#spoiler-chat

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small cipher
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here's a Quick idea for a new Protoframe, spoilers for the Old Peace.

||Ok so i am crafting a idea of a Caliban Proto frame who is our Teacher Itzam from the Old Peace fused with a Vessel and a touch of the void.

The Lore idea is Albrecht travels back in time to Snatch up what remains of Itzam. Using his technology to sort of revive them into a normal state. merging Sentient technology, a Vessel he had laying around and A bit of power from the Void.

Unfortunately this has left Itzam in a horrible state of dread since he is the last one of his Kind, a Normal Sentient (somewhat). He almost goes insane by the murmur due to learning this unfortunate knowledge...until he sees the Tenno, recognizing them and holds together.

Because of what Itzam could do in terms of his presence in the Origin System and his knowledge. Albrecht sealed him away and told Loid to only release him IF they were to ever head back to Tau, for Itzam knows of technology to allow such travel.||

inner galleon
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NEW WAR IS PEAK

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just finished new war

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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they've been consistent with that

visual birch
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Caliban?

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Is half sentient is he not

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Basically applying the same process here but with itzam

zenith jacinth
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half sentient, half infested, warframes only channel void not contain it

visual birch
small cipher
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remember what i said this Protoframe would be Half Sentient, half Vessel and a touch of the void

zenith jacinth
visual birch
small cipher
visual birch
zenith jacinth
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seems counterproductive to keep a sentient alive with the thing they're supposed to die to

small cipher
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nope. I just want some love for Caliban

visual birch
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Except its a sentient getting void powers rather than a warframe becoming sentient

uncut solar
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How about we show love to a warframe without putting an unrelated character in a warframe shaped suit

small cipher
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Itzam was my fav from the Old peace. and it killed me that he died..

uncut solar
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New caliban deluxe would've been cool, but he's not popular enough for that

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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I don't remember itzam dying.. then again I only played old peace once on release

small cipher
uncut solar
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Itzam flies away and gets blown up with a missile launcher

zenith jacinth
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without xenoflora itzam might also just. not stay an individual

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he looked like a fragment

uncut solar
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He looked like one of the caliban summons

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Just wearing glasses

zenith jacinth
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summulyst yea

small cipher
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so it looks like a Weird amalgam of sentient, a vessel and Albrecht's tech

zenith jacinth
uncut solar
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Im just tired of protos

visual birch
# zenith jacinth he looked like a fragment

Def a fragment all the non fragments are special either the big ones like poe hunhow or praghasa, or natah and erra which dont look like fragments but they are small. Adis is also likely not a fragment

uncut solar
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The harsh truth is

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Protos have zero chance of being anything other than appealing looking humans because protos now exist to sell the game to lowest common denominator gooners

visual birch
flat tree
zenith jacinth
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forcing protos with poor reasoning is how we got the triad, and no lore person likes the triad

flat tree
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Lyon and Marie contestable

small cipher
visual birch
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Can we just return to sci fi

zenith jacinth
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vessels were made using dna from the hex

flat tree
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Ya'll think Albrecht wakes in a cold sweat with the spirit of digital extremes, telling him to infect more people with the helminth

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like its 4 batches atp

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split between 15 seperate warframes across 3 seperate times

zenith jacinth
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always less though, luckily

flat tree
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next protoframe is just one person

solid otter
solid otter
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There is not a single bed in the backrooms, not a single one

echo basalt
solid otter
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There's

The couches but I know from experience long term sleeping on a couch hurts your back like nothing else

flat tree
solid otter
small cipher
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maybe do Paul Dobson as a Baruuk Protoframe?

thick iron
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no more ascension for me 🔥

zenith jacinth
solid otter
small cipher
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Ke Huy Quan as nezha proto and Paul Dobson as Baruuk proto

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the teacher and student

thick iron
small cipher
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OOO and maybe equinox proto could be a transgender person.
So both sides are diffrent. male as day, female as night

solid otter
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I

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Think thats a bit too far

small cipher
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you'd be suprised. that has been done before

zenith jacinth
small cipher
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yes. i know.

small cipher
solid otter
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Good trans rep makes it a little more subtle, and

That just sounds like a gateway to someone's fetish, ill be so honest

zenith jacinth
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and that
wouldn't exactly be trans either?
more like genderfluid

small cipher
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ahhh my bad sorry

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JoLaXByPlQQ

in dbd (i don't play it anymore) this Killer the Unknown is voiced by someone who is Gender fluid. doing both a male and female voice

The Unknown All Lobby Voices | Part 1

If you've got any bugs you would like to showcase or submit feel free to join my discord server: https://discord.gg/XCW9RcEt6U Or feel free to email me a clip at dstrikebusiness@gmail.com

#dbd #dbdclips #dbdshorts #deadbydaylight #DStrike #TheJRM #TheBox #Shorts #dbdbugs #theunknown #unknown

▶ Play video
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So a equinox proto, one side sounds more feminine, while the other sounds more masculine. and when they are in between. it sounds like a mix of the 2

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not trying to sound like i'm being rude or anything. just a idea that popped in my mind now.

Would be very intresting and cool imo :>

solid otter
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I. Believe whole heartedly that DE needs to stop making protos. Its genuinely affecting other characters in bad, unintentional ways and its starting to get obvious

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The unintentional damage Marie did to Albrecht's character pisses me off. An unreasonable amount

small cipher
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that's alright, and understandable. to each their own I say!

i love the idea of Proto frames. adds character to frames we enjoy :>

zenith jacinth
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if done well, protos can be good, like the first two times. now it's just forced for the sake of adding more

solid otter
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Its not really an each to their own, I like the protoframes but it has to have an endpoint. They can't keep assassinating Albrecht's character for the sake of money, its getting nauseating.

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The whole point of him is that he doesn't enjoy doing this

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He doesnt want to be doing this

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And. When you get. What. 13? Now 15? Protoframes, it gets to a point where it's becoming clear he doesnt actually have an issue with it

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Which is undermining his character!

echo basalt
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ngl these new 2 don't seem connected to his ass

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like at all

solid otter
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Which makes it worse for me i think

echo basalt
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do to the corpus tech

solid otter
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Just opens up more space for them to continue ruining other characters with it. The consent conversations were and still are horrible

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I'm tired boss.

obtuse gyro
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because the progression pattern would be clear

solid otter
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Yeah. It would be

obtuse gyro
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from unwilling uninformed, to willing informed, to sought out desired

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so like, not so much of any assassination there because we can see a thoughtline of growth on albrecht's part

solid otter
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It would be acceptable, but. Then comes the question of why would he agree?

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For shits and giggles?

obtuse gyro
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Have you seen the two nutters?

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I wouldnt be suprised if it was under threat

solid otter
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Eh. Least it would line up to Albrecht doing dumb shit under stress

echo basalt
solid otter
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Not... entirely sure why Parvos would do that to people who probably want to murder him

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before becoming protos i mean

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Bevause
The hex do kinda wanna murder Albrecht

echo basalt
flat tree
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Well,
did they become protos before or after finding the boys?

solid otter
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Good question

echo basalt
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yea thats a good question

solid otter
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We'll learn in like

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Just under 14 days

echo basalt
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also where the shit are they both from

solid otter
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I believe different timelines?

echo basalt
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not in terms of time

solid otter
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Oh as in

Country,..?

echo basalt
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yea

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well itd be colony

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or settlement

flat tree
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If they became protos after it is for them if its before then that means they were already like this

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Ryoku has some connection to the Corpus of that timeline

echo basalt
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both do

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actually

solid otter
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Well Vena is. I think.. based on her facial jewellery [its called a Nath!], maybe south Asia?

echo basalt
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as theres corpus writing on proto garudas blades

solid otter
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Which aligns to Garuda's name sake from memory

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Something something Hinduism

celest hollow
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yep hindu

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Garuda is some kinda bird god iirc

solid otter
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Some people were upset about Vena not being a vampire

For some reason. Unsure how they got vampire from Garuda? Maybe just

The blood aspect

flat tree
echo basalt
solid otter
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Nice to see south Asian rep tho you never really see it that often I feel

celest hollow
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i mean we got Wukong and Nezha as east asian tributes

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Garuda for south asian

flat tree
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is it wrong that the first character I thought of during her reveal was Symmetra 😭

celest hollow
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Nokko for the Aussies

solid otter
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WHY IS NOKKO AUSSIE

celest hollow
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Nokko and Oraxia

flat tree
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Oraxia 🥀

solid otter
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WHY IS ORAXIA

celest hollow
solid otter
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SHES BASED ON A SOUTH ASIAN SPIDER

solid otter
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💔

celest hollow
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im not a spider fan

solid otter
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Look up horned orb weaver if you're up to it

celest hollow
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i have moderate arachnophobia so no

cerulean kiln
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But there’s spiders that aren’t native to Australia

celest hollow
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im not in the mood to punch a hole thru my screen

solid otter
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Well. Just know they are. Very similar

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Colour scheme and all

celest hollow
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well i mean i associate australia as the spider country

cerulean kiln
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We’d have to know what spider Oraxia is based on

solid otter
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-# we have cool reptiles

echo basalt
solid otter
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-# ever seen a. Uh. Blue tongue lizard/skink

celest hollow
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isnt that an insult

flat tree
zenith jacinth
celest hollow
solid otter
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Our spiders are mainly harmless if you don't stick your appendages in places they aint supposed to be in

visual birch
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Wait guys lowkey let me cook...
Ant frame

solid otter
celest hollow
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spiders are omnipresent tho

flat tree
zenith jacinth
flat tree
visual birch
cerulean kiln
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What happens if you try to attack an Australian spider

zenith jacinth
solid otter
celest hollow
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i will anger the swarm present under australia

zenith jacinth
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rhino is a rhino with a skin based on a rhino beetle

solid otter
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They are far smaller than you

visual birch
celest hollow
visual birch
solid otter
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And generally far more afraid of you than you are of it

zenith jacinth
solid otter
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A spider bites because its scared BenThumbs

visual birch
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THE ANT FRAME THE ANT FRAME IS REAAAALLL

celest hollow
flat tree
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small Beetle phobia

solid otter
celest hollow
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like if theyre gonna move, stay to the corners and away from meeee

zenith jacinth
solid otter
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Spiders go where food is

There's food in your home

cerulean kiln
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How do Australian spiders always get in despite all the ways to stop them getting in

celest hollow
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yes i like spiders that just stay in their corners eating minor insects

solid otter
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Not in new houses, no but the majority of older houses

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As in

Right to the outside

cerulean kiln
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Do the people making the houses want them in

zenith jacinth
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should add spinning razor blades to the vents

solid otter
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Well. Spiders are generally beneficial

visual birch
solid otter
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They keep away bugs, infestations

zenith jacinth
solid otter
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Generally serve good for your ecosystem

wild wind
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Less than an hour ago I had a giant moth come out of my bedroom closet

solid otter
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Did yall know mosquitoes are pollinators?

wild wind
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thus coming into this chat and seeing this is extremely amusing

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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more than an hour ago I had a bird in the hallway outside my room

solid otter
wild wind
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yep

cerulean kiln
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I swear flies can hardly ever get caught by spiders

zenith jacinth
solid otter
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I've been caught by a spider far too many times

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Hate roller-skating down this one street because of it

visual birch
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@wild wind bro u aint get the reference?

solid otter
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Golden orb weavers, not really related to the aforementioned horned orb weaver, like to make giant ass webs across huge spaces

zenith jacinth
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there's no need to react to a reference to show you understand it

solid otter
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Like. Paths.

visual birch
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Rip thomas

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They gonna get u one day

solid otter
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Eh

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They already have

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A spider bite is fine

flat tree
solid otter
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Snake bites are fine

visual birch
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Black mamba

solid otter
visual birch
zenith jacinth
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as long as you're not in the middle of nowhere you're likely to survive 90% of animal bites

zenith jacinth
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australia has medical buildings too

flat tree
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Any of ya'll seen a Tarantula hawk?

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flying shits with blue skin and orange wings

solid otter
# visual birch Black mamba

In Australia, firstly, and before you bring up the inland tipan, they have never been confirmed to have killed a person

visual birch
zenith jacinth
solid otter
visual birch
flat tree
zenith jacinth
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no I
I was correcting pc
tarantula hawk wasp

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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both are correct apparently

solid otter
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Wait until you see a mountain chicken

zenith jacinth
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but who leaves out the wasp part...

zenith jacinth
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fairy

solid otter
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PEPIS

zenith jacinth
# flat tree

you are the only one I've ever seen leave out the wasp

zenith jacinth
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they are multiple pepsi

flat tree
solid otter
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FORGOT THE S

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Pipis...

zenith jacinth
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wow that gets filtered.

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good to knowOperatorHeadache

flat tree
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The bastards are still terrifying to see in person though

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Haven't gotten stung by one but from what I hear its, numbing and paralysis

flat tree
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Can almost kill me irl too

tame canopy
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another one, soon for helminth...

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Crazy good haul this relic run (ignore timestamp discrepancy - a host migration happened) I legit got a universal medallionf in-mission, for the first time ever

visual birch
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No cost too great no blood too precious

zenith jacinth
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the veil is just a collection of edgelords who forgot the original purpose

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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that's literally just the red veil

visual birch
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Thats hexis

zenith jacinth
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"they kill any they deem corrupt"

visual birch
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Hexis are bums, suda too

zenith jacinth
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no rhyme or reason just "I don't like you, die"

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kill squads are non-canon

visual birch
zenith jacinth
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it is what it is

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you annoy me too much with your stubbornness

visual birch
# zenith jacinth it is what it is

where do they say they aint canon? maybe its confirmed but i can see the syndicates being petty like that plus tenno have their own alignments too. they group up into clans and while they dont fight with each other not all of them gonna see eye to eye

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also hexis and suda still suck equally

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at least red veil got peak fits (black and red 😭 ) and cool aesthetics

tame canopy
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I once played a defection vitus mission for like 5 or 6 waves with wisp, red veil guys apparently wants to kidnap kavor people cuz they wanna dissect them lol, they high key live up to their no cost too great ethos

flat tree
tame canopy
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Also their room has a grineer being dissected??? The hell are they doing with them lmao

snow ice
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science

tame canopy
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Heh, thats simaris' specialty HappyHyekka

visual birch
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does suda have a main quest?

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does?

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____?

tame canopy
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Suda's quest let us see tsudere simaris so worth it and 10/10 HappyHyekka

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Got old simaris to go uhh and umming when he pulled up to save suda from hunhow lmao

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HappyHyekka he got a loyalty defect kek

flat tree
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And not killing 9 billion people

visual birch
tame canopy
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Whenever you the tenno do simaris scan missions you are basically sending that target to the Digital Circus Sanctuary ™ to be killed non stop in the onslaught

visual birch
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the love for suda is ungarnerd

visual birch
tame canopy
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I like the hexis, personally, i wonder how they make their brand of anti warframe tech, and why theyre considered arbiters for the tenno and others

visual birch
tame canopy
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Arbitration drones

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Makes enemies invulnerable, cant be damaged by wf abilities, need u to use ur loadout to shoot or slash them down

visual birch
tame canopy
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Since when did vor got some? Unless you mean whenever he gets shield gated from damage

visual birch
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(before anyone says u cant ik)

tame canopy
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Corpus and grineer got their own anti wf tech of sort too

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Corpus for their nullifier bubble guys, grineer for that one guy who throws a javelin that ejects you out as operator mode until you shoot it down lol

zenith jacinth
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the javelineers are female actually

tame canopy
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They are????? I barely notice tbh, theyre all the same to me in death HappyHyekka

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Its quite fitting that the grineer got relatively better anti wf tech, since the worm queens were former orokins and have relations to kuva

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I say that cuz the bubbles cant address our modded gear that our wf wields whereas the javelins force you out of the wf entirely and you cant even break the bubble it projects until you break the javelins, either by operator or you go out of its radius

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The javelin are also way smaller and less obvious a target then the nullifiers too imo

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Of course, they stopped being challenging once you played long enough, but between the two, kuva grineer javelineers are more annoying to me lol

tame canopy
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Most effortless farm for kuva HappyHyekka

celest hollow
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yk

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suda is actually the most irrelvant syndicate like what do they even do

solid otter
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She

celest hollow
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Music

solid otter
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Syndicates don't do shit in general

celest hollow
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i mean like contentwise

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suda has a minor side quest

solid otter
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She. Has a whole quest? More than a few syndicates

celest hollow
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arbiters is in charge of a whole gamemode

solid otter
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She also has a whole gamemode

tame canopy
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Glast unlocks u a game mode too lol

celest hollow
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what gamemode does suda have

tame canopy
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Hexis recently sort of got a quest via follies hunt

celest hollow
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Red veil has War within

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or no

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Chains of harrow

solid otter
celest hollow
solid otter
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You can replay that, its the incident report next to her

celest hollow
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ik that but thats just a long mission

solid otter
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Yeah a

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A game mode

celest hollow
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steel meri is in charge of a boss fight and a whole gamemode

solid otter
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Thats. A gamemode

tame canopy
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all gamemodes are long missions 🥀

celest hollow
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nuh uh

solid otter
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Yuh huh

celest hollow
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nuh UH

solid otter
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YUH HUH

flat tree
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What does the Perrin Sequence do lore wise considering Bekk is
a fraud

celest hollow
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-# shi idk how to discord formatt

junior quarry
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Thomas

tame canopy
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Basically good guy corpus who thinks captialism needs some reining in iirc

celest hollow
solid otter
celest hollow
junior quarry
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and a space after

solid otter
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-# its just the small one without the dash

flat tree
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for big

-# for small

solid otter
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wou... loid....

celest hollow
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WOT

flat tree
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or ##

celest hollow
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huh

flat tree
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for big

junior quarry
celest hollow
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omg

flat tree
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Lets just start screaming!

tame canopy
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use for code`

junior quarry
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AHHHHHHH

celest hollow
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No

tame canopy
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``

celest hollow
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wow the more yk

tame canopy
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Use `` for codeblock

solid otter
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to make all text indented...?

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And then a space

celest hollow
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oddity

solid otter
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peculiar
How odd
How strange

tame canopy
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my man cat

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Use ~~

cerulean kiln
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I wonder if this is only a thing that works on Discord

tame canopy
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Nah these are markdown

solid otter
tame canopy
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Mhm. Markdown compatible formats

zenith jacinth
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-# Baro

tame canopy
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They added url formatting too iirc [] ()

zenith jacinth
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little baro

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uh.. normal baro

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I forgot that the big text format doesn't work for emojis

solid otter
celest hollow
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cries about it

solid otter
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-# Baro

zenith jacinth
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-# Baro

tame canopy
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We are the baroling

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Feed us ducats

solid otter
celest hollow
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wub

solid otter
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Wubby..

celest hollow
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wub wub

still trench
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Literally the next update be like:

celest hollow
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Mods, subject them to the Jade Light

still trench
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Couldn't find his name

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Oh shi.. let me find here quick

solid otter
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Mm, odd

cerulean kiln
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Isn’t it usually written on the art?

solid otter
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Most artists put their name on the art

still trench
still trench
cerulean kiln
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What a name 4morian

solid otter
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Well

Easiest art to steal ever

still trench
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I hope there's a valid explanation for stalker's kid to "grow"

zenith jacinth
visual birch
celest hollow
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trokkarians

visual birch
tame canopy
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Sonion should replay a zariman mission HappyHyekka

celest hollow
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nah, sentence them to the Jade Light and be done with it

tame canopy
glacial nymph
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Dealing with the shards for the first time.. Uhh.. Do they give me all the buffs and I pick one to be boosted further? or do I have to pick one of the buffs?

solid otter
glacial nymph
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Ahh okay, thanks

balmy storm
hearty pendant
solid otter
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Ive died too many times with jade's long cast animation for her. Buff Abilities

balmy storm
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Good for longer casters ofc but it is both silly and fast lol

visual birch
balmy storm
visual birch
balmy storm
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Sprint speed is largely not useful but can be used for funny

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Or wait
There isn’t sprint speed
Apologies

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Parkour velocity is good but also situational

visual birch
balmy storm
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I got it mixed up with sprint speed cause fast and funny lol
Parkour velocity is good for speed

balmy storm
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Also ig you can just get to the top via the jump pad right at the start if you aim glide

fierce kiln
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you just know if rebb ever saw this she would write gunchucks to the to be added list

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special gunblade or something

visual birch
celest hollow
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gunscythe

wild wind
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It's a scythe with the gunblade heavy attack

worthy wren
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Do you think Zeke will be effected by the Nidus retouch?

limpid smelt
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^Hey Tenno. If you need to reach out to DE Directly, I recommend reaching out via a support ticket at https://support.warframe.com With that said, this sounds like something that should be discussed directly with Support, and not here in the Discord server where they won't see it. Thanks.

gilded gazelle
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Apologies

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I dont know where to contact support

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As in outside of the site

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It only lets me select some options

limpid smelt
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you'll contact them on https://support.warframe.com . Simply select the option most relevant to your topic, if it's not 100% accurate that's OK.

flat tree
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guh
Digital extremes liquid :o

balmy storm
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Cause he shares an ability with him?
I think code-wise it may just be similar

worthy wren
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I just know DE tends to reuse stuff and they share two abilities and I'm hoping he'll be a better on call crewmate so was wondering if there was president for this type of change

zenith jacinth
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precedent*, but I don't think there is

shadow forum
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👀 imagine they make new archon shards .

wild wind
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🙏

fierce kiln
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alchemized elemental or physical archon mods

thick iron
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what happened to lato vandal did they make it easier to get or something

winged sandal
thick iron
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holy hell

celest hollow
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yeah screw the elitist lato vandal market

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embrace torture and consign yourself to Hespar Blade

lofty girder
uncut solar
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Lato vandal has fallen

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Billions must defend exodampers

celest hollow
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Pay Pennace for your Greed. Void Armageddon is Upon us.

lofty girder
celest hollow
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-# "Bring Hot and Cold together... its a Blast" - Fih ||(onachee)||

wise solstice
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Who here has all the hex at “Best Friend” rank?

wild wind
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Most people here probably

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It takes about two weeks and they've been out for years

flat tree
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Not if you're lazy as hell [me]

supple igloo
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I have yet to get The Devil’s Triad to max bc I pissed Roathe off and he’s got Anathema against me and I’m too lazy to go fix it.

lethal vortex
#

Have they fixed the Devil's Triad KIM problem yet

celest hollow
#

maybe there is no problem

#

maybe ppl just are bad at talking to the Triad

#

and following each characters narrative

#

maybe.

uncut solar
#

As a certified smooth triad talker

#

I got a bug once

#

I sent a ticket for them to reset the triad fully without the consequences of resetting normally

#

Bug didn't happen

celest hollow
#

i only failed Roathe once and i think it was necessary for new dialogue

#

failed as in i got anathema

solid otter
#

I didn't need to reset at all

#

I got genuinely so lucky

#

Only had one real bug

celest hollow
#

i mean the reset told me that Roathe happens to remember everything even after resetting him

solid otter
#

I was aware of it from something else lol

celest hollow
#

oh

uncut solar
#

My only bug was that suddenly Marie started talking about events that didn't happen

radiant aurora
#

Wait, how do the frames go to the 1999 thing?

zenith jacinth
radiant aurora
#

Alr thx

balmy storm
#

Albrecht also set something up so we have access to our arsenal in 1999

inner galleon
#

I just finished the hex quest and im still had things loading in my head

#

what is protoframes?

zenith jacinth
inner galleon
#

yeah like but what is them

#

what is the hex

solid otter
#

Half baked warframes

zenith jacinth
#

the name is misleading, protoframes are people injected with modified strains of the regular frames that progresses slower

inner galleon
#

holyshit

zenith jacinth
#

they do not predate the original frames

inner galleon
#

so protoframes are waframes but half human with their own consciousness ?

zenith jacinth
#

yes

inner galleon
#

thats so cool

#

and cant you date with the protoframes? im lowk down with some romance

#

how tho

balmy storm
#

Treat them like actual people, don’t be rude, get advice from Quincy

lethal vortex
#

Causing me to need to reset

inner galleon
solid otter
#

The names do give away some of it

#

Surely the one named broadsword is the guy who used a sword

inner galleon
#

thanks alot for letting me know guys CLEMLove

lethal vortex
#

I already dated every Hex member, and imma keep myself on best friends status with all the members

flat tree
#

The ethics of being able to reset time?

#

I assume the Hex are aware of the time loop?

balmy storm
#

It is an ethical nightmare lol

lethal vortex
#

I've resetted many times for the hex before the devil's triad just to date each one, then when i was done, i had the last reset just be me not dating a single one of them

#

Same thing i'll be doing with the devil's triad after getting all the captura scenes

#

Cause my brain decided to do it after accidentally being on loved with Marie

#

Originally i was not gonna go for the scenes

flat tree
#

Or just know there's simply a loop happening every year

slate roost
#

Just want to say, you know, talk into the void: Excalibur umbra grabing the tenno was the coolest gaming moment i've had since i played metroid: other m as a child. Thank you.

balmy storm
wild wind
#

like, the big thing is that they don't do exactly the same thing every day

#

maybe they miss a Scaldra grunt one loop and he gets promoted to squad leader and leads a purge

cosmic prawn
wild wind
#

They also don't forget the first loop, the reactor run

lyric beacon
#

how do i get passed this guy

#

new war quest

#

ive tried using my smoke bomb and he still sees me

shadow forum
#

Give us the exact map

#

We can't see that one

shadow forum
weak stratus
#

Just learned about HOW the tenno killed the Orikin from Stalker's little excerpt on why he hates us, and yea...

Apparently it was a massacre at a ceramony of triumph for the Tenno?

solid otter
#

mhm

#

night of the naga drums

#

completely planned by ballas

visual birch
night grail
visual birch
wild wind
#

tbf I don't think they mention it outside of the Stalker codex

night grail
#

Sorry I take this knowledge for granted this is grounding as hell

wild wind
#

real

night grail
#

Ive been knowing the night of the naga drums for like a decade

wild wind
#

I had someone ask me why the aliens looked like humans

visual birch
wild wind
#

And I was like "well the Lotus is a mimic" and they said "no I mean the blue guys with the arm"

visual birch
#

Like orokin cleary liked disproportionate bodies

night grail
#

Also Reaper's Lament

flat tree
#

Straight from the stars

night grail
#

TRUE THEY DID MENTION IT THERE

solid otter
#

the flames of whatever i forgor

wild wind
weak stratus
# visual birch New player prob

Technically no, but also yes... see, I first started back around 2017 (I've been playing on and off since then), but that was when I was a kid, and by the time I actually could tell what was happening, I had absolutely no idea what was happening. I think I ended off getting Excalibur Umbra or somewhere around there when I was a kid, and continued a few months ago from The New War. Most recently, I finally got around to doing the Uriel quest, but it felt like he was kinda shoehorned in there a bit.

But yeah, up until recently, I had no idea what any of the lore was. I'm thinking I might try to replay all of the quests again, because OH BOY, I missed a lot as a kid

weak stratus
weak stratus
flat tree
weak stratus
#

Oh, yea

#

I played through all of that, but I only had a vague idea of what was going on

wild wind
#

good idea to replay then lol

weak stratus
#

^

flat tree
wild wind
#

Old Peace is a bit abbreviated but it does hit like a megaton with how it explains/reorganizes a bunch of the backstory

weak stratus
#

I should say, it was more of a lore confusion. I rememer everything we did, but not everything that was said, if that makes sense

weak stratus
#

I did indeed

flat tree
#

and get Duviri?

weak stratus
#

Yep BaruukDance

flat tree
weak stratus
#

Yes indeed! (I'm in Steel Path at the moment)

#

I also did all the funky stuff with the Murmur

solid otter
#

whispers!

#

my top most replayed quest

weak stratus
#

I had absolutely no idea what was going on there though. That and 1999

visual birch
solid otter
#

with a grand total of. 12 times?

weak stratus
wild wind
#

Still the wildest thing in WF

flat tree
solid otter
#

mm, not that strange

visual birch
weak stratus
#

I had no idea who that was when I saw him

wild wind
#

we genuinely thought the Vessels were going to be the next big thing

#

And not T I M E T R A V E L

weak stratus
night grail
#

Hey the vessels facilitated time travel

flat tree
#

The Hex is simply PEAK

night grail
wild wind
#

They're actually giant Warframes

weak stratus
#

What labs?

visual birch
solid otter
#

i think space weed existing and albrecht canonically doing it is pretty strange

wild wind
#

....the labs where the murmur are?

weak stratus
#

Oooooooh, those things

wild wind
#

Yeah, they're giant Warframes

visual birch
wild wind
#

made out of the Hex

weak stratus
#

Those giant humanoid things are Warframes?

solid otter
#

not exactly

wild wind
#

Yeah

weak stratus
solid otter
#

a bit more than a warframe, a bit less in a way

wild wind
#

Crossbred the Warframe Helminth strain with the Deimos Grey Strain of infestation

visual birch
#

The vessels are nothing close to warframes

weak stratus
solid otter
#

vessels are a hybrid of the grey strain and the helminth strain, but completely lack a human for its main body

weak stratus
#

See, that right there, I have no idea what you just said

wild wind
#

The Vessel in the Sanctum Anatomica is made from Arthur's DNA

weak stratus
#

The heckith is the grey strain?

wild wind
#

Which is why it's connected to him

visual birch
wild wind
night grail
solid otter
#

they also do not seem to be prone to infestation madness, probably due to the. lack of brain

weak stratus
#

Aaaah, okay

rain otter
# weak stratus All of the above

Okay quick and dirty is the Zariman was a ship that tried to Do one big void jump to tau ajd failed. In that failure it was stuck in the Void and all the parents went crazy. This is where the tenno gets their powers. Later the ship comes our of the Void.

weak stratus
wild wind
#

It makes things BIG and also does weird things like fight itself

wild wind
solid otter
weak stratus
#

I see I see

rain otter
visual birch
wild wind
#

Personally I suspect it's because the Infestation is preparing to fight The Man in the Wall's giant form

#

(The infestation is bullshit and can see across spacetime)

#

So it's responding to evolutionary pressure before it happens

weak stratus
visual birch
solid otter
#

Loid suggested the hybridisation between the two strains, from memory. the vessels are also somewhat connected to the protos!

wild wind
rain otter
visual birch
weak stratus
#

Duviri is essentially a dream of the Operator, brought to fruition by Wally, then erased by eternalism, which in turn binded the Drifter to us?

rain otter
#

No?

solid otter
#

ehhh not exactly

wild wind
#

no

rain otter
#

Let me I AM typing.

#

I am can explain it better if you give me a sec and we don't all give pieces.

visual birch
#

3 way Type clash

wild wind
#

to make a long story very short, when Wally screwed over the Drifter, they made a safe space for themself

#

That's the short version

rain otter
#

Im typing don't confuse them

#

Wait a second.

solid otter
#

so theres this thing called conceptual embodiment [CE]. tldr strong emotions while in the void can cause things to manifest from the void.

so, while we were in the void, after wally split the timeline and refused to help us, we got scared. and wished for a safe space. The Tales Of Duviri is a book written by Euleria [Mother!] Entrati, and due to our strong emotions, we triggered CE to activate, manifesting Duviri as a real place based on the tales and characters. theres a bit more but yk

rain otter
#

This is what I said not to do

#

Wait a second I'm still typing.

solid otter
#

and is it wrong? im not sure why you think you can explain it better lol

rain otter
#

No but I asked nicely for you to wait.

visual birch
#

Quick Vinny while their cursed typing is burnt out

rain otter
#

@weak stratus okay so. You know how I said that the Zariman comes out of the Void? Well that happens cus of like a deal with wally to "save everyone." The tenno when that deal gets made and that's when they split into "the Zariman and tenno that get out of the void"-operator and the "one that's stuck in the Zariman in the Void."-Drifter duviri happens cuz the Drifter is alone in the ship in the Void is reading a book about how to control your emotions but has so many uncontrolled emotions the Drifter makes the book real cuz the Void can make very strong emotions real. The Drifter is trapped in the Void from original Zariman until new war.

solid otter
#

oh. outdated info. new lines suggest mother actually wasn't aware of CE BenThumbs

visual birch
#

Not the og zariman

rain otter
#

Cuz she literally makes it for that.

visual birch
solid otter
#

uh. source? cuz i got one for mine

rain otter
#

Do you?

visual birch
#

Mother gives a lesson on CE in tnw

solid otter
#

she acts shocked at the idea of things being manifested from the void, upset that the void did not behave how she expected, like she knew it to

#

allow me to get the line

weak stratus
#

Okay, so that timeline split is the same thing you both mentioned, right? We were on the Zaramin, got trapped there, made a deal with Wally, he intentionally split the timeline for some reason, and then the rest of the stuff happened?

wild wind
#

not intentionally, no

#

You know multiverse theory?

weak stratus
wild wind
#

No, actual multiverse theory

#

Though that too

rain otter
wild wind
#

Whenever you make a choice it creates two universes, one where you made one choice and one where you made the other choice

solid otter
# rain otter

(scoffs) "I saw the Void as a phenomenon to be treated scientifically! Now I am told my father unleashed a monster, and my book of children's stories has come to life?"

rain otter
#

HE IMPLIES

wild wind
#

So Wally making a deal and keeping it means that there's a universe where he makes a deal and doesn't keep it

solid otter
#

thats. albrecht's interpretation lol

weak stratus
#

Oh... I thought eternalism was essentially Warframe's version of multiverse theory/the cause of mutiverse theory in Warframe

wild wind
#

Warframe Eternalism is one step past that

#

they actually misnamed it, in the real world eternalism is something else

solid otter
#

sure it could be a form of book to help control emotions, but i am reluctant to say it was done explicitly for void travel

wild wind
#

The theory they call eternalism in Warframe is "concretism" IRL

rain otter
#

@weak stratus @wild wind okay so to you two. Wally in the like Duviri Albretch event thing. Wally as the smoker woman is like "2 of the same person raised in different circumstances don't you understand yet?" Like it was intentional.

solid otter
#

given. she is upset? shocked? that CE happened

wild wind
visual birch
rain otter
wild wind
#

Operator and Drifter were "raised" in the same circumstances

rain otter
#

Yes

wild wind
#

Because they were the same person until the split

rain otter
#

Well nooo.

wild wind
#

And they were not raised after that

rain otter
#

Cuz like

#

The other things in the Zariman we know happened

#

Cuz the indifference wanted to see what would happen.

#

Like the adults going crazy.

weak stratus
#

The heck is the indifference?

rain otter
#

Wally

solid otter
weak stratus
#

Ah

rain otter
#

Man in the wall.

weak stratus
#

I see I see

wild wind
#

@rain otter you misquoted the quote

#

Two identical souls raised in such different environments

#

Not same person

rain otter
#

@weak stratus oh btw all the holdfastes didn't immediately go insane cuz none of them had kids.

wild wind
#

but "people who are similar"

rain otter
weak stratus
#

Holdfastes?

rain otter
#

Like it really does.

rain otter
weak stratus
#

Ah, alright

rain otter
#

They didn't immediately go crazy like all the adults with kids.

solid otter
rain otter
solid otter
#

so. mother did not know of CE, nor was she aware of wally's existence, as far as we know.

rain otter
#

He made all the adults with kids go crazy just to see what happened.

rain otter
weak stratus
#

Am I spelling it wrong?? Why is, "alright" suddenly not right?

rain otter
#

Alright

#

No?

weak stratus
#

That should be right

wild wind
#

It actually is incorrect

#

It's two words, "all right"

solid otter
wild wind
#

My English degree is toilet paper but I learned that much

#

Anyway, the Archarbor puzzles seem to indicate that the Duviri Paradox book was a way to teach emotional self-control

solid otter
#

Albrecht also told noone of it, given his daughter was kept in the dark for many things, i can see this being one

weak stratus
wild wind
#

In time, your life experiences will make you into a complete person, a worthy servant of the Orokin Empire. But they can only do this if you accept them, incorporating them into your psyche. To divide parts of yourself off is to be a nation at war with itself.” —Datum Aggregator
#

So, in-universe quote given the mention of the Orokin Empire

solid otter
weak stratus
#

Okay, I need to take a step back and ask, who the heck is Albertch? Like I know what he looks like and such and what he did in 1999, but like, WHO is he and why is he doing what he's doing?

solid otter
#

father of void tech.

wild wind
#

Euleria's not surprised about conceptual embodiment, she's surprised Duviri was conceptually embodied

solid otter
#

responsible for getting wally's finger cut off

wild wind
#

(scoffs) "I saw the Void as a phenomenon to be treated scientifically! Now I am told my father unleashed a monster, and my book of children's stories has come to life?"

weak stratus
wild wind
#

Actually there's an easy way to do this

#

@weak stratus are you in game right now?

solid otter
wild wind
#

Go visit Necraloid in the Sanctum Anatomica

visual birch
weak stratus
#

I am not in fact. To be honest, I should probably be heading to bed, since I have work in the morning, but I really like learning about the lore of video games

solid otter
visual birch
wild wind
solid otter
#

the ones in TNW, yeah but the ones in duviri aint

weak stratus
wild wind
#

It's supposed to produce discreet effects, like the Belric/Rania tunnel

solid otter
visual birch
# solid otter the ones in TNW, yeah but the ones in duviri aint

Considering the nature of the tablets and what we have in new war along with duviri being narrated by her its safe to assume she does. Also she's there when wally and albrecht happen I think. Like theres no way she knows eternalism and not CE when even roathe knows it

solid otter
#

ruins being the isovaults

inner galleon
#

just finished the old peace guys

wild wind
#

Manifesting a book of stories (and a kitbashed action figure) into a continent-sized kingdom with living people, flying kaithes, and dragons is NOT a discrete effect

inner galleon
#

IT WAS PEAK

wild wind
inner galleon
wild wind
weak stratus
#

Okay, I'm told that I should hate him, but I don't remember everything he did to make us hate him

solid otter
#

its one of her first lines

#

its what made her think her dad was still alive

weak stratus
wild wind
inner galleon
#

i mean from what i understand ballas used the tennos to turn against sentients? or am i dead wrong

solid otter
#

hes an abuser.

#

we do not hate him enough.

wild wind
#

Oh and he broke the Peace out of jealousy that mom liked us

inner galleon
wild wind
#

And also conquered and enslaved the entire Origin System before trying to eat the sun to void jump to Tau

weak stratus
wild wind
#

Lotus

#

Well, Natah

solid otter
#

ballas, cuz idk brother sucks

visual birch
#

Ballas is bad yeah but like im not gonna hate on him or anything. I like his character in what he does for the story. Idk if yall just memeing or if yall genuinely hate ballas

solid otter
#

i hate him as a person

inner galleon
#

yes

weak stratus
solid otter
#

his character is good

wild wind
#

After the Zariman, the kids were half insane and feral

solid otter
#

he is a vile person.

weak stratus
wild wind
#

no

weak stratus
#

Or wait, is lotus Natah?

solid otter
#

mhm

wild wind
#

A scientist named Margulis started helping the kids, but her boyfriend got platinum mad about it

inner galleon
visual birch
wild wind
#

He got SO mad that he had her executed

inner galleon
#

isnt lotus margulis and natah the same person?

wild wind
#

This is the important part

fading current
visual birch
weak stratus
wild wind
#

Ballas decided that the entire Orokin Empire was to blame for his girlfriend's death, despite him being the reason she died (literally all he had to do was say "no" and she lived)

solid otter
wild wind
#

So he went to the Sentients and came up with a plan to kill the Orokin

solid otter
#

The game presents it as that, but roathe, as much as I hate him, does imply that ballas was under pressure for it

#

And. It clearly wasn't just him who wanted it

#

An execution requires all members of the 7 to agree

wild wind
#

he never cared for that kind of pressure before

solid otter
#

And you know that how

wild wind
#

It's on him, he doesn't get an excuse

solid otter
#

No, i aint excusing it

wild wind
#

Look at every other way he abused his privileges

solid otter
#

Its just what seems to have happened

wild wind
#

Why the hell are you caping for him over this

solid otter
#

Not when it requires all of the 7 to agree.

wild wind
#

So he says no, what are they going to do, kill her anyway?

#

Nahhhhhhhh I don't buy it

weak stratus
visual birch
#

The more I remember it the funnier it is in apostasy prologue that ballas just shows up and steals space mom 2.0. We never see him before that lol

solid otter
#

Unless ballas managed to intimidate the rest of the 7 into getting her executed, they too wanted her dead.

wild wind
fading current
solid otter
#

You also forget that she took the blame for the tenno acting out

inner galleon
#

im legit farming for uriel after this

#

the badass frame

weak stratus
#

Okay, so what the heck is going on with the Natah, Lotus, and Margolis stuff?

visual birch
wild wind
#

Anyway, @inner galleon @weak stratus Ballas had the Sentients make a "mimic", a Sentient that could take human form. This was Natah. He took Natah and programmed Margulis's memories into her, and called the fusion of Natah and Margulis "the Lotus".

solid otter
weak stratus
#

Aaaaaah, okay

solid otter
visual birch
wild wind
#

The plan was for the Lotus to pretend to destroy the Sentients, then have the Tenno kill the Orokin. Then she'd put them to sleep.

Then after that, she was supposed to kill every last one of them.

solid otter
#

... no it. Was from us. Who triggered that breach.

wild wind
#

She didn't do the last part which screwed over everyone's plans.

weak stratus
#

So could just anyone be turned into a Warframe, or did it have to be a specific group of people, also, who the heck were the Tau again?

wild wind
#

Tau Ceti

#

An actual star system

solid otter
#

No, dont name the actual system, its not actually Tau Ceti

visual birch
#

Actually weird thinking about the fact lotus is younger than the tenno

solid otter
#

Tau ceti for one isnt a binary star system

wild wind
#

The Orokin wanted to go to other solar systems, but didn't want to take the trip

#

So they sent a bunch of robots to build the solar rail and do the terraforming

visual birch
wild wind
#

Those robots were the Sentients

visual birch
solid otter
weak stratus
#

(NO, the Dax, that's who I was thinking of)

solid otter
#

You know

Committing treason 😭

visual birch
solid otter
#

Oh good lord

weak stratus
#

Who the heck are the dax?

wild wind
#

But like, super soldier versions

solid otter
weak stratus
#

Ah, okay. And umbra was one?

wild wind
#

Yep

solid otter
#

Yes, so was dagath!

visual birch
#

I shall consult the transcripts

wild wind
#

A lot of Warframes were originally Dax soldiers

solid otter
#

Mm, we only have.. 2 confirmed dax soldiers

weak stratus
#

I see I see, makes sense since they seem pretty strong

solid otter
#

2? I think its 2

wild wind
#

The idea was to combine Dax training with infested regeneration and Grineer reproducability

solid otter
#

Wh

weak stratus
#

How many frames did they make? Do we know? If not, do you think we'll ever find out?

solid otter
#

Where are you pulling that from

wild wind
#

All of the original anti-sentient plans

wild wind
#

Total Warframes? Hundreds of thousands, probably.

solid otter
#

I will also say that warframes were not produced to the scale of Dax or Grineer

weak stratus
#

Oh dang, so DE isn't stopping anytime soon then, huh (Thankfully!)

wild wind
#

The idea is that we've only recovered a fraction of the original models

#

And there were some that never made it into full production

#

They would build Warframes and just decide they weren't good enough

weak stratus
wild wind
#

That's not a thing as far as we know

visual birch
#

@solid otter sonion the treason is def for the world seeders not the academy that was already up in flames no one would even know the tenno attacked it if all the grineer there died

solid otter
#

Nah but Albrecht does have a weird amount of warframe blueprints

weak stratus
wild wind
#

It's like luxury cars, basically

solid otter
flat tree
wild wind
#

Some people have a lambo. Others have a lambo with leather seats

visual birch
solid otter
#

Some have a shit overengineered euro car

weak stratus
wild wind
#

Primes were like the deluxe model of an already top of the line weapon system

solid otter
visual birch
wild wind
#

I stg the gif options are purging the fun Warframe ones every day

weak stratus
# flat tree Her?

(Okay, that made me literally laugh out loud. My friend and I were just pointing that out the other day)

visual birch
#

If only I knew how to send it here

solid otter
#

I really should work on transcripting more of doom

#

Gotta help the lost souls or whatever

visual birch
#

DO NOT DENY ME MY WIN

solid otter
#

What? The quote?

visual birch
#

Yes

solid otter
#

... copy and paste.

visual birch
#

Ugh

weak stratus
solid otter
#

Genuinely how else did you think i did it 😭

#

Hand typed the damn thing?

solid otter
#

I like formatting it nicely

visual birch
solid otter
#

Using >**

visual birch
#

Anyways got u beat

visual birch
# solid otter Using >**

Apex Stentor: "Attention. A rogue Tenno operative and Sentient cohort are suspected of sabotage. They are to be brought in alive or dead."
This is before the academy

weak stratus
#

Could you imagine though, seeing Gauss or Uriel and thinking, "Man I can't wait to become a cool looking frame!" only to get turned into a friggin shroom?

visual birch
#

BOO YAH

solid otter
weak stratus
visual birch
#

Anyways u should replay old peace

#

Get mogged

solid otter
#

Ive actually run out of replay motivation lol

visual birch
weak stratus
solid otter
#

I aint replaying shit if they aint coming up on my flower

weak stratus
visual birch
solid otter
visual birch
wild wind
#

It's either that or Toad from Mario

visual birch
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Like no duh she took the blame for what happened in old peace what else she gonna take the blame for

flat tree
solid otter
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Ive. Said it before you sent that

flat tree
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Average worm and thomas interaction BombaPoint

solid otter
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Like. 10 minutes prior

weak stratus
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(This is a joke, please don't /ban me)

visual birch
# solid otter Like. 10 minutes prior

Someone clip this guy saying that margulis took the blame for operator acting the academy when she took the blame for the world seeder being activated

solid otter
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Good lord

visual birch
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Bro just cant say I was right smh

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Biggest switch up of history