#PC randomly restarts unless a steam game is loaded.

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ashen goblet
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I dont know what had happened. I’m having some new and super annoying issues; my pc is randomly restarting. It started after a game session on hogwarts, and it’s never happened before. It seems like every 3-5 mins it just automatically restarts.
My computer seems to run fine if a steam game is loaded, but as soon as I close the game( I’ve tried god of war, and hogwarts) it randomly restarts.
Turned off auto-restart, and did sys restore to before my last updates. System is i5 13600k z690 asrock intel arc a770, 32gb 3200 ram. Still happening, and I’m losing my mind. Any help or troubleshooting advice is highly welcomed! Please help!

cerulean folio
ashen goblet
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Yes. Only stays on if I load into a game before it restarts.

cerulean folio
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I've never seen this before so it's gonna be a bit of searching

ashen goblet
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Hold shift while hitting restart on the start menu? I know right, I’m totally stumped.

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In windows defender, it looks like my local security authority is off and I can’t change it.

cerulean folio
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Did you already try sfc and dism?

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To fix that issue

ashen goblet
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I’m sry I’m a newb, no I haven’t, not rly familiar

cerulean folio
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No worries

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Open command prompt as admin and type "sfc /scannow"

ashen goblet
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I see, on it

cerulean folio
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That searches and fixes your windows install for corrupted/missing files or similar

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For context ^

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Might want to keep a game open in the background by the way

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It takes a few minutes

ashen goblet
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says I must be administrator, I am?

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I’ve got one open, but it wouldn’t let me scan

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Sfc/ scannow

cerulean folio
ashen goblet
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How am I not administrator

cerulean folio
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Did you open command prompt as admin

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Or did you open it normally

ashen goblet
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You must be admin runnin a console session in order to use the arc utility

cerulean folio
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Arc?

ashen goblet
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How do you as admin? Thx

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No sry auto correct

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Sfc*

cerulean folio
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Search for command prompt in windows, and instead of open click open as administrator

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Got it

ashen goblet
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Scanning now! Thanks for your patience

cerulean folio
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No problem!

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Hopefully it fixes the defender bug

ashen goblet
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Venison jerky ftw btw:)

cerulean folio
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Maybe even the restarts

cerulean folio
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I've actually never had any

ashen goblet
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U gotta! I live way up north, kinda a right of passage.. so it’s done.

cerulean folio
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Fair

ashen goblet
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Windows resource protection, found corrupt files and successfully repaired them. For online repairs, details are included in the CBS. Log file located at blah blah blah.

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So should I restart?

cerulean folio
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Oh good, it did something

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Yeah restart and see if defender works

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Hopefully, maybe even so, it fixes the random restarts

ashen goblet
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Just shut down, then will reboot.

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It’s a newer build and I’ve had no issues prior, I rly appreciate your help!

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So far so good, usually took like 3-5 mins before restarting

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Holding breath! Lol

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Oh nooo it did it again!!

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Was working fine so I decided to try to open discord as admin, and it restarted again!

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Running scan again, without a game to keep it on.

cerulean folio
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Does defender turn on at least?

ashen goblet
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Got to the end of the scan and it restarted again!! I’m losing it man

cerulean folio
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That's unfortunate D:

ashen goblet
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I’m gonna turn a game on, will check defender

cerulean folio
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Might have to try the shift restart thing in a bit to see if we can narrow down the cause

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Sounds good

ashen goblet
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Under core isolation, my lsa protection is off, and I can’t change it.

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Hold shift and click restart?

cerulean folio
ashen goblet
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I’m back in the troubleshooting menus

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What do I do from here?

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Uninstall the latest quality and feature updates

cerulean folio
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I forget

ashen goblet
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I can reset the pc,

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Startup repair, start up settings, command, prompt, uninstall, updates, UEFI, firmware settings, system, restore

cerulean folio
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Anyway startup settings

ashen goblet
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cerulean folio
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Okay that's good
If the warning doesn't bother you id just wait for a fix, it's on and working either way

civic rose
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@ashen goblet just asking what PSU you using?

ashen goblet
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Deep cool 750w 80+gold

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I was wondering if it could be that aswell..

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I fixed the LSA issue, fingers crossed that did it

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Damnit, still shut off!!!

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Omg this is maddening.

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Could be the gpu drivers, I dont know

ashen goblet
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Tried everything except resetting windows and replacing psu. I updated bios, ddu my gpu drivers, have yet to reinstall. But I set my bios to default, after update.. still happening. I’m almost certain it’s my psu.. I’m lil perplexed

cerulean folio
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Thing is I won't be home till a few hours so I can't check the log output until then

ashen goblet
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No problem, I’d be down to try that out! I’ve been looking over that link and there are a couple other things I can try, but it can be difficult do do anything as it may restart at any time.

cerulean folio
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I see

ashen goblet
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How do I test the psu with hwinfo or anything else

cerulean folio
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The log basically tells you if anything happened to cause the restart, since it tells you the activity in the PSU rails, clock speeds, power draw, etc

ashen goblet
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Right on!! I’ll run that tmr nite after work. Hit a wall with it tnt, taking a mental health break 😉

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Which test do you recommend?

cerulean folio
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Ight, and take care!
Any known test should work but stuff like cinebench, prime95, etc for CPU work; furmark, ..what other GPU stresses are there?

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If your PC doesn't restart in those stresses, close the stresses and it prolly will restart then

ashen goblet
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Running prime95 right now, and have hwinfo up in sensor mode, this is what it’s sayin, hasn’t restarted yet.

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Everything else in hwinfo looks good but the cpu

ashen goblet
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As soon as I stopped the test for prime95, it restarted again.

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Got warnings for distributed com 10001, 10016, any ideas?

ashen goblet
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I got an event in event viewer that was WHEA LOG 18, and upon further inspection it says that there was a fatal error with the cpu. So should I send it in for rma?

ashen goblet
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Still happening. Tried chkdsk, dism /online/ cleanup-image /restorehealth, and Sfc scannow. . Event viewer say’s distributed com 10001, 10005, 10006 and 10016 respectively, also WHEA logger 1 & 18. I’m also getting kernel power-41,

  WHEA LOG 18 tells me that a fatal hardware error has occurred reported by a component; processor core 

error source; machine check exemption error tape; cash hierarchy error / and I found this on the issue; ‘Machine Check Exception cache hierarchy error – The error is encountered due to overclocking or malfunctioning hardware. Check for both these aspects.’

And since I’ve never overclocked, it has to be hardware.

 I tried each ram stick one at a time, it’s not the memory, also disconnected the gpu and still occurred, so not the gpu either. I’m guessing it is the cpu or psu. But kind of at a loss of how to diagnose without replacement parts. Will likely reach out to IT.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Gsmkcf

This is my first build, only a few months old. No issues prior.
I’m so lost. Super frustrated. Please help

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Feels like a psu issue.. so I’m going to get a new one, though I could use recommendations for a replacement for this build. Thanks! Also, my boss recommended I try the software ‘combofix’ so I’ll try that aswell.

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Wondering if my cpu isn’t operating properly.

frosty shard
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my 13600k also aoverheats with a 240 aio

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but im on a 240mm

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it seems like the cpu is overheating

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try repasting the cpu

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also check if youve removed the plastic from the cooler's copper

frosty shard
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WHEA LOG 18 tells me that a fatal hardware error has occurred reported by a component; processor core

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just read your pc part picker

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this is an indication of a problem with the cpu, more than likely the overheating

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i can only assume you forgot the plastic peel on the cooler

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or the thermal paste

ashen goblet
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H150i works fine on signal rgb and keeps cpu cool, the only time I’ve gotten any temps above 75ish was during stress test. And that did not kick it off. Only low load seems to.

ashen goblet
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Disabling C states in bios seems to have corrected this. I wonder if the chip needs rma

frosty shard
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this shouldnt be an issue at the first llace

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weird

old wigeon
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my first guess is PSU issue. somehow itll run fine under load (while hot) but under no load as it gets colder maybe some component/solder joint is failing?

covert steeple
vocal knot
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Your CPU temps show it’s overheating a bit

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Make sure the cooler and fans are installed correctly and running right

covert steeple
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You should buy the Thermalright 1700 anti-bending bracket. You definitely need a better cooler! Which cooler do you currently have? In this video, he mentioned an anti-bending bracket from another brand, but with the same design. For a 13600k, you need a really powerful air cooler or at least a 280 water cooler. Otherwise, you'll always have problems. And be sure to use Arctic MX-4 thermal paste. Or you could just get the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 water cooler, which already includes the anti-bending bracket and provides the best cooling.
https://youtu.be/zHXZMtWOVJ4?t=399

heady totem
covert steeple