Unit Balance Changes

[last mountain]

Sicklewrath

• HP increased from 55 to 70 ⬆
• Damage increased from 5 (+2L) to 6 (+4L) ⬆ dps remains the same
• Splash increased from 40% to 50% ⬆
• Cost increased from 75g to 100g 🔄
• Training time increased from 10s to 11s 🔄

Crawler

• HP increased from 35 to 55 ⬆
• Damage increased from 6 to 9 ⬆ dps remains the same
• Cost increased from 50 to 100 🔄
• Training time increased from 9s to 10s 🔄
• Population increased from 1 to 2 🔄
• Passive ability; pack mentality, each crawler on the battlefield grants +1 damage to crawlers, limit of 4 🆕
• Movement speed to 5% slower than bomber ⬇

Bomber

• can now deal (+3H) damage ⬆
• Population increased from 1 to 2 🔄

Spearton

• Block damage reduction increased to 30% ⬆

Juggerknight

• Charge delay removed 🔄
• Charge now deals the same damage as base damage 🆕

Eclipsor

• HP decreased from 125 to 90 ⬇
• Movement speed increased from slower than juggs to 15% faster than default speed ⬆
• Damage from 15 (+3L) to 12 (+5L) 🔄 dps remains the same
• Training time decreased from 20s to 17s 🔄

Meric

• HP increased from 150 to 200 ⬆
• Added melee, deals 7 damage, aspeed is 1s 🆕
• Heal increased from 15HP to 20HP ⬆
• Bubble duration increased to 5s ⬆
• Bubble now has a certain HP that makes it break before the duration even finishes (50HP) 🆕
• Cost increased from 150g 200m to 200g 200m 🔄

Shadowrath

• Parry no longer requires perfect timing, parry makes the shadowrath's appearance glow where in the next 3s if the shado gets hit, it will parry 🔄
• Upon successful parry, will activate shinobi (invisibility) for 2s 🆕
• Population increased from 5 to 6 🔄

@split hawk @vale stump @idle sparrow

[last mountain]

[wheat oasis]

Giving crawler dmg and health is a nightmare

You know they can dodge everything when UC'ed(excluding ranged units and riprider)

[last mountain]

Speed was nerfed

5% slower than bomber

[idle sparrow]

He decreased their movement. They're now slower than bombs

[wheat oasis]

But still, they can dodge them

[last mountain]

not always

the best spot to dodge em are the top parts of the battlefield

[idle sparrow]

And bombers are good rn. They don't need to do dmg to heavy units, it's a bit unnecessary. The pop change is also unnecessary as it just makes them better CA fuel.

30% block for spears is more deadly than you think

[wheat oasis]

They goanna absorb 20 dmg from Atreyos

[idle sparrow]

Something like that

Sickle and Crawler changes are nice. They're still early game units, just reworked.

I don't use merics much, but heard they were a good healing source, but shit- for curing.

And people often use healing sources for curing

[last mountain]

the heavy damage doesn't really change much, it just makes them a bit better mid game

against frontlines

for the pop change, it doesn't change much since they'll die anyway

only needing 2 bombers for CA is

[last mountain]

should I nerf their damage? speartons seem so offense with pike and stuff

[idle sparrow]

Pike has always been reliant on Atreyos anyways. And Pike is supposed to be for offense, heck it's getting spear throw for lvl3 someday.

[last mountain]

Speartons being better offense than juggs when spear throw comes out:

[idle sparrow]

It'll probably cost 300g and 300m. So getting spear throwing speartons costs 600g and 600m in total.

Juggs become offense for free

[last mountain]

but still

what's stopping people from simply adding pike to their deck

[idle sparrow]

It'll all depend on how they plan on adding spear throw. If they decide to give it minimal damage like 15 and fair range, then it won't be much. If they decide to bring back SWL spear throw, then we're fucked-.

[last mountain]

the high cost, pop, and time:

[warm plaza]

Invisible in 2s is crazy

[last mountain]

it's pretty likely that they will add spear throw exactly like SWL because.. look at how the devs fcked up with proselytism 💀

[warm plaza]

Shouble be 1s/0,7s/0,5s

[last mountain]

the invisibility would end before you even get to do anything because of the animation...

[warm plaza]

How long is the animation?

[last mountain]

[warm plaza]

0,5s seems balance

[last mountain]

tf

is that gonna do

do you have any idea how short 0.5s is

[warm plaza]

Uh

Is like Capture Tower goes up Earlier

[last mountain]

?

[worn grove]

why parry buff

and pop nerf

[split hawk]

Damage increased for crawlers and sickles but DPS stays the same? So you basically nerfed their attack speed, crawlers aspeed has gotten a massive nerf

Eclipsor change makes them worse damage dealers, from 15/18 damage to 12/17 damage

[last mountain]

bruh

that's not what I meant-

[split hawk]

Spearton blocking 30% damage will mean that juggs need a bigger charge buff than that

Bomber change is completely unnecessary and even just bad

Do shadows gain the Shinobi damage or is it just only the invisibility?

Meric change is good, but status effects still disable them

[last mountain]

invis

[split hawk]

Okay

[last mountain]

just wanted to make 'em deal a little more damage if they explode on frontlines instead of backlines

[last mountain]

hm okay

are you kidding me

something is a banned word when I edited it

ok here's the changes:

• crawler "dps remains the same", I meant "aspeed remains the same"
• eclipsor "dps remains the same", I meant " aspeed remains the same
• Juggerknight charge now deals knockback (80% shorter than cgiant knockback)

[split hawk]

👍

[vale stump]

I only fully approve sickle and jugg, the rest are questionable

[vale stump]

atleast they know it and removed it

[stable meteor]

It should be one-time use, in my opinion.

[vale stump]

it would be unavailable once you successfully Prosletyzed someone?

thats kinda too harsh especially when its used against cheap light units

at best, merics can only prosletize one at a time instead of having no limit or being one time use

if merics gets a heal buff would thera aswell? and im pretty sure giving them damage is not good, first 7 damage is too high and second it will get in the way of merics repositioning and skill casting

[worn grove]

i will make my first balance post tonight will balance some units

[white walrus]

Sicklewrath

Crawler
I've been explaining for a long time that we don't need a second Swordwrath

Bomber or
idk, what for is this nerf, they are good

Spearton
I'm tired of seeing this shield ability change. If CJ has made a numerical damage reduction, then it should be

Juggerknight
In this change, juggs stupidly will be worse than speartons. But its not a bad change

Eclipsor

Meric
They don't need a melee attack, it will break their AI

Shadowrath or
idk what to say, but i like the idea

[last mountain]

Crawlers are super fragile and I just want to bring back sw2 crawlers

Bombers are weak mid game so the heavy extra damage is solid

Speartons are getting a block buff because of the jugg's huge buff

Maybe make the merics not naturally use the melee? like how shadowraths never use parry naturally

.

although, yes I can see why some people disagree with my balances

some of them are kinda just... bad

[white walrus]

Crawlers is already fragile rn

+3H damage and 2 pop instead 1? Its a literally nerf

Juggs has not huge buff, player can easily bypass charge and force all juggs to use the ability for 1 dead or sm

So why do they need a melee attack?

[last mountain]

how is bomber a nerf

2 pop doesnt matter as they'll die anyway

• CA fuel

[last mountain]

because in stick empires merics have melee, I worship stick empires.

[white walrus]

I like Eclipsor's and sicklewrath's changes

[split hawk]

Eclipsors are now even worse at damage, yay

[white walrus]

Than its fair enough, i guess, but they don't need to attack foes

[last mountain]

I love seeing my eclipsors getting obliterated while retreating

[white walrus]

He increased their attack speed, as I understood

[split hawk]

This

The attack speed is the same

[last mountain]

then uh

i'll buff aspeed

[white walrus]

Hmm, okay

[white walrus]

Yes

[last mountain]

for some reason I can't edit the post

I just can't.

no matter what I do

[white walrus]

Try to restart discord, maybe

[last mountain]

.

[split hawk]

Discord being wack again

[white walrus]

I wanted to let you know that I've been visiting the SW3 server less lately because I'm kind of tired of these ideas, like changing the appearance of juggs, or trying to balance units from people who don't know much about it. There are few interesting ideas, a lot of the same type, so I will leave a maximum of a little couple of messages on the posts sometimes, but no more

[last mountain]

fair.

fan ideas forum has been quite dead lately

[white walrus]

Yes

[jaunty sable]

EVERY ONE IS F_CKING COPYING MY SYSTEM NOW

What are you going to do next?

Put why you made that change in italics?

[jaunty sable]

Sicklewrath change: This is just making them way too much like swordwrath for no reason.
Crawler change: Only if you decrease that damage.
Bomber: 3 bonus heavy damage is terrible.
Spearton: It will only be better against giants, rippriders, juggs, other things that have high damage. Will make the spear also block less in early game against stuff like deads, sickles (without this rework), and crawlers (without this rework).
Juggerknight: Does not really change the game that much so sure.
Eclipsor: And people say that I nerfed HHW wisp too much. You just chose nuclear option for eclipsor.
Meric: 50 health on the bubble is terrible. Attack damage is meh (stronger then archidon) The healing buff is nice

@carmine jacinth Look at my posts and you will see

(https://discord.com/channels/555057405080371210/1218666796240863353)

[cursive abyss]

55 to 70... no

[nimble hearth]

Personally, these are the only changes that I’m fine with :

[last mountain]

I already used emojis to indicate their changes before I saw yours

.

and for some reason I cant edit my fcking post so.... rip my chat being just about people criticizing my post

[last mountain]

what's wrong with using templates? most people used my template which is:

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