows hmmm..

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So still probably fully affected by tdeads and egiants

gray bay
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but yea they should be.

gray bay
shut tinsel
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This is either balanced or a little strong, it's probably inbetween
Alone it's weak, but combine it with units such as swordspam yuh

gray bay
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I could probably reduce the arrow damage resistance

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a slight bit

shut tinsel
shut tinsel
gray bay
gray bay
shut tinsel
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Thera usage is still pretty though, since deadspam and swordrip exist

gray bay
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yea fair

shut tinsel
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HW so rare indeez

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The only time I ever saw it being used is in bronze

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Anyways 7.5/10
:3

gray bay
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aight

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I gotta go afk to take a shower

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-# and school's near anyways so I'll have to go sooner or later

shut tinsel
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Ok

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Bye bye!

gray bay
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-# today's the first day of monthly exams. wish me luck

shut tinsel
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🙏

snow gyro
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Very gimmicy

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Idk how this would play out

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Its stats are more early game but the cost is very mid hame

gray bay
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honestly it's damage is less the aspect of focus and it's more the health

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it's supposed to be a mini-tank built for soaking up arrows while your actual units deal with it