#New Chaos Unit: "NECROKILLER" (new version) with balanced stats.

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strong wren
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Lore: The Necrokiller Entity, in its time was a Magikill, one of the many who wanted to practice dark magic, wanting to discover this sinister magic, was banished, and with a heart full of hatred, he went to the lands of the Chaos Empire, and in An attempt to obtain dark knowledge, Kai the necromancer attacked him as well as all the other corrupt magikill who tried to go for the secret that dark magic.

Kai, seeing the darkness in the hearts of the banished magikills, offered them the secret in exchange for a part of them. When they accepted, they would never imagine that they would become a dark entity whose only mission would be to serve the Kai, collecting souls for them. and the bodies for his master... Kai, taking advantage of the bodies of the magikill, would create his first duplicates, who would guide the assault on Spearton Atreyos' army in the dark forests... those soulless bodies that would guide General Kai's zombies would be called, the DEAD KAI and the feared KAI RAIDERS, while the souls of the corrupted magikills would become part of the kai guard, forgetting their personality and past life to thus be called Necrokillers.

Img by me, this img is not the final result, the final result will be chossen by the creators of the game.

credits special: @glass summit for help me into the upgrade of the design

Stats inside the blog

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STATS:

COST:

popl: 6
cristal: 300
gold: 200
countdown: 15 secconds

HP & DMG:

HP: 200 (special: when the general kai appears the necrokiller reward +100 hp until kai has been defeated)
Meele Damage: 7 (+14 L) s
Attack speed: 1.4 s
Magic Damage: 5 (+3 L) s

Spells & Specials:

Spells:

Calls of the past: A group of ghosts makes the enemy retreat to the central pillar or the defense formation, as appropriate, and also causes the enemy to ignore the instructions given by the opposing player for a period of 5 seconds during the escape.
After 5 seconds the rival soldiers return to battle.
Range: 6
countdown: 25 secconds
Curse of fullminate: 4 enemies chosen at random are set on fire for 5 seconds.
range: 5
countdown: 15 secconds

Special:

-When the Necrokiller is defeated, it will explode, damaging all entities around it, whether friendly or enemy.
range: 6-7
damage: 20%
-If the Necrokiller eliminates a class from the order empire, magic attacks will be restored instantly.

Tags: Magic/Chaos/Light

small fjord
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Not bad

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Why does it have such high melee damage but low magic damage if it's a magic unit tho

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This is a spellcaster unit, right?

strong wren
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Because it is a magical support unit, if you have dying enemies and it manages to kill them, it recharges its abilities instantly... then the damage in general would be compensated by the number of deaths

small fjord
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👍

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What are the ability cooldowns?

strong wren
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15 secconds

small fjord
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For both abilities?

strong wren
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yeah?

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what do yo want? is the chaos empire

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the empire of the dark magic

small fjord
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Does the first ability affect only one enemy unit or a group of enemy units?

strong wren
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one spell is a support spell not a damage spell

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a group

small fjord
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15 seconds is too fast for an ability that makes a group of units retreat for 5 seconds

strong wren
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enough time for a player with a good fast response

small fjord
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It's not

strong wren
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here we go again...

small fjord
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3-4 necrokillers could literally disable an entire Frontline

strong wren
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that why they called necrokillers xd

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and if you dont read completly

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"the final result will be chossen by the creators of the game."

small fjord
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Don't let them do that

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We let them make stats for units, and they had to rebalance the same unit multiple times and ended up making it complete trash

strong wren
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listen, is my work body, if they love the design they will be use it...

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if they dont like the stats

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they will change it

small fjord
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It's better to let the community decide the stats

strong wren
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im just the pencil

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when that happend in another game they choose a creature for the stupid idea of one youtuber dont make me laugh

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and remember

small fjord
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?

strong wren
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is just an idea

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they will chosse if they make it or not

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indeed its seems right to me

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and is not 100% op

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if is op that simple spell can stun the enemys

small fjord
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The first ability can pretty much retreat-lock an entire front line

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Increase the cooldown of the first ability to like 20-25 seconds or make it so that it affects only one enemy unit instead of a group

strong wren
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i think about that...

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but remember

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he can kill and restore they spells

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think more careful

small fjord
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He will have to get in melee range to kill units, thus risking dying himself

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And that could fck up both your Frontline and the enemy Frontline

strong wren
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Special:

-When the Necrokiller is defeated, it will explode, damaging all entities around it, whether friendly or enemy.

small fjord
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Yeah

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That

strong wren
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kaboom

small fjord
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Also how much damage does the explosion do and how much units does it affect?

strong wren
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if the pass to a new life he will take someone with him

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what is the range of the fullminate of magikill?

small fjord
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Magikill fulminate AOE?

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It's 4

strong wren
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6-7

small fjord
strong wren
small fjord
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How much damage does it do tho

strong wren
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Magic Damage: 5 (+3 L) s

small fjord
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Is that the explosion damage?

strong wren
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and the curse of fulminate

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is the same damage

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is a corrupted soul of one magikill xd

small fjord
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The explosion damage is too weak for something that requires you to basically sacrifice a powerful, protected unit

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Maybe increase the explosion damage to like 20

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But keep the curse of fulminate damage the same

strong wren
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What it doesn't make up for in magic it makes up for in melee damage. If you manage to keep a necrokiller alive, you can easily kill an entire Swordwrath battalion.

small fjord
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What's the attack speed?

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For the melee attack

strong wren
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basically the necrokiller is designed as a combo creature

small fjord
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The necrokiller is a very interesting combination of things

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Bro's pretty much a marrowkai, magikill, shadowrath and bomber mixed into one unit

strong wren
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LOTR

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witch king

small fjord
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I don't know whether I should hate that fact or love it

strong wren
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think about the witch king that is my inspiration

small fjord
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I feel like necrokillers will be the perfect troll unit for 2v2

strong wren
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indeed

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the necrokillers are the guards of the kai indeed

small fjord
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Your enemy is too strong and your teammate is incompetent?
Bomb both of them with a single necrokiller death!
bomber_troll

strong wren
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thats why they have a hp buff when he apears

small fjord
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Enemy attacking too much?
Forcefully retreat their units!
bomber_troll

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Enemy units looking too healthy?
Combust them into flames out of nowhere!

strong wren
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One of my ideas that would have made him op basically, was that when fighting melee against a spearton or juggerknight he had a 15% chance of breaking their shield with the ball he has

small fjord
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That IS op

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And also too much RNG

strong wren
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thats why the attack is like to... a mmm

small fjord
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Honestly

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Fck it

strong wren
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who is the attack speed of the crawler

small fjord
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You're getting an yes on this post

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But it does need some balancing

small fjord
strong wren
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1.6 /s

small fjord
strong wren
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you think, thats is fair, but the numbers change...

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MATH MAH BOY

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the numbers wont lie!

small fjord
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That's too fast for something that has this much damage

strong wren
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is a combo unit

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dont forget dat

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is just like...

small fjord
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Literally more DPS than shadowrath

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It REALLY needs an attack speed decrease

strong wren
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OH 2 per seccond

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NAH im joking

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or... not?

small fjord
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Don't you dare

strong wren
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1.4 last offer

small fjord
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Alright

strong wren
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with crit dmg

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ok no

small fjord
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Also is this a light unit or a heavy unit?

strong wren
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for the hp and the hp buff

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heavy magic chaos unit

small fjord
strong wren
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KAI???????????

small fjord
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But it does need that heavy tag

strong wren
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MAGIC HEAVY GENERAL CHAOS....

small fjord
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Kai is a light unit, not a heavy

strong wren
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is just a magic unit with good hp

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but he have a lot of stuff to

frail peak
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Generals have 3 abilities

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Normal units have 2

strong wren
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this have 2

small fjord
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Light dead magic chaos general
Kai
dead_serious

frail peak
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Not counting attack for ether

frail peak
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Kai shpuld be a tag

strong wren
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well

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generic

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what do yo think

frail peak
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The curse of fumigatw

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Is weird i think

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Also veru cost efficient for what it is

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Ehh i could see a rush deck abusing this

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Or an turrtle deck abusing the stun thing

small fjord
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I would ABSOLUTELY be abusing this with brilliance

frail peak
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Fr

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Whats the buildtime and population

strong wren
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i told to ideas, about that... is a combo unit

small fjord
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A decently tanky high DPS magic unit for only 200m and 150g? Sign me up!

frail peak
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This is not bad

strong wren
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what is the magikill population

frail peak
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As in kinda too good but its not that bad

small fjord
frail peak
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Magikill population cost is the worst thing about magi

strong wren
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dont like

frail peak
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So high for what it gives you

strong wren
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dont lie

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i know

frail peak
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Its kinda op

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A little too good

strong wren
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thats why i wanna know

frail peak
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Like stat wise

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I dont hate the idea

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The self explosion could be removed

strong wren
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the population of the NECROKILLER

small fjord
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Imagine marrowkai start with this unit

strong wren
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will be...

frail peak
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Like manaburas exists

frail peak
strong wren
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because is a soul who fall into the darkness...

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6 p

frail peak
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No please whem talkong abt stats no

strong wren
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discount the body

frail peak
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Please dont speak in like lore terms

strong wren
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and the minions

small fjord
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Discount the body?!

frail peak
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MINIONS??

strong wren
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read the lore

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he dont produce minions

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is just a soul

small fjord
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DISCOUNT THE BODY?!

strong wren
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a soul with armor

frail peak
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Ah well thats cool

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Idea: like deads when necro killer dies ot heals marrow

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By like 50

strong wren
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ehhh...

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mmm

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better read the story

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and you will be understand some things

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every character have his story

small fjord
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TBH lore really isn't that needed

strong wren
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BUT....

small fjord
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Only the things that wouldn't make sense would need lore for it to make sense

frail peak
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Lore is corny but not the worst ive seen

strong wren
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the lore explain some things

strong wren
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1.4 /s

frail peak
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Specific

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Wow

small fjord
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1.6 was too op

strong wren
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well

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another question?

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ahhh the range of the ghost

small fjord
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I didn't even think of that

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I thought they just chased down the enemy until they reached them

strong wren
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no no

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is just like a jumpscare for the enemy troops

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thats why is a suport unit indeed

small fjord
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So they just suddenly appear?

strong wren
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is like...

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"PRESTO" BOOO

small fjord
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Like you're just walking down the battlefield and suddenly a ghost is in front of you?

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Like a FNAF jumpscare?

strong wren
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something like that

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but better

dull forge
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Any splash damage?

small fjord
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Damn no wonder why the enemy gets scared AF

strong wren
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when the necrokiller dies

dull forge
strong wren
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20%

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i dont know im new in this

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i just create characters xd

small fjord
dull forge
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Just for the stats, this unit is pretty strong.

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With the abilties on top of it, it is VERY strong

strong wren
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can you see the old model

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is on the list of ideas

dull forge
strong wren
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the old model is really op

strong wren
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" was a Magikill, one of the many who wanted to practice dark magic, wanting to discover this sinister magic, was banished, and with a heart full of hatred, he went to the lands of the Chaos Empire, and in An attempt to obtain dark knowledge, Kai the necromancer attacked him as well as all the other corrupt magikill who tried to go for the secret that dark magic."

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extract from the lore

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well

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ANOTHER CHANGE TO DO?!

small fjord
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No

strong wren
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well

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it was not easy task but it is done!

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now the only thing i have to do is wait and wait the opinion of the others players

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and the check of the creators

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haha im just feel like a kirbo

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"you are my favorite creation"...

frail peak
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I made a parody of your old post #1191799798962077767

strong wren
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thats not a bad idea..

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but the thing is...

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we have now a necromancer

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and the name is the general Kai{

frail peak
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Yeah

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I tried to make mine different by not summoning deads and a support and ranged role

strong wren
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ahhh!

frail peak
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MAGIC MISSILE

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Is a spell

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In dnd

strong wren
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i know what you can be create

frail peak
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A table top rpg game

strong wren
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a dragon

frail peak
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No

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No

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Sw isnt that type of fantasy

strong wren
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oh right i tried

frail peak
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Its a fictional medevil themed setting with slight fantasy

small fjord
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"slight"

strong wren
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a medic devil?

frail peak
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Wha

small fjord
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Wha

strong wren
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Merasmus!

frail peak
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"I leave"

small fjord
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Where you get merasmus from

frail peak
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Tem for too

strong wren
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Damint merasmus get back from canada!

small fjord
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Soldier be snapping necks

frail peak
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Please look at my post why do mine die so fast

small fjord
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Mine didn't even get noticed bruh

frail peak
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Wait u made it already?

small fjord
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Yeah