loud linden
Now... This won't be a wall text... But...
Statue:
Tower:
Acid Rain:
Lighting storm:
Tesla coil:
I lowered statue health due to every one tower camping due the enemy hiding in base with max army. So now they have to defend the statue and not try to use it like a big tank.
Comebacks are easier due to the removal of the faster training time given from tower.
People wont just garrison their entire army anymore due to the statue having less health.
loud linden
People wont just garrison their entire army anymore due to the statue having les...
They would only do it to heal units.
Say what you think about it @coarse anvil
coarse anvil
how about rush decks
loud linden
how about rush decks
Doesnt matter
Since they are making their army at the same rate as the defender
It will be fair.
The only advantage they would have is more resources.
grizzled crown
This sounds good
Sounds really cool
Me like it
But I think garrisoning should get a buff
coarse anvil
nah i don’t know, not in the mood to think
although i think it sounds good, just finding the negative ones later
grizzled crown
Makes sense
It's just if the statue is weaker then garrisoning would be riskier so it should get a buff like better healing of faster healing castle archers appearing with less pop.
Over all this idea is really good
loud linden
but also kinda over kill on tower
Not really
You are still getting a shit load of resources
true helm
fair point
haughty karma
here we go again
glossy heart
Why did I laugh at this
humble minnow
Why did I laugh at this
Because you have troubles writting actually constructives, smarts and intelligents arguments ?
glossy heart
Because you have troubles writting actually constructives, smarts and intelligen...
You took it wrong lol
I like this idea, if you thought something else.
And you seem to know little about me.
humble minnow
"And you seem to know little about me."
Jeez, sounding like shadow the edgehog here.
You just need to add "no one understand me" and you'd look even more like an edgy, angsty teeanger who thinks he/she looks cool but is just cringe.
humble minnow
I can't help but find it funny. You wrote that I made assumptions about you. Then you make the assumption that I'm angry.
That's not how someone who rage on the internet looks like.
Perhaps I underestimated your sensitivity.
grizzled knot
I feel like acid rain shouldn't effect the one using it
Or should at least effect them a lot less than the enemy
humble minnow
I feel like acid rain shouldn't effect the one using it
I think the double edge sword of acid rain is a concious decision of the devs.
It also give an advantage to the characters immune to it, so it could balance a bit in the favor of chaos when they have tt.
grizzled knot
I think the double edge sword of acid rain is a concious decision of the devs.
...
True, but when chaos doesn't have tt...
humble minnow
True, but when chaos doesn't have tt...
True :/ ...
But in my opinion, the game is already unbalanced in the defavor of chaos, it's hard to balance it right when it's already unbalanced.
How do you think this could make the game better ?
grizzled knot
But in my opinion, the game is already unbalanced in the defavor of chaos, it's ...
Hmmm
I think chaos should just be as good as order
humble minnow
I think chaos should just be as good as order
I wish.
grizzled knot
No empire should be stronger
coarse anvil
i somehow think that chaos is good, its just order being broken with some things
humble minnow
No empire should be stronger
Yes, that'd be fairer.
grizzled knot
Like I've told people before, in movies, the villains aren't usually weak, they're strong af
So why is order so much stronger than chaos
humble minnow
i somehow think that chaos is good, its just order being broken with some things
I also think that chaos is good but not as good as order. So I guess our opinions are aligned in some way.
coarse anvil
simply lack of chaos content
grizzled knot
Yes, that'd be fairer.
Yes
grizzled knot
simply lack of chaos content
I may be wrong, but the only chaos units I've heard of that are confirmed are marrowkai, Medusa, and crawlers
As for order
Well..
humble minnow
Like I've told people before, in movies, the villains aren't usually weak, they'...
I know, it make no sense ! Why the order have the magikills ? Spawning minions out of thin air ? Sounds like bad guy trick to me )-:<
coarse anvil
are we sure that magis or mera are order?
grizzled knot
Magis
pure owl
are we sure that magis or mera are order?
Magis order
humble minnow
simply lack of chaos content
Yes and also, I think toxic dead should be buffed. In the past, it was worth 3 population. Now 5 population and there is no upgrades ? Don't make sense to me.
Or the magikill who can now kill eclipsors...
coarse anvil
but mera?
pure owl
Mera... Chaos i think
grizzled knot
are we sure that magis or mera are order?
Go on yt, and look at people using secret units
Mera is order, if I'm not wrong
coarse anvil
don’t want to spoil myself
grizzled knot
Alright
coarse anvil
Yes and also, I think toxic dead should be buffed. In the past, it was worth 3 p...
ive been testing tdeads lately
pure owl
Mera is order, if I'm not wrong
She got beat by thera
And... Idk next
The only i know that's mera not order now
coarse anvil
i say they are pretty strong, especially with RoR BUT, did you know tdead’s dps is listed as 3.2 dps
pure owl
Yes and also, I think toxic dead should be buffed. In the past, it was worth 3 p...
Nah, tdead already op, besides only 3 - 4 Tdead died of UC atreyos and UC spearos
humble minnow
i say they are pretty strong, especially with RoR BUT, did you know tdead’s dps ...
Well, to be fair, I knew someone who told me that they were op in his opinion.
coarse anvil
i think my only complaint about tdeads is their slow atk speed, even then i see an army of only tdeads being able to shredd zarek very easily, with zarek a light unit with high hp
humble minnow
I just think they need a little something more. I don't know...A splash damage ? A toxic aura around them to make them better at melee ? A way to slow ennemies ? Just a little passive ability.
coarse anvil
tdead’s unique traits just make it an odd unit, and will be especially weak with this few cards in the game, however with more cards i think we will see them more common and more annoying
humble minnow
Nah, tdead already op, besides only 3 - 4 Tdead died of UC atreyos and UC spearo...
In my opinion, Tdeads are not as powerfull as speartons and archidons.
pure owl
In my opinion, Tdeads are not as powerfull as speartons and archidons.
Because tdead is HEAVY destroyers
humble minnow
i think my only complaint about tdeads is their slow atk speed, even then i see ...
That's a fair point.
pure owl
Besides i think TT can affect to Tdead
humble minnow
tdead’s unique traits just make it an odd unit, and will be especially weak with...
Well, I hope you are right. Nut your point is based on an hypothetical future :/ .
coarse anvil
Besides i think TT can affect to Tdead
yes it can
cold cosmos
lightning storm 💀
humble minnow
Because tdead is HEAVY destroyers
And they get heavily destroyed by speartons who are heavy units.
coarse anvil
tdeads can have 270 hp with ror, 7 poison dmg with tt, and other ranged,heavy,dead effects you can have
coarse anvil
And they get heavily destroyed by speartons who are heavy units.
i don’t think so, i think its mainly archidons or swords that can shredd tdeads
humble minnow
Besides i think TT can affect to Tdead
Yes, it increase their damages. I'm actually content by that. But other Tdeads users says that it's not worth the cost. I personally think that giving a passive ability to the tdead when tt is maxed could make it more viable.
coarse anvil
i think a tdead can 1v1 a jugg and almost win, a jugg who easily wins against speartons even with pike stand in
humble minnow
i don’t think so, i think its mainly archidons or swords that can shredd tdeads
Well, from my experience, speartons can also defeat them. Althought, I play less then before, so I could have loss my touch with actuality.
pure owl
i think a tdead can 1v1 a jugg and almost win, a jugg who easily wins against sp...
Nah, juggs can beat it
coarse anvil
Nah, juggs can beat it
yeah jugg always win, but with small hp left
thats not including glacial fletching
humble minnow
i think a tdead can 1v1 a jugg and almost win, a jugg who easily wins against sp...
I'm not sure for the tdead vs jugger. But I think the reason why jugger is nice against archidons is because of its speed which the tdead don't have. So I don't get why you bring that in this specific topic.
cold cosmos
blazing bolts tdead is insane, they can try to snipe your archers and will deplete their health so fast
coarse anvil
blazing bolts tdead is insane, they can try to snipe your archers and will deple...
probably even faster than the actual tdead hitting them
humble minnow
blazing bolts tdead is insane, they can try to snipe your archers and will deple...
I don't know, that's an interesting point worth thinking about.
But the fact that tdead have less range than archidons is another factor of why they need a buff in my opinion.
coarse anvil
not just range, projectile range too
cold cosmos
I don't think tdeads should get a nerf, I think they should be rebalanced entirely
pure owl
How about this
𝘎𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘢 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘰𝘦
coarse anvil
i like tdeads, wouldn’t want a change that strays away from them
cold cosmos
How about this
𝘎𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘢 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘰𝘦
humble minnow
I don't think tdeads should get a nerf, I think they should be rebalanced entire...
So you think they should get buffed ? Because that's what I think.
coarse anvil
ive thought before of an ability for tdeads, where they spit in close range and applies an AOE poison and stuns 1 unit
cold cosmos
So you think they should get buffed ? Because that's what I think.
I mean just nerf or buff them anyway that don't limit them to being used only by deadspam
haughty karma
Because you have troubles writting actually constructives, smarts and intelligen...
shock
sounds like me
coarse anvil
me too
humble minnow
How about this
𝘎𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘢 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘰𝘦
Yes ! That'd make a lot of people satisfied.
haughty karma
a walking mini castle dead
fear
pure owl
Yes ! That'd make a lot of people satisfied.
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘧 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 20%
coarse anvil
harsh
haughty karma
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘧 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 20%
bro is gonna move like a dead spearton in SWL!!!!
pure owl
𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘭
coarse anvil
Hello Peter.
humble minnow
sounds like me
Generally, I'm polite but I have enough of idiotic people s***talking because they think they look cool -_- .
When I arrived on this server, I treated everyone with respect even if I don't agree. But after so long in here, I realized that when people act in a shitty way, you have to talk to them like they deserve instead of how you should.
humble minnow
a walking mini castle dead
That'd be fun indeed ^^.
Once, I suggested a "tank" like dead. The undead siege machine x) . It's a bit like a walking castle made of deads XD .
coarse anvil
depends, some are just too new to grasp the fan-ideas channel
humble minnow
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘧 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 20%
But...they are already so slow...
Why ?
haughty karma
Generally, I'm polite but I have enough of idiotic people s***talking because th...
I didn't even think im cool.
I just go to #1046599856736706630 and type a message or 2 and leave.
pure owl
But...they are already so slow...
Why ?
𝘞𝘩𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵
haughty karma
haughty karma
I didn't even think im cool.
I just go to <#1046599856736706630> and type a me...
Besides , I am immature as hell
humble minnow
𝘞𝘩𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵<:devious:1051972034806173808>
coarse anvil
question, would it be good or make sense for deads, summoned deads, and spirit deads to move at a random speed like in legacy? this excludes Tdeads
cold cosmos
That'd be fun indeed ^^.
Once, I suggested a "tank" like dead. The undead siege ...
the fun part was sarcasm
humble minnow
Besides , I am immature as hell<:kekw:1051972045359026298>
I could tell by your use of .
humble minnow
*the fun part was sarcasm*
Which is why I played into your sarcasm ^^.
cold cosmos
huh ok
humble minnow
question, would it be good or make sense for deads, summoned deads, and spirit d...
It could make troup coordination difficult, I think.
coarse anvil
thats kinda the point
humble minnow
Also, when there is a tower tesla and you need your deads to stay away from the range. Your idea could make it more difficult.
haughty karma
I could tell by your use of <:kekw:1051972045359026298> .
ok bye , have a nice day
humble minnow
thats kinda the point
But don't you think chaos is already disadvantaged compare to order ? Why make it more difficult :/ ?
humble minnow
ok bye , have a nice day
You too ^^.
haughty karma
You too ^^.
❤️
coarse anvil
civilbreak will be shocked to see this amount of conversation barely related to the idea
humble minnow
civilbreak will be shocked to see this amount of conversation barely related to ...
Yes, I was thinking the same, I feel a bit bad about that :/ .
coarse anvil
nah it will be fine
cold cosmos
what is the statues current health
pure owl
what is the statues current health
1500 probably
coarse anvil
really?
cold cosmos
that's quite a bit tbh
coarse anvil
count each bar on the statue
pure owl
Idk, took 15 minutes to destroy statues woth tower zap
cold cosmos
It's probably like 2.5k hp or something
coarse anvil
since each towerzap depletes exaclty one hp bar
cold cosmos
no way it's about the health of a giant
so this statue hp nerf makes it basically less hp than a max monstrosity giant
humble minnow
IMO, it make sense that the statue have a lot of hp.
haughty karma
https://tenor.com/view/friend-gumball-gif-5667775
you really used the wrong gif for this particular situation
humble minnow
you really used the wrong gif for this particular situation
haughty karma
Somehow that makes it scare me
coarse anvil
this gave me an idea
what if, nerf the center tower, but it makes the statue more vulnerable instead by increasing its maximum dps taken, either increasing on each level or triggers at lvl 4.
icy trench
I lowered statue health due to every one tower camping due the enemy hiding in b...
no
its worst ıdea ı hear
d
nerfıng statue just allow tower turtle even more powerful
icy trench
Now... This won't be a wall text... But...
Statue:
- 1250 health. (Nerf)
Tower...
acid rian need delete we have better option called world ablaze ınstead of nerfıng tesla cost nerf time ebcause ıt have short coldown nerfıng cost not have meanıng because easy getable about tower we stıll need some boost or tower meanıngless nerfıng zap dont have meanıng and tf nerfıng statue some people use statue as a mıd game shıeld for counter attack
actualy only acid rain idea good but best ıdea ıs dleetıng ıt
we have world abzle
lemme rework for you statue damage per second ıncrase to 150 nerf make tesla time to 75 second about tower make all stats half about zap keep it 200 ebcause turtle delete acid rain because we have world ablaze
about lighning storm tf you buffıng it
do you have any ıdea what wıll happen ıf ıt hıt twıce
ıt have 18 damage and 11 chain
if you just charge all unıts ıt totaly deal 77 damage
with your idea 154
154 damage per unıt not sound balanced wıth 150 crystak spell
ı dont even ınclude normal damage
loud linden
nerfıng statue just allow tower turtle even more powerful
? But I nerfed the tower... It now doesn't give the same benfits, so it should be fair to take it back.
icy trench
? But I nerfed the tower... It now doesn't give the same benfits, so it should b...
nerfıng tower hp not enpugh
dont forgot we cant deal more than 400 wkıthout tower bonuses
loud linden
Of course
icy trench
Of course
as you know we dont have tower bonuses
we fkn cant deal more than 400 damage to statue
1250 hp not enough
ınstead of ıt ıncrase towers second per damage
icy trench
also old tower have %20 tower bonus
loud linden
...
icy trench
english not my mother language
loud linden
HOW??
loud linden
english not my mother language
ah
icy trench
HOW??
because ım learnıng enlish
lemme explain what ı mean
slowly
on turtle meta you cant deal more than 400 damage to statue
because turtle broken op as you know
castle archers annoyıng aim bot
but after tower get buff we able to make tank cycle so we can destroy statue even wıthout zap
unless enemy have brain
ınstead of nerfıng statue
lets nerf turtle
then nerf tower
like explain my idea lets make brilliance make upgrades %40 cheaper and only %50 refund
also about ca
lets nerf ca to 20+5 heavy %20
thıs must make ca less dangerus agaınıst heavy but better agaınıst early game
about tower
let just make %10 %20 %25 first one come when you get tower second one after 1 mınute and thırd one after 3 mınute total 5 mınute also ıf you hold tower total 8 mınute ıt start zap (turtle nerfed so ıt just forpunısh ıf enemy refuse out of base) deal 250 damage every mınute ıf enemy reach to mıd zap stop (so enemy have total 14 mınute whıch they allow to attack but they wıll get less defance)
about acid pain
why we have acid pain when we can have world ablaze
its a secret card work same with acid rain
but fire
so not unlimited
but have free ror
loud linden
I know
It has to get a rework
but I already did one.
So it would just be a repost
grizzled crown
So why is order so much stronger than chaos
I think it's because the devs are focusing on the order campaign. Think about it, the top priority is the campaign which so far they are working on the order one, if you were a dev would you make units and spells and upgrades that wouldn't even be in the campaign?
I think that everything they are making will appear in the campaign because it is the main focus... for now.
Later when they make the chaos campaign they will focus their resources on chaos cards.
coarse anvil
i dunno why we can’t just wait about what the devs are planning, this game is in beta!
grizzled crown
i dunno why we can’t just wait about what the devs are planning, this game is in...
YES
The reason why everything is unbalanced why order is better than chaos is because IT AIN'T EVEN FINISHED
coarse anvil
we don’t even have a trace of elementals yet
grizzled crown
we don’t even have a trace of elementals yet
Yes
I think devs kinda handled development slightly poorly. It seems like they promised so much yet, but didn't realize how long it would take to do all those things
So everyone is frustrated in way
coarse anvil
and also safe to say the devs is still experimenting about balance like the center tower, and maybe some may look unbalanced because the devs are adjusting it to fit with other cards that isn’t in the game yet
grizzled crown
But if we wait it will come
I think the best thing is to be positive about the development
That we get
grizzled crown
and also safe to say the devs is still experimenting about balance like the cent...
Yeah
coarse anvil
idk how big the dev team is, but we seem to not be informed much of what the devs is planning the game to be, either its a surprise or they really don’t know, its bad for the community
nvm i forgot some devs are chatting on other channels and spoiling things
grizzled crown
idk how big the dev team is, but we seem to not be informed much of what the dev...
Yeah i think they raised our expectations a little too high. It is hard to wait for so long but I will try.
glass thunder