spoiler-chat

[frail nymph]

Where lore I wanna see too

[cyan crest]

Isn't the geneticist another unrelated archemidian in the synthetis imprint?

[supple dagger]

She's never connected to genetics

[frail nymph]

Yeah the detron crewman geneticist is just some random dude who created the crewmen which corpus eventually began breeding and using

[supple dagger]

Just that she's a well known Archimedean. She's far more likely to be some kind of physiologist

[cyan crest]

Yeah it's not Marge

[frail nymph]

She was capable of creating theories on deep pressure bends, where bends is a medical condition IRL so yeah

[supple dagger]

She didn't really need to make those theories, those are just well known affects

[frail nymph]

She is the one who theorised them

Oh wait nevermind, it was as she "suspected," not "theorised"

[supple dagger]

As the reason Rell was acting weird

[frail nymph]

More accurately, it was her perspective of the reason for why the Tenno were in pain, as compared to what Rell described as the reasons.

The comparison to "deep pressure bends" is kinda cool. Sudden rise from diving in deep ocean vs suddenly coming back from diving deep into the void

[craggy drum]

Albrecht also made his first journey into the void in a Seriglass Bell.

Like a Diving Bell, but instead of the deep ocean where the pressure will kill you, it’s the Void, where being exposed to it without protection runs the risk of madness and death

[vale moon]

spoiler alert there no tenno death in every warframe storyline

[supple dagger]

That's technically an unknown

[subtle crown]

Rell.

[cursive mesa]

im going to just put this here cause this is the first time ive seen this (as a new player, at least) & then go back to running my railjack missions

[opal rapids]

Ah yes. You also might hear some funny words around there.

[supple dagger]

i hear it all over the railjack

[craggy drum]

You’ll also occasionally hear it tapping against the glass

[cursive mesa]

only noticed that after sitting by it for a minute
the man in the wall is probably one of my favorite characters atm

i like to go back there just to hear what they have to say

[craggy drum]

“Something’s out there Kiddo… watching us”

Dunno why I love that particular line so much.

[cursive mesa]

gosh. yeah.
to be honest combined with the big finger in the case it makes me think of like
a literal giant within the void, within space, watching, so large that all we can do is scrape parts off of it, use it for our devices

i think my favorite line is
"You mad at me kiddo? Did you forget? You owe me."

[craggy drum]

The fact that, that particular line was supposedly originally said by the Tenno’s father while on the Zariman, maybe before the adults fully succumbed to the Void Madness is chilling.

[cursive mesa]

YEAHH
man im so excited for angels of zariman i've been trying VERY desprately to finish up and complete new war before it releases

[craggy drum]

So am I!

Ahh the New War was good. Have you started it yet or still just getting ready for it?

[cursive mesa]

trying to get a necramech cause im free to play 💔
but ive heard a bit abt it and im Excited ....

[kind glade]

\o/

[trim tree]

I've seen operators amps that shoot to like a jet of energy. will that work with the 77 meta?

[zenith jacinth]

A what now

[scarlet basalt]

kinda hope we will fight that thing one day

[torpid lantern]

I dont wanna

[scarlet basalt]

mirage looking weird

[swift pond]

Giga Erra

A Blunderlyst, if one would.

[past kiln]

amalgam jackal

[scarlet basalt]

slaptalyst

[ivory surge]

Donewithyourcraplyst

[scarlet basalt]

if they will ever try to animate him,i kinda hope this lad is running at you then beat the hell out of you with their fist

non flying sentients are the most terrifying thing in this game

[ivory surge]

Power walking to beat the living crap out of you

[scarlet basalt]

-Yeah sentient are supposed to be terraforming machine
-Even this one ?

[ivory surge]

"It terraforms the land with your face"

[scarlet basalt]

Orokin would be like :
Yeah but maybe there are living thing inside Tau system so we should beat the hell out of them with giant robots that run at mach20 speed

[ivory surge]

Man I would love to see the Tau system, i Imagine It like the Alien city in subnautica below zero

[scarlet basalt]

I doubt that sentients have confirmed either there are living being or nothing there...
Which is strange,like any sentients could have said anything,we could even ask Lotus...But nothing ?

[pliant warren]

So with the end of the new war, are the sentients still allies or does hunhow want our heads again?

[scarlet basalt]

he still hate us,but we saved his daughter 👍

[flat shadow]

Anyone else getting the vibe that Natah was his favorite?

[zenith jacinth]

Noo, where would you get that idea from?
/j

[supple dagger]

She was the lynchpin of the main strategy

[flat shadow]

It seems a little more that that, though

[supple dagger]

archons are difficult

to run away from

i don't like spoler

[swift pond]

Er, mute this channel ig.
#lore-discussion too, spoilers are fair game there as well

[subtle crown]

Well, Natah was the lynchpin for the tenno. Erra got to deal with everyone else.

As we saw in the new war, if Natah did her job then Erra could do his with frightening efficency.

[supple dagger]

im busy doing the new war quest and the second mission that one in fortuna and its hard

[past kiln]

Watch where the deacons go

Use drifter 2 if necessary

[flat shadow]

and make a note of where you're really supposed to go. I got to the actual door four times before I realized that wasn't my destination.

[supple dagger]

i got past fortuna now

[supple dagger]

cant... at my point of time now....

[karmic belfry]

I dont know if I should be asking this but is ||drifter/operator choice permanent||?

also how many parts are left to the questline after this^

[wild copper]

not permanent

and the new war is the last main story quest right now
angels of the zariman should come out this month

[gritty pike]

Another preview of AoZ on the 8th, may come out around a week or two after.

[zenith jacinth]

The part after the choice is the last part

[karmic belfry]

oh no

i dont know which form to choose

ayo where are my boosters

[gritty pike]

just get gud

[wild copper]

Hover over the shopping cart icon, they're in that section

[karmic belfry]

Ty, but it turns out that boosters from that quest dont actually show up until you rejoin the game

Or probably return to orbiter from mission but i didnt test that

[swift pond]

On the subject, I'm torn on whether to go through AoZ as Operator or Drifter:
Both would be revisiting the Zariman and no doubt a good chunk of memories/trauma, but something tells me I'd be missing out on some juicy dialogue/interactions either way.

Hopefully it's won't be as difficult to replay as New War was.

[sharp matrix]

eternal bounce

[supple dagger]

what archon is the weakest? Nira, Amar or Boreal? im at that point of time in the new war now and i dont know which archon is weaker... i cant tell because i keep dying to each one and i do doge the attacks

[supple dagger]

hehe boing boing

[ivory surge]

From my experience they're not that hard, Just annoying

If we by that Amar is probably at the top

[supple dagger]

hehe im in danger....

[amber siren]

If your stuck on one well A Amar use your 3 and it makes him glow yellow when he makes clones

B boreal use the smoke bomb then walk in when he Screeches and hit him with the bow

My guide is just keep moving and sliding

[ivory surge]

The Snake girl (Nira was It?) When She blocks your Attack Just go around

[supple dagger]

nira ya

[amber siren]

Do I have to fight her? I got the other 2 but like I don't got to fight her I'm off to save natah

[ivory surge]

Dunno

[supple dagger]

i think u fight her soon

but not in drift/operator mode

i really dont know about that part

[amber siren]

Ah alr

[opal rapids]

Yeah the last archon doesn't really have time to use mechanics if you brought even half decent gear

[ionic sleet]

Please do not ask for free currency/items.

Please use the appropriate channels. Find your platform in #757632548842111086

[next bronze]

Tramboline

[sharp matrix]

lol

[supple dagger]

i feel this was a good choice....

[karmic belfry]

Is corinth prime as op as it feels in the new war

[obsidian anchor]

Hello friends, please tell me has the cross-platform already been launched or not?

[real niche]

No

[obsidian anchor]

Thanks

[supple dagger]

i think so....

[cursive mesa]

thinking that this might be post new war if anything at all but does there ever end up being something you can do with sentient limbs you knock off or is it just a cool thing that happens???

[kindred briar]

that's been around since before TNW and no, they just lay there until the Sentient picks their arm back up

[cursive mesa]

ohhh oke... i was wonderin why they just sit there
thats neat i thought only necramechs did that

[thick jolt]

I always thought it was leftover code from the development of arm canons

[heavy obsidian]

New War may show it’s strength against very low level enemies but it can also be just as strong outside of it (especially with Galvanized Mods and Arcanes)

[swift pond]

As a man who simps for regular Corinth, I assure you both versions slap.

Prime moreso for AoE

I'm just a stubborn git who likes his pump-action reload.

[heavy obsidian]

Corinth/Prime is one of those Shotguns that’s still strong even without the Galvanized Savvy bug

[swift pond]

One primary fire to the face and HunMun usually takes care of the rest.

Beautiful piece, it is

[supple dagger]

i like the reload sound, not sure if normal and prime have different

[heavy obsidian]

They do

One reloads like a typical Shotgun, and the other lifts the top, and slot in the Magazine before closing the top and pump

[swift pond]

Main differences are:
20 clip size instead of 5
Full reload instead of pump/one at a time
The alt fire can be manually detonated (most important difference)

Alt fire also consumes 4 ammo instead of 1 but you effectively still have 5 shots with it anyhow.

[errant charm]

I broke so many corpus windows with that alt fire on the old tile set

[past kiln]

Weird part is them buffing the altfire damage with the prime

Primary fire getting buffed would be a lot better but whatever ig

[ivory surge]

Do you guys like op or drifter more?

[supple dagger]

Operator

drifter on TNW felt more like a standalone character than the operator which imo is just a complement to your frames

[swift pond]

I'd like Drifter more if they had any dialogue or felt remotely distinct from the Operator outside New War.

[supple dagger]

at least if you could wield nataruk/sirocco and have the more tech-oriented skillset
considering the drifter wasn't as experienced in the void as the operator i think?

[ivory surge]

at least let me put my cosmetics on Drifter too...

I worked hard for my vahd armor

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter knows the void better than op

They just don't know how to use void powers as well as op does

[supple dagger]

yeah that's where i'm going

drifter was relying more on tech to fight

[cunning copper]

I just want the harrier suit and transmission dialogue for drifter, and i'd never go back to operator

[gritty willow]

drifter's camp has a tilted puddle

[past kiln]

Ye if drifter got operator clothes and whatnot + unique voice lines I’d play them

[scarlet basalt]

it's so strange that Eudico and konzu always says : someone else is pulling the string
Eudico state that people are now willingly getting the veil
I'm saying about naarmer faction

maybe the veil is like a drug
And people that are still willing to take it are drug addict 🧠
We are fighting crackhead

[opal rapids]

Well, to some people, it's easier not to think

[gusty breach]

eudico has a dialogue bit where she mentions that even she enjoyed the veil. it was so much easier to not think or worry. it was comforting to be controlled. thats why people still willingly put it on, its easier to just not worry and let someone else do all the thinking for you. less stress, less concern, less pain

[supple dagger]

probably because of all the weight on her shoulders

[gusty breach]

thats another factor, some people find it more relieving than comforting

to be fair, the mask itself is literally the gaslighter 3000. it talks to you, convincing you that you enjoy it

[supple dagger]

and how biz mentions that while rude zuud hears voices, eudico sees ghosts

[gusty breach]

to be fair, i think zuud actually has voices. like, other people in her head

i think thats mentioned during the exploiter orb mission

[supple dagger]

i think in other parts too, idr

[gusty breach]

...what?

it just warned me no profanity

i didnt have any?

[supple dagger]

i believe not

bot trips sometimes

[gusty breach]

i see

anyways, what im excited about is the fact duviri was actually mentioned during new war

like, duviri feels like that "he who shall not be named" in the community rn, but still. the drifter says something about his time on/in/with "duviri", i cant remember the exact quote. we do know that in fortuna theres a few other dialogue bits that mention duviri, referencing that word as a name for what we can assume are people, with their 'home' named after them

looking back at the duviri paradox trailer, we can actually see the zariman, or at least part of it, sitting and somewhat melded with the terrain

thing is, its almost exactly what the zariman looks like in the angels of zariman reveal dev stream

from the looks of it, the zariman is half in the void, half out of it

[supple dagger]

👀

[gusty breach]

and if the plains of duviri take place in the void, its entirely possible that the social hub could connect to, maybe not immediately but eventually, the plains of duviri

even if we look at the distinct design of either version, the duviri zariman segment looks like the head of the vessel, with the angels zariman segment looking somewhat like a rear engine

if it functions similar to a railjack, then the circle/cylinder in the center is likely the void engine itself, so it would make sense to have a front and back. and its probably hollow too, if we still want to reference the railjack

i could be wrong here, but there does seem to be a bit of consistency here

perhaps we only have access to some of the halls of the zariman at first, but eventually we unlock more pathways and find out way to the front end, allowing us access to the plains

[supple dagger]

i wonder how big will the expansion be

[gusty breach]

im not putting too much hope into angels quite yet. im expecting what they've shown us and not much more. thats why im mentioning how it could be used as a multi-stage release, angels being a catalyst for duviri paradox

[supple dagger]

possibly, not exactly sure if TNW was advertised for longer than this

[gusty breach]

true. duviri for all we know could have been in the works since its announcement trailer, and they've just been slowly putting it together alongside everything else. but i wouldnt put too much faith in that concept, i had a lot of hope for new war, and was looking forward to some good post quest content, but alas we didnt get much more than an awesome quest and some cosmetic changes

[supple dagger]

and a heavy slash to fps on open worlds

but yeah, could be that maybe they cut corners on TNW to focus on the upcoming content?

let's still just take it with a grain of salt

[gusty breach]

mhm. its worth considering, but not worth pinning our bets on

if im right ill be ecstatic, i love the vibe of the void and would love to have more direct content associated with it

[supple dagger]

yeah, it can have a ton of possible content

[gusty breach]

also, theres the fact that the events portrayed in the duviri paradox trailer would have been prior to the events of new war, or even earlier. in the trailer, we see who we can assume is the drifter, unable to use void energy. their mask we can supposedly see in the 'apartment' we meet them in during the new war, or so ive read. not to mention he says "It's a lot easier than riding a horse" when first using transference, which pays homage to him, well, riding a horse in the trailer

so if we do go to duviri, we wont be taking place at the same time the trailer portrayed, it would be some time afterwards

unless they do some time travel shenanigans

which is possible, they did drill it into our head that time isnt linear. the fact we took a test on it during the new war is hilarious

wonder how many people got it wrong cause they werent paying attention to the story

[supple dagger]

i missed like one or two questions because the answers were too close

but got the gist of it at least

[gusty breach]

ooof

i honestly was really hyped over that mission lmao. i love theoretical physics and its exploitation in video game lore xD

[supple dagger]

yeah was interesting to see the new concepts though i felt a bit that they were throwing stuff at the player a bit too fast

[gusty breach]

true. way too fast paced

i feel it kinda played more like a poorly paced visual novel than what i would have expected, but hey, i still enjoyed the lore dumps, and the fact ballas is gone

[merry urchin]

wonder if it will be any fun

[thick jolt]

im more curious about the focus rework hope we get the dev workshop after this devstream

[autumn turret]

we probably will

[gusty breach]

im looking forward to the respec lmao. i made dumb focus sinks early on, and i havent had a good way to get focus until recently. ill take this opportunity to get the perks i need, then gather focus for what i cant immediately get

[autumn turret]

if you've put lots into the pool you'll have lots of eido shards to put back into anything you want

[gusty breach]

pog

[uneven ocean]

I got the 3 right, first try, pure RNG

[torpid lantern]

what do we even do with the shards?

I feel silly asking but other than waybounds, I've forgotten

[gusty breach]

you can turn shards into focus

[thick jolt]

Besides waybounds think its just focus conversion

[torpid lantern]

huh

Guess I'm not so clueless after all! I just lack.. focus

[thick jolt]

[torpid lantern]

[gusty breach]

oh god i love

[subtle crown]

Focus and Cetus dude rank up.

[gusty breach]

tru, you do use shards to rank up with quills

[subtle crown]

That one.

The creepy dude.

[torpid lantern]

huh?

[swift pond]

Don't you use cores to rank up with the Quills

[gusty breach]

sentient cores are for standing, eidolon shards are rank up requirements

[swift pond]

Gotcha, been a while since I hit max.

[gusty breach]

...?

this isnt warframe?

[subtle crown]

I’m an idiot, sorry i_i

[gusty breach]

lmao its fine

[subtle crown]

The joys of wildly different discords.

[trim tree]

To unlock waybounds for other schools do you have to unlock the school first?

And get lenses for it?

[gusty breach]

yea, pretty much. you need a lens to start getting the focus in that school, and once you get enough, you can unlock it, then you just gotta keep getting focus for it

[trim tree]

Ah so eso still the best place to farm focus?

[supple dagger]

mainly depends on how much affinity u get with maxed weapons (in my experience that would convert half of that affinity into focus)

the next victim of getting a Vazarin Lens

[gusty breach]

tell me how it goes. if it works really well, i might get a few from simaris, plug a couple lenses in, and have that be my primary focus farming weapon

[zenith jacinth]

Why vazarin

[supple dagger]

well.... why not

[zenith jacinth]

Why not zenurik

[supple dagger]

dont got the lens....

[zenith jacinth]

Become a meta follower

[zenith jacinth]

I have one... on a frame I never use

[supple dagger]

i got a vazarin lens on a sevagoth (who i use like once in a blue moon)

[zenith jacinth]

Well, until recently. Excal dex skin is good enough to make me use the brittle umbra again

[supple dagger]

my umbra isnt brittle

[zenith jacinth]

Though lavos is still superior in survivability

[supple dagger]

my strongest in survivability is my nidus prime

[zenith jacinth]

And energy economy

[supple dagger]

wait a minute i had a zenurik lens all this time i got 4 i can make a greater lens

[zenith jacinth]

Can't run out of energy if you never use any

[zenith jacinth]

Wow

I'm not even determined enough to get 4 of the lens I want

[supple dagger]

i just need a kavat segment now
i do have the blueprint i just need the alloy plates
then nataruk will do what it does best idk why but my accuracy increases when i use it

[subtle crown]

So, on perfect and charged shots the Nataruk shoots tree trunks.

Testing is still ongoing but so far we have narrowed down the hitbox to "hanzo"

[ionic sleet]

Thanks, I lol'd

[subtle crown]

ikr

As much as I hate the spoiler chat being deleted with like 17 copypastas that answer a bunch of questions, it also deleted a ton of detritus.

@wicked iron You already barely tolerate me. Please direct me to the place where I can suggest copypasta be saved but most requests be ignored.

[supple dagger]

it shoots tree sap tree sap bow

[wicked iron]

For suggestions about the Discord, #modmail is the way to go.

[subtle crown]

I can only assume you have never once used the weapon.

[cyan crest]

Sap?

[karmic belfry]

I mean if you shoot it and let it not collide the arrow barely looks like gaseous tree sap…?

But thats a stretch

[subtle crown]

Yup, literally never used the weapon.

[zenith jacinth]

It wasn't related to how it looks, but to the hitbox of it

[supple dagger]

nataruk? i have used it its my main primary weapon

[subtle crown]

Cool, so you know how the weapon has no AoE and instead shoots tree trunks on perfect/charged shots.

[supple dagger]

looks like tree sap to me but i did mod mine to do AoE

[subtle crown]

How?

[supple dagger]

im a little bit blind

[zenith jacinth]

There is a boom mod for bows

[supple dagger]

i just used a few mods not a lot besides arrows do pierce thru original target meaning if all enemies are in a straight line then boom the whole line takes damage same to the original target (my experience with bows)

[supple dagger]

yes

[past kiln]

that’s not AoE

[supple dagger]

not that

i use thunderbolt

its a mod for bows when maxed it has 30% chance to explode

[torpid lantern]

The bows can be bombs??? Chekyah! Where's this been my whole life?

[subtle crown]

From memory 5 years ago.

Slightly before Saryn was a "concealed explosives + spores" nuke.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Thunderbolt

Update 7.10. Couple weeks after leaving closed beta at 7.0.

[spark herald]

It's not very good.,

[subtle crown]

Not very good currently.

There was like a 2.5 week period where it was OP.

[torpid lantern]

Oh

[subtle crown]

Mostly due to wonky math.

[torpid lantern]

And there goes my dreams of chaos 😅

[subtle crown]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Concealed_Explosives?so=search

80% Live your dreams of chaos.

[zenith jacinth]

Yeet

[subtle crown]

If an operator/drifter can solo steel path (until the update where the build is taken out back and shot in the face) then "meh" weapons can do the same.

[torpid lantern]

What!?

What!!!?

[subtle crown]

Do you not know about the solo steel path operator/drifter build?

[zenith jacinth]

Use ze yeet veapons

[torpid lantern]

No..?

[zenith jacinth]

||(I'm european, I can make this joke)||

[subtle crown]

It relies on a bug to deal damage that is being deleted from the game soon.

[torpid lantern]

EHHHH!!!!?

Why do I always learn about cool things just before they're removed

[subtle crown]

So X4X is bugged. If you use void blast at least once in a mission then every time you you use X4X and on every bounce it's like you void blast.

[zenith jacinth]

There is a remotely detonateable yeet weapon too...

[subtle crown]

X4X is basically a literal glaive. Melee strikes which is the same code as a void blast.

[zenith jacinth]

Oh

[subtle crown]

Bull. I mentioned it multiple times in the old spoilers chat.

[zenith jacinth]

Void blast is dying. Right. Firgot.

[subtle crown]

Yeah.

[zenith jacinth]

And I spent so many madurai points upgrading it

[subtle crown]

Eidolon people are complaining about a potential void dash nerf while solo steel path players are being directly told "haha, no"

[jade helm]

Is it possible to get this mod?

[subtle crown]

Click the link...

The wiki page tells you drop sources for everything thanks to a minor getting sued and drop tables being made public.

[past kiln]

I have a bunch of them

[torpid lantern]

But you know I wasnt in there that much

[subtle crown]

Either way, build an X4X amp. Honestly X47 amp.

Use it outside of eidolon hunting.

[cyan crest]

X?

[torpid lantern]

Yes sir!

[subtle crown]

Waiting for the game to load but heat will still strip 50% of armour which boosts amp damage against enemies.

[torpid lantern]

on my way to create chaos

[subtle crown]

My sweet summer child.

You have SO much to learn in the ways of chaos.

There is a reason 80% of operator/drifter power is locked behind massive amounts of fortuna standing.

[cyan crest]

Honestly that's mainly why I don't farm for operator stuff

[subtle crown]

2 years too late.

[cyan crest]

Those stupid toroids and fortuna standing

[subtle crown]

Yeah.

Half a million fortuna standing and you get the ability to solo operator steel path.

I'm only partially built so can only solo some grineer.

[torpid lantern]

I still havent got enough toroids for half of anything

[kindred briar]

I'm sure Potassium will be willing to spare a few dozen if you ask nicely

[cyan crest]

Focus is gonna be reworked anyway so maybe I can use operator without sacrificing my soul to the void in the future

[torpid lantern]

That would be epic

[subtle crown]

Haha. I find your optimism amusing.

Lets see how the 5th focus rework goes.

We have never once lost progress.

[craggy drum]

As long as I can still have Power Spike or something that works the same I’ll be happy.

Need that slow decay because I’m melee focused. I can’t see well and precision aiming is hard lol

[subtle crown]

Passives will likely be fine. It's the actives to be worried about.

[cyan crest]

I like how you often talk like an stereotypical power hungry villain

[subtle crown]

I hope not but we might lose Zenurik energy regen.

[subtle crown]

If you cannot enjoy life, why live it at all.

Find joy wherever you can and do not let it go.

[torpid lantern]

That escalated so fast

[subtle crown]

The tiniest spark can start an inferno. Don't ever let anyone tell you what to find joy in.

[craggy drum]

Excuse you I did not expect an existential crisis today

/jk

[subtle crown]

Eh, it's what I do.

[cyan crest]

Hehe, the villain started his monologue

[subtle crown]

Joy is absent from my life so if I can bring it to others, even for a fleeting moment, I win.

[kindred briar]

didn't think we'd see kholdstare lore today

[subtle crown]

Welcome Mr. No Punctuation.

[craggy drum]

kholdstare90 villain arc circa 2022

[torpid lantern]

The spoiler chat is doomed

[subtle crown]

Find joy. Even if from discord *posts where I can't say the actual word because it will be insta deleted and there is a whole thing.

Y'all expecting a villan arc like it didn't happen long ago.

[kindred briar]

I thought this was the flashback

[torpid lantern]

Speaking of villian arc, AoZ Angels....

[subtle crown]

so many screenshots deleted.

[kindred briar]

I hope they're biblically accurate angles

[torpid lantern]

I'm scared to find out if they're the parents

[cyan crest]

We will have more info tonight I guess

[torpid lantern]

I wonder if the stream with tell us

[subtle crown]

If the MODS didn't delete almost 100 screenshots of them without warning.

[cyan crest]

Technically speaking, humanoid angels are also biblically accurate, they're just another type of angel

[subtle crown]

All I have is me and ITA talking about the colossal structures.

[torpid lantern]

That's so interesting! For me the stream is in the morning. Sometimes earlier than I even wanna be awake

[craggy drum]

I still have some

[lime salmon]

i am gonna say (even though I'm late to the conversation)
I will miss void blast, it's a fun ability

[subtle crown]

Not one of my 70 or so.

[torpid lantern]

The way this is leaning... it definitely looks like the parents might be the angels

[kindred briar]

you didn't save them to your hard-drive?

[craggy drum]

You did take a lot didnt you lol

[subtle crown]

And I really don't want to spend another 6 hours in the quest.

[kindred briar]

stream <t:1649440800:R>

[torpid lantern]

I remember seeing them

They were very helpful

[zenith jacinth]

Thank you

How do those work tho

[cyan crest]

Given the focus the trailers have on the weird statues, those are the angels
Although... Those could technically be the parents I guess

[subtle crown]

They were until they were deleted without notification.

[torpid lantern]

I know. I mean I think those void creations came from altering the parents

[cyan crest]

Could be

[kindred briar]

<t:1649440800:R>

[torpid lantern]

Huh?

[kindred briar]

Discord has built-in Unix timestamp functionality

[torpid lantern]

<t:1649440800:R>

[subtle crown]

Try clicking it.

[torpid lantern]

Whaaaaa

[zenith jacinth]

Nice

[kindred briar]

it changes the time to be accurate to the person's timezone

[subtle crown]

Oh good lord.

[torpid lantern]

Why is it a bunch of random numbers

[kindred briar]

its a counter counting from <t:0000000000:F> or <t:0000000000:F>

[zenith jacinth]

<t:1649440800:R>

Nice

[torpid lantern]

Oh hey, that's the date that shows up every time my call derps

[kindred briar]

the website that lets you convert times to stamps is blocked by the server though [https: //www.unixtimestamp.com/]

[zenith jacinth]

Probably the earliest date existing in digital stuff I think

[torpid lantern]

That's okay! Now I can just Google it. Thank you!!!

[subtle crown]

Can I PM you?

[torpid lantern]

Sure

[zenith jacinth]

Also, what's khold's alignment based on the villain arc? Chaotic evil?

[cyan crest]

Lawful evil

[subtle crown]

Neutral evil.

[cyan crest]

Is there no way to restore the og spoiler channel?

[subtle crown]

No.

[torpid lantern]

Unfortunately not..

[craggy drum]

Half tempted to use Judicial Coils on Drifter just cos it’s bugged.

Looks like it’s using Operators coils too as putting it on Operator doesn’t show anything lol

Drifter stole it

[torpid lantern]

I've seen the bug around but I'm not sure if people have reported it

[subtle crown]

Imagine people reporting bugs on the forums.

[torpid lantern]

I'm still waiting for the operator stance bug to get fix so I can use stances in captura and not look like I'm gonna tackle every NPC I talk to

[subtle crown]

Couldn't be me constantly directing people there so they get noticed by the devs in a neat and organised manner.

[subtle crown]

If only they had muscles. Feature, not a bug.

[torpid lantern]

I tend to link similar bugs together on the forums in comments

So the people who report them will talk to each other

[craggy drum]

Your Tenno always choosing violence lol

[subtle crown]

I just don't care anymore so I'm all "report it on the forums so it might get fixed" and then direct the bootleg fix if it exists.

[torpid lantern]

Nooooo!!!

[subtle crown]

Always pick violence.

[torpid lantern]

Chaos has gone too far

[craggy drum]

The only solution to problems in the Sol System

[torpid lantern]

I didn't choose the chaos, it chose me

[subtle crown]

Violence is not chaos.

Violence might be as simple as choosing the skirt with more frills because you like it,.

[supple dagger]

eh i wont always i will only crave violence when its monday or something i like gets destroyed

[torpid lantern]

Oddly specific

[subtle crown]

Frills aren't my thing.

[supple dagger]

i have not touched this thing since i got it and that was 2 months ago

[subtle crown]

While I say that wearing a pair of pants where each pant leg is a full circle skirt.

[subtle crown]

And?

[torpid lantern]

All I remember is wearing it on my back as the Operator and being super depressed after the quest when I lost my stick

[subtle crown]

Oh wow, you don't want 3k exp things.

[craggy drum]

Stealing our stick is a travesty and we should riot

[subtle crown]

What's your point?

[torpid lantern]

My stick is better than bacon 🎵

[cyan crest]

Give stick back

[torpid lantern]

Hey

[cyan crest]

give stick back
it's so much better as a cosmetic than as a weapon

[torpid lantern]

It was

[craggy drum]

Yes

Like a pointy syandana for Operator

[torpid lantern]

It's kinda funny looking though

I cant decide which half of it is more of the weapon. The pointy end or the end with a head sized globe on the bottom

[subtle crown]

Not the orbiting orbs?

[craggy drum]

One side for stabbin’, one side for bonking

[subtle crown]

that disappear and reappear with the passive.

[torpid lantern]

[scarlet basalt]

What was the best roast in the game ?
for me it was something like :
"She chose death over you" (Natah talking to ballas and referencing Margulis's death so she can protect the tenno)

[torpid lantern]

Parvos: ranting about laziness for 5 minutes
"Is that you my son?"
Nef: on the verge of tears "No it must have been a different son."

[supple dagger]

would have been cool if that had been in public

[cyan crest]

It kinda was
The whole Solaris command group was listening, I'm sure have that whole speech framed on a wall or something

[ivory surge]

the whole transcripts of that, printed and framed on the most visible place in Fortuna lol

[flat shadow]

Hacking the display feeds to play it on a loop

[kindred briar]

would a werewolf warframe be a wereframe? or a wolframe?

[craggy solstice]

Wereframe sounds better.

[kindred briar]

glad that's all squared away

[scarlet basalt]

WAIT what ??? for real 💀
So that also mean that they are mocking nef anyo despite him having so much power on them

[cyan crest]

It's just a funny possibility not something that actually happens

[fleet veldt]

Zariman 'statues' generated by the Void stuff are not just statues.

[sharp spoke]

Mhmmmmm

We get to kill our parents all over again!

Just what I was hoping for 🙂

[scarlet basalt]

Ok so we're going to fight venom ?

[sharp spoke]

If Venom were a physical manifestation of void corruption, yes

[scarlet basalt]

btw when lotus was speaking about reclaiming "her" was she talking about the zariman or the angels ?

[sharp spoke]

Probably the Zariman. Ships are commonly referred to as "her" or "she".

[spark herald]

The ship

[vagrant sorrel]

The Zariman, the ship

[sharp spoke]

Yes

[scarlet basalt]

ohh i thought that in english you still use "It" for non gendered thing

[sharp spoke]

Not if it's specifically a ship, space or sea

[fleet veldt]

It varies a lot. Generally ships, vehicles, and even tools/weapons can be referred to by gender terming depending on the circumstances.

[sharp spoke]

Pretty hype for every aspect of this update

[zenith jacinth]

Not real

[zenith jacinth]

I'm only excited for a normal-sized scythe

[zenith jacinth]

Countries

[scarlet basalt]

hoping that we will have parvos granum interaction and kuva's sister interaction with the quest
hoping that there is some sort of codex from the old entrati that were teaching here.
And also whatever that cephalon was doing

[olive rapids]

It's a heavy scythe

[sharp spoke]

Lel.
The animations for that giant scythe are REALLY smooth, while still feeling adequately heavy

[zenith jacinth]

...which is normal scythe size

[olive rapids]

Also I'm hoping DE in the future may make secret content that isnt discussed in the streams, that the community must find themselves

[sharp spoke]

They did say players would be rewarded for exploration, so im gonna say probably

[fleet veldt]

I hope DE realises the Kazsas gets a small rework to be the first ground-usable Archmelee because heavy scythes and it should be a pair.

[scarlet basalt]

I think that would be lore piece
They also didn't show at all the "Oro" mission which could be a boss fight

[olive rapids]

Which the kaszas is too. Speaking of, why does the plague scythe head turn into a staff when you use a stick for the handle?

[zenith jacinth]

Idk

[olive rapids]

I've been begging for it for months now

[fleet veldt]

Plague 'scythe' head doesn't seem scythe-shaped enough?

[olive rapids]

Plus it's actually the same height as a frame

If I'm going by referencing the archwing

[fleet veldt]

Also: a lot of melee stances need to be 'unbound' from their weapon categories.

[olive rapids]

I think melee 4.0 can be a stance expansion

[fleet veldt]

3.0 isn't finished yet. No 'Devil Trigger' rage mode.

[sharp spoke]

All i want is to use Knux as a ground melee

[olive rapids]

Heavy blades can be expanded into a new duo

Greatswords and battle axes

[zenith jacinth]

Punch

[fleet veldt]

Heavy Blades, Hammers, 2h-Katanas, maybe scythe stances, could all interact. Heck, staff/polearm ones could also work in some cases.

[sharp spoke]

Big robo punch

[olive rapids]

Veritux would be a fantastic greatsword

Its basically the buster sword

[fleet veldt]

With a Gravimag prerequisite, of course.

[olive rapids]

Yes

[grand valley]

unairu now can strip armor

[zenith jacinth]

That's... already what the heavy blade category is

[sharp spoke]

^

[fleet veldt]

Unless we want a blade that's 3 frames tall and can only be used by Necramechs.

[olive rapids]

Cleaving whirlwind looks weird on the scindo okay?

[fleet veldt]

Scindo Prime needs to be bigger. In fact walk animations with hammer-animation weapons are a bit broken still. Left hand doesn't stay on-grip.

[heavy obsidian]

Zenurik is going to be even better in Angels Of Zariman even though i was thinking about switching to Unairu. Madurai in Eidolon Hunting though

[olive rapids]

I think that battle axes could be a sort of classification in between hammers and heavy blades

[zenith jacinth]

Battle axes aren't blunt

[olive rapids]

I said between

As in the feel of them

[zenith jacinth]

Not that either

[quick delta]

Solo vs dead

[olive rapids]

A battle axe shouldnt feel the same as a greatsword

[quick delta]

Solo uw now ig

[heavy obsidian]

^

[zenith jacinth]

Reason?

[fleet veldt]

Depends on how people adapt Madurai as it will be. They may discover a new solution. They should try multiple and not stick to one like they have done; it's why things are changing like this.

[supple dagger]

What "Oro" mission? Oro is only ever talked about in Concalve

[torpid lantern]

I missed the third evolving weapon they're doing. I can only find pictues of two of them in #de-livestreams

[olive rapids]

For one thing, look at how they are held. Greatswords have a sort of grip at the bottom for wielding, while a battle axe has a large handle that is typically held halfway up.

[fleet veldt]

Wise Razor's anim set can be adapted to the 'Alak Hul Darkblade' style axe thing.

[zenith jacinth]

That's the node name

[supple dagger]

The weapons were a pistol, tonfa, and semi-auto rifle

[olive rapids]

Also, some of the hammer combos would be more fitting for something like the scindo imo

[cyan crest]

that's how the node is called...

[scarlet basalt]

idk how to speak english
I'm french 😭

[olive rapids]

I'm basing this idea around a light touch of space marine combat from warhammer

How its between a moderately heavy sword and a giant hammer

[zenith jacinth]

And I'm german, yet I'm better at english than german

Not entirely on purpose

[fleet veldt]

Still. Scindo (Prime) needs to be bigger in size.

As for 'Greataxe' style of fighting it'd probably a lot of momentum-related moves (like how you feel using Gram Prime with Cleaving Whirlwind as its stance or the Ghoulsaw in some extents).

[scarlet basalt]

well,now we will wait to know what is that "oro works" thing is that they didn't want to show

[zenith jacinth]

A node

[sharp spoke]

"Void Armageddon" is the mission type

[olive rapids]

As well it should have a much higher focus on inflicting slash

[torpid lantern]

That's an odd name...

It makes me nervous

[scarlet basalt]

Oh it's the void Armageddon

[olive rapids]

And the finsher would be a classic executioners decapitation

[supple dagger]

A particular name, yes, but just a regular mission

[olive rapids]

That or the downward finisher

[quick delta]

🏃‍♂️ me omw to test bugs and exploits the stuff with focus rework

[torpid lantern]

It's oddly specific though. And works makes think of things like forges. Idk... I will wait and see

[olive rapids]

I even have a working title for this battle axe stance

Executioners Gavel

[scarlet basalt]

Not gonna lie,those Tonfas just look like they ripped apart some of the weird things inside the zariman

[olive rapids]

The void twists and distorts.

[zenith jacinth]

Distant, mountain-moving Regornian laughter

[olive rapids]

I chose the name based on the idea of axes being used to punish vagabonds through beheading

And gavel to represent the final say in a sentence of death

[fleet veldt]

I would like to imagine one of the 'great'-style weapons would be a massive, gothic greataxe that would be signature to a taller-than-normal, equally gothic Warframe that has this 'templar at the end of days' feeling.

Said axe would welcome a variety of stances (polearms, heavy blades, and 2h-katana).

[olive rapids]

Onorix

That too would work well for it

[zenith jacinth]

"You must be feeling guilty. Need to atone? I'll oblige. Let my gavel ring justice off your thin tin skull."
-Tyl Regor

[olive rapids]

Perfect

That would make for the perfect mod description

As for machetes, they too need a slight retune

I mean, look at the kreska.

[zenith jacinth]

Just yeet those

[olive rapids]

That thing is a climbing axe

[zenith jacinth]

Nobody uses them anyways

[fleet veldt]

Axe is designed a bit odd to grip, won't work for a Warframe, planetside, but a Necramech? Necramech can heft it and use it just fine while borrowing from Tonfa stances to an extent I'd imagine.

[olive rapids]

Hm...a zariman based mech that would act as a guardian to the vessel

[fleet veldt]

That'd be nice. Something supportive, constructive, with an ult that makes it more offensive-state (ult swaps powers for Void-enhanced attack functions rather than defence/support).

[olive rapids]

Perhaps it would not be controlled by tenno, but by onboarding cephalons

I'm thinking more defense and support role

Given how we have 2 damage frames

I'm thinking 2 powers would be mech based, 2 would be void based

[zenith jacinth]

Which makes sense, they were made for war

[fleet veldt]

We've got a deployable artillery, a charging swordbearer.
We're missing a healer/mage-

No wait this is an opportunity for one.

First three powers support (i.e: cast 1 to generate aura to convert outgoing damage to heals, cast 2 to turn the aura into a barrier field with segmented health, cast 3 to, say, lev+impact+puncture proc enemies in the same area, with 4 converting it to offensive.)

[olive rapids]

One could be some form of a healing blockade that can generate energy upon the barricade taking damage

With a 10 meter affinity radius for that energy generation

That would be void based

[scarlet basalt]

A Trinity necramech would be so good

[olive rapids]

I'm thinking something like a combat healer

Able to act as medic and muscle

[heavy obsidian]

That would be perfect

[fleet veldt]

Something like Trinity+Equinox.

AKA Oberon but with an ult that turns him into a high-damage ability-spammer.

[zenith jacinth]

Just don't make it elden ring style

||Combat medics exist there and are described to basically just be mercy killers||

[olive rapids]

No

That's not what I mean.

The void is the healing part of combat healer

It's what would create this barrier

[zenith jacinth]

It was a joke

Related to game lore

[olive rapids]

Essentially, upon its activation, a pretty sizable blockade with 5000 health default would be formed through a void tear, and as its health chips down, health and ammo is transferred into the frames and mechs within a 10/15 meter affinity radius with a 25% efficiency

The actual design of this mech would be based on the bruntspar platform, as opposed to the entrati platform we are all accustomed to

[zenith jacinth]

All except those with money and/or plat

[olive rapids]

Yea.

There would be a lore reason for this

With these mechs being a special order for the zariman ship to function as construction platforms for assisting repairs and acting as security on the zariman

As such, given the admittedly fragile nature of contemporary entrati necramechs, these would be built with a focus on nitain infused shield generators and heavy argon plating to make them more resilient to damage taken during their operations aboard the vessel

[zenith jacinth]

Ar- argon plating

What

[olive rapids]

Argon crystals

[zenith jacinth]

How do you make plating out of quickly decaying solidified gas

[kindred briar]

Argon is a gas.

[celest ocean]

That's the name of the archwing armor mod I think

[olive rapids]

To explain what this argon plating is, think of it like applying a formula to reinforce an existing piece of metal

[zenith jacinth]

That still doesn't make sense

[kindred briar]

so you want to give a titanium plate an argon paintjob?

[vagrant sorrel]

The Orokin could easily have a way of maintaining the solidified state and working with it or adding at as a component to another material during production.
They've accomplished far less feasible things

[olive rapids]

^

[kindred briar]

fair enough

[olive rapids]

After all, they do have argon pegmatite in their void vessels

[kindred briar]

just slap a few post-its reading "void magic, don't question it" and you're good

[zenith jacinth]

Which are in the void. Which is presumably why it's even solidified.

[olive rapids]

So why can they sometimes be found on earth?

[kindred briar]

that's a gameplay feature

[olive rapids]

Could be a bug for all I know

[zenith jacinth]

Hwat

[kindred briar]

Argon pegamites can occasionally be found on Earth tilesets

[zenith jacinth]

Hm

[olive rapids]

Pretty interesting.

[kindred briar]

99% sure it's a bug and shouldn't be counted

[fleet veldt]

Hunch: third mech may be a kitbash of both previous types 'sown' together with Void material, making the whole resemble a mixup of Warframes at silhouette level.

Would have a hybridized version of abilities:
Impailer mine:
-Charge to corrupt with Void energy, which will heal allies and damage enemies less after it explodes after being thrown.
-Throw as is to lock enemies in a slew of rapidly growing Void/nanotech spikes.
Voidwall:
-Tear a gap between here and there that, if you stand near it, your whatever is overshielded by its health pool, which it has none because it is the Void; any damage goes in? Comes out as ammo/health/energy, but drains the mech. Drain increases based on time active and damage accrued, but does not drain energy - it drains the mech's stamina bar.
-Can pick it up as a shield, but your stamina bar becomes unusable and will drain if damaged further.
Discordant flow:
-Drags enemies together, every impact causes an explosion of Void energy plus absolutely random procs.
Yes and No:
-Pulls out of Void portals a pair of Railjack turret guns that have sat in the Void for seemingly ever. One does heat, one does cold. As they are used, their effects become wild and nonsensical, as well as rate of fire, damage, and effects that also spread to the Necramech.

As for answers regarding why Argons can be found in Quest missions or special alerts or Void Sabotage missions? Void exposure and a rip between the two spaces. Or gameplay. Or both, since Void has broken a few walls.

[zenith jacinth]

The bees have spoken

[kindred briar]

buzz buzz

[olive rapids]

NICE

Besides, we use argon Crystals in our foundry to build weapons

Some of which arent even fully orokin. They're tenno replications

[fleet veldt]

The Orokin managed to make computers out of flesh.

[zenith jacinth]

And we do not know how or why or for what

[olive rapids]

Well for some of them I can see it being applied to reinforce or coat parts of the weapon. Or act as a fuel source

[fleet veldt]

Void knows. Maybe Ordis knows, but we don't usually think of asking.

Tenno probably learned about it on Z10-0.

[olive rapids]

So, we could chock up this argon plating being a combination of a titanium alloy, argon Crystal's and orokin cells to strengthen its integrity and reduce damage from workplace hazards

I.E, heat, electrical, punctures and corrosion

[fleet veldt]

Or the Orokin used incomprehensible Void-related sciences to persuade Argon to crystallize, then used some sort of exotic particle converter to transmute it into actual metal.

[olive rapids]

That definitely makes sense.

[fleet veldt]

Compared to today's knowledge we've [what?] idea as to how they the in their present-tense(s).

[olive rapids]

As for how they would be piloted, simple!

Cephalons

[fleet veldt]

Yes. Also the teacher Cephalon could've used one to help quarantine the gone-insane adults.

[olive rapids]

The void corrupts.

It would make sense that any on board cephalons would be tainted fully by the void jump.

And as such, these mechs would be left completely nonfunctional.

As for their main weapon/tool, I can see it being a sort of plasma cutter/welder

[scarlet basalt]

Cephalon Cy mention that Void or MITW could touch them...
I don't want to know what the void was going to do to the cephalon on the zariman lol

[olive rapids]

In terms of appearance, think a take on the bruntspar platform, with a more brutalist design. Obviously there would still be some hoses to power the mech, which would be located on the arms and back. But, post void jump, the void would twist this machine. Causing shadowy protrusions to erupt from the head, forming a sort of visor that masks the pod. Tendrils would be replacing the bulky legs, and it would be much more nimble than it's original construction, as well as the old entrati designs.

[vagrant sorrel]

Given what happens to everyone or everything else that has extended interactions with the void...probably nothing we want to imagine

[olive rapids]

Agreed.

Strange though that moas become closer to the corpus anti moa

I do want their weapon though

[zenith jacinth]

Or you could just use a less complicated to explain material

Like fersteel alloy or auroxium

Hek, fersteel alloy has the same color as bruntspar

[olive rapids]

I found this

[kindred briar]

w h a t

[olive rapids]

A cursed moa

[wicked iron]

Please keep this channel relevant to what's in the game and is a story spoiler. 🙂

[olive rapids]

alright

[jagged sable]

I just thought of a really cool theory about the NPC's of the Zariman.

What if the named Tenno in the Zariman classroom scene of TNW end up being some of the NPC's on the Chrystalith Hub? They did it for the Entrati, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the NPC's on AoZ were foreshadowed from the names of the Zariman children in the classroom.

[cyan crest]

as long as there are tenno npcs

[supple dagger]

so far they mentioned there will be more npcs in that place, who knows if tenno or not

[jagged sable]

At the very least, I'm betting Drifter counterparters

[vagrant sorrel]

It was odd enough that all of them seemed to have unique names. Could just mean it was a flavour thing, but Tenno NPCs have been requested by some for a while now and on the Zariman it would make sense.

[simple python]

Gyre... thoughts, feelings, etc? I don't know what to make of her kit in full... crit seems to be a focus with her though and of course the whole rushdown-type ability on her... 3 I think? Could be neat for solo

In terms of aesthetics... definitely that one Nier Automata boss.

[spark herald]

If she doesn't come with level scaling, the numbers on the damage abilities seem underwhelming like they usually do. Otherwise she has a good size and strength vacuum and a crit buff, coincidentally just like Nidus.

[supple dagger]

kinda a crit oriented electric nidus

[torpid lantern]

I will take any and all Tenno npcs. They're the only ones that make sense on the Zariman. Maybe more Drifters?

[grim void]

Hmm

[vagrant sorrel]

Drifter-Versions of the Tenno we saw during New War would be really neat.

[vagrant sorrel]

Speaking of the Zariman though - I'm excited about (What I presume to be one of )the Void Angels near the end of the trailer

[craggy drum]

Yes

It’s a void abomination and I simultaneously love it and want to shoot it

[vagrant sorrel]

I think it's interesting that some of them appeared like they were entering from outside the ship, given their positioning in some places during New War's Zariman section.
I like the idea that the Tenno's parents turned into these...things or that they're some extant invader of untime horror, but I think it could also be interesting (And would feed into the void being a 'polytemporal nexus' as it is presented in New War's Flashbacks) if these Angels are what all the variations of us that die on the Zariman turned into. Apart from Kid-Tenno and Drifter-Tenno during the handshake all the others 'fall away' and seem to be perishing in one way or another that doesn't look too pleasant.

Granted, this is big grineer-clonerot-brain level of theorising by me.

[torpid lantern]

I still cant understand the various dying realities. I wish I knew what they meant exactly

[edgy heart]

Will there be a way to change the Lotus name

Like

After TNI

[supple dagger]

Currently no, with no word of anything changing

[edgy heart]

F

[supple dagger]

They said it's be permanent, and they're sticking to it

[edgy heart]

I kinda regret it

I picked Margulies

[fleet veldt]

Currently there is no way to change her name. I personally didn't like how the change was tied to the 'morality system' as I prioritise middle-tree responses for all situations with at least two exceptions.

Hence she remains named Lotus for me, but I bought her Natah-shape because she doesn't have to pretend that much. Besides, she'd be able to hold Drifter better with six arms.

[edgy heart]

👁️

[supple dagger]

I wouldn't call it pretending when it's the form she's most comfortable in in default

[edgy heart]

I picked Margulies because peace and the alignment thing, and because the og suit

[fleet veldt]

Even so, she needs a break from mimicry.

Six arms:
-Her original (Sentient) quad set (the two pincer set on tube-like limbs, two large crab-like cannon arms)
-Her Mimic-form's hands

In my book, those who pick Margulis are under the illusion of Narmer Veils to some extent.

Why? Narmer achieved peace, but it was a lie. Just like Natah achieving a perfected Margulis mimicry rather than being free to be herself.

[edgy heart]

I remember seeing someone say that denying the other forms is like denying trans rights because apparently they're trans special

[supple dagger]

That's one of the stupidest reaches I've heard in a while

[past kiln]

lol what

[cosmic owl]

BTW has it been revealed about why and how the parents went feral and the kids didn't? ( sorry if It has iv forgot )

[supple dagger]

Parents went crazy from Void Exposure, standard fair. No reason why the kids were fine

[torpid lantern]

I speculate that the MITW intentionally made just the parents crazy to scare the kids into accepting his deal. Why? I haven't gotta clue but he really wants something

[edgy heart]

It's like that meme with the ice King

The one where he left when the pink chick turned 13

[frail nymph]

Do I smell... Lore?

[swift pond]

Oro canon?

Or just a phrase for "Orokin Workshop"?
Either way, super stoked to see the Zariman and it's juicy lore nuggets.

[bronze anchor]

there's gonna be a semi boss fight? that ending looks like there was a metallic monster

[cyan crest]

It's just the node name, but anything that tries to canonize oro other than the abandoned pvp thing is good, because at least it adds something to lore

[vagrant sorrel]

One of the nodes was also named "Tuvul Commons" after one of the Executors from the Simaris lorebits waaaay back when.

It's most likely more flavour than anything, but I like that they're not forgetting about seemingly minor details like this.

[frail nymph]

Exactly. Like Oro is still a thing at the back of their mind, at least, rather than a full retcon confirmation.

[vagrant sorrel]

It's hard to make out in detail but it is most likely one of those figure-like Voidformations all over the Zariman...just moving and as a boss enemy.

The previous devstream before this one showed a screenshot of the weapon evolution-system and one of the challenges required you to participate in taking down a "Void Angel"
Most likely that is what we were looking at there

[vagrant sorrel]

That seems to be the case. New War makes it pretty apparent that he specifically really wanted us to make the deal with him.

It's still a bit hard to make sense of how Void and realspace interact but the common thread seems to be: MITW wants out... Or in more or less.
He pretty much states so through Rell during Chains of Harrow and tries to follow Albrecht through his gateway. Why though is still more or less up to pure speculation.

I think it's interesting though that since first contact with Albrecht, Wally's methods have become... A lot more subtle. The Zariman incident was elaborate and complicated with no real choices or options left for us, apart from taking the deal or no. And apart from the Drifter-Variation, every version that didn't take the deal seemingly ended one way or another.

With Albrecht it was a direct confrontation in a vague approximation of realspace. MITW wasn't even hiding there. Albrecht didn't just see himself, he saw "The lidless eye" if we go by the visuals of his vitruvian entries - And he promptly went blind because of it.

[jagged sable]

I think it'd make sense for these void angels to be the parents of he Zariman. that Void metal looks infectious and is spreading throughout the ship. I want to say it's like the Infestation in the terms that it's a metal virus that could spread. It could 'infect' areas of the ship, the idea of it infecting people wouldn't be surprising.

Huh Maybe that would explain why the masked dude we all associate Duviri with lost his arm, they had to amputate it after he got infected through his arm.

[vagrant sorrel]

I personally don't feel like what's going on there is all too similar to the infestation (Particularly because the Infestation is actively terrified of the Void). When it comes to the void, particular the MITW and the horrors associated with him, DE seems to be leaning more in the direction of paracausal cosmic horror (Evidenced by Chains of Harrow and the New War-Ending). Horrible impossible energies that twist reality into morbid reflections of themselves, that sorta thing.
I dunno Technovirus that infects everything is something we already have in the setting and it doesn't really mesh with the themes surrounding the Void and the Zariman all that well in my opinion.

[rancid canyon]

I think that Wallman wants everything to be devoured by the void. That's why he used Children, easy to manipulate and push into a deal. Tenno destroyed both Sentients and Orokin - leaving practically no enemies capable of fighting back.
What happened to Zariman Ten-Zero shows that Wallman is something similar to A lovecraftian entity - so I think that He wants to corrupt the whole System and looks for an Opportunity

I freshly finished The New War, and I am yet to Do the Albrecht Story

[craggy drum]

So looks like the first Voidshell skins will be for Saryn (which we already knew) Rhino and Volt

[rancid canyon]

And will all be in one Supporter Pack. I wonder how much will it cost

[craggy drum]

They’ll most likely also be buyable from the in game market for plat too. Like all other support packs.

The only pack exclusive things are the Zariman Glyph and Sigil

[rancid canyon]

I am considering Buying my firsr S-pack. The only thing bothering me is the fact that I won't have the Joy of crafting Gyre Myself

[cyan crest]

That's a joy?

[craggy drum]

Might get the emergence pack, just for the glyph and sigil

[gusty breach]

my theory is that because 1) the man in the wall is an entity of the void, and 2) the void seems to defy, manipulate, or distort time and space, when we shook the man in the walls hand, he converged all possible timelines into two options: one where we took the deal, one where we didnt. it makes it much easier for him to direct and manipulate consequences in the way he wants, while mitigating the number of timelines/versions of the tenno he doesnt have control over

thats just my theory, i could be entirely wrong

[bronze anchor]

Unairu... to summon a wisp u have to armor strip the eidolon... and the wisp automatically flies to the nearest ally without needing vacuum/fetch, that's gonna mess with eidolon hunters

yup madurai is gonna be the new solo eidolon hunter focus, 1000% dmg and 100% crit dmg

[grand laurel]

So thrax are different than the angels in the angels of zariman right?

[supple dagger]

It's not like Wally would need to though, the Void drives people crazy naturally

[supple dagger]

They are, yes

[grand laurel]

Yeah I agree with that

I think it's wally that intentionally made the children immune to it rather than making the parents go crazy, then again this is speculation

Wait I don't get how the wally deal works, so we know that there are infinite amount of multiverse and when we shook their hand did they kill the other operators on the other universes and leave just two or did wally destroy the multiverse and just left two?

[zenith jacinth]

Wally seemingly only controls the void

My theory is that he somehow killed every version of the operator that was in the void so that only 2 options remain

Or maybe the choice itself kills the other versions

[grand laurel]

Oh so the other multiverses still exists but the tenno doesn't exist and therefore the Warframe project is cancelled and the orokin empire will still die because sentients?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

In most of the timelines/universes

[grand laurel]

But then how did the drifter wound up on our universe?

[real niche]

We don't know

[zenith jacinth]

Dpm?

[zenith jacinth]

(Do note that I specifcally said "my theory")

[gusty breach]

y'all basically repeated what i said here lmao

[zenith jacinth]

No, I did not

[simple python]

I do hope for proper level scaling or we'll have another massive issue like last time. But otherwise the fact she sounds like Nidus' who thing is right up my alley. I wonder which guns'll suit her when she rolls around

[thick jolt]

Im thinking of how much crit would she get with mcclouds eletric phantasma

[errant charm]

I suspect she was not even really modded possibly during the dev stream

[supple dagger]

i think they didn't show mods on warframe but weapons had really weird mod builds so perhaps

[thick jolt]

Gyre was moded on the devstream

Believe she had duration efficiency and strength

[rain prawn]

when the zariman update hits, will the focus points be wiped as well as the perks?

[real niche]

Refunded

Points used for skills will be straight focus, Pool Focus is turned into shards

[rain prawn]

that means i wont have to do the eido farm all over again, right?

[real niche]

Correct

[rain prawn]

awesome

[rain prawn]

does anybody know if the war within is going to have any slight changes since the operator is going to have some changes as well?

[robust wren]

They havent talked about it on devstream iirc

i assume it will

[rain prawn]

same

[zenith jacinth]

There's multiple parts there where you need to use void blast, and this is also the case for the sacrifice

[kind epoch]

There will likely also be some changes to new war itself, since you had to void dash to unmask ostrons

[subtle crown]

Since you can't get back into your warframe during the quest void blast might just stick around as a legacy aspect.

Like transcendence during the first part of second dream quest (if you're using operator. Drifter breaks it)

[opal rapids]

they've mentioned that's changing, most of the time, yeeting with the slingshot, iirc

[zenith jacinth]

But what about stunning umbra?

[subtle crown]

Yeah, I have not seen any mention whether void sling will get void dash damage.

[opal rapids]

there are some damage nodes on the list of skills iirc

[spark herald]

I expect this will fix amps inheriting void blast effects.

[subtle crown]

But colission is still checked so "hit by void sling" should still work for "hit by void dash"

The X4X losing void blast effect is basically the only one. RIP operator only steel path.

[opal rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650716436430939/962072631631290399/SPOILER_Dev_stream_161_collage.png

[subtle crown]

Madurai continues to be the default eidolon school.

[torpid lantern]

Whst Is this chart?

[wicked iron]

I think everything from the dev stream.

Or a lot of it, at least.

[past kiln]

woah scythe has great stats

[opal rapids]

yeah someone posted it as a summary of the imprtant bits and I just dumped it again since it was relevant, sorry

[spring yew]

Didn't know if this applies as spoiler or not so i will be safe and put it here. So came back into warframe after 4 years. Been playing for about a weak and now i plan on replaying all of the Story Missions. Did Natah then Second Dream. Now im trying to do The War Within but it is refusing to start.

Anyone know why it isnt Starting?

[wild wind]

That's weird, wonder why. Nothing in the recent updates should have broken it...

[subtle crown]

You have completed the Sedna Junction fight?

[spring yew]

I completed the entire Star Map im MR13 I already did the mission before. Played it on release. Im just coming back so im doing a refresher before i play the new story content... Well new for me anyways

[subtle crown]

Completing the star chart 4 years ago and completing the star chart today are 2 different things.

[spring yew]

I have Access to Steel Path

[subtle crown]

If you have already killed the specter inside the junction then everything should be ticked for you to start.

[spring yew]

Do i need to kill it again?

[subtle crown]

What is the error message you get when you can't start the war within?

[spring yew]

There isnt any

[subtle crown]

Check your inbox.

There might be an inbox message from Lotus.

[spring yew]

There isnt but im looking for the original one to see if that works

[subtle crown]

Click on Lua. The first mission has you go there.

See if any nodes have a symbol.

[spring yew]

None

Minus the Arbiration and other stuff

[spice bluff]

did you check your codex for the requirements?

[spring yew]

Again i already did the mission before im just trying to replay it. So it doesnt even show any requirement for me

[subtle crown]

Ok, can confirm that war within replay is broken.

[spring yew]

oh

[spice bluff]

well, that sucks

[spring yew]

Figured it out. So when you activate the quest you have to go back into the Codex and watch the Cinematic

So i guess make it known that its what you need to do then.

Thanks for the help though. I appreciate it.

[molten crystal]

I think Wally made Eternalism possible for us, because despite what the game says, about Eternalism being the valid theory of time, for all intents and purposes most people in Warframe universe are subject to Presentism, they have a past, they live in the present and they are moving towards a a certain future based upon their actions-consequences/karma, Eternalism only applies the Void where all realities and timelines are possible and exist in a parallel way, however the Void is the world that "Sees and Dreams" so although all things are possible there, are only 'potentially' possible, that is why Wally keeps extending his hand to people who come from the the Mundane world, like Albrecht and Operator, he needs someone through whom he can channel all these potential realities into existence into the real world, so according to me when the Operator shook hands with Wally all other potential realities and times collapse, now the operator has become the vessel of the Void, i.e. for them all realities and timelines, and all the different versions of themselves are accessible and possible, since they carry the Void, hence the other realities collapse and merge into our Operator capable of manifesting through them.

[bronze anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVWtR1wWAXk

what?

[cyan crest]

Lotus, space mom, our "mother" is on the ship
The ship is a mothership
It's a pun
Other people here seem to think it's a "yo mama so fat her ship eats ships" joke but I don't see it in the slightest

[cunning copper]

Lotus' mom so fat she tried to eat the whole damn sun

[quick delta]

[fierce ledge]

Mr operator just fooled ordis

Do u guys know what lotus face looks like

[molten crystal]

[stoic hollow]

Look at margulis

[fierce ledge]

How?

[past kiln]

play the new war

[fierce ledge]

Wait lotus is a flower 🪷

[fierce ledge]

What’s left for me is to confront umbra

[stoic hollow]

Yes it grows on water lilies I believe

[fierce ledge]

Which I’ll do tomorrow

Cause I got to get off. Don’t want my dad seeing me play

[subtle crown]

Honestly the whole plant is pretty important. The root is almost but not quite the same as carrot nutrition wise, the plant can grow in poor quality water and get a bunch of nutrients from it, it grows fairly quickly and harvesting the plants for food they self replenish fairly quickly.

Oh and it's starchy like potatoes so lotus starch is a thing like potato starch and corn starch.

Also, the "lotus flower" depends on who you ask. Lotus are part of a family of plants who had "flowers" before bees existed. They're beetle pollinated, like magnolias. Some purists argue that only flowers are pollinated by bees.

[fierce ledge]

That’s why they call her lotus, cause she important as well to the Tenno

And Margulis

And natah

[torpid lantern]

I personally think instead it's a reference to the greek mythology

I've shared this before but let me just stick it here again if ya don't mind 🙂

[fierce ledge]

So many names for a purple hologram

[torpid lantern]

In the Odyssey, the lotus plant played a role that goes well with Warframe
(Burrowing the wiki summary)

In Greek mythology, the lotus-eaters were a race of people living on an island dominated by the lotus tree... The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were a narcotic, causing the inhabitants to sleep in peaceful apathy. After they ate the lotus they would forget their home and loved ones, and only long to stay with their fellow lotus-eaters. Those who ate the plant never cared to report, nor return.

Margulis using Lotus-shaped transference pods, then inducing most Tenno to sleep, all fits this. The Lotus herself also made active efforts to keep the Tenno from remembering who they were as well as isolating them from the rest of the populace.
It's all symbolic of this, in my opinion.

[fierce ledge]

Nothing

[fierce ledge]

That does make a lot of sense tho now that I think about it

Wait so margulis is a part of the lotus

Like something that made the Tenno forget who they were?

No wonder when u start up the game for the first time she says “I can’t lose u again”

[torpid lantern]

No, Margulis and Lotus are two different people 🙂

[fierce ledge]

She probably tried erasing the Tenno mind once and succeeded for a little while than they went against her cause they remembered that. Than she erased them again and said “i can’t lose you again”

It all makes sense now

[fierce ledge]

Than who was ballas calling margulis

[torpid lantern]

Margulis' favorite flower was the Lotus. And the Lotus chose that name as a reference to the flower and possibly Margulis

[fierce ledge]

He was looking at lotus

[torpid lantern]

Lotus because he was confused and was trying to convince himself and the Lotus that she was Margulis

[fierce ledge]

And wasant the kind of the lotus against Tenno

[vital owl]

Lotus is a mimic of Margulus

[fierce ledge]

It’s weird how each quest connects with one another

Another game I used to play a few years ago the missions never made sense

[torpid lantern]

Not really. That's kinda how it works in lots of games

[vital owl]

Not all games are narative driven, but this one is

[torpid lantern]

Apex Legend is a good example of free-to-play game that has quests that build off of the previous ones

[fierce ledge]

If u play them in the right order cause sometimes after a junction u get 2 quests and if u do them right it kinda all fits. Like a puzzle

[torpid lantern]

Yep!

[fierce ledge]

Hidden messages and the other one that u get with it

Honestly one of the more scarier quests for me was the one with the rell thing

Dam thing was scary

[onyx quartz]

Chains of harrow?

[fierce ledge]

Yea

Finished it today

[torpid lantern]

They all connect and expand on the world, story and lore. It's up to the players to put the pieces together. That's what I do here

[fierce ledge]

U help players put the peices together

[torpid lantern]

Yep!

[fierce ledge]

I mean it kinda all just made sense to me but yea I see your point

One of the quests that don’t make sense at all to me is deadlock protocol

And waverider

[torpid lantern]

ooooh, why is that?

[fierce ledge]

I mean waverider cause like she’s sleeping. Not like a story wakes up someone from there sleep

It does the opposite

Story’s put people to sleep not wake them up

[vital owl]

Think of them like side stories in the same universe, kinda like the lavirian

[torpid lantern]

Oh! The story didn't wake up Roky, rather grandmother gave one of her potions to help heal Roky so she could wake up

[fierce ledge]

And deadlock protocol cause like. Your fighting a warframe that can reverse time. And heal itself to full health

Instantly

[onyx quartz]

That's why the xoris Is important

[fierce ledge]

Watched it on YouTube cause I needed help to start it and I didn’t see no potion being given

[subtle crown]

RIP Xoris.

[vital owl]

that one was setting up Parvos. And Nef trying to take control of the Corpus

[fierce ledge]

Xoris? I think I know a thing or 2 about that. (If you were here the other day in gameplay discussion you’d know what I’m talking about)

[torpid lantern]

It's not shown visually. It's part of the dialogue at the end

[fierce ledge]

Oh.

Well yea waverider just like doesn’t fit in with the lore to me so

[torpid lantern]

Here you go. Boon says this at the end
"It's done. Me and Glinty, we stuffed Nef's deal. I sussed out exactly who his mystery buyer on Deimos was. Big Granny Blue was so happy to get a copy of Waverider 1 that she sent back some weird elixir for you, Roky. Sparked your neuro conduit back to life in seconds, it did!"

[fierce ledge]

Oh

[torpid lantern]

The ventkids are my favorite group in all of Warframe so if you ever have questions about them, fire away!

[vital owl]

Yes, Waverider is a side story about buying and selling comic books

[fierce ledge]

No wonder it never fit into the lore

[supple dagger]

those comic books that contain a toy

[vital owl]

LOL

[torpid lantern]

It fits just fine into the lore

It's a story that the writer hid Yareli's bp in. Nef wanted it so he could sell it for a lot of money, but the Ventkids tried to get it first because Yareli was a hero to them that had saved multiple enslaved children during the time of the Orokin

[onyx quartz]

Yareli was also the warframe that inspired the k-drives

I believe that was mentioned somewhere?

[supple dagger]

afaik nef didn't know the graphica contained the warframe

just that it did contain something valuable

[torpid lantern]

Grandmother was friends with Yareli's operator during the Old War which is why she was trying to buy it

[fierce ledge]

You mean grandmother from demios

[torpid lantern]

Oh yeah, I think you're right. Nef just wanted it because it was valuable. Sorry xD

[fierce ledge]

Classic nef

[vital owl]

Basically everything a Corpus does is for money

[torpid lantern]

The very same. Yep! Before all that infested mess, she and Yareli were friends

[supple dagger]

mostly iirc nef was blackmailing roky and when she got fatally injured, the rest of the ventkids wanted you to finish the job to cover what roky was doing

[thick jolt]

Grandmother even has an infested kdrive for those who complete her races

[vital owl]

her races are no joke either

[torpid lantern]

Well... not all of them. After awhile Nef convinced a lot of the younger kids that Roky had been doing biz with him and they kinda turned on her
Boon set them straight, thankfully

[molten crystal]

Except Sigor Savah, he do what he do for cat

[runic cloak]

basically everything the solaris does is for money too.

[subtle crown]

What I'm curious about, many players could basically completely erase the debt of all Fortunans and a select few could probably do so many times over. I'm surprised they aren't asking for employment in a similar way to syndicate crewmembers.

[spark herald]

Corpus have a very harsh anti-charity doctrine.

[subtle crown]

Hence employment.

[kindred briar]

probably a clause in their current contract with Anyo that they cannot leave until all their debt has been paid, which we can never pay off as Anyo adds more debt on top that he just keeps locked away in case we try something like that

[subtle crown]

We do pay off debts though. Ticker.

Then Grandmother bought property in fortuna that Nef can't interfere with.

[kindred briar]

so why don't we just buy Fortuna as a whole?

[subtle crown]

My point exactly.

[kindred briar]

this is probably one of those times where we overlooked the canon Tenno overlapping with gameplay Tenno

since in gameplay we can be fabulously wealthy (credit wise), the actual Tenno probably aren't nearly as much

[narrow jay]

So tell me, if an Operator wakes from the Second Dream, does it mean he is resisting a rest?

[kindred briar]

badum tss

[narrow jay]

Why wouldn't the Corpus open a restaurant on Lua? || The view would be outstanding but it would have no Atmosphere!

[kindred briar]

Lua has atmo after the Orokin terraforming

[cyan crest]

They're still fighting over Lua with the grineer tho

[vagrant sorrel]

There is a very important difference in the context though. Corpus themselves are monstrously amoral hyercapitalist profiteers that are literally taking your legs if you can't pay up.

The Solaris need to pay their endlessly growing debts in order to meet most basic necessities - To survive.
Those two things aren't even remotely the same

[narrow jay]

Do NOT look at the necks of the Vent Kids. Nuff said.

[vital owl]

what necks?

[cyan crest]

They don't have necks

Are you just saying jokes and slightly obscure facts or...?

[subtle crown]

They are jokes that could be considered spoilers for new players. Even if most of the information is several years old.

[cyan crest]

Yes but the channel is for post-new war spoilers, not for ventkid necks

[real niche]

No it's just for any spoilers

[supple dagger]

Looking for a place to chat all things post-New War, AoZ, any & all Warframe quests and spoilers? You've come to the right place!

taken from pinned

[cyan crest]

I was taking my comment from the channel description

Which says post-New War spoilers and theories about future content

[vital owl]

here's an idea but IF none of you are mods, let mods do their jobs on what gets posted where

[cursive mesa]

hii im having a fit i just finally soloed the teralyst with a completely unoptimized xoris
(im very proud of myself)

[torpid lantern]

This chat is specifically meant to discuss upcoming or unreleased content.

The additional info is because speculating about upcoming content often entails discussing past quests at the same time.

[sharp matrix]

I came back from a mission and hear "hey, kiddo"

i think in ballas's voice

[supple dagger]

that depends on your operator selected voice iirc

[torpid lantern]

That's Man in the Wall speaking. He speaks in his own voice. Ballas has no control over him.

[sharp matrix]

i think i chose heron

[sharp matrix]

[sharp spoke]

COME ON!!!

• Magic Space Child

[toxic basin]

what’s with the void-themed design on angels of the zariman? it’s like this curves and swirls going around like some ancient technology thing

[gritty pike]

Grineer prey on the week, but we, we prey on the grineer

• Magic Space Child

[sharp spoke]

It just seems to be the "natural" growth patterns of pure void corruption

[gritty pike]

MF sounds so creepy when he says that

[toxic basin]

hmmm

[sharp spoke]

It very much reminds me of the Protomolecule a la The Expanse, growing in nautilus spirals that seem random, but when looked at closely have an almost deliberate structure

[wicked iron]

The pin says it's good for discussing any/all quests and spoilers, too. 🙂

[sharp spoke]

You must fight to the death to determine what tier of spoilers are allowed

[torpid lantern]

Lol

[wicked iron]

Why fight to the death? O_o

This isn't Rathuum!

[sharp spoke]

It's the only way

[torpid lantern]

How about we settle on a friendly game of Komi

[craggy drum]

It’s dog days.

The mods gotta have a water gun fight

[wicked iron]

I guess we will find out, in time. 😄

16 more days.

[sharp spoke]

I mucking love the void corruption aesthetic. It's beautiful, in a horrific "oh my god what the hell happened here" kind of way

I hope the angels are fun to fight

[craggy drum]

Same

It’s pretty and alien and kind of terrifying because it’s solid looking but the material is constantly moving.

I love things that are eerily beautiful but also terrifyingly unknown

[sharp spoke]

Saaaaame. Mad props to the design team on this one. And everything else, really, but especially AoZ.

I remember when playing TNW when I first realized that many of the void corrupted areas were human shapes.
Terrifying, and awesome in the literal sense of the word

[gusty breach]

i just hope the enemy combat animations arent really choppy and sudden like almost every other enemy in the game

i want them to be fluid and smooth, eerily so

kinda like the dancer of the boreal valley

or most dark souls enemies actually

[sharp spoke]

I really like the idea of both, though. I feel like something like that would not move in a way that is natural to us

[gusty breach]

yea, but we already have the sentients for that. they're very rigid and almost look programmed, more like robots than even the corpus enemies

the void is constantly depicted as a flowing ocean, misty currents, even the void corruption on the zariman is twisting and flows

[sharp spoke]

True that

[gusty breach]

i think it would be only natural for something of the void to move too smoothly, like fighting a force of nature more than anything else

[sharp spoke]

Yeah, I buy that.
Maybe it'll be like the T-1000, and act like a fluid sometimes.
Big ol' knife hands and such

[gusty breach]

i wouldnt go that far, considering that the void isnt amorphous, just sleek and efficient

[sharp spoke]

Ye

[wicked iron]

I really hope we get the Tron-like boss against a Neural Sentry one day. That was something they discussed forever ago, and would be so awesome to see. The lore around would be amazing, I'm sure! 😄

"Behind him, no horizon, but a vast broiling sea of caustic light pierced at random by black-pin stars. And closer, around me, a gale of flowing vapor. Profane in color, billowing relentlessly into the nascent lack, seeking all directions." From the 5th requiem, RIS, with Albrecht's story. I think the Void is amorphous, from that description. Could certainly be wrong, though lol

That it looked even partially like his laboratory while also looking like that seems to indicate as much to me.

[simple python]

Iirc, you could still move around with Gyre's uh... Rotosphere? Her 4. I figured it was stationary and would have a larger range. I guess not.

[thick jolt]

Stationary ability would be a waste of her special roll animation i guess

[simple python]

For her 4? What was her roll ability anyway? Looked like she blipped in and out of existence. Might've been then camera positioning but?

[thick jolt]

Yeah her roll is a teleport

[simple python]

I would also like to express some concerns over her 1 and 2. The former, I get. It's a dmg ability. I assumed her 2 was a gravity well or something akin to that?
But if they're nearly the same, what's the difference between the two abilities? (Might just be an error on the wikia's part with not listing the entire description.)

[thick jolt]

2 groups up enemies 1 damages them
1 has increased damage for impacting on multiple enemies

[simple python]

Alright. So her 2 is a cc

[thick jolt]

Looked like it during devstream

[simple python]

Her 2 has a 12m range... kinda close but now with her 4 being mobile, guess it doesn't mean much for concern.

[thick jolt]

She seems reasonably mobile yes

[simple python]

Hmn... so her 1's a dmg ability, her 2's a cc, her 3 is a buff, and her 4... I guess also dmg.

Oh yes, her passive.
1: Does it also activate with electric inflicted from external weaponry? (guns, melees)
2: does the crit dmg apply to her weapons or her ability's dmg?
3: cap on passive?

I guess nix the 2nd one unless? but the wikia says her abilities have the crit bonus.

[queen maple]

#giveaways

[thick jolt]

The passive seems to word it so any electric proc works for her abilities crit chance

[spring yew]

Finished New War today and well... Kahl is the best. It was so fun playing as a Grineer even Corpus though Kahl is best. Testing well it would have been fun if it didn't change my melee to be E again because of his Glaive.

As for playing as the Drifter. Probably the most fun I had playing as an operator ever. Yea the Sirrico isn't the best Amp but it is the most aesthetically pleasing.

I do wish that in the future they turn the Drifter into more than. Just a cosmetic change. Luke honestly having a weapon other than an Amp I'd so awesome. Would like Drifter specific stuff to be added like maybe making the Sirrico the only Amp the Drifter can have but I dunno give it mods. These are just ideas that probably won't happen but I can dream.

[subtle crown]

I hope we're never, EVER, forced to use only the sirocco on drifter. It's such a colossal downgrade functionality and power wise to regular amps.

[spring yew]

I did say Ability to add mods to it

Like operator Amp mods or something. Again I don't see this ever happening

[subtle crown]

"Mod it to have 12x the base damage and function like my 2-4-7 amp"

[spring yew]

But I dislike the other amps

Animations are clunky specially if you are moving and honestly it just feels nice to handle and while it may not be the best it's not the worst

[subtle crown]

The devs at least told us we will be able to upgrade the sirocco with angels update.

[spring yew]

Oh

Hope rising

[subtle crown]

So it finally might be able to start catching up to the power levels of a 1-1-1 amp.

[spring yew]

I mean it's already decent enough for new players

It's certainly better than the Amp I have