Tags Rework | Stick War | Page 1

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 1:50 PM

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Primary: Early game units/cheap
examples: crawlers, swordwraths, bombers, etc.

Heavy: necessary meat shields for frontlines
examples: Speartons, Speardeads, Charrogs, etc.

Ranged: long ranged units
examples: Archidons, Eclipsors, Tdeads, Fire Elem, etc.

Support: Their main role is to support allies
Merics, Water Elem, Cycloid, etc.

Necromancer: They have multiple abilities
Magikills, Kais, Gorgons, Infernos, etc.

Hybrid: They are dangerous tanks in various occasions
Juggerknights, Giants, Atreyos, etc.

Assassins: They are good at taking down backline armies
Shadowraths, Rippriders, Crawlers, Shade, etc.

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:05 PM

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these tags can be set at mind or be disregarded, the current tags is useful to assign their actual traits, not just their roles/playstyle.

for example, without the current tags i could assume that zarek is a heavy unit because he is tanky and slow, but then he actually takes bonus dmg to light and is affected by rage. like wise i can assume albowtross as lights since they wouldn’t be that tanky.

or i wouldn’t know that deads are not affected by RoR and is less resistance to poison, and maybe i could think that ripriders are chaos unit and thus would have an auto heal

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unless you don’t mean it as a rework and more on as an extra tag added along with the current ones

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also, there would be more tags that would actually matter in game, that is magic, ranged, melee, deads, giants, and special. which tells what army formation they are included

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:11 PM

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If a new feature gets added that arranges units by their tags, this would be neat

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and you cant just assume everything on your mind, most games have various classes

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:12 PM

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it would still matter less than tags that has actual effects

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im not saying these tags doesn’t matter, but the current tags are more important

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:13 PM

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broken marlin im not saying these tags doesn’t matter, but the current tags are more important

how

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:13 PM

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current tags provide an actual effects

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:13 PM

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Light, Heavy, Magic?

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:13 PM

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yes

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Xiphos having 500HP but getting the light class is weird

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:14 PM

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broken marlin also, there would be more tags that would actually matter in game, that is magic...

while this one that i suggested would tell an actual mechanic in-game

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:15 PM

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Light and Heavy is basically just assuming their HP amount

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:15 PM

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lunar stream Xiphos having 500HP but getting the light class is weird

he is still affected by rage and anti-light, that is the important part

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:15 PM

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So uh

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Xiphos would go like this

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Light/Order/Assassin

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His leap kinda makes him assassin

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Sometimes I use xiphos to fck those archidons up with charged leap

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:16 PM

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he can be everything but ranged according to your tags

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Not really

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he could be killed easily in the frontline

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He isnt really a support besides that rage ability

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Necromancers refer to "mages" and "witches"

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Hes also Mid-Early game

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:18 PM

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he has rage that for support, 2 abilities for necromancer(pretty sure necromancer is a more specific class of spellcaster) is durable and has good dmg like a hybrid, has the leap against backline like an assassin

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and yeah, quite a primary since compared to other generals he is pretty decent at early

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:19 PM

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primary and hybrid could be for xiphos too

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but we are focusing on their actual purpose

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:20 PM

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and see? your tags does not fully determine a unit, they could qualify for multiple tags that could be more than 2, which makes these tags less useful

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Sickles being Heavy too because of their splash damage would be inappropriate

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:21 PM

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E giant for example could both be heavy(in certain decks), ranged, and hybrid, catapult mode plus splash could make it an assassin too

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:21 PM

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I agree with more visible tags getting added to help new players but what is this

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:21 PM

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giant and jugg is both heavy and hybrid, technically speartons if you include atreyos and pike

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:22 PM

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This is just weird

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:22 PM

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also, crawlers as assassin?

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they don’t have the necessary HP and value to reach the backlines without getting through frontlines first

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unless the opponent is stupid to somehow get the backlines upfront

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:23 PM

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How the hell MAGIKILL and INFERNOS considered as fcking necromancers

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:23 PM

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kai is a necromancer though

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Kai makes sense, but magikill and infernos?

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:24 PM

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he does command the dead and can raise deads, both fits the 2 common meaning of the term necromancer

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:24 PM

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necromancers are refered as "mages", " witches", "spawners"

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:24 PM

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I think it's better we just stick to the normal tags we have

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:25 PM

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lunar stream necromancers are refered as "mages", " witches", "spawners"

Or you know, just the goddamn "magic" tag

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Summoner would make more sense than NECROMANCER

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In no way are magikill or infernos necromancers

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:25 PM

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the term necromancer in games or movies often refer to those that can raise the dead, one of the meanings i found about necromancers long ago is that they are simply the ones that can talk to the dead

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:26 PM

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This is just going to scare new players away

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:26 PM

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stoic cave Summoner would make more sense than NECROMANCER

summoner does not fit cycloid or infernos, they do summon things but not actual units, same issue for cycloid and infernos, it won’t describe the other skills of these magic units like fulminate, reap, and hellfist

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:26 PM

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It would at least fit both magikill and Kai

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But necromancer doesn't fit magikill

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:27 PM

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magikills does summon things out of the living world

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just not exactly the dead either

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:28 PM

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They don't summon nor raise the dead, and I doubt that they can talk to spirits, so they 100% don't deserve the necromancer tag

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:29 PM

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anyhow there is no point of this talk because every point of the post is proven wrong, i still have other things to do

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maybe this can still be improved if they still want to make it useful

stoic cave Dec 19, 2023, 2:29 PM

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I'm gonna make my own tag rework or just add more tags to the already existing ones

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:30 PM

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do it

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just want to remind about the hidden tag “creature” which applies to ripriders and crawlers, i believe it prevents them from turning to deads upon death

lunar stream Dec 19, 2023, 2:31 PM

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ripriders are humans riding a creature

broken marlin Dec 19, 2023, 2:31 PM

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ask the devs about it not me

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