#shadows and ripps rebalance, ripptor stats, and new chaos unit

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steel kayak
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Shadows:
Attack speed from 0.933 to 0.977 (base DPS from 15 to 14.31/19.43 and max fixate DPS from 31.07/36.42 to 29.65/34.77 + they rack up on fixate slower)
Parry cooldown to 5 seconds

Rippriders:
HP to 575
Hitbox decreased by 8%
Movement speed decreased by 4%
Damage to 15(+8H) (7.5/11 DPS)
Splash damage to 40% (6/14 splash damage)
Cost to 850g

Ripptor:
Chaos/Heavy

HP: same HP as rider
Hitbox/size: 4% smaller than ripprider
Movement speed: same as current ripprider
Damage: 14(+6H)
Aspeed: 1 (14/20 DPS)
Training time: 24 seconds
Cost: 750-800g
Pop: 8

Predator:
Chaos/Light

HP: 175
Damage: 9(+2L)
Aspeed: 0.625 (14.4/17.6)
Mspeed: 6-7% faster than crawler
Cost: 400-450g 150m
Pop: 5
Training time: 19 seconds

Abilities:
Pounce: pounces at the enemy, stunning and dealing 25 damage, 5 seconds cooldown, UC only

Passive:
Fury: gains +2 damage after attacking, max stacks 4, stacks reset 5-6 seconds after not attacking
First stack is gained after 2 attacks
Second stack is gained 3 attacks after first stack
Third stack is gained 2 attacks after second stack
Fourth stack is gained 3 attacks after third stack

In total, 17(+2L) damage on max stacks (27.2/30.4 DPS)

Shadows and predators comparison:
Better survivability - S
Higher DPS - S
Faster speed - P
Consistent DPS - P
Better offense and harassment - P
Better defense and protection - S

Rippriders and ripptors comparison:
Better meatshield - rider
Better against hordes - rider
Better against single targets - ripptor
Keeping up with fast units - ripptor
Overall better DPS mid-late game - rider
Overall better DPS early-mid game - ripptor

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(note: I have no idea what the hell I'm doing)

unkempt moth
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I knew it my bad feeling was right

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Why would you give riders more HP and a smaller hitbox

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It's bad enough they move around

steel kayak
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I nerfed their HP

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By 75-50

unkempt moth
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525-550 that doesn't look right

steel kayak
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And a smaller hitbox makes them worse at being meatshields (which they are currently too good at)

unkempt moth
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The spalsh damage is to high

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40% yikes

steel kayak
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They're AOE beefy damage dealers

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Basically mini giants

unkempt moth
steel kayak
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Being beefy AOE anti-heavy

unkempt moth
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Not to beefy

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80% just from two rip riders

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Now imagine 5-6

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They'd tear thought entire armies

steel kayak
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They'd get torn through too tho

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550 HP for a 8 pop unit isn't that much

unkempt moth
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Ha think again

steel kayak
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Any sort of slow effect would destroy them

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Also heavy units spam is basically unbreakable

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So it wouldn't be surprising if ripprider spam would be powerful

unkempt moth
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It is

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But costly

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If you don't have salv and vop

steel kayak
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Yeah

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Also rippriders now cost 100 gold more

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So, it would kinda fck you over if you don't have good economy but would fck the enemy if you get the eco to keep up with the resource requirement

unkempt moth
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600 gold right

steel kayak
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Rippriders cost 750

unkempt moth
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Oof

steel kayak
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This version costs 850

unkempt moth
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I never used Rips

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Cus they never did much

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And didn't fit my playstyle

steel kayak
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They're good but I prefer juggs and spears

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Their HP per pop is a big turn-off for me

unkempt moth
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Yea

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Juggs need a passive defence

steel kayak
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Nah

unkempt moth
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Yes

steel kayak
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Immortality during charge

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Casually eats 17372 arrows without taking any damage

unkempt moth
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Lol

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sends in a ton of vole Dead behind jugg line

steel kayak
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Jugg pop should be decreased to 5

unkempt moth
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I agree

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Remember when tdeads were 3 pop

steel kayak
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I feel like striker would complain about this post

unkempt moth
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You know it

steel kayak
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Because the units are "too similar"

spice bear
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9.77 attack speed?!?!??

steel kayak
unkempt moth
spice bear
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100 more gold just for 1 extra damage, 1 extra heavy damage, 50 less health, slower movement speed, smaller hitbox, and 20% more splash????

unkempt moth
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Oh boy

steel kayak
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The only thing setting them back is the 8 pop

steel kayak
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@dusky lake coffedusa

dark aspen
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Why the smaller hitbox thou

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They huge

steel kayak
dark aspen
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And..?

spice bear
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Like what I did with HHW

dark aspen
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What is HHW not_xiphosticated

spice bear
dark aspen
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Oh

steel kayak
spice bear
steel kayak
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Okay

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What if I increase their base damage by 1 more and increase the HP to 575?

dark aspen
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What is hp mow?

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Now

steel kayak
steel kayak