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azure solar
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2 always i thought

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and you dont neccisarily need her 4 its just fun

zenith jacinth
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and literally what makes her a top tier frame

slate garnet
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any good inf ammo wep ? like, other than nataruk of course since it's already pretty good

zenith jacinth
solid otter
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Easier to manage

slate garnet
zenith jacinth
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tbh just any gun that's not aoe, DE decided to nerf aoe by just making the ammo management horrid

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(aoe alt fires not included because ??)

slate garnet
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my friend recommended me to get the burston prime

zenith jacinth
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whenever I think "hey why don't I use acceltra more" I am quickly reminded why I don't use acceltra moreDagathLUL

slate garnet
zenith jacinth
azure solar
slate garnet
zenith jacinth
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ye

azure solar
slate garnet
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i'll probably need to start working towards that then

azure solar
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makes sense tho

zenith jacinth
azure solar
slate garnet
zenith jacinth
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not really

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it's like, discount infinite

warm scarab
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That apparently

azure solar
zenith jacinth
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it regenerates ammo when shooting enemies affected by the alt fire

azure solar
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WHEN WERE YOU GONNA TELL ME THERES A CODA BUBONICO

warm scarab
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Uhhh

zenith jacinth
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they added new weapons for all 3 adversaries

azure solar
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looks up happy

floral hawk
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šŸ‘€ lasting covenant evade harrow never disappoints. we got aimlabs at home

azure solar
azure solar
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i see a kuva gouhl saw

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happy bunny noises

thick jolt
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A.k.a cube launcher and laser pointer combo

weak stratus
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What mission is the best for grinding flax on the zaramin?

zenith jacinth
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"flax"?

distant stirrup
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hmm...

do we know when Mesa Heirloom comes out?

is it going to be alongside Jade Shadows: Constellations or?

azure solar
floral hawk
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flaxseed DagathLUL

azure solar
distant stirrup
zenith jacinth
wild wind
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Heirlooms are every six months so far, and Vauban Heirloom came out in Jan/Feb

floral hawk
zenith jacinth
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yea

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ragdolls are great

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hits enemy from below with bow
enemy:

analog drift
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it's gonna be so long till we get one for follie though...

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i already want her prime variant

zenith jacinth
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heirlooms don't go from oldest to newest, it's just kinda whichever frame DE wants

analog drift
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quickly, we must subject DE to subliminal messaging and influence their minds to convince them to create a follie heirloom

analog drift
azure solar
analog drift
azure solar
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i know of 2 alrready

analog drift
azure solar
analog drift
thick jolt
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Ember heirloom was like that, and i think at least some of the others if not all the post ember ones

zenith jacinth
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yea although that's not for heirlooms so far

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oh, rly

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thought it was all designed by that one person

thick jolt
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Yeah i am sure for ember, but the others i cant quite remember

balmy storm
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Vauban was fan designed too

zenith jacinth
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ic

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I'm an idiot

thick jolt
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When they reveal the concept they usually quickly mention if it was fan made

balmy storm
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I hope they use that dagath heirloom design
It was amazing

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Fan made ofc but
Yknow
They can buy it

thick jolt
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Mesa i think was comissioned (as is their usual relationship with liger)

wild wind
balmy storm
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Mhm Mesa is a liger

zenith jacinth
wild wind
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The last batch of olds will probably be the new Mag+Frost heirlooms they've mentioned they're planning

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After that it'll be Warframes whose Prime designs didn't land for whatever reason

balmy storm
wild wind
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Not a lawyer but I think the legality is more negotiable than they're claiming, but they wisely don't want to cause a backlash from players who paid on the basis of the exclusivity period

balmy storm
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I have no idea why they thought making those fomo was a good idea
Y’all did Excal Prime and saw what happened after that
And while yes he’s a prime he’s practically just a skin

wild wind
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"it sounded like a good idea at the time"

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But yeah it was dumb

balmy storm
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Made the exact same mistake lol

wild wind
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Well, Excalibur Prime wasn't a mistake, he funded the game

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That I completely understand

balmy storm
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I’m glad they silently put to bed the heirloom system they had planned after where they were going to be in rotation

wild wind
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Limited time heirlooms is bonkers though

thick jolt
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Steve really got scared after the mag and frost stuff and made soulframe founders almost entirely non exclusive

balmy storm
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It is a mistake to try and do that again though

wild wind
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Especially since they introduced protoframes

thick jolt
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Lol

zenith jacinth
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?

balmy storm
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Paragon has a sparrow called sparragon with a tiny paragon

potent crown
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Is Albrecht Entrati a Tumblr Sexyman

wild wind
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lol that reminds me I need to buy the Paragon bundle

balmy storm
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Also I’m assuming the paragon color palette will be exclusive :/
we know the sword isn’t though

wild wind
thick jolt
wild wind
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He's just older than 50

balmy storm
zenith jacinth
potent crown
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Is Wally a Tumblr Sexyman

balmy storm
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No

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Roathe is
He’s like the onceler but worse

wild wind
balmy storm
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Roathe is an artificially made tumblr sexyman
Dude was grown in a lab

wild wind
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Because I absolutely would

potent crown
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Roathe is conventionally attractive though (more so than Albrecht given he's not old looking)

balmy storm
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I know I ain’t using my founder flower til they either fix the system or like
A few years after launch lol

zenith jacinth
wild wind
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Tumblr sexyman is like, Kahl or Veso or the Ostrons/Fortuna squad minus Little Duck

zenith jacinth
balmy storm
zenith jacinth
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I thought ppl would get to put the flowers somewhere in the world, but no

balmy storm
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I’d even be fine with one garden that shifts and changes and adapts to who’s there

wild wind
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It's basically a Kickstarter thing

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Out of the way area where you can have a tiny symbolic thing

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It's not a bad idea but yeah something more dynamic would be cooler

solid otter
balmy storm
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I don’t want to plant my flower cause it’ll be in garden 572
Thus nobody will see it
Including me

wild wind
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Like if your friends are founders you should see statues of their current loadout and their personal flowers

balmy storm
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Also love how they made that flower for those who got bugged so they can have day 1
But only those who got bugged
Which just made a new exclusive item

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It was a panic fix that was just a bad idea

wild wind
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Along with a smattering of people you played with recently and people online

potent crown
wild wind
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Basically like the xenoflora blessings in Old Peace

balmy storm
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Yesss

wild wind
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Which I think is a rather elegant system

solid otter
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Hes just the uncomfortable side of morally grey

balmy storm
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I doubt they’ll change the garden tbh but y’never know

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I have
Far less faith with the old guard

potent crown
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Like I don't think conventionally attractive villain really fall under Tumblr Sexyman

balmy storm
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Some of the gameplay choices they’ve made are. Baffling

solid otter
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A lot of folk who want a morally grey character, don't want their character to actually do bad things

potent crown
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Which is more Roathe's thing

thick jolt
wild wind
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Albrecht has a fashion sense, he's disqualified on that basis

balmy storm
azure solar
wild wind
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Roathe is a villain and hot, he's out for that reason

solid otter
balmy storm
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It feels like they both do and don’t know what they’re doing with the game

solid otter
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Sans can get it tho

wild wind
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Again, Kahl and the open world syndicates

balmy storm
solid otter
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LMFAO

thick jolt
wild wind
solid otter
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Albrecht core

wild wind
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They have ideas, and most of them don't work

potent crown
solid otter
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They're in the Albrecht phase

azure solar
balmy storm
potent crown
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But like Kahl is otherwise classically heroic

solid otter
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YOU KNOW WHO WOULD BE ONE

thick jolt
solid otter
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TYL. TYL REGOR

potent crown
balmy storm
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I think they’ll be doing a damage type rework since the new staff says it’s voltaic but
Uh
It isn’t

zenith jacinth
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we've never seen tyl without a mask

solid otter
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For a while tumblr sexymen were just skinny twinks and ive had enough

thick jolt
balmy storm
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Iirc other weapons have inconsistencies like this, I know some weapons got changed from one virtue to another but haven’t been changed back with the recent update, etc etc

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I know it’s a pre alpha but man

balmy storm
wild wind
balmy storm
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They did Gyre dirty with her Prime

thick jolt
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Where's christmas tree gyre prime

wild wind
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Luckily she has a voidshell

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I did the same thing with Voruna

balmy storm
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I know someone who’s a huge gyre fan
I feel so had for them

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Voruna’s prime is good at least

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Gyre got a good deluxe
Voruna got a terrible feluxe
Gyre got a terrible prime
Voruna got a good prime

potent crown
solid otter
potent crown
zenith jacinth
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I'm both glad and disappointed that all my favorites have primes and deluxes alreadyBaro

balmy storm
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Wait
No
Guys

solid otter
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Oh yeah do we know if the V is supposed to be a Vee or. 5?

balmy storm
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Tyl Regor is the tumblr sexyman

solid otter
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I SAID THAT BEFORE

solid otter
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Im so normal over Tyl

balmy storm
solid otter
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Someone gotta hold me back i want to bite him

zenith jacinth
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fite him

solid otter
balmy storm
potent crown
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Is that related to tubgirl

balmy storm
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She loved tyl

solid otter
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Ah so im the reincarnation of her

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Sick

wild wind
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Man I love Oraxia 's armor set

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Something about the arm scythes is just cool

balmy storm
azure solar
balmy storm
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I may be wrong it’s been a while and she left afaik

azure solar
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oh...

azure solar
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sadge- kinda understand yall liking tyl

balmy storm
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You can prob find her on YouTube

azure solar
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he just wanted healthy grineer- that could teleport

balmy storm
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Tyl as an ally would have been cool

azure solar
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but tenno was like nonono cant have that

balmy storm
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For a very good reason lol

azure solar
balmy storm
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Clonerot and us keep them in check
No clonerot and that’s gonna be harder for us on our already full plate that has only gotten fuller

azure solar
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MOM THE VOID IS TRYNA GROW WEIRD ARMS AND SH-

solid otter
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And my braces would murder me

azure solar
solid otter
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Looking at it

balmy storm
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Yes the Tenno have a messed up life

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I know you mean the grineer lol

azure solar
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WALLY GET OUT OF MY MINDHOLE IM TRYNA RIZZ THE WARFRAME PEOPLE

balmy storm
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Warframe is a very morally grey game
While yes the minority of good grineer would have benefitted from the cure we can’t allow the majority to get their hands on it

balmy storm
zenith jacinth
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reminder that warframe would fit comfortably in the grimdark classification

azure solar
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its cozymaxxing

balmy storm
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Cozymaxxing in the grindark genre

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The blanket is made of human flesh and the chocolate is whispering eldritch secrets

analog drift
balmy storm
balmy storm
zenith jacinth
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fog is a mesa main

balmy storm
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:D

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I may poke them on their build later

azure solar
analog drift
azure solar
analog drift
weak stratus
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🄹

zenith jacinth
weak stratus
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Aaaah, alright. Thank you!

balmy storm
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Flax plasm

flat tree
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Why did the triad suddenly appear after recalling Perrita

Were they waiting or something?

balmy storm
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Roathe had finished his portal by then ig

thick jolt
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Loid asking for help was funny

solid otter
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Loid recovered quick enough. Decided to loom over roathe

thick jolt
solid otter
thick jolt
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Yup

balmy storm
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@solid otter do you have the bottom surgery neci viktor meme HappyHyekka

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Or wait
It was top surgery

solid otter
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Top, but lemme find it

solid otter
cobalt hamlet
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who's the second NB than flare

solid otter
solid otter
cobalt hamlet
solid otter
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???

cobalt hamlet
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I guess meme .jpg

solid otter
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They. Are

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They're literally multiple people fused into one body

cobalt hamlet
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Yeah but I don't have to be happy about it

solid otter
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???

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Do you. Know what game you're playing

cobalt hamlet
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Candy Crush rn why

solid otter
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So like

solid otter
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Why do you not like the idea of Xaku being enby

cobalt hamlet
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Because its only a technically and I was hoping for something else I thought that was obvious with my jests

celest hollow
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-# that was an ill timed gif

cobalt hamlet
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no it was hilarious thanks

flat tree
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Well
They are 3 frames mashed into one

solid otter
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Shout hunhow hes so me

cobalt hamlet
celest hollow
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-# maybe not a literal uterus but for this discussion, sure

dense acorn
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so we got a singular they (flare) and a plural they (xaku)
hunhow being an adaptive machine and ticker having a rental body...

solid otter
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Nono, ticker is genuinely just trans

celest hollow
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not rental more like Ticker is in their lovers body i forget their story

solid otter
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Where is it mm

dense acorn
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but still a solaris -
aren't all their bodies technically "not theirs"?
what with all those debts?

celest hollow
solid otter
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Balls

celest hollow
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they just yk ship of theseused it

solid otter
celest hollow
dense acorn
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i still wonder how many of the corpus board knows about the solaris to begin with...

cobalt hamlet
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I would doubt a literal uterus in the human sense and just something that approximates one but I get the idea

solid otter
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Still waiting for true trans masc rep šŸ’” hunhow ultimately doesn't count cus he. Isnt human

celest hollow
solid otter
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Drusus got his body shelved actually

dense acorn
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like even if they don't have a problem with the whole debt slavery thing,but i'd bet several would have issue with the efficiency of using people over proxies

dense acorn
celest hollow
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didnt he trade his body to save the leverian at some point

solid otter
cobalt hamlet
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I think there is something to the idea of a frame that was trans in life and the frame they become reflects their chosen gender

solid otter
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His body is just

Yonked

celest hollow
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Parvos has his body i think

solid otter
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Flare is Temple. Was the first Temple

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All the other protos do probably die tho

celest hollow
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Temple and the Rippers 🤘

cobalt hamlet
solid otter
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Mm

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I can get behind that yeah

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Unfortunately I do not think the orokin would be so kind

dense acorn
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i know parvos has the leverian for dante and some other stuff,but if i recall the details with cephelons correctly there probably wouldn't be a body leftover

cobalt hamlet
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It would have to be an Albrecht creation, I think

solid otter
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Ballas specifically. He does engineer the warframes to be a specific fit

solid otter
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Even then, unless its a new frame, it'll form in the set specification unless you manage to warp it. Somehow???

cobalt hamlet
cosmic prawn
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I think from a design perspective, the problem is that there's no difference between a trans-masc Warframe and one that's cis-masc. Which is probably why they have yet to do any real trans stuff for a Warframe

solid otter
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Mmhm

cobalt hamlet
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In fact I think its better that way

solid otter
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I too want a trans masc but I'd prefer it to be an NPC over a warframe

cosmic prawn
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We don't usually know any lore about the original Warframes. That's better left to NPCs or protoframes at a stretch.

dense acorn
cobalt hamlet
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Cyte-09 existed without Albrecht it was just lost and he found it, to my understanding

cosmic prawn
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Cyte's not an Albrecht design though

solid otter
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Albrecht hoarded shit

Just so happened to have Cyte-09

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-# and i do mean Albrecht hoarded, his netracells are full of random shit

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-# Sometimes super sentimental other times its.

-# A drip coffee machine

dense acorn
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i was thinking more that quincy may have basically became a brand new frame that due to time/void shinnanigans,ended up being the source of the cyte-09 frame now

cosmic prawn
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Making Albrecht a canon hoarder via Netracells is peak DE environmental storytelling

cobalt hamlet
solid otter
cobalt hamlet
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I still have hope that Flare ends up priming themself too

solid otter
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Albrecht also has his Daughter's book in there and it makes me violent

cobalt hamlet
solid otter
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Wally set his own mask on fire to scare the shit out of Albrecht 😭

cobalt hamlet
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"MY BOOKS"

solid otter
celest hollow
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Flare admist the Orokin during the slaughter, strumming Lizzie as they melt orokin gold, casting themself in ill-gotten gains

solid otter
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Her token and her book, which is based on the stories. He'd tell Euleria when she was a kid

cobalt hamlet
celest hollow
solid otter
cobalt hamlet
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I would also accept Lavos coming in and turning Flare prime

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idk how they'd do it but im on board

dense acorn
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actually now i'm curious about something for my own goofy writing sake
how likely would it be that the corpus manufacture their own iterations of something like the necramechs?
||i ask primarily because i'm weird in that since everything i do in warframe is in some way corpus related,i use this exact explanation for using items clearly not of corpus make||

solid otter
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Mm. There is a possibility

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Necramechs are an entrati exclusive design yes, but they are still orokin. Old broken ones in the surface of deimos could've been salvaged

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They are exceptionally good at resisting sentient orphix fields

celest hollow
solid otter
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I can see why the corpus, Alad V specifically would be interested in a necramech

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Also don't worry, I am the same when it comes to the entrati family lol

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You are among friends

Hopefully

dense acorn
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good good -
i even have it set that my necramechs visually look like they're made from corpus materials as well
plus the bruntspar skin/cryptonaut helmet to further cement a more corpus-like design
...e.. even if i keep tweaking a couple colors slightly because i'm indecisive

solid otter
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Don't worry, the vast majority of my wf fashions are vaguely the entrati theme of brown, golds, black and red/blues/whites on emissives

celest hollow
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eh more like Corpses instead of corpus

solid otter
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Hehah

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I

Have the Albrecht shrine

celest hollow
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im enjoying a black and copper look on my frames

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i have my vauban prime a trenchcoat with his base skin

solid otter
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Nodders

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OH MY GOD I CAN FINALLT DO THE FUN COPPER OXIDISED THING

dense acorn
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i also have to say i like the different "voices" the three necramech skins have
(karnolyth skin doesn't have a unique one sadly)

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and honestly it's a fantastic mixture
usually i'm not a fan of base orokin aesthetics from like the towers and such. but entrati's works all hit different - and the tech is what i look to if i want a "corpus fabricated variant" since parvos is already looking at and taking some entrati stuffs

solid otter
solid otter
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But yes, Parvos, Alad V

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And yeah the necramechs are cute

dense acorn
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oh yeah
that's part of the reason i slapped the cryptonaut helm on my mech - hiding the skull away so it's "not there". even if it bugs me when using voidrig sometimes

solid otter
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I love how father made bonewidow based on Mother. Relationship goals

dense acorn
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i'd kill for another necramech type tho,,
i think father should bang out another one -
or someone

celest hollow
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Id love if Father just recreates the Titanfall lineup

solid otter
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He did make the necramechs in the labs too

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The quadruped ones are actually apart of the Tombjockey series, the one that were obliterated by the ropalpalpalpalpalyst

dense acorn
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i mean ones we can pilot..

solid otter
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Mm, unfortunately. The majority of the fanbase hate them

dense acorn
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SadOrdis meanwhile they're one of my favorite things.. .

night grail
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I hate leveling them

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And formaing them to level them again

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And again and again and again and again

dense acorn
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that might be a contributor as to why i like them
i uh.. .
haven't bothered to really forma mine all that much - i haven't needed to
b u t seeing as i'm gonna try to finally drive towards MR30 that's probably gonna change

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plus the tenet weapons (which i already don't mind) and collecting the ones i want
...and probably the ones i don't want in favor of more affinity

night grail
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I mean. Im like the one guy in the descendia with a built voidrig so it paid off eventually ig

night grail
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I would go for archwings and weapons and companions if youve exhausted warframes

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Companions especially are pretty stacked with sentinels having 9k mastery due to their default weapon

dense acorn
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mods kill this guy -

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anyway
thankfully (or unfortunately) i've gotten rather stagnant when it comes to frames; i've only gotten like... a few. so i should have plenty to burn through
when it comes to companions i think i got all the sentinels (barring primes) and hounds,but haven't done much in way of kavats,kubrows,or the deimos creatures...
and i think i'm running short on weapons but i'd need to take another look

thick iron
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i guess i was just sitting on max drifter intrinsics lmfao

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i didn't even realize 😭

solid otter
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Lmao

thick iron
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i had like 1.5k intrinsic points or something

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]and i decided to see if i could max out my endurance from rank 8 and riding from rank 1

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(i could)

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i hate farming maw fangs bruh

tight pagoda
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All Helminth Oxide resources are such a pain tbh

solid otter
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Xaku BombaPoint BombaPoint BombaPoint

balmy storm
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They’re not nonbinary like how Temple is
They’re nonbinary because they quite literally do not fit into the binary, physically, mentally and emotionally

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Like quite literally they can not fit into the binary
Also in their old (but still canon as nothing contradicts it) description they’re described as ā€œneither he nor sheā€
Because they’re a composite

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Temple is they/them in terms of identity
Xaku is they/them because they’re a group and not an individual

balmy storm
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I need a new Xaku skin
Maybe
Murmur skin
Void angel skin
I’ll take anything ngl

solid otter
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Let qorvex get his deluxe too

balmy storm
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He do be overdue

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Move over Baruuk, you had your time

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Let the Entrati brothers reign

hearty pendant
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did they ever fix xaku's deluxe helmet being. sideways? on the prime

balmy storm
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It arguably looks really cool and fits their theming lol

hearty pendant
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would be cool to have it as an option, ik there are some people very against it

balmy storm
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Yessss

solid otter
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I do really like Dante's new deluxe

balmy storm
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I would love that!

balmy storm
solid otter
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I like the helmet, even if others don't

balmy storm
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My partner loves Dante so she’s happy :]

solid otter
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I get to make one eyed owl jokes and its awesome

balmy storm
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The helmet is a weird owl face with an eye and it’s awesome

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It’s a perfect reimagining of him

solid otter
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A spooky version..

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Mm, does Baruuk have a deluxe already?

balmy storm
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A somehow even more birdy wizardy version

balmy storm
solid otter
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Jade should get one, for Jade Shadows constellations

balmy storm
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That’d be nice but Dante is more deserving atm

solid otter
balmy storm
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Shame Baruuk’s skin got delayed

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Really wanna know the lore and name for that Baruuk skin

hearty pendant
solid otter
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Mm

balmy storm
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I kinda hope they do a void angel but
They have a lot of room with that

solid otter
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Wonder what they could even do

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Lean into the fire aspect of Seraphim.. fire skin..

balmy storm
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Oh!
What if Jade deluxe is a sentient what if!

solid otter
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!!

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It would be so awesome... it would be so cool..

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Like Limbo's... :?

balmy storm
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And Volt and Mesa

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Limbo’s is more
Unofficially one iirc

solid otter
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-# limbo needs a new deluxe lowkey his is fine but it's. Cluttered

balmy storm
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As it predates the actual what if sentient skins

balmy storm
solid otter
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Limbo heirloom..

balmy storm
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DE can honestly do sooo much

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Kinda wild that Baruuk got another skin before Oberon got another skin

solid otter
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Mm

balmy storm
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Especially with the Oberon rework

solid otter
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It sucks dawg šŸ’”

balmy storm
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Hopefully any of those can get something this year

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I would love a new trinity skin
More reasons to play her

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Other than she can be borderline immortal and ofc Lettie :]

tight pagoda
balmy storm
#

I would unironically play her more if we got that
My hand be damned
(Mashing alt fire hurts my hand)

thick iron
#

my alt fire is middle mouse button

balmy storm
#

I have it as a side button but I made the secondary input middle mouse again after literal years so
I’ll try it out again

thick iron
#

inaros my beloved

#

i'll have to do this stupid follie grind at some point won't i...

dense acorn
#

yes... yes you will

tight pagoda
#

You missed the best time to do it

balmy storm
#

Yeah you unfortunately did ):

#

Oh, does anyone know if the completed shadowgraph is there for everyone now or is it only for those that participated in the event?

#

I know you only get the inbox message if you participated

tight pagoda
night grail
#

Isnt that

#

That's a pose araki has used

#

I could NOT tell you which character and their stand he used but I know

tight pagoda
night grail
#

YES

#

I didnt look through the chapter covers is my mistake

#

I immediately went to giorno too

lethal vortex
chilly pine
#

we could use some skins for jade, sucks that tennogen skins dont get as much freedom with the model as the deluxe skins do

thick iron
#

jordas golem genuinely top 5 most boring bosses of all time

undone lodge
vale knoll
#

Too much Sin 😭

balmy storm
#

It’s just an old youtuber dude

#

Tube girl
Like tube men?

vale knoll
#

I don’t believe you

slate garnet
#

Tubegirl is an influencer who filmed herself dancing on public transportation and created the tubegirl trend where you, you guessed it, do the exact same thing she did

balmy storm
undone lodge
#

Their name is now Krenbot

balmy storm
#

Neat :D

vale knoll
#

I guess I have a right to be skeptical, the internet can be a treacherous place

uncut solar
#

"too much sin" it's warframe

solid otter
#

Xata nuke

vale knoll
#

That’s why I was reluctant to not search it up

uncut solar
#

That's what I also mean

tame canopy
#

Does bro knows of Ember Heirloom Prex cardDarvoSmug

solid otter
#

Does bro know of the things the protos say

warm scarab
#

even marie?

fringe pond
solid otter
fringe pond
#

Fire

solid otter
#

You just reminded me to do it lol

fringe pond
#

Those sigils are genuinely goated
Shoutout to Kickback for being moss

solid otter
#

Moss...

zenith jacinth
still trench
#

Happy space mom day guys!

still trench
#

Also, why is ordis there? XD

visual birch
thick jolt
#

I'd say yonta being there is weirder than ordis being there lol

warm scarab
#

skittergirl

thick jolt
#

That's her teenage fears and anxiety, dunno if that'd make yonta a mother

warm scarab
#

oh wait i misunderstood

also ordis honorary mom, down to the mood swings

soft pumice
#

Freeky ahh ballas being nude when he was first introduced (when the quest was fresh) is freeky

warm scarab
#

BALD

still trench
#

MY EYES!!!

#

Ahh the artist made another one recently (so sorry if I do not know his name)

cerulean kiln
#

You forgot an S

soft pumice
#

bro only has legs arms and a head

zenith jacinth
fringe pond
fringe pond
solid otter
fringe pond
#

God that volt looks immaculate

#

I have a mossy bronze volt of sorts

vale ledge
#

What was the purpose of Albrect travelling back in time to have Roathe converted?

solid otter
#

Albrecht never intended for roathe to be converted, he's smarter than that

vale ledge
solid otter
#

Albrecht has issues who knew 😭

#

Getting your skin blasted off does that to you

vale ledge
#

Ah yes, lemme gaslight a fella into this scheme I have and see if its theoretically possible for ME to be "redeemed"

solid otter
#

Oh, no roathe did actually do everything else though

#

He was offered it lol

#

Hes just pissed at Albrecht cuz he doesn't remember it

vale ledge
#

Y'know the more lore I get about Albrecht the more I gotta say, Tagfer's got a point

solid otter
#

As in. Malicious

#

What is your opinion of Albrecht, firstly

#

Secondly, how much do you actually know about him?

vale ledge
#

I'm up to date on all the lore tbh. Was just a tad confused about Roathe cuz I forgot what the kim messsages said

solid otter
#

I mean

#

Being up to date doesnt tell me anything

vale ledge
#

ah

#

finished every quest and KIM system

solid otter
#

Are you aware of his notes and the requiem logs?

vale ledge
#

yea

solid otter
#

Have you read them?

vale ledge
#

yea

#

but they're a smoke screen

solid otter
#

Wh

vale ledge
#

according to grandma that is

solid otter
#

What

vale ledge
#

once you reunite Loid with the fam, grandma says that

solid otter
#

According to grandma

The manipulative grandma

#

The grandmother who is particularly bitter

vale ledge
#

I mean fair but I'd argue she means for the best, unlike albrect who uses others for his own inscrutable gain. She aint perfect but at least she has it right

solid otter
#

That she decided that Albrecht didn't give up Kuva because...?

cerulean kiln
#

She literally tried to end Warframe early

solid otter
fringe pond
#

Albrect uses others because he’s trying to stop Wally

solid otter
#

Albrecht hasn't gained anything 😭

#

He's lost an incredible amount

fringe pond
#

Bro thinks Albrecht’s being selfish 😭

#

No bro he’s trying to stop the giant wall dude from turning us into minerals

solid otter
#

Do they they think he gained something from leaving his family 😭

#

Albrecht didn't want to do any of this, he did it at the very end of what he could have done at the time

#

It certainly wasn't his first choice

fringe pond
#

He’s still absolutely a bozo but he’s not intentionally a bozo

#

Really just a result of the situation he’s gotten himself into

solid otter
#

He is just a tad autistic about it

cerulean kiln
#

Bro started yapping about Albrecht being something he isn’t
Got called wrong then disappeared

#

I never get that

solid otter
#

Some folk don't like confrontation

cerulean kiln
#

If they don’t like criticism they shouldn’t post something publicly

vale ledge
#

Nah its good, just farming in WF

solid otter
#

Your profile photo looks like a messed up wheatly lmao

cerulean kiln
vale ledge
cerulean kiln
#

Fair

fringe pond
#

Dude went on an elevator ride and came back to us flaming him
Whoopsie

solid otter
#

Shit 😭

fringe pond
#

Yeah our bad man Toxin

night grail
solid otter
#

Well ideally you should finish your conversation before disappearing

fringe pond
#

It’s plausible they were already in game when they started yapping

vale ledge
vale ledge
slate garnet
#

is the new years kiss on the 31st or the 1st of january cause i want to rip my hair out at trying to do a quests

potent crown
#

Albrecht Entrati isn't trying to be an asshole. Albrecht Entrati is trying but failing at not being an asshole. That's kinda my read on the character

#

Which makes him much much better than, say Ballas, who is trying and succeeding at being an asshole

thick jolt
#

More like he is willing to make the sacrifices because he believes what he is facing necessitates it

#

And well he is kinda right
Wally is a humongous problem he needs to fix

potent crown
#

Honestly I'm considering basing a villain (anti-villain?) in my tabletop game on him. I quite enjoy the archetype

thick jolt
#

The dust of petty lives

#

He doesnt enjoy it but is willing to make the sacrifice

potent crown
#

Someone that screwed up tremendously through accident and hubris, then tries their best to undo the damage and make things right, but has none of the emotional tools to not also make everyone hate them in the process

#

It's not even like a "redemption at the last moment" Darth Vader type thing, more like

#

The slow and thankless journey to fixing problems you made in the first place? That I find fairly compelling

#

And leaving a trail of pain in their wake despite genuinely meaning well

cerulean kiln
#

Ends justify the means

potent crown
#

It's not just that, it's the added nuance of guilt for being the one who started it in the first place and therefore feeling like you're the only one fit to fix it

#

That's the part that I personally find more compelling than the general "end justifies the means" type character

#

"it's my mistake to fix" feels a lot more powerful a motivation

solid otter
solid otter
#

A lot

undone lodge
#

A lot of people are into him as a villain type

solid otter
#

A lot of people

slate garnet
#

i cannot see that guy man

undone lodge
slate garnet
#

i'd rather be infected with the techrot than have ballas anywhere near me

undone lodge
#

And then some people just find him handsome

solid otter
#

He is handsome. So is Roathe

Id still violently kick their shit in

slate garnet
#

Roathe seems nicer than the guy

#

for the little bit ive talked to him

solid otter
#

Roathe is racist 😭

slate garnet
#

im still like talking to those protoframes

slate garnet
thin sinew
#

Doing the old peace quest i should have just that damn palanquin be destroyed maybe theres a secret ending

fringe pond
potent crown
#

Roathe is actually good looking though

#

Ball Ass has neither balls nor ass

#

I'd also argue that because Roathe was the victim in his own toxic relationship (hence attracting the "he's only mean because he's traumatized" people) whereas Ballas just straight up decided to be an abuser and never stopped

#

Roathe at least has some appeal going on

balmy storm
#

I mean Roathe is still a bad person and just because you’re a victim doesn’t excuse your awful actions, it explains them but doesn’t really excuse them

#

Even when he’s better he’s still terrible

#

If the question is ā€œcan the Orokin be forgivenā€ and we have to extrapolate that answer via Roathe then
My answer is no

#

I get it, he’s a product of his society, of being a chew toy for Nitokh, of everything he’s gone through
But what we go through serves to explain our actions and what we do next is what matter
And he’s still awful

echo basalt
#

just like vegita

lofty sierra
potent crown
# echo basalt he's the prime example of an "i can fix him"

The thing that kinda gets me is like...he has the same voice actor as Emet Selch and popular with people who liked Emet Selch because Rebb Ford likes Emet Selch, but in actuality he's not really that much like Emet Selch beyond some surface readings

#

I don't think he has any of the same appeal of Emet Selch and is best taken as his own character

#

The main thing Roathe is missing compare to Emet is that Emet was explicitly a good person once and the tragedy was him becoming evil in the process of his civilization's fall. And the protagonist used to he his friend before that civilization fell (and most people reincarnated and lost all memories and magical powers, which Emet seeks to reclaim)

#

But I see a lot of Roathe fans (mostly on Tumblr to be sure) kinda just translate Emet Selch traits to Roathe lol. It doesn't really apply

stoic nymph
#

You know
I never really messed with getting my rank up for the syndicates

#

Then I saw this things questing

naive verge
#

is it weird that I find Roathe to be the most reasonable character of the Devil's Triads?

#

Surprisingly

balmy storm
#

Reasonable in what way?

floral hawk
#

congratulations on the Dualism membership card, Literal Embodiment of The Devil

solid otter
#

Nearly drown him and act shocked that he's pissed

solid otter
solid otter
balmy storm
potent crown
#

so my initial impression is eh

solid otter
balmy storm
#

Roathe is well written enough as a character in the sense that I really feel like I'm talking to an Orokin
AKA he's insufferable and generally just awful to talk to

solid otter
#

Roathe is missed potential, that's what I think

balmy storm
#

he isn't well written in the "redemption" part

balmy storm
#

minus Lyon
his one sin is being stuck with Marie

solid otter
#

I just wish they gave us something more substantial

#

Oh Albrecht was a prick again who knew

balmy storm
#

everyone but the glazers

solid otter
#

Marie actually yeah

balmy storm
#

Marie: "Oh isn't he just the best and most wonderful person ever?"
Tagfer:

solid otter
#

Tagfer is gonna tweak out šŸ’”

solid otter
#

He. Kinda already is i think

balmy storm
solid otter
#

Tagfer darling keep off the weird dust

balmy storm
#

I get why he crashed out on her 100%
pure anger and hatred

#

doesn't excuse the bad parts ofc but like
he is in the right

solid otter
#

Xata

balmy storm
#

I wish Roathe could tell Mother about what Marie did and said tbh

solid otter
#

Him shitting on her for. Needing others to support her in her life was shit

balmy storm
#

I think that could make a problem that would solve a different problem

solid otter
#

But marie doing what she did was shit

balmy storm
solid otter
balmy storm
#

Marie is like
actually delusional during that part it's insane

balmy storm
solid otter
#

I. Do not want to witness a mother crash out

#

I think it would be genuinely very very scary

balmy storm
#

for Marie

#

and anyone who gets in the way

#

which
Operator may
Drifter might
Lyon would
Roathe watches
Idk what Loid would do

#

I think he'd be more likely to take Mother's side, but still vote against
probably murder

solid otter
#

Loid would try to at least calm her down

balmy storm
#

yeah

solid otter
#

He understands the crashout [hed be insulted too i think] but he ideally doesn't want to explain to us or Albrecht why Marie was murdered 😭

#

Also cleaning up after a murder is messy and I think Loid has enough work to do

#

His poor back :(

night grail
flat tree
solid otter
#

I still, to this day, remember that person who thought Albrecht was classist like Roathe is. Because

His granddaughter is????

#

I genuinely hate when people explain away Roathe's bad actions by saying "he's from the orokin empire he doesnt know better!!" As if. The family doesn't know better as a whole

#

And it shows with them

potent crown
#

my hot take

#

kim should've been a 1999 thing

solid otter
#

Mhm

#

I agree

#

The Triad kim SUCKS

potent crown
#

I'm pretty sure I rambled about devil's triad/descendia should've been a durviri thing before

solid otter
#

Should've been a echoes update for them instead of shadowgrapher

#

Thats my hot take

potent crown
#

but like every part of that is implemented badly? roathe's trauma logs should straight up just play as a short cutcene of him monologuing it after each descendia run

night grail
#

Tbh shadowgrapher is hardly even an echoes update imo

solid otter
#

Not saying it is, I mean it as in. It should've been one

potent crown
#

whaddya mean echoes update

night grail
#

It's not necessarily the worst update ever. It just kinda isn't an echoes update for the old peace outside adding like 3 perita tiles and the guilty

obtuse gyro
#

Shadowgrapher is an echoes update?

solid otter
obtuse gyro
#

I thought it was a standalone

#

since like the main shunt of it has little to do with the old peace

solid otter
#

Where did yall get that from christ 😭 im saying it SHOULD'VE been one

obtuse gyro
night grail
#

I don't remember hearing this tbh

obtuse gyro
dark geyser
#

I saw clip of roathes romance dialog, why can't I hear those things from a real person :/

potent crown
#

like why you can't hear the trauma log monologues from Roathe speaking it to you in person? or

#

because yeah that is just bad. I want roathe fully animated saying these things

dark geyser
#

No like him being disappointed I didn't sit in his lap

night grail
solid otter
#

Thank God I don't ever want to date Roach

uncut solar
solid otter
#

Filth.

uncut solar
#

Ah yes

#

The romance discussions

solid otter
#

Not a big fan of Roathe tbh IvaraSippy

balmy storm
#

Don’t make sense for drifter to romance him

solid otter
#

our literal oppressor
we can romance him??
??????

night grail
#

Also none of the triad really interest me

solid otter
#

Lyon is the best for me

night grail
#

Other than lyon platonically because he just seems like he'd be a cool guy to be friends with

#

Roathe at best would be that one teacher that's an ass but also irreplaceably knowledgeable

#

KALYMOS????

solid otter
#

KALYMOS???????

night grail
#

Nonzero chance kalymos was inspired by this character

hearty pendant
#

"lying cat"

night grail
wild wind
#

Yes the lying cat

hearty pendant
#

the concept of this is. very funny to me

wild wind
#

It tells you if someone is lying

#

Yes, one of the best things from Saga

solid otter
#

I can see the family owning Kubrows methinks

hearty pendant
#

what the hell are the duviri kubrows called
Euleria had them commissioned, at least

solid otter
#

Yeah!

#

You'd think she'd have at least one

#

Reckon she did the same with the Kavat one?

night grail
#

Krubies and kexats

solid otter
#

Nodders

night grail
#

It would be really funny if kalymos COULD speak but was just the lying cat and nobody actually told a lie around her yet

solid otter
#

Shocking considering she was around Albrecht

#

Mm.

Albrecht got kidnapped and he sent Kalymos to come get us

night grail
#

Vadim Sverdlov, I have a question

tight pagoda
hybrid tundra
#

So strange I can't find anyone online pointing out how similar Loid is to Revolver Ocelot, it's almost too much to be a coincidence.

steep plume
#

i jsut finished veilbreaker

#

did hunhow's son became a archon šŸ’€ or was i tweaking

solid otter
#

Yeah lmao

#

Pazuul, he's just kinda there now

steep plume
#

how did he become a archon tho

cerulean kiln
#

Grafting

steep plume
#

oh nah-

#

thats nasty

fringe pond
fierce kiln
#

in archon hunt spy missions there is a chance for erras personality to temporarily take over and he apologizes to the tenno

steep plume
#

Sadge

thick iron
#

unrelated but when was the last time y'all did a sortie

solid otter
#

Mm, did one last week

thick iron
#

i haven't done one in months i think

#

i used to do them religiously in like december-january 😭

solid otter
#

They don't really. Have much point

thick iron
#

3 day mod drop chance booster is good tbf

#

but i cba to do it daily lmao

#

ah mining, my favorite warframe activity

solid otter
#

I like mining..

uncut solar
#

Mining warframe when

floral hawk
#

wanted to make a rock and stone joke but the Atlas in the room demands me to address him

thick iron
#

i have been trying to get hesperon and i've gotten nothing but venerol and travidite

#

alright man

#

i'm free from hesperon jail

viral bear
#

im drowning in the game content while some die of thirst

#

Time to farm the insign stuffs that'd be a great flex and fashuion

slate garnet
wild wind
#

But it's a super flex so I'm totally making it my gaming goal this month

thick iron
#

For some reason i just don't feel like doing the event 🄲 even though the rewards are really good rn

uncut solar
#

Same

#

I'll probably buy the stalker stuff for plat later

thick iron
#

i changed my mind i was just hate larping

#

ascension lowk fun

#

i think i was just projecting my annoyance with follies hunt onto this because i remember trying to grind out that event and burning out

uncut solar
#

Idk I'm just busy playing other games and having a job

thick iron
#

yeah i finally have time to go back to warframe grind now becuz i graduated

vestal dome
#

So I've been doing a little brainstorming for a Necramech.

Necramissile (1):
Fire a high Blast damage non-tracking missile with extreme explosion knockback. This knockback can push the user, but does not trigger any form of self stagger.

Reactive Converter (2):
Upon Activation, gain 20s of Shield Recharge Rate and Minus Shield Recharge Delay (Scales w/ Strength) along with Magnetic Status Resistance
Shield Damage taken boosts Necramech Status Chance (Weapons and Abilities)
Activating Shield Gate triggers an explosion around the Necramech that applies Cold and Impact status.

Energy Spire (3):
Plant a spike in an area with a large radius around it (70m, scales w/ Range)
Kills in this area give Energy to the killer
Planting a spike onto an enemy will drain the target's Health and diffuse it into all allied units in the area

Exalted Archgun (4):
Missile Volley Gun with large blast radius and high status chance, alt fire fires Necramissile (Similar to Ivara's Artemis Bow alt-fire immediately firing Quiver)
Primary Fire leaves lingering status fields which apply the weapon's elements without IPS.

thick iron
#

there isn't any sort of trick to getting these anomaly shards is there i really just have to do the glowing veil proxima railjack missions šŸ„€

slate garnet
#

Looks cool tho

vestal dome
#

That and making this Necra’s survivability option shield gating.

azure solar
vestal dome
north condor
#

Im doing the jade shadows quest rn, did shadow just have a baby? Or am I geeked?

vestal dome
supple igloo
#

So, Jade and Sorren (Stalker) were a couple during the prime Orokin era. They were caught having an elicit affair with each other by an Executor. Jade was pregnant with their child when Executor Ballas turned them both into warframes.

undone lodge
#

Yeah

#

Stalker didn’t know, so he thought he still had a chance at getting to see or be with his wife and child, which is a big part of his hate for the Tenno - since he didn’t realise Jade was his wife, he thought they took that chance when they rebelled

supple igloo
#

He still tries to give us acupuncture with Dread, Despair, and Hate in his free time when he’s not being a dad. But mostly that’s been handed off to the Acolytes.

solid otter
flat tree
balmy storm
balmy storm
#

It’s probable that by the end of the Jade Shadows arc that he’ll no longer be an adversary to us
Though if that happens I would assume his drops would be relegated somewhere, somehow

solid otter
balmy storm
solid otter
#

They are affected but they don't really. Get punishment. Probably just ridiculed lmao

balmy storm
#

To be clear that may be why she was fine with it
I’m unsure if Albrecht saw himself above the law, more so he probably thought they were irrelevant after Wally lol

solid otter
#

"Haha you screwed the gross servant" type shit ykim

balmy storm
#

Grandmother is also more. Chill and less. Awful so I can def see her being chill above Sorren and Jade too
To be clear

solid otter
balmy storm
solid otter
#

She has. 2 lines, and they're. Kinda just "oh yeah Albrecht does that", not. Her actual feelings on it
-# albeit i do not agree with her take that Albrecht only sees others as "secondary players", as if she isnt guilty of the same thing 😭

balmy storm
#

If we ever drag him home I hope he has a convo with her

#

Maybe he brings up who Father’s father is

solid otter
#

If Daughter doesn't get him first

balmy storm
#

It’d be
So cool to know Father’s family’s name

solid otter
#

Girly is PISSED. Son, not so much

solid otter
balmy storm
#

Lets get all the people who hate that man into a room together and put him in the middle

balmy storm
solid otter
#

Yeah, Petros Vorten

#

I assume Grandmother was Dagath Vorten before she gave her name up

#

Which might have ties to the Vortengeist Labs from the Gyre Deluxe

balmy storm
solid otter
#

With. Roathe

balmy storm
#

Oooo

#

Oh

solid otter
#

Yeah lmao, what a horrid thing to have to do to get it

balmy storm
#

The one thing he’s actually good for: Orokin lore

solid otter
#

Mmhm

#

Son is more pissed about the cavia than Albrecht leaving, but. That makes sense for him

#

Daughter is. Rabid.

balmy storm
#

Do you know if you have the wally god convo no matter what

#

The one with the unused boolean

solid otter
#

But the "adults" are far more. Neutral? Mother is more happy that Loid is back, over anything about her father

solid otter
balmy storm
#

Cause I don’t have the energy nor passion to get Loid up those stairs

azure solar
solid otter
solid otter
balmy storm
#

Can I
Only talk to Roathe?

#

I can talk to Marie til I get Lyon but as soon as I do that I don’t want to talk to her after what happened

solid otter
#

Mm, pretty sure Roathe's chats do kinda rely on the others but im unsure fully

#

Im not really the one to ask, @hearty pendant is. Probably the better one

balmy storm
#

Grey please help
I don’t want to talk to Marie or Roathe more than I have to IvaraCry

granite estuary
#

I think I messed up my Devil's Triad. I am Best Friends with everyone, but the Loid Reunion cutscene won't play. Is it because I accidentally asked Lyon for help before securing both Marie and Roathe's help?

solid otter
#

Mm, check the other's profiles

granite estuary
#

there's no more conversations coming for any of them.

solid otter
#

Oh shit i. Think you failed on Lyon? And maybe roathe but idk

granite estuary
#

Yeah, it's looking like it. So I basically have to withhold talking to Lyon if he starts talking about being absent-minded until I have at least one of the others committed, because otherwise he drops out and can't be recovered.... Lovely.

#

With no warning, either.

#

So basically, I should have everything but because I did things out of order I got screwed.

#

If I reset, do I have to do 21 descendias again, and/or wait for Roathe to resend al lhis VMs?

granite estuary
#

ah yeah. Here. And no warning it permanently kills his participation.

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I thought I would get another chance to ask again once the other two were ready especially since I was getting nothing from Marie due to what I assume was a bug and Roathe needed more Descendia runs.

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=_=

obtuse gyro
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so if youve already gotten them resetting wont wipe them

granite estuary
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Ah, good. Though do they only come in 1/day?

obtuse gyro
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but you ideally should be careful because the VMs may take a moment to load in after reset

obtuse gyro
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so if youve got a big amount of chem and convos done, and then start clobbering roathe

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you will get many quickly

granite estuary
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I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and reset them, as much as it sucks.

hearty pendant
karmic idol
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Kahl stills alive yay

hearty pendant
# balmy storm Grey please help I don’t want to talk to Marie or Roathe more than I have to <:I...

assuming you haven't already gotten your answer elsewhere:
iirc, the 'wally god/ce' convos don't have any requirements other than rank?
-# and not being in a failstate
don't know if they're guaranteed though, best idea i have is just to reroll the convo once you're at the right rank (looks like r5c5 for the last one, unfortunately) by reentering base of operations?
though i'm not sure if that actually works still? pretty sure you could do it w/ the hex at first. should reroll on daily reset if not

wild wind
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I was rerolling convos by accident last week

steep plume
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why am i getting flashbanged after i killed the protector stalker

zenith jacinth
steep plume
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There was bursa spawning also

zenith jacinth
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then it was the bursaOperatorHeadache

steep plume
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HowBlobRegor

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And why

zenith jacinth
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some bursas have a flashbang ability

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because

thick iron
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i wonder if the naramon upgrade for decaying combo count will eventually just become a part of the regular game with how DE is treating qol updates

thick iron
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this does work with mesas regulators right

shadow forum
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With hound companion.

mossy axle
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Am I supposed to max rank Necraloid standing to get Loid upstairs, or is it just the entrati standing?

cerulean kiln
mossy axle
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cool, ty!

celest hollow
shadow forum
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Or use that one with getting over shields to stay longer alive.

celest hollow
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why do that when you can just slot it on your archgun instead

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I assume you’re talking about fortifier

dense acorn
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so...
with the newest protos of ryoku and vena coming to play,and from the future no less,what insights y'all think we gonna get?
because expectedly i'm already fascinated how the corpus will be involved,even if they have a small part

balmy storm
dense acorn
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wait has this actually been confirmed -
because if so that's tuyking awesome

solid otter
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Which they really need to stop doing 😭

steep totem
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What if it's Drifter who made the new Protoframes, after being inspired by Old Al?

dense acorn
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honestly i'd be alright with it either way
albrecht's probably been all over so it'd make sense for us to continue following the paper trail
though i do wonder how exactly we'll be introduced to these two...

steep totem
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Well, considering Constellations is (allegedly) played from Stalker's perspective, he'll probably introduce us

balmy storm
steep totem
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And then resume trying to kill us as usual

balmy storm
balmy storm
balmy storm
steep totem
steep totem
balmy storm
steep totem
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Was just spitballing strange possibilities

night grail
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I have a whole spiel about it

dense acorn
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honestly i wouldn't want to run into a future version of ourselves...
also how so? dualism is the thing of mind/body,isn't it?

night grail
balmy storm
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We wouldn’t encounter our future self and if we did it’d be fine
Like
In terms of the universe

night grail
balmy storm
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We aren’t going to the future

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Not yet anyway

dense acorn
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oh right - almost forgot the whole sun/moon thing too

balmy storm
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That’s a big part of dualism
Like
The religion lol

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Old earth religion with remnants, we mostly see it with the Dax and our ā€œmorality compassā€
Iirc we have some other examples here and there

night grail
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Do those verses sound like itd be relevant any new characters we have seen so far ThinkingVor

balmy storm
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It does sound like Ryoku and Vena lol

night grail
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Yeah Dualism is the prominent religion in the warframe universe before the Vain Faith took over during the Orokin Empire

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Vain Faith is kinda self explanatory by the name

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But yeah i have a whole spiel about Ryoku and Sirius, and Vena and Orion with dualism and nominative determinism

glad nova
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I’m slow but are Sirius and Orion warframes or just playable characters?

supple igloo
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Both I think.

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I think we play as the son we chose in the quest and then outside of the quest they both will be a warframe.