#new speartons abillity

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vestal ember
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To everyone seeing this

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Do not interact with this post

steady flare
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Terrible Spelling = Funi to me for some reason

edgy vapor
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"Abolition" he he funni

livid tree
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Remove

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NOW

normal dome
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Nerf swordwrwth and buff spearton? That’s kinda op considering the fact that spearton is already used a lot and swordwrath not being that good anymore

narrow notch
slim phoenix
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Tf is "abolition"

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Do you mean ability?

north mica
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This ability would be good with Atreyos Only

vestal ember
north mica
livid tree
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I Want to

boreal grotto
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Spear throw as a general ability would be ok

fast salmon
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my main spam doesn’t work anymore

livid tree
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Bad Idea

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Never Cook Again

normal dome
fast salmon
livid tree
normal dome
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Although I think a problem with giving the spearton their legacy abilities back is the fact that it’s kinda op

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Spearton are tanky and i kinda consider them the more defensive type and less dps

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And back then the spear toss was op

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If the spear was maxed it did 800 dmg with a back attack

livid tree
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Spears are defense tank

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Jugg are offense tank

normal dome
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Yeah

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lol there was a trick I used in legacy to do a bunch of damage against other spearton

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Do the headbutt and then spear throw

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So the shield doesn’t block the damage

vestal ember
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Op spears were a nightmare

livid tree
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No

livid tree
normal dome
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I mean giving an already-good unit a projectile is kinda op

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That means spearton can now pursue a unit that’s running away

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And basically a free finishing move

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Ok now that you bring up that I agree

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I may hate spearton but I hate archidons even more

livid tree
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:no

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This is Bad

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bad post

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Worst post ever

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No effort and terribl

normal dome
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Down with the archer empire

livid tree
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What

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This is a Bad Idea

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This Makes Speartons Even More Powerful than they are.

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I Used to Main Speartons with Atreyos, and trust me, they are OP.

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Bruh

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It's OP

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I Summon Neorch

restive lodge
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I'm a chaos player and if speartons got that it so chaos will not be fair

livid tree
normal dome
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Maybe just have the spearton leaders have the ability to throw spears

frigid wing
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I think they will add spear throw soon

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I remember they mentioned it to be for max pike upgrade

empty trout
restive lodge
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they will put giant ability from SWL

restive lodge
vestal ember
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i hate when cj doesnt listen to fans

earnest grotto
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It should be for campaign because spear throwing is rad as hell but super op

livid tree
livid tree
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No

empty trout
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Then what would be the point

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I think the main issue here is that everyone keeps picturing the legacy spear throw when talking about this. Atleast give CJ some credit, he's not the best at balancing but he atleast has enough common sense to nerf something like spear throw and not make it that op.

livid tree
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Make it a Situational Spear Throw

empty trout
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He could just make it a ranged ability that does, let's say, 15+5L damage

livid tree
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OR Spearosthrow

livid tree
empty trout
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What? Normally that'd be too little cuz it's a spear through your skull

empty trout
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Same as jugg charge

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Better yet, make it 60s

livid tree
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CJ pls no

normal dome
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Make it so that it’s very situational rather than a good option to use a lot of the time

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Or make it limited to a boss character

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Probably give it do the not-ice spearton boss cuz the ice one is already better

empty trout
# normal dome We should probably make spear throw either do the same damage or less as a norma...

Wouldn't make sense in this case, it's a fast moving object heading straight to your skull, why would it do less dmg than normal. It'd be better if they just made it do the same as base dmg when used up close, and do more damage when it actually reaches a certain distance. But I'll say this though, making it a general exclusive ability is stupid. It was already confirmed to be the 3rd level of the pike upgrade, so even the devs know how stupid that sounds.

normal dome
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You’d think that being fire or poisoned would be more lethal than what they already are

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The game doesn’t have to be exactly realistic

normal dome
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I’m not sure if this is right but doesn’t the spearton’s normal attack hits the opponent’s groin?

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Catastrophic damage

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No recovering from that

empty trout
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You're underestimating what the devs can do

normal dome
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Hehe yes

empty trout
# normal dome For balancing reasons

Even in a balancing sense it wouldn't make sense, it's just a ranged ability that can be used to stop retreating units. You can't even choose where to throw it, just which direction.

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It's not just the ability alone that should be considered when balancing it, the cooldown and way to get it too

normal dome
empty trout
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Mf that's legacy spear throw

normal dome
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Oh

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So the damage would be a little more than a normal spearton’s attack?

empty trout
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Spears in this game do 10+5L, I suggested to make spear throw do the same damage when it hits a target that's close and do 15+5L when it hits a target from a distance

normal dome
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More damage over distance?

empty trout
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That way it can't be used the same as legacy spear throw, it'll suck as an assassination ability, but still be good to stop retreating units

normal dome
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The only problem I see with the spear throw is how when entering combat, the spearton can throw the spear first

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It would beat swordwrath

empty trout
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They don't need to, shadowrath don't use parry automatically

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They can just make spear throw the same

normal dome
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Ok

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Maybe have a crap ton of end lag or something

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Reduces the chances of weird spear throw gimmicks that drive people crazy

empty trout
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Even if they don't go along with the idea (100% sure they won't), the devs will most definitely not just copy and paste whatever legacy spear throw is, they'll atleast be smart enough to nerf it to the ground or rework it to not be super op first

normal dome
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Yeah

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Also if we do add this into sw3, will the ai do it by itself?

empty trout
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Guessing not, since it's already a ranged ability for a tank they might make it like parry or catapult mode, can only be used when user controlling the unit

normal dome
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Yea

empty trout
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That'd also mean we won't be able to fight spear throwing spears in singleplayer though, which is sad but fair

normal dome
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Imagine the cpu chucking spears like crazy at you

narrow notch
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Scorch.

ornate tendon
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is bro serious with this

normal dome
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Have a unit specifically designed to kill archidon

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I mean there’s a spell that blocks projectiles

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I think there’s a reason for that

restive lodge
normal dome
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Oh yeah

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Wait marrowkai doesn’t

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He has one move that knocks them over

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And then he has a long cooldown

restive lodge
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with poison

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he be dangerous (not against vamp)

normal dome
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Yeah

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The poison makes it dangerous to basically just archers and swordwrath

restive lodge
normal dome
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Yeah

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lol the monkeys die instantly

vestal ember
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Step 1: skill
Step 1.5 (if you fail): scorch/ squall/ thunder

steep musk
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Speartons already op and atrayos got 2 abilities no way hes getting a third

slim phoenix
ornate tendon
empty trout
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There are already a lot of things that can kill them

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Was that really the entire point of this post dead_serious

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Bombers, scorch, squall, PB, acid rain, etc.

normal dome
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Maybe just lower archer’s run speed

normal dome
ornate tendon
normal dome
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Oh

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Aw man

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Having to move the units myself

ornate tendon
normal dome
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Yeah wouldn’t be good for unit design

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But I meant like a unit with a gimmick that also helps against fighting against archidons

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I guess merrics maybe?

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They have a projectile shield you can abuse

slim phoenix
normal dome
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Yeah but having a lot of any unit is a high dps

slim phoenix
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Their DPS can match up to melee damage dealers despite being ranged and having far more survivability

normal dome
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Ye that gets annoying

restive lodge
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But Chaos is good😭

slim phoenix
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"nobody spends 150 crystals to kill a single archidon"

Tesla users

empty trout
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Lightning Storm users dead_serious

cunning agate
vestal ember
slim phoenix
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Crawler users legit use LS as anti-archidons when crawlers can fight archers by themselves

vestal ember
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Its hurts because jts true

restive lodge
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I don't use spells, just sent bombers and juggs bomber_troll

boreal grotto
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3 crawlers beat one archidon
When it gets to like 6 crawlers unless you have 1 row of archidons you are screwed

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Even then they will deal a nice amount of damage

cunning agate
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bombers: bomber_troll

boreal grotto
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Bomber side pass is so good when combined with tt

normal dome
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honestly bomber seems like those units that you deploy at the beginning of the match and not much in mid game but in actuality, it’s more of the opposite of that

cunning agate
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bombers are good mid-lategame spam against heavy spam

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in fact: even chatgpt me that AoE beats tank spam

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as in they ruin them in seconds, much like sickles in the past

slim phoenix
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Only if you mass up like 10 bombers

normal dome
livid tree
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To fail to kill my archidon

slim phoenix
livid tree
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Then they use the nice try emote

boreal grotto
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Nice

slim phoenix
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Imagine dropping the ultimate "fck archers" and the archers continue living

boreal grotto
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That's like 550 crystals down the trash

livid tree
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They used 600 mana

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To kill

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300 gold

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And failed

slim phoenix
livid tree
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Yep

slim phoenix
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They should've just resigned after that

boreal grotto
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Archer hater

livid tree
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They did nice try emote

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Yay you kept me off tower

boreal grotto
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That's a bastion and a temple gone

livid tree
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Real

boreal grotto
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They would've helped a lot probably

livid tree
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That's 4 archidons worth of mana

slim phoenix
livid tree
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Didn't even kill the onr

boreal grotto
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That's what we call
A fair deal (british)

livid tree
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He used snowsqall late