Stone Giant

[worn sparrow]

Not sure if people have made the Stone Giant here as a unit so here is my interpretation on how a Stone Giant can be implemented here.

Type: Chaos, Giant, Heavy, Dead

Gold: 1750

HP: 1500

DPS: 25 (Hits only one target)

Speed: Same as Giants

Population: 10

Training speed: 40 seconds

Lore: A remnant of the giants who fought in the first Great War. Resurrected to now fight against the Order Empire, using statues of the old as Armor and Shield to protect it's decaying body.

Passive Abilities: Reduces damage taken from Light units by 20% and Heavy Units by 10%

Active Ability:

Taunt: The Stone Giant kneels down, roars and bashes it's broken shield, taunting all nearby enemy units to attack the Giant for 10 seconds. The Stone Giant cannot move during this period as well.

Cooldown: 60 seconds.

Let me know your thoughts.

@pale thicket @hot verge @dusk gazelle @regal hatch

Just wanted to ping you guys.

[hot verge]

I got here before you managed to ping me

[worn sparrow]

Lol

[hot verge]

Is the 1500 HP the base HP or the RoR HP?

[regal hatch]

looks underpowered

[exotic marlin]

The fact that nobody pings me for stuff anymore shows how little I've been on here now lol

[worn sparrow]

Base HP, there is no RoR for this one.

[hot verge]

I don't think that Stone giant will work as a non-general unit

[exotic marlin]

Anyways this might get added

[worn sparrow]

I'm sorry, new here didn't know u existed

[hot verge]

It has dead tag tho

[regal hatch]

I'm barely active here and got pinged

[exotic marlin]

Nah its fine dw

[exotic marlin]

💀

[worn sparrow]

You don't see Toxic dead being resurrected from Archers though

[hot verge]

2175 HP with monstrosity...

[worn sparrow]

How so?

[hot verge]

Because they're light units

What's the attack speed?

[regal hatch]

just super low dmg for the price

[worn sparrow]

Same speed as the Giant

[hot verge]

That HP is just.... Wow

[regal hatch]

and probably need other stuff to be more worth it

[worn sparrow]

That isn't his purpose though. It's to be a tank

[hot verge]

So, 6.85 DPS?

[worn sparrow]

Ye

[exotic marlin]

This is cool, Training time should probably get increased a bit, damage should be aoe or splash damage, at least for the shield bash he does, and definitely needs to move slower because he has armor on him AND is a dead

[regal hatch]

so kinda like Speartons?

[hot verge]

1500 base HP:

[worn sparrow]

Yeah, especially with his taunt ability

[regal hatch]

the price plays a role too

[hot verge]

This is literally the tankiest unit

[exotic marlin]

Fr

[worn sparrow]

True, he could do like a knockback thing when he does his taunt but that's about it

[hot verge]

The highest HP per pop and highest HP to cost ratio

[exotic marlin]

Yeah, I'm suggesting the splash because in swl his shield bash did that

[regal hatch]

Speartons have better hp/cost value actually

well for gold

and they have the block on top of that

[worn sparrow]

The Stone Giant already has a passive reduction bonus without the need for block

It just depends on the unit it's fighting against

[hot verge]

Total cost, this has better HP/cost value
Spearton has 0.81
This has 0.85

That's without monstrosity

[exotic marlin]

For the passive ability.

That one unit that is somehow light and heavy: 30% reduction BRO WHYYYYYYYYYY

[hot verge]

With monstrosity, the hp/cost ratio will be 1.24

[exotic marlin]

Oh god I forgot about monstrosity

[worn sparrow]

Is there even a unit that is both light and Heavy? Is that even a thing?

[exotic marlin]

Nope

[hot verge]

The base HP per pop is literally more than max monstrosity cgiants

150 > 145

[worn sparrow]

Thank god for that lol

[exotic marlin]

Although that would be funny

[hot verge]

Tdeads

[worn sparrow]

And depressing for the guy using it against Stone Giant lol

[exotic marlin]

Lol fr

[hot verge]

Fighting against this will be a legitimate boss fight

Imagine magistonegiant turtle

[exotic marlin]

💀

[hot verge]

This is a wall

[worn sparrow]

Hmmm perhaps i should increase the training time to 60 seconds instead. Also who is the slowest unit in the game?

[hot verge]

Deads and tdeads

[exotic marlin]

Increase is definitely needed

[hot verge]

If you want technically the slowest unit, then it's miner walls

[exotic marlin]

💀

[worn sparrow]

Ok, guess he will have that speed then

[hot verge]

I don't think stone giant will work as a non-general unit

It will definitely not work as a non-general unit

[exotic marlin]

True

[hot verge]

The max monstrosity HP per pop for this unit is 217.5

That's literally a wall

A moving wall

[worn sparrow]

That can taunt all your units to attack it for 10 seconds

[hot verge]

Imagine a literal moving statue starts fcking trash talking you and then kicks your ass

This is a boss fight

[worn sparrow]

Better than Lunarclops lmao

[hot verge]

Lunarclops was only easy because he was alone and didn't have any army to assist him

Every sw boss that was alone has always been easy

Swl final boss, sw2 super medusa, sw3 lunarclops

Sw1 final boss was harder than all of these because

1. Sw1 giants were OP as fck
2. The final boss had an army to assist him

[worn sparrow]

Whatever CJ thought making a boss fight alone without his army in a game where you summon an army to fight is a bad idea. He must have been drunk loo

[exotic marlin]

True

And because he's slow

His attacks are slow

Even with an army, he wouldn't be difficult

Because he isn't good

[hot verge]

I just made a post to make lunarclops fight harder and it's been 7 minutes and I still have no comments or reactions in it

[exotic marlin]

High hp is useless if everything else is low

[hot verge]

His AOE damage is powerful, especially if you have high HP units, it just melts through half their HP

Add that to an army buffed with insane diff modifiers, and you get pure terror and panic

[exotic marlin]

True, but the unit himself isn't difficult to kill

[hot verge]

Yeah

Because it's one tanky unit with unreliable DPS against an entire army