grab/ attach

[urban oar]

Crawler pasive requires lv1 forge:
Pull an enemy closer per attack. Like jugg knock back in reverse. If 7 grabs are performed on an enemy under 1 second it stuns the enemy

Cralwer lv 2 forge:
Applies 5% slow for 1 second, this stacks. Attacking units from behind applies 10% slow for 2 seconds, this does not stack.
Stacks up to 75% mobility slow.
Stacks up to 25% attack speed slow.

Dead lv1 forge:
Deads can attach onto an enemy and do 50 damage over the span of 10 seconds. The dead dies when performing this attack but the damage is guaranteed. This stacks. UC only.

Tldr: you sacrafice 1 dead for guaranteed 5 dps over 10 seconds on an enemy.

[bleak ridge]

do slow stacks?

for dead forge, I suggest for it to be manual activation but last until the dead is killed, ability deactivated, or triggered successfully

imo the crawler slow should be on dead forge instead

the pull alone is good enough for what is essentially free benefit

[urban oar]

Nope

I wanted to originaly grab to both

One to chase down straglers one to pull enemies into the horde

[bleak ridge]

so literally just 5-10% slow?

[urban oar]

I honestly dont know what to do with the dead attatch if it should be AI or UC because UCing deads is one of the most borring thinga of all time

[urban oar]

If it stacked then it would be a little broken

[bleak ridge]

AI sounds stupid

[urban oar]

Oh yeah

It would be

[bleak ridge]

contradicting the meatshield role of deads

[urban oar]

I know

But its boring gameplay

[bleak ridge]

you onky need UC to activate the ability, then you let the AI do it on their own

[urban oar]

Oh fair

Yeah ill add that

[bleak ridge]

I guess I failed to describe it here

[urban oar]

i also made it so crawler attacking from behind slow doesnt stack but attacking crawler from the front does

[bleak ridge]

what you could do since it stacks, is either reduce the slow effect per hit or add a limit to how much slow a unit can recieve from crawler stacks

withing 20 hits the unit is rendered immobile

[urban oar]

I generaly feel putting a limit anywhere would be annoying but yeah

[bleak ridge]

or another option is to make the slow stack multiplicatively instead of additive, so you can never reach 100% slow, as each stack is -5% from the current unit speed instead of the total unit speed

[urban oar]

For ballance reasons

75% maybe

[bleak ridge]

i mean we have stun immunity

[urban oar]

75% max move speed slow
25% attack speed slow

[bleak ridge]

giants, ripriders, and generals will have a big trouble with this

[urban oar]

Yes

Oh i should probably make it require an enchant? But then again i hate unit exclusive enchant

I feel this gives crawls more of a late game presence butttt alsooo they already do en'mass

[bleak ridge]

I wonder if you can seperate the crawler power between forge 1 and 2

so forge 1 will be weaker but you get the full effect at forge 2

[urban oar]

Oh yeah thats intresting

[bleak ridge]

youd also have more space to make it stronger if needed

since it could be locked behind forge 2

[urban oar]

Done

The slow is lv2

The reverse knock back is lv1

[bleak ridge]

forge 1 is kinda underwhelming

[urban oar]

Pulling enemies into a swarm is scary still

[urban oar]

Well its ontop of the damage increase for yk cralwers from forge this is just a bonus

[bleak ridge]

crawlers don’t get increased dmg from forge 1

[urban oar]

What

Are you serious?

Like are you kidding

[bleak ridge]

they do 4 dmg, +10% thats 4.4, it would be rounded down to 4 again

[urban oar]

Ohhh yes

[bleak ridge]

forge 2 is equal to 4.6 that would be rounded up to 5

[urban oar]

Oh dear

Ive moved the stun to lv1

[bleak ridge]

now all we need to do is wait

[urban oar]

Certainly

[bleak ridge]

did you know hellfist knocks enemies closer to kai?

[urban oar]

Really?

Wow

Intrestimg

[bleak ridge]

wrong description, hellfist knocks enemies closer to your side/garrison, if kai is closer to enemy statue than the enemy, the enemy is knocked away from kai

[urban oar]

Hmm

I wonder what kind of shenanigans can be done with this

[bleak ridge]

stronger crawler grab

prevent enemies from escaping

get magic units to engage in melee

[urban oar]

Oh i mean with kai knockback

[bleak ridge]

yes thats what im talking about

[urban oar]

Oh

Ohh i see what your talking about

Yeah exploit the speed dofference between units

[bleak ridge]

get someone to stay inside reap range

[bleak ridge]

get ranged units closer in range of something, like lets say CA

[urban oar]

@weak raven

@hard blaze