Spearton Dead Interaction Chart Project™® (SDICP)

[woven plank]

This chart will list every individual interaction of a theoretical spearton dead coming to the game.

First we must come up with an in-depth spearton dead so we can clearly compare statistics. This is where the community's help will be greatly needed.

Basics: These are things I think we can all agree on. (I hope...)

Concept: The spearton dead is an early game cheap slow low damage tank with a focus on damage reduction from ranged sources, it's training time is moderate it is a chaos, dead, heavy unit.

I need you to help me make some good stats for this unit.

Third draft:

CHAOS/HEAVY/DEAD
Cost: 300g 50c
Hp: 350
Speed: same as toxic dead
Attack speed: 10% slower than spearton
Training time: 17 seconds
Attack: 4 (+2L)
Ability: passive +6 damage reduction from ranged sources, and knockback and stun resistance
Credits:
@clever burrow
@lavish venture
Please help me make this idea better so we can have a good idea of what the spearton dead would do.

[forest blaze]

Interesting, Interesting.

[clever burrow]

I'd say 20% damage reduction to projectiles and knockback and stun resistance

And likely needs to cost 350g and 75m to ensure no one overuses it but still make it useful especially when dealing with crowd control (other than freeze)

[woven plank]

Ok sounds good

I am going to keep the mana the same

[woven plank]

Hmm i am iffy with percentages

But thinking about it a percentage makes more sense

Also this could be a possible counter for e-giants

[clever burrow]

That's what I said

[woven plank]

Not directly

Yes you did

[eternal stump]

This seems like a good unit to stall rangers I belive the iconic headbut shouldd be a thing

[eternal stump]

Here is an idea why not make it so the spearton dead becomes a normal dead after it's helmet is broken, give the helmet a different health bar and when this happens it loses its affects.

[lavish venture]

What about the shield?

[woven plank]

A little complicated for a unit

[eternal stump]

This should help make it a unit seperate from both juggernights and daads

[woven plank]

That is true though

[lavish venture]

Make speardeads a cheap, low damage, decently high HP unit

[eternal stump]

Helmet and shield both same healthbar

[lavish venture]

This way they'll be in-between juggs and deads without overlapping too much

[eternal stump]

Could make it broken though maybe increase build time then

[lavish venture]

?

What

[eternal stump]

I meant it could be too powrful in 2v2

[lavish venture]

2v2 shouldn't matter in this kinds of debates

Everything can be too powerful in 2v2

As long as you have the correct teammate

[eternal stump]

Normally hmm it makes rangrs prctically useless

[lavish venture]

Speardeads don't do sht against ranged

Even though it says that they take less damage from archidons in swl, they still take the same damage as other deads

[eternal stump]

maybe you are right

[lavish venture]

To similar to juggs and spears and basically melee tdead without poison

[brisk shell]

Toxic totality

[lavish venture]

Tdeads have 7 poison with TT and this speardead will have only 3 poison damage which is worse than tdeads base poison damage

[brisk shell]

It's about how much poison each units has

It's about effectiveness

In case your tdeads are killed

You can still poison enemys and spawn deads

[lavish venture]

How you getting your tdeads killed when you have speardeads in front protecting them?

Also poison shouldn't be reliant on RoR

[brisk shell]

Uc units and spells

[lavish venture]

It's meant to do damage until it's cured or kills it's target

[lavish venture]

But tdeads are pretty tanky, are heavy, and only xiphos and kytchu will be able to effectively kill them

[brisk shell]

Zareks does 50 damage

[lavish venture]

And spells RN don't deal enough damage to kill tdeads

[lavish venture]

That's the most unlikely scenario, if someone uses zarek they're 100% trolling or have no idea how sht he is

[brisk shell]

Ice spells to freeze them and uc units with high dps to kill

[lavish venture]

You'll need surge for that

Spears general will get shredded by tdeads if they're not completely frozen

[brisk shell]

I know

But this recent change to the ice spell completely slows them to a halt

[lavish venture]

Snow squall got buffed?

[brisk shell]

Haven't you seen it

If you stay in the ice to loong to slow down waaaaay more

Then normal

[lavish venture]

So staying in the snow squall gradually slows down units until they basically can't move?

[brisk shell]

Pretty much

It's very effective against tdeads

[lavish venture]

Were you the one using it or the enemy?

[brisk shell]

Enemy

[lavish venture]

Are you sure they weren't using surge?

[brisk shell]

Tore my tdeads to shreds with archers

I watched the replay no surge

[lavish venture]

👍

[brisk shell]

Unless I'm wrong

I might've missed it

While watching

But still

[tidal shore]

This is an essay not a suggestion

[brisk shell]

People talk y'know

Giving feed back and other ideas

And stuff

[tidal shore]

Right

[brisk shell]

And we were talking about spells and deads

[tidal shore]

I was under the impression that squall has somehow been made stronger

[brisk shell]

Time to run some tests

[tidal shore]

Ok you do that

What is the population?

Of said unit

Or the spearton dead