#Griffon the Great + Upgrade for Marrowkai

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wooden marten
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[Chaos] [Giant] [Heavy] [General]
Current leader of the Giants.

Cost of unit:
2000 Gold
300 Crystal
Training time: 140s
Population: 15
Limit of one on the battlefield.

Stats:
2000 Health
50 ATK (+30 H)

Very powerful against Heavy units.
Allows Giants to train 30% faster.
If Upgrade Monstrosity has been bought:
Enables Earthquake ability in Giants (UC only)

Abilities: Earthquake - causes an earthquake that stuns enemy units
60 ATK (+20 H)
Cooldown:
45 seconds

Guard - Summons 2 Giants on either side
Cost:
3000 Gold
Cooldown: 70s

Note: Cannot be done if side already has 100 Population.

If only other units except Marrowkai are Chaos and Marrowkai is already on the battlefield, then combine with Marrowkai to make Kai Rider.

Kai Rider Stats:
2500 HP
65 ATK

Cost:
2250 Gold
400 Crystal

Kai Rider abilities:
Summon - Summons 6 Deads
If Toxic Totality has been bought:
Adds 3 Toxic Deads with every group of Deads summoned.

orchid lion
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600 gold marrowkahamadahamada

wooden marten
dusky mason
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Low

wide nymph
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Summon STONE GIANTS?

wooden marten
dusky mason
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Needs a big nerf

balmy finch
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Woah another shitt idea

wide nymph
# dusky mason Needs a big nerf

Big nerf? It needs to be straight up removed and completely remade and overhauled because there is no way anyone can un-fck this

wooden marten
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Remember the Stone Giant that you could buy?

balmy finch
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600 gold for this thing is way too small, what were you thinking

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Plus this has no purpose in the game

wide nymph
orchid lion
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Swl right

balmy finch
orchid lion
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From ahop?

wide nymph
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Yeah

orchid lion
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Bro swl is so broken

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Bc its single pkayer

dusky mason
orchid lion
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And because its a spell tging

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This is laughably op

wide nymph
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What does this even have to do with griffon the great?

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The post name is literally griffon the great (with a typo) but the main thing is the Kai rider

balmy finch
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Imagine playing sw3 and just see 7 stone giants walk up to your army

dusky mason
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This is better than King Rickatioo?

balmy finch
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Why does it need to summon stone giants

fleet spear
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Peter Griffin the great

wooden marten
wide nymph
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This just needs a complete overhaul

wooden marten
dusky mason
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King rickatioo solos then

wooden marten
dusky mason
wooden marten
dusky mason
fleet spear
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allyourbasearebelongtous accepted his fate dead_serious

balmy finch
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He really just gave up

wooden marten
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It seems OP, but it costs a lot.

wide nymph
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He has accepted that he doesn't know jackshit about balancing

wide nymph
balmy finch
wide nymph
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600 gold is 6 miner deposits, juggerknight cost is 500g 50m, which is also 6 miner deposits

dusky mason
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Increase cost to 4500 gold 2500 mana✔️✔️✔️

wooden marten
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No, it costs 6000 Gold and 800 Crystal.

wide nymph
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What costs 6000 gold and 800 mana?

wooden marten
balmy finch
wooden marten
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Did you even READ my idea?!

wide nymph
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Yes

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The post has basically nothing to do with griffon the great

wooden marten
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Griffon the Great costs 6000 Gold and 800 Crystal.

wide nymph
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Also TF do merics and the meric convert upgrade have to do with this?

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This idea is centered around Kai rider but the title is griffon the great

wooden marten
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shadowpalm
Goddamn it!

balmy finch
wooden marten
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To summon Stone Giants!

wide nymph
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And making them a SUMMON?

dusky mason
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Dead miner is a good idea?

wide nymph
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You're def on something

balmy finch
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Where the fuckk is Griffons cost?

wide nymph
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What have you been smoking bruv

balmy finch
wooden marten
wide nymph
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My live reaction:

wooden marten
wide nymph
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Your lack of skills in balancing are making me go insane

wide nymph
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There's literally nothing there

balmy finch
wooden marten
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Son of a bitch!

fleet spear
wooden marten
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It won't save!

balmy finch
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@wooden marten tell me, where is it’s cost?

wide nymph
balmy finch
wooden marten
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There.

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Do you see it now?

dusky mason
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Better

wide nymph
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I hope you do realize that you still need to balance the Kai rider and give griffon actual stats, right?

wooden marten
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Yes.

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Wait.

dusky mason
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Griffon pop:19!!

wooden marten
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I don't have to restart Discord again just to give it stats, do I?

wide nymph
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Yes, you do

wooden marten
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It's fixed.

wide nymph
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WHAT THE FCK

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That sht has more damage and a unit can possibly take in one attack

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It has so much damage that it literally can't deal damage

dusky mason
wide nymph
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And 10K HP?

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With monstrosity that's 14.5K HP

dusky mason
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HP idea:1500

wooden marten
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No, a Giant's HP is 1000.

wide nymph
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A speartons HP is 450 but atreyos's HP is 700

wooden marten
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It would not be a good idea to make its HP 1500.

dusky mason
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Its like giant max monstrosity

wooden marten
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That would... un-nerf it...

wide nymph
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This post is filled with more unbalance then the one time I made a shielder unit

dusky mason
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Armor miner more balanced🗣️🔥

wooden marten
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Look at how much health Xiphos has; 600 HP

wide nymph
wooden marten
wide nymph
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He's a Frontline general that costs a lot compared to swordwrath, but if his stats and cost were relative to swordwrath then he's be useless

wooden marten
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And a normal Swordwrath's health is about 70 HP.

wide nymph
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85

wooden marten
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Oh.

wide nymph
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If xiphos's stats were relative to swordwrath stats then he'd be an useless general because he'd be too weak

dusky mason
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Its balance!!🗣️🔥🔥

wooden marten
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But still, that's like 6 times the health of a Swordwrath.

wide nymph
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Kytchu and archis have 300 HP but archidons have 70 HP

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Speartons have 450 HP but atreyos has 700 HP

wooden marten
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THAT AIN'T BALANCE!

dusky mason
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Spearos have 600 HP?

wide nymph
dusky mason
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Not really
Generals are OP

wide nymph
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If xiphos had like 150 HP then he'd be useless

wooden marten
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Not the Kytchu and Archis's health compared to Xiphos.

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That is almost half the amount that Xiphos has.

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Sounds weak, if you ask me.

dusky mason
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You have skill issue

wide nymph
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Kytchu and archis are ranged generals and don't need to have high health but xiphos is a Frontline melee general and needs high health to survive

dusky mason
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Xiphos is like a paper actually

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(unless agaisnt tdeads of course)

wide nymph
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Yeah

wooden marten
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What if there were only archers and Kytchu and Archis? Then you would wish that they had more HP, wouldn't you?

dusky mason
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Archer weak

wide nymph
dusky mason
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Spear strong

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Strong protect weak

wooden marten
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SPEAR!?

dusky mason
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Spearton

wide nymph
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Spearton

wooden marten
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L

wide nymph
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?

wooden marten
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@dusky mason I was thinking of a walking spear when you said that

dusky mason
wide nymph
dusky mason
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Skill issue

wide nymph
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THAT'D BE SUCH A COOL APRIL FOOLS PRANK

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Just replacing speartons with walking spears

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Just the texture tho

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They'd still have the same stats (of course)

wooden marten
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That would look cursed

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Just the ends of the spears just moving back and forth.

wide nymph
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It'd be funny tho

dusky mason
wide nymph
glad hazel
wooden marten
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And all the other characters would be replaced by their weapons as their texture, but with their armor, too.

wooden marten
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The fuck?!

glad hazel
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Especially with the earthquake and training giants

wide nymph
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Griffon the great posts have existed for longer both of you have been in this server COMBINED

wooden marten
wide nymph
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Griffon the great and spearton dead posts are popular among new people

wooden marten
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I've only been on this server for a week now, and yet no one TOLD ME THIS?!

wide nymph
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Looks like no

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Griffon the great posts are older than my account

glad hazel
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I’m in like for 2 weeks

wide nymph
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Also speardeads posts are also older than my account

dusky mason
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I am almost 2 years

wooden marten
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Well, mine has more details than yours, @glad hazel

wide nymph
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Your post is mainly focused on the Kai rider

glad hazel
wide nymph
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2/3 of this post is NOT about griffon the great

wooden marten
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That too, but I specifically remember it being called Griffon the Great, but with a misspelling.

glad hazel
balmy finch
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Wouldn’t be surprised ngl

wooden marten
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No, I actually did organize all of it.

wide nymph
orchid lion
wooden marten
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And no, I came up with it on my own.

wide nymph
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Also did you know that proloteysm is literally a meric exclusive upgrade?

orchid lion
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Yeah

glad hazel
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amplified magikill ability on meric 🤦‍♂️

orchid lion
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Ok i gotta make s ballanced general idea to introduce balance to the sw3 force

glad hazel
orchid lion
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All these noobs are gonna make me toxic i swesr

wide nymph
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With how many people are in this discord server, some things WILL get unintentionally "stolen"

balmy finch
wide nymph
wide nymph
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Including me

glad hazel
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Ur idea is adding more variety of tags

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Mine is adding missing existing tag to certain cards

wide nymph
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My idea is making already existing tags visible, which is technically the same as your idea

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For example, the ranged tag, it already exists, but it's not visible, so making it visible will make it seem like a new tag got added to ranged units

wooden marten
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My idea of how Griffon the Great would be in SW3 is much more detailed than yours, @glad hazel

orchid lion
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Oh my god stope beefing

wide nymph
orchid lion
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This ks unrelated and do you want a mod to close your post

glad hazel
wooden marten
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Want to try me? Compare mine side-by-side to yours.

wide nymph
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This is NOT more detailed

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And it's also way more unbalanced

hybrid vector
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Would be better with 2700hp, 60+45 H and burn damage tbh

glad hazel
hybrid vector
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Hammer...

glad hazel
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I mean his stuff has fire

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Kinda

hybrid vector
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It's a lava

wide nymph
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Magma

hybrid vector
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Hammer

balmy finch
wide nymph
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It's not really a hammer

hybrid vector
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Axe hammer

glad hazel
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It’s like a mace

wide nymph
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This post should just be deleted and completely remade and overhauled because none of us here can un-fck this

glad hazel
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But not round

hybrid vector
wooden marten
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And also, @glad hazel, you put the Giant and Heavy tags in the wrong order.

wide nymph
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Why does that matter?

orchid lion
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Nitpicking

wide nymph
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It literally doesn't matter, as long as the tags are there then it's fine

dusky mason
orchid lion
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It like saying that you didnt put a perios somewhere

orchid lion
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Ok this is horrible just in general

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The stats ballance and the drama if yoi could call it that

glad hazel
hybrid vector
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I thought I'd say that lol

wide nymph
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Okay

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Stop this

hybrid vector
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Perhaps let the devs deal with griffon, if he'd be in the game 12% chance

wide nymph
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Both of your ideas are unbalanced and griffon will NEVER be balanced unless the game mechanic where all generals have the same pop gets removed

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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Also this is literally THE most unbalanced griffon post I've ever seen

wide nymph
wooden marten
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You clearly didn't get what I meant by TAGS.

dusky mason
dusky mason
wide nymph
wooden marten
hybrid vector
glad hazel
dusky mason
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Make griffon singleplayer only!!🔥

wide nymph
glad hazel
wide nymph
dusky mason
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Your sound old

wide nymph
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At least credit the artist

dusky mason
wooden marten
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What does Sicklebear have anything to do with this?

dusky mason
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Idk

wide nymph
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What does this have to do with griffon

dusky mason
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Idk

glad hazel
wooden marten
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The Earthquake ability part.

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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People aren't stealing art, and those who do usually get caught early

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@wooden marten did you just Yes your own post?

wooden marten
glad hazel
wooden marten
wide nymph
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That's art stealing

hybrid vector
glad hazel
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Bc there is no discord emote for Griffon

dusky mason
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Someone recolor my art!!1!1

glad hazel
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I have to put that

wooden marten
dusky mason
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Is annoying when people use a thing you made without asking

wide nymph
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There's no discord emotes for many units

dusky mason
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Toxic_Grab tdead here... All fine

wooden marten
balmy finch
wide nymph
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Most elementals (I think only fire and water eles and treature have emotes) don't have discord emotes

hybrid vector
dusky mason
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Wh

balmy finch
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OP reacted yes on his own post, kill him

wide nymph
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Public execution

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Swarm him with tdeads

dusky mason
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That wouldn't do something

wooden marten
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Don't I have a right to free speech?

wide nymph
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He doesn't have vamp

hybrid vector
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No, speech is now $3

wide nymph
dusky mason
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No neccessary

glad hazel
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The whole time

wooden marten
wide nymph
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I think you people are forgetting that IRL humans would have only like 20-30 HP if they were in sw3

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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Stick war units are simply too strong for normal humans

wide nymph
hybrid vector
wooden marten
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Yet they can be turned into Deads.

wide nymph
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Swordwrath with 85 HP are capable of performing incredible feats of strength as seen by their idle animations

hybrid vector
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And damage would be 1

glad hazel
wooden marten
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The animation of humans attacking a unit would just be punching.

wide nymph
hybrid vector
glad hazel
wooden marten
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Combine a sledgehammer with that sickle and now you have the entire army of Russia.

wide nymph
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A lot of us would get our arses beat by the sw3 cats

glad hazel
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Don’t know how Zarek has 50 dps tbh

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he don’t do much

wide nymph
wooden marten
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I mean he does go stabby stabby sometimes.

hybrid vector
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And he doesn't aim anywhere else when hitting, he goes for the mid

wide nymph
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"stabby stabby" you're not wrong, but don't say it like that again

hybrid vector
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😬

wide nymph
glad hazel
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What is sw3 most forgotten unit?

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prob riprider

wide nymph
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Sickles

hybrid vector
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His hp is too much though

wide nymph
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Or zarek

wooden marten
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Probably would have to be Deads.

hybrid vector
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He needs a hp nerf

wide nymph
wide nymph
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Please

hybrid vector
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Bro has no armor but has more hp than Armored Atreyos

glad hazel
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Atreyos have heavy healing wisp

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while healing Zarek is hard

hybrid vector
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But deserves a speed buff

wooden marten
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He does have a straitjacket. Does that count as armor?

wide nymph
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Kytchu and thera would beat our arses if they fought us in hand-to-hand combat

wooden marten
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Not Thera.

wide nymph
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There's has 300 HP

wide nymph
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A 85 HP swordwrath can do like 3-4 one arm pushups within seconds

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Thera is way stronger than swordwrath

wide nymph
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In a street fight, thera would beat all of us

glad hazel
wooden marten
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She is not strong, all she does is hold a stick.

wide nymph
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300 HP

hybrid vector
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Not the minion marrowkahamadahamada

wooden marten
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She can only heal.

orchid lion
glad hazel
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Weakest stat is crawler prob

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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3.5 stronger than swordwrath and swordwrath can do a lot of one arm pushups within seconds, thera is 3.5 times stronger than swordwrath

glad hazel
orchid lion
wide nymph
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She would possibly knock us out with a single punch

hybrid vector
wooden marten
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Fastest person in the world can run at a speed of around 5 meters per second.

hybrid vector
wooden marten
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Imagine that... hehe...

wide nymph
glad hazel
wooden marten
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punch Ahhh!

hybrid vector
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We win

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Trust me

wide nymph
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If a 85 HP swordwrath is able to pull off such incredible feats of strength, imagine what 300 HP thera can do

wooden marten
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She couldn't even use a fly swatter to kill it.

wide nymph
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She could probably crack a wall with a punch considering the absolute strength of sw units

glad hazel
wooden marten
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Throw it.

wide nymph
# hybrid vector # SWORDwrath

Swordwrath idle animation is him doing one arm pushups in a row very fast, and that doesn't require a sword, just pure strength

glad hazel
wooden marten
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Then it'll burst her bubble.

hybrid vector
wooden marten
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I know!

hybrid vector
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Ma guy

glad hazel
wooden marten
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AIRPLANE!

dusky mason
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What are talking about

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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Every sw unit would fck up us in hand-to-hand fights

glad hazel
dusky mason
glad hazel
hybrid vector
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Fax

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U can't stop the belt

wide nymph
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Dads have that ungodly dad strength, that must be why zarek has so much HP and damage actually

wooden marten
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That stick gives her all that wizardy magic!

dusky mason
hybrid vector
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He gives em the daddy beating kekw

dusky mason
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Like 6 childrendead_serious

wooden marten
wide nymph
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So zarek has a secret passive

D a d strength

dusky mason
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My dad still better

hybrid vector
wide nymph
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My dad solos

dusky mason
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Mine!!

wide nymph
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No

dusky mason
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Yes

wide nymph
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Nuh uh

hybrid vector
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My Dad solos Wrathnars army

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🥛☝️

dusky mason
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My dad was black so is strong!!!

hybrid vector
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Milk fuel

wide nymph
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Bro what

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was?

hybrid vector
wooden marten
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Just pour the milk on Thera!

wide nymph
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Did your dad pull off a Micheal Jackson

dusky mason
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(me white tho...)

wooden marten
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"I'm melting!"

hybrid vector
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Lmfao kekw kekw

nova tiger
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How is this both funny and idiotic in a way?

runic stratus
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I love this idea

wooden marten
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I made a couple of changes to the post, so let me know if something is wrong with it.

hybrid vector
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No

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We still don't want your griffon

fleet spear
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Theres no way the devs are gonna make griffin balanced if they cant even balance the Egiant after many months

wooden marten
bronze tusk
runic stratus
wooden marten
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The whole point of its cost is because of its HP and its power.

wide nymph
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The HP and damage is way too much for the cost it has

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The damage is literally so much that it won't be able to deal damage

wooden marten
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The only problem with it in SWL is that it didn't have any cost.

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Except Gems, of course.

wide nymph
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That was the cost

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Griffon in swl was a spell unit

wooden marten
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BTW, I re-Yes ed my post...devious

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I changed it... again...

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The post, not the reaction.

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By the way,
Yes Yes Yes

wide nymph
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There was not a single change made to griffon

wooden marten
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Uh, yeah there was.

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Look at the bottom of it.

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I even came up with a new idea for stats...bomber_troll

hybrid vector
ocean garden
minor cloak
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A mythological beast/creature/animal

orchid lion
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peter griffon the great

wooden marten
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Griffon the Great

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There. Happy now?

wide nymph
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No

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You still need to balance griffon

minor cloak
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Swl:
3000hp
50mg
25(?)dps

wide nymph
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That's swl

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The second most broken stick war game

wooden marten
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It ain't broken!

dusky mason
main igloo
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This is Too Overpowered , Nerf it 💀💀💀💀💀

fleet spear
wide nymph
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Sw1

modern timber
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hella broken

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just don't make him SUMMON stone giants

runic stratus
fleet spear
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Why would a hellish monster summon deads that are not his own kind

wooden marten
wooden marten
wooden marten
runic stratus
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The ideas unneeded

wooden marten
runic stratus
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It's unbelievably overpowered

wooden marten
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Which is why it is worth 6000 Gold and 800 Mana.

runic stratus
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Bro literally can't die unless he's spammed by every single general and 100 giants

wooden marten
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Yeah, but it would take forever just to get enough resources to get the unit.

runic stratus
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Therefore, it's unneeded

wooden marten
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Not necessarily.

runic stratus
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._.

wooden marten
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You could still create other types of units and hold out against the other side, while still holding the center tower and also gaining resources from the tower's tier bonus.

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Therefore, it is not all that useless.

orchid lion
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Honestly if you let your opponent get this unit your bad at the game and deserve to die to this op monstrocity

wide nymph
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The amount of resources it takes is more than what people can gain without VoP

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And the stats are also way too OP, even for that cost

vale fractal
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Make it a spell that lasts for 5 seconds "the call of Griffon"

wide nymph
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Why you revive this

minor cloak
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Oops

inner bough
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500th comment

sour horizon
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502th comment

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and if this gets added then the opponent should resign as soon as they see this because there is no way to beat this monstrosity

wooden marten
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I changed the stats of my idea for Griffon the Great. Do you think that it still is a bad idea?

wide nymph
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Still unbalanced

wooden marten
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Better?

wide nymph
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No

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This needs an entire overhaul

wooden marten
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Haven't you even reread it?

wide nymph
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I have

wooden marten
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I un-nerfed it.

wide nymph
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It's still unbalanced

wooden marten
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And I removed the ability for it to summon Stone Giants.

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And it's now beatable.

wide nymph
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It's beatable

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But the stats seem way more fitting for a campaign exclusive boss rather than a general for multiplayer

wooden marten
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giant_think
What should I make the stats, then?

wide nymph
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Make it less

wooden marten
wide nymph
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Decrease everything

wooden marten
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That is literally what I just did...

wide nymph
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Less damage, less HP, less cost, less pop, less training time

glad hazel
wide nymph
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The stats right now are not fit for multiplayer

glad hazel
orchid lion
wooden marten
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💢

orchid lion
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150 can 1 tap most light units

glad hazel
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This Griffon is more broken than legacy

orchid lion
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Stop saying broken

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And tell him wgats wrong

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70 dmg is enoigh to one tap archidlons and tgat is alot of dmg

glad hazel
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60 is good enough for a giant

orchid lion
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So i would say give this 70 dng + whatever heavy

wide nymph
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I think 70 base damage is still too much for multiplayer

orchid lion
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5 k hp is too much

glad hazel
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ATK: 60 (+15 H)

glad hazel
wide nymph
orchid lion
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Nothing can actualy kill that and its over the statue hp

glad hazel
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HP: 1600

orchid lion
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Griffon should not be a replacment of your statsue unless you fully commit to the idea and have griffon replace your statue

wide nymph
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Griffon's HP is always going to over the statue HP because he has to have more HP than giants and with monstrosity he'll have more than 1500 HP

orchid lion
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Then again summobing things will aleayd be op

glad hazel
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💀

wide nymph
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The stats are good if it's going to be a campaign exclusive but for multiplayer, no way

orchid lion
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The rest of the abilites is ballanced i think

glad hazel
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Earthquake is balance?

wooden marten
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I added something that would make sense to Guard ability.

orchid lion
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Yeah i think so

wide nymph
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New stats are more tolerable, but still too much for multiplayer

orchid lion
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150 dmg is my main issue

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5k hp is aecond

glad hazel
orchid lion
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And guard is my last

wooden marten
wide nymph
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Stats have been changed

orchid lion
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Yeah

wide nymph
orchid lion
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Less hp and dmg

glad hazel
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3500 is still kinda too much if u gonna use monstrosity

wide nymph
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3500 HP and 125 damage is still too much for multiplayer

orchid lion
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70 dmg is a huge dmg threshold in sw3 as it can 1 tap archidons deads and minions

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So 70 is the max dmg anything should have

glad hazel
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60 (+15 H)

orchid lion
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Base dmg

wide nymph
orchid lion
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More to heavy is fine

glad hazel
glad hazel
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or 20

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not talking anymore bc I don’t like ppl who :yes: their own post

orchid lion
wide nymph
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It's how a giant should be

orchid lion
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Yeah

glad hazel
wide nymph
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Sicklewrath will get 2 shot

glad hazel
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ye

wide nymph
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But they still get 2 shot by normal cgiants

glad hazel
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1 shot if Griffon have TT

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I think?

wide nymph
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Technically egiants can be 1 shot by a dead if the dead has TT

glad hazel
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Basically order is done by poison if they don’t have healing or vamp

wide nymph
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Not really

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There's only 2 order units that can't garrison

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Others can garrison to heal and cure

glad hazel
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Rip and egiant

wide nymph
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Rip ripp and egiant

glad hazel
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Rip is like a mini giant

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That do little dmg

wide nymph
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Cause of death:
TT dead lmao

orchid lion
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Lol

glad hazel
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Don’t know why ripp can’t garrison

orchid lion
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Cresture

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Crawlers shouldnt be able to garrison ether

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As it doesnt match thair playsyle

wide nymph
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Or maybe they're so tanky that the devs went "no garrison heal for you" and removed their ability to garrison, like egiants and cgiants

glad hazel
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How Eclipsor garrison: take off their wings and transform into tdeads

wooden marten
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I am just going to keep my reaction on No

glad hazel
glad hazel
wooden marten
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Where's the Crawler?

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There is literally no Crawler in your deck.

dusky mason
wooden marten
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Do you like it?

dusky mason
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3000 HP is way too much for multiplayer

wooden marten
wooden marten
wooden marten
wide nymph
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Don't forget that the 3000 HP is just the base HP

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With monstrosity he'll have 4350 HP

wooden marten
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Yeah, I know, but it's enough just to be defeatable.

wide nymph
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Still too much for multiplayer

wooden marten
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Ehh...

wide nymph
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As a campaign exclusive, it's fine, but for multiplayer a 3000 HP general is too much

wooden marten
wide nymph
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The damage is also enough to one shot a lot of units

fleet spear
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100 dmg (50H) dead_serious

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I'll consider this post as troll

wide nymph
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Almost 3 shots speartons

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That 3 block is saving their arse from getting 3 shot

fleet spear
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also how is griffon a former leader

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he aint leading sh*t

wide nymph
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But he's the current leader, not the former leader

fleet spear
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he low IQ

wooden marten
wide nymph
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New HP I guess could work for multiplayer, considering he takes up 20 pop

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But the damage is still too much

wooden marten
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How much damage does a bolt from Tesla Coil do?

wide nymph
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Dunno

fleet spear
wide nymph
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Base Tesla coil damage isn't enough to kill a dead tho

wide nymph
wooden marten
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You mean T. Deads?

fleet spear
wide nymph
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No

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I mean normal deads

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The only time Tesla coil can oneshot deads is with VA and VS

wooden marten
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Deads have twice the amount of HP as Crawlers.

wide nymph
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Tesla coil is also a spell that can only be cast if the player has the tower fully controlled and it can only be cast on tower

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This is a general unit

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Griffon can walk around the map and doesn't need the tower to actually work

fleet spear
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it doesnt matter, 150 dmg to a heavy is too much

wide nymph
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The HP I guess is fine for the pop he has, but the damage is still too much

wooden marten
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There...

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Is 115 ATK damage against Heavy units fine?

wide nymph
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👍

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Also the aftershock passive should be removed

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Cgiants aren't meant to be light horde destroyers

wooden marten
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😑

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@fleet spear didn't you even notice the changes I made?

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He reacted No on my post.

fleet spear
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im busy bruv

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I aint gonna like a post that needed help to fix a broken general

wooden marten
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It's 2000 HP and 75 ATK.

fleet spear
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75 dmg is still too much

wooden marten
fleet spear
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this post has 14 No anyway

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wtf am i supposed to do?

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solve world hunger?

wooden marten
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💢No

rigid kelp
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This idea is totally awesome.

pliant oasis
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Yessss

runic stratus
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This idea is just a no

wooden marten
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What do I need to fix now?

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@runic stratus I fixed it.

orchid lion
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No please let this post die

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Its annoying for us to scroll all the way up

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And plus peiple are tired of seeing this post

runic stratus
wide nymph
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That was not what I was expecting to see

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Aftershock passive is still unnecessary and now it's too cheap for how powerful it is

devout ferry
wooden marten
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It can't summon Gigantic Deads anymore.

wide nymph
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Stop reviving this for fck's sake

wooden marten
wide nymph
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It's better to just repost at this point

wooden marten
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I'm now deleting this post...

inner bough
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why

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does not deserve to be deleted

fleet spear
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yeah it's too balanced

wooden marten
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17 now.

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IDK why, but it went back to saying 2v2 exclusive.

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It's fixed now, but I thought I changed it earlier...

glad hazel
wooden marten
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...

orchid lion
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Ew cringe revive

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Ether put the effort into typing the word revive or pull up a better argument

mint trench
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Let’s buff this.

rigid kelp
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Still awesome.

grand tree
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I wonder why post like these gains do much attraction

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It's sad

wide nymph
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This sht is still unbalanced as fck

grand tree
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Yeah true

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How this isn't this balanced with all these comments?

rigid kelp
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I guess...

rigid kelp
wide nymph
# rigid kelp Still awesome.

This is the most basic griffon post to ever exist (excluding the posts which are just "add griffon" that sometimes has a PNG or screenshot of griffon but those can't even be considered as real posts because of the complete lack of effort they have)

rigid kelp
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IDC what you say, I will still think it's awesome.

wide nymph
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Okay, but there is no way in hell that you can say that this is balanced

rigid kelp
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Balanced.

wide nymph
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You're trolling

wooden marten
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IDK how this post is still here.

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I could've sworn I deleted this.

grand tree
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Power of unity

ocean garden
hybrid vector
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Uhhh

wide nymph
orchid lion
glad hazel
potent elbow
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Yes I came from stick war legacy like I think most people did and id love for him to come back

potent elbow
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@orchid lion I was gonna say that but I changed my mind bc I saw them in a campaign lvl so I thought they were coming already

orchid lion
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If they are buildable they arejust straight better if they are upgrades that is yet another spear exclusive thing

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If they are summons that means the thibg that summons them must cost more than 2 speartons combines and then more as they are better

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They need to juat be skins OR single player exclusive

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Griffon is the same case as it would be expesnive or realy central to a deck, as such it would need to be reasonably powerful

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But jacking up the hp or dmg would make it the best rush general/ mid game destroyer

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Giving it a passive/ active ability makes it so that you cant have a huge tank griffon making it 1: rely on the abilities and cant stand on its own or 2: underwhelming and dosent represent its faction/ the giant units

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Having both would ether make the price be over the top and make griffon an insta win or just mediocer. (If griffon even exists bc lets face it SWL isnt all cannon) if they do go for an op one it would only be for campaign

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Back to Gspeartons they would ether replace speartons in the meta (ik we shouldnt ballance things around in game metas but bear with me here) or would be purposless and wlmt be used

untold moss
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What are these stats

prisma phoenix
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Its #Past bro must leave it

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Griffon. Has Lost All purpose

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Even If Really Came To sw3.
He's very diffrent

dreamy girder
#

Golden units should be skins

wooden marten
dreamy girder
idle furnace
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I literally did this but worse

wooden marten
#

Brutus.

zealous kite
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Bro tf

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Even my ideas dont reach here

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This is nightmare fuel

wooden marten
#

This post?

zealous kite
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Yup

wooden marten
#

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

orchid lion
#

Fair

wooden marten
#

Huh?

rigid kelp
orchid lion
# rigid kelp Yes.

Stfu you didnt even read stats and said griffon should be added bc swl even though swl isnt all cannon

orchid lion
wooden marten
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Me: *triggered over the 24 No my post has
Live footage:

orchid lion
minor cloak
#

25 now

wooden marten
#

Griffon the Great + Upgrade for Marrowkai

minor cloak
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27

untold moss
#

We counting the NOs now?

inner bough
#

sure

orchid lion
#

Hell yeah

heavy moon
wooden marten
tepid palm
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This is a very good idea but we can see some vedios on YouTube showing griffon in stick war 3

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Here it is

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The vedio of being griffon in the stick war 3

wide nymph
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That's probably not even real and just a modified cgiant with hacks

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Also only monstrosity 1 and can already tank that many egiant boulders?

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And it was also probably pre-nerf egiants

tepid palm
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Bro

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Griffon is the leader of the giants

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And not forget Egiant is also a giant and it's leader is griffon to

fluid shale
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They are enslaved, so no chaos leader

minor cloak
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28

lofty orchid
minor cloak
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Whut