#spoiler-chat
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Cut them some slack, theyve been in a imaginary death loop with no real interactions for many years, since they were young
!!!!!
yet they still had quite negative experiences with the orokin prior to that
that they would remember after leaving duviri
I mean I played my drifter as a desperate idiot lmao
It's funny to flirt with absolutely everything
Nah
The operator has to relive Adis dying and now solve the Stalkers children problems while the Drifter screws an Orokin commander immediately after
I feel like as a kid they'd probably be like " omg the Orokin are so cool, I am too young and naive to realize I'm being exploited for their vanity! I sure hope nothing goes wrong on this ship, it'd be a shame if they tried rushing through things"
That’s canon.
MY canon
be a shame if tuvul called them a germ that he was 'wiping his hands of' and cancelled the project for everyone to hear
I think you missed the part where things got rushed due to the Orokin, essentially causing the Drifter to be trapped in Duviri for hundreds to thousands of years lol
In a way they are responsible
Even with Roathe not directly being responsible he was also part of the Old War
And def did war crimes
Y’know
The war the Operator was part of
Even just ignoring the literal crimes of the Orokin caste, Roathe’s just not a good person lol
Trust me, im trying to bullcrapping a reason to forgive roathe
And honestly i can’t figure smth out
I think it's fine to roleplay a dumbass that's into the bad boy appeal for drama
Ok but this isn’t just a bad boy 😭
There’s bad boy and then there’s part of the tyrant ruling class
Who's also simultaneously a victim of it and currently in a powerless position, so like
Again I'm not even saying he's a good person I just think there's plausible roleplay reasons to go for him
I don’t think there is on the Drifter end of the spectrum
For Roathe himself
Sure
But Drifter dating him makes no sense
I think the issue with forgiving Roathe is that he doesn't seem to change much. If he did, or at least seeds are planted, it'd be fine. Like Paarthurnax from Skyrim and Thaedus from Invincible was probably as bad as him, but by the time we meet them they're repentant
Better than ballas
There’s def a balance with the KIM chats to allow for roleplaying but I think they lost the plot a bit cause some stuff Drifter just
Would not do lol
Yeah
I said that earlier
He still sucks lol
Well one is still genocidal but it comes from a place of guilt
Tbf I think that's less a Roathe problem and more a Devil's Triad story implementation problem.
It should either be an exclusively Drifter storyline (a cinematic quest about time travelers ending up in Duviri or whatever) or a direct tie in to Old Peace & Entrati family and therefore be Operator content
Agreed, they focused too hard on both endings being similar so they kinda homogenize
I genuinely understand that roathe is extremely bad and he’s def nowhere near kind or good.
But, i love honestly, he holds a place in my heart tbh
Agreed, the Triad are just generally a horrific mess
Again, i know roathe is straight up a genocidal
I mean I do get it if you find him physically attractive
And at times I recall he was fun to talk to
But he doesn’t really change at all by the end of it
If the question is if the Orokin can be forgiven and Roathe is meant to give us that answer then I think it’s a pretty solid no lol
If we didn’t need him alive for
Whatever reason there is for why we haven’t killed him yet
Then he would likely be dead
I did in fact not forgive Roathe
We could possibly in the future get more stuff about current protoframes in general, who’s to say we couldn’t?
It’s def not a guaranteed thing, but it’s a possibility
We could possibly have a good eventual conclusion to both devil’s triad and the hex
Oh for sure, I’d love if they just
Completely reworked the Triad and expanded on them and the others in an update
Hex got a conclusion
I’m like 90% sure that Roathe is only romancable because Rebb wanted him to be btw lol
Like my hot take is that DE just doesn't know how to properly handle Drifter and Operator content in relation to each other. It should imo be like, keep Drifter to Duviri, 1999, and pretty much any storylines that aren't directly related to the Orokin/Tenno/Stalker/etc main story where Operator belongs. Like use them for experimental side trips that also flesh out the overall gonzo setting of Warframe, while Operator is focused on the more straightforward magic sci-fi war stuff.
Wally and Albrecht can tie the two halves together as narrative link but otherwise yeah keep the plots separate...
Who else but rebb
Exactly lol
I’d assume it’s the voice more than anything else
I realized the gif had bad word
Drifter doesn’t have anything else in Duviri or 1999 atm and they aren’t doing more 1999 content
Drifter’s placement is weird cause they have to share with the Operator or be forced elsewhere
They can work together for the main arcs rn sure but that’s not what we’re seeing
The Triad just don’t really relate to the Old Peace at all beyond Roathe was technically there
I would have rather that we see him, pre-helminth in the quest at the minimum
To unlock the Guilty you have to make Rebb's crush bow in front of her self-insert OC
LOL
I wish the Triad weren’t as big of a stain as they were
Cause I’d give this one to her if not for that lol
She’s done an immense amount of good for the game so she deserves somethin’
But man
The Triad ain’t it girl
I honestly agree with you
Nearly everything the triad touched got tainted istg 😭
Triad COULDVE been better tbf
It touched the romance system and oop
A really poor execution of a “polycule”
It touched the kim system and oop
Multiple things across the system broke because of one man
It’s weird to say the least, “yeah im seeing another person from a different time period, i hope you don’t mind” like what
It’s so messed up cause
Wdym you start dating someone else and only after tell your partner, then they blindly just say yes???
Yeah honestly I would've wished to see Roathe as a regular person in Old Peace playing a minor role, and later he gets protoframed and time travels and ends up in Duviri by accident and becomes a Drifter problem incidentally (with Descendia being an Isleweaver style all-Warframe game mode)
Arthur and Lettie are monogamous
They literally got character assassination that update
You really just want to see more Duviri (me too
)
Same
I’m trying to think of a better way they could have done Roathe’s character
Tbh the easiest answer is have his endings like. Actually matter???
If he becomes “good” then have him address his guilt or something
Have him do something to show he’s changed
Hey
What if
In his good ending he renounces the Orokin, uses a refacia kit and unblues himself
Yeah...I want more excuses to go back but other than farming clamps for the occasional potato I just have nothing to do there after maxxing out intrinsics
If he unblues himself, im killing everyone in the system and become worse than all orokins myself
I really like the roguelite stuff
LOL
Maybe he can just verbally renounce them forever then 
I think it’d be funny if he kept it a non blue but still incredibly exotic colour
Yeah same, the issue honestly comes from a technical aspect on DE’s end
Duviri is literally just too big
He becomes green.
He’s green for an amazing reason
So still picking from the refacia
Honestly hated Duviri when I first unlocked it and put it off for a long time but the first time I got to carry a whole party in circuit with Nezha (at the time one of my very few fully built frames) I was like....I get it now.
I had a bug where that actually happened!
He also turned even bluer once
I hope we get some pride stuff with the protos
You said rgb and the dots aligned lol
Also: Circuit style Descendia would've easily worked given how it's already a random remix mode
Mechanically I feel like everything I'm saying makes sense
It does
I would love a descendia style duviri anything
Really duviri anything
My partner had a concept for an Orokin tower that fell into Duviri island
Home of a new vampire warframe
Very dracula, Rebb would def go for it
What's making Duviri too big is my question
Revenant, garuda...
We need a proper vampire frame cause Revenant ain’t it
Rebb
You can do better than your first frame now
make it great
Islands
Garuda’s more gore but yeah I see the connection lol
.... explain?
Many islands
Very big
It’s why some islands are mood related
There's already too many which is why they change based on mood
It’s why Isleweaver is just those two
Couldn't new game modes just be new stand-alone islands with the Duviri open world itself be-
...yeah just do that lol
Pictured; redeemed Roathe
Green roathe
Gothe
He Is kinda gothic
Groathe
Roathe villain is red
Greeathe
Roathe behind the slaughter
And why he ourple
No clearly he's cutting lil pasta cubes and feeding them to you throughout the act. What a considerate gentleman
He behind the slaughter of the poor children
takes the expression "sure ill take a stab at it" too litteraly
The yuvans…
i can do that myseldf just fine
WAS THAT THE CONTINUITY OF XX87
Oh leylani… you are no roathe.
PUT YOUR SPECIAL SIRROCO AWAY DRIFTER THE SCALDRA ARE CLOSING IN
umbra is deff backhanding us over that
You know if I could flirt with Viktor I would
I don't actually find him attractive I just think it would be funny
Two types of Drifter’s
That one
And Voruna Prime trailer
You’d flirt with a random techrot if you could
It would be funny to fluster him
Yeah exactly
yeah adis has a quote about devil work iirc
We should be able to kill him once per loop :)
both? both
No but I'd flirt with Loid
Because funny
Kiss em in one
Kill em in the next
i agree with you here actually
He’s in a happy relatio— i mean decently good relationsh— i mean, just a relationship.
he might be too loyal to his owner albricht
Albrecht would personally kill your drifter
hes albricht's pet...
Who’s worse actually
Roathe or Viktor
Both are just. Awful but y’know
Not even to further his plan
They’re literally in a romantic relationship lol
albricht did shoot our drifter
Roathe.
But i’d kill viktor over roathe any day
...oh you innocent soul
No
The writers literally stated it that it’s 100% romantic lol
You’re the innocent one here bud
Yeah but that was like part of his being cryptic and furthering his plan
He already did
I bet Roathe would love to kill Viktor actually 👀
Be can do it
Again
Roathe would love to kill anyone let’s be fr
Roach wouldn't hurt the other triads
Roach
Yeahh
But I think he’d enjoy killing the Proto-Orokin’s facist lapdog a bit more than say
Random lancer #287
Roach 🥀
Why does he not do that btw
He constantly talks about hating them lol
It’s been a bit so I really don’t remember why he doesn’t kill them and why we don’t kill him
something about not making the drifter mad, iirc
He utilizes an ancient tibetan monk technique known as lying
Do we not kill him literally on the basis of getting Loid upstairs??
Joke answer? He secretly wants to have a threesome with them. After seeing drifter, he decided to make it a foursome.
Serious answer? He probably just figuring out his situation and doesn’t want to kill them yet, but he is considering, so…
We would ruin his everything if he tried yeah 
Third answer? Mix of both
Toxic poly
The Triad woulda been better as Triad
If ya know what I mean
LOL
It would be nice to have some positive poly representation
Not that the Triad would
Ever be that
actual answer: he cares about them
pet is a "playful" term too
Our only examples are
The most toxic polycule ever
And
It’s totally a polycule guys trust me I totally didn’t cheat on my partner and ask for permission after
It is
They are still 100% in a romantic relationship
an incorrect one for the relationship between loid and brecht
Lets be fr, if triad were a poly, that definitely would be questionable.
A facist bigot devil, a masochistic preist, and a blindly trusting nun
If Albrecht’s love for Loid was not real then the strand would not have been cut.
two talls and a smol
By the void that’s a time bomb
lyon is not masochistic
Exactly
Folk.
That would be more entertaining ngl LOL
Imagine adding drifter into the mix
They a whole mess on their own
He does hit himself out of repentance, not out of enjoyment afaik ):
you are about to argue with lyon romancer #1, are you sure what you're doing is worth it
Ik, but it’s simpler to just say he a masochist tbf
Drifter thinks they can fix them
Drifter is craft glue
Yeah ig, very much so an oversimplification lol
man past me would be confused as hek at me romancing TWO men in this cool robot game I found randomly
Is there a lore reason why Albrecht gave the Excalibur serum to a guy named Arthur, codenamed Broadsword, who is also British? 
no
Funny
he's repenting
for nothing
He thought it’d be so funny.
He definitely DIDNT consider the consequences giving eleaner a long tongue serum tho
tbf it wasn't really intentional
Quincy is a sniper
He made him the sniper frame
Aoi works with bikes
Magnets
Amir had ADHD and deals with tech
Electricity
Lettie is a medic
Medicframe
I think Albrecht is either picking the serums based on skill sets or, he’s bein’ a lil funny
Didn’t he almost kill his family?
give the smart kid the antimatter frame
Yeah see he’s just a funny guy
Tbf, his family were really abusive and toxic, so…
Ooooh
Albrecht thinks Velmir is cool!
He has a serum for every character type
the unstable husband and wife get the toxic and the cold frame
I’m glad he got out
Not so glad he got his memories tampered with by the infestation-
velimir probably reminded albrecht of vilcor
He gave the Catholic a priest frame
They’re a
Viral hit
Truuue
Wouldn’t it be like
Dualist?
still disappointed that people don't use velimin to refer to both at once
Please albrecht, give a beautiful big black woman a follie serum, and i’ll forgive you for everything
plot twist, skinny white man follie
Minmir
Execution for albrecht
Immediate one
it ends up looking like the goombas from the old mario movie
I want the Ember proto to be like
Either Velimir’s sibling, his ex or his rival
And for her to be a tomboy

I wonder why
I mean I can see it
what proto ideas did I have again

idk anyways toxic old sailor yaoi with hydroid and sevagoth proto
Hildryn proto would break us in multiple ways
toxic bc one is a pirate and the other a rescue ship captain, which would probably translate to someone not fond of pirates
And then they kiss
one way being literal?
indeed we are
Mayhaps
ah the infinite cycle. talk about wf, want to play wf, launch wf, realize I have nothing to do in wf, close wf, get depressed
Go play descendia
-# stalker when seeing jade in a squad:
Or fashion
Or decorate
Or do the alerts
Or get the new operation items
Or check your foundry
Or pet your kavat/kubrow/moa
or
thick trans artist warframe? ... you trying to call out as many as you have just now?
I checked my foundry, my rank 14 frost is why I added the "get depressed"
Oh I would like a trans proto
Ig
That’s flare actually lol
also "YOULL BE HEARING ABOUT THIS FROM MY THERAPIST TENNO"
Transmasc proto when
Transmasc and transfem protos when
I just wanna play some REAL mmos with frends but I have almost none
wf isn't an mmo imo
Hes red because he wants to freaking kill you
*happy transmasc living out his wildest combat-centric fantasies"
nah he just flustered
He's red because he got a sunburn
Roathe when he’s eviler now and is waiting for Albrecht to get back so he can KILL EVERYONE
hes red because you cant place him there
Gods that is such a stupid plan
this one wins
Lavos protoframe
He primed himself
He's a self made man
yes
HOLY SHIT
GOD. DAMN IT.
hes stuck in the door of the prison due to an alchemy mishap...
I still can't remember the other proto ideas I had
Made himself too thicc
gauss proto that's pissed at amir for taking the speedster role
what was the thing aqbout mirage laughing?
they do cute little races all the time
When Ballas was making her she changed the design or something and was laughing
Gauss proto that acts like a cocky bastard
It’s been a bit but
Hey
It works 
And his boyfriend Grendel who tries to keep him humble
Roathe becau— wait what
"naw id rather be a goth jester baddie actually"
nah, boring
Fr fr
he likes to watch from the sidelines with snacks
grendel proto that acts like a co- wait that's just sonic
Y’know he could canonically be genderfluid
We don’t know what bodies he’s hopped to and from
-# “Oh, how you suffered to become this beast. Yet you laughed at me. Others writhed and raged in the vice, but you, you played the fool. And so it was, that you distorted my design.
-# A sanguine trick. A murderous comedy. But no one is laughing anymore... except you.
-# The mere vapors of your life, shimmering still. Mirage.”
SELF MADE WOMAN!!!!
Mirrorframe having gender dysphoria is messed up but I also approve lol
-# you taught me how to be smol
-# thank you
-# become tiny
-# le smol bnuy
DREM YOL LOK
-# sprodling energy
o
......
The first gif when looking up sprodling feels like it shouldn’t be there

"how arrogant, they do not even speak our tongue"
me furiously looking for a shout that fits as a response
;-;
that's alduin but yea
do you still hate me btw?
I gotta mod skyrim so it's not just taking up totally valuable storage space...
that'd be interesting to explore i think
well I have you blocked but I don't even remember why anymore so. I guess not? I usually remember why I block people when it's hate-worthy
unblocked now ig
y'all think sirius and orion will speak?
probably
probably not when we're using them, but during the quest yea
i can imagine orion sounding like stalkers og voice
the track record of (conscious) sentient frames being able to speak so far is 50/50
you thought i- a trans woman- was being transphobic when i was just self reporting
yea I don't remember so it can't have been too severe
or my depression is hitting my memory even harder one of the two
"im just a degenerate" as i called myself
i would like you to be in the friend pocket- you seem cool- and im medicated now so its easier for me to make sense
Power roathes
cute, i think at some point they should reference FOOLISHNESS, SIRIUS! FOOLISHNESS!
Hey Orion, your planet busting days are over
do every pride flag (including shit that don't make sense like lesbian)
Everything could work technically
Bro is def fluid
You mean their gender is water?
Yo did i just deliver a baby in warframe?
Do i need to have the entrati family at lvl5 before Marie will date me? I only ask because it says she wants to reunite loid
Maybe it helps? 🤔
dating any of the triad and reuniting the family are separate as far as i'm aware
perchance
Hope so, but thanks
I'm only like 30k standing away from lvl5 so not that big a deal
Pregnancy minigame 🗣️
Or or less
Yes
Congratulations on becoming Origin’s #1 midwife (midhusband?). Your mug will arrive in 5-7 business days
Now get ready for constellations within a month or so
Thankfully my job has me working 12 hour shifts, Friday-Monday. So whenever constellations comes out, I should be free to play it hehe
Get ready to possibly beat up your godchildren
you can't just say perchance
-# MERCH IDEA DE!!!!
there's a place around here that does custom embossing for mugs and stuff, I should get some Warframe merch made lol
This is an existing mug
I once drank soup out of it
No longer on the website it seems
I got it at TennoCon last year
It's probably something that comes around every Tennocon
I would assume you own this mug too?
NO I DONT AND ITS SAD
I missed the wave of Albrecht merch
Ive never forgiven myself
I missed the chance for TennoVip in São Paulo 'cause of scalpers and work
Wh
The moment the tickets were up for grabs and i tried getting 2 (for me and my gf), BOOM, insta sold out
In SECONDS
Yeah man I don't think that was scalpers, did you see any that were. Being sold?
And people tried to sell it
The tickets were free
Thats the problem
If it was paid, even if it was R$50, i would gladly pay for them, but noooooo
Free tickets cause no one is gonna pick 50 of them and sell them
how are the corpus connected to the orokin again
Parvos probably
Money
Money talks or whatever
money?
** M O N E Y**
parvos stole some rubedo or something from them
somewhere out there, somebody probably sold shitty rubedo to the orokin
Ea-Nasir,,,
his legacy will surpass that of the orokin's
he lives in the spirit of warframe trade chat
the founder stole a radioactive ruby from them
a radioactive ruby that reacts very poorly to being eaten
I tried to alliterate more but it sounded dumb
Rubedo incident
Parvos and Ballas worked on a frame
Also I seem to recall that the Orokin economy collapsed so badly during the Old War that they allowed the Corpus to do capitalism for them
I don't remember that being mentioned
yes
I mean "parvos granum" straight up means "small grain" so like. dude can not hide his origin
if i wanna date one of the protoframes, do i need to ask them in person ? cause i only have the base dialogue options, im assuming i just dont have enough chemistry
you need a specific chemistry rank
but it also gives you the option to confess through the KIM
several options through KIM, usually
btw if you want to romance marie you should definitely confess as soon as it gives you the option
ive had my dose of french people so i'll pass
managing to avoid the trap through unconventional means
also i only need rank 4 with the Hex if im planning on dating hex members right ?
syndicate rank technically only matters bc it locks chemistry ranks
but the required chemistry is also different between protos
3 are r4, 3 are r5 iirc?
or maybe one lower, r3 and r4
uhuh, didn't know
ive finished it yes, i got rank 4 today matter of fact
the trap?.......
there's an early confession option with marie that makes her get angry at you
oof
I think it's funny that they gave the french nun wisp proto a trap like that
Well it’s wisp, ppl want to date her a lot so it makes sense
Character-wise also makes sense
yes I
that's why I emphasized those "popular" aspects
you know im curious, do people like, struggle a lot to understand what marie even says
I personally don't, not counting my obvious inability to understand french
I don’t understand French either
half of the time you can figure out from context clues and the other half of the time the words are similar enough
same w/ lettie's spanish
no cause my other friend who doesnt speak french hates the fact i understand her perfectly 😭
sounds like jealousy to me
definitively
Which quest has the best aesthetic?
Personal preference
Sacrifice
Whispers in the walls and heart of deimos
I fw Angels of Zariman
Seconding Angels
I also like that its basically a tutorial for all the new game modes
Old Peace because it has me in it
Personally I fw 1999 and TNW
Amazing presentation
marie's character is a lot more likable if you imagine her as the duolingo protoframe
HA
No but ur right
. What
So is it just me or did Reb imply that the twins are going to be male Equinox
hm?
all i remember about sirius/orion is that they mentioned the sound design for them was complicated
yeah they both refer to "the new Warframe"
Who said we playing em?
AHAHAHA I WAS RIGHT GET STUFFED
-# not directed at anyone
one official source that says warframes, one official source that says warframe
incredible
we will have to see on the devstream
Rebb was a bit excited in the first one
naw ill hear you out
haven't seen that one before lol, nice
-# don't think you got permanently stuck there so
The team did last devstream
They explicitly said "yeah u play Orion and sirius"?
I wonder what their abilities are
If you have absolutely any amount of listening comprehension, yes
I didnt watch the entire 50 minutes
I sped through it cause I got other stuff to do
Also that could be a gamemode
After all we have their ships
On uranus
they mention 'talking about their [sirius and orion's] warframes' on the next devstream
which is almost definitely referring to abilities n such
they've said on three separate occasions that a new Warframe is coming with Constellations
The only question is how DE is going to handle the Orion/Sirius split
Considering there are 2 new starchart nodes I'm hoping it's two warframes, and you grind parts for each at their respective node
But I'm not going to speculate pointlessly
wasn't it rj nodes
child mode
A daily reminder to all Warframe players: we don't hate this man as much as we wanted to
I didn't no, I spamed the bullet jump button ||until ordis showed up and reopened the door XD|| and eventually got out
uhh.. why.. why can't I collect this tag?
stamp.. thing
hopefully there's more than 5 in the level
worst case scenario is you redo it to grab the tag
seems weird tho, yeah
nvm there was one on the other side and that one wasn't collectable?? XD
no clue XD
I didnt know you could get harmony blueprints from the operation and now i have 2 of them. Idk what to do with this
It just drops naturally from the base gamemode the event is built on top of
You can either hoard them or just sell them for pocket change
Like the inventory sort of sell
oof
What do you think your most preferred form of Sirius and Orion would be?
Non-playable
Two frames in one that you can swap between during combat
Two frames in one that you can swap between out of combat (like operator and drifter)
Two separate frames entirely
From what DE has said so far, they’ll be two separate frames since they’re two different Warframes in the lore.
story spoiler ||Remind me why the stalker or sorren hates the tenno again?||
When the ninth beat rang a torrent of blood filled the stadium, loosed by Tenno blades. The drums, the Empire, fell silent forever.
Now I hunt, dividing your numbers. Watching from that dark place, cataloging your sins, I am the ghost of retribution. You may forget but you are not innocent.
stalker codex entry
||but also we took away his chance for ever seeing his wife again when we did that.|| jade shadows stuff
I'm confused If I'll be able to pick both
Or choose
the quest will be affected by your choice in jade shadows, the post-quest content is entirely separate
(And I for one want them to be two frames, I'm just curious what other people would prefer)
I like talking about things I enjoy, as well as what other people enjoy
I think DE said you can have both.
Post-quest. Whichever you play as during the quest is whichever one you chose during the original Jade Shadows.
nonplayable would be so lame though
Indeed. Especially after that baller trailer.
AHEM
Not to people outside of founders and those playing through The Old Peace quest.
I mean we do have umbra so that's not really the same
also its literally just excalibur
Yeah, but primed so it’s just better.
is prime actually better than umbra mechanically? I thought umbra's like a sidegrade
umbra has some minor differences to vanilla excal i believe
yeah it's the sentient stuff and the AI
I actually don’t know. The only real difference I know is his howl ability stripping sentients of their resistances and staggering enemies. And his passive, which needs some work.
which apparently got nerfed since people used to pop out into operator and use the AI for AFK farming
same issue as wuklone
Sounds about right.
They will be playable for sure
Idk if I’d prefer an equinox situation or having them be two frames, it may depend on what gappens in the quest tbh
The Old Peace:
How’d that work though?
umbra's 2 stuns
spending this much money/effort on an animated hype trailer for some random NPCs that maybe sell you some new arcanes would be so lame
Wdym
I don't think DE would do that
They’re the same person in two different bodies.
drifter/operator-
It’s a drifter operator situation yes
So how would the Equinox situation work. Because it is confirmed by the trailer that they can both exist at the same time without issues.
The universe in theory would compensate for their existence and shove one into the void to spectate
We
Do not know that lol
He's adapted to kill sentients, he also brought the delicious umbra mods
That may be just for that moment, like Operator and Drifter on the Zariman during the New War
They could “fuse” into one to a degree or could swap like Operator and Drifter, but they shouldn’t be able to coexist for an extended period of time
I would assume that if they can or cannot it will be explained (hopefully)
Then how’d they fight each other long enough for papa Hunhow to wake up. Last I checked Venus and Uranus aren’t close.
They were traveling incredibly fast and it literally is not an instant thing 😭
I don’t think the trailer, that we don’t even know the full canonicity of, is actually indicative of anything beyond they will be in the same spot of spacetime for at least an encounter
It’s possible they’ll be fine for the whole quest then by the end fuse or swap out with an explanation via email
I’m aware of that, but even then Operator and Drifter can’t coexist without one being in the void or both being on the Zariman in their dormizone.
They can
Just not for long
Hence the Zariman
I thought that's because Zariman is void-adjacent though
Again, we do not know the full scope of how canon the animation is.
It is but Drifter was being pulled away right before the choice
Hence why we make the choice
The Zariman was also not fully in the void
Except the Zariman is wedged between realspace and the void. So it’s kind of just, Drifter stays on Duviri side, and Operator stays on realspace side.
The way it works is one goes into a void bubble and spectates the other
grey bars of the void
Apply this to Sirius and Orion.
I mean yeah the Zariman is also on the edge of the void, exactly like the sanctum
I think that whatever happens will hopefully be explained to some extent, I can see them being a special cause due to the infestation or them fusing in a way due to it, but either way these are the rules and should still apply or at least be brought up
so coexistence seems to be default in the void and possible but unstable close to it
Yup
And even in that instance, again, Drifter felt the tug
It was on the edge of the void in a similar way to Lotus Eaters but def lesser since Drifter was feeling the tug
Vena or Ryoku might do some void shenanigans to keep them coexisting.
Idk about that
This isn’t a void problem
This is a universe problem
The universe compensates by tossing one into the void pocket
Because they are confirmed to come with their unchosen son to our timeline.
Yeah?
And they aren’t the same person so how would they function.
Eternalism lol
It’s literally a drifter operator situation
Sirius and Orion are the same person
For Vena and Ryoku?
Oh
For them?
Nah they’re chilling
Yeah, but like, how?
Are they fine just hanging around since they aren’t the same person?
Yeah?
Or like, is there a non-protoframe version somewhere in our timeline?
The universe cares about instances like Operator and Drifter or Sirius and Orion
Eh, universe wouldn’t compensate for that even if they were just born
We travel back in time in Lua Spy missions and we’re fine lol
Damn you Entrati
omg its alucard
I’m starting to get why The Hex don’t like him.
Aside from all the other crap he pulled in 1999
You’re thinking that the universe has to compensate just cause same person technically in the same spacetime
But it’s not just about that, it’s about them being the same in parallel
So the baby can coexist with Sirius or Orion no matter which they’ll be but Sirius and Orion themselves cannot coexist with one another as they are parallels in spacetime
You can visit your past or future but visiting an alt self means universe has a tantrum
I understand it. But like, I also don’t.
Can I help at all?
No you explained it fine but my brain just needs to like, process it all.
Get back to Talon Chernobog
finally got to do the old peace
Oh my god this game is killing me emotionally
yup !
All our kin were bound to fly...
For that far shore forlorn…
||I do quite like how the lullaby gets recontextualized when adis is healing the operator. Instead of being a song of only his people, its both of theirs now.||
I’ve been loving this game since I started a few months ago but these past few main quests have skyrocketed WF to genuinely one of the greatest games I’ve ever played story wise
Also the way ||the lyrics are missing when adis was either incapacitated or dead||
||yet that last verse remains||
TRUE I hope we get a follow up on it for tennocon
Even for like, the teasers they've been doing
The way they were teasing the lullaby last year
It's very intriguing how ||the verse lines up with the events in the quest||
Also ||HIS GRAVE IN FRONT OF US THE ENTIRE TIME||
For real!!
I mean I did tell people lol
It's great misdirection because ||the grave could just be interpreted|| as him dropping the mask, which is something we saw in the end of the demo after the dactolyst fight. You almost completely ignore ||the dead Xenoflora as a result of the terraforming||.
That teaser also featured a verse that's simply not in any version of the lullaby—
When your spring of hope runs dry, dream of me and hear my cry, seek to meet me by and by, on that far shore forlorn...
Look real talk the only way Adis was ||getting out of Old Peace alive|| was being turned into something else entirely and that didn't happen. 
However much you hate ballsack you don’t hate him enough
You will never hate him enough
Yes. This is the way.
This is the way
Ohhh....

This is the way.
As it says, maybe Lyon or Marie can help you
Oh I can fix it through them? I thought that was just flavor text
The triad regularly has points where the others can help if you get into Anathema with another member
The triad is also incredibly convoluted coding-wise so it could also just not work
If you don't have any chats tomorrow with Lyon and Marie that seem to indicate "I need help with Roathe", firstly (before doing a chat) do one mission to refresh the chats, and if there's still nothing that feels like it could be related, then maybe reset
As someone who reset, I can confirm it's much much much easier the second time around (you can basically choose an ending for Roathe in one dialogue option) and very interesting because ||Roathe is aware that you reset but doesn't remember stuff before the reset||
Also if I didn't reset then I wouldn't be dating all three at the same time
This has been your daily @tight pagoda bragging about romancing the Triad post
Ty :3
Oh I should preface that by saying me dating them all is definitely a bug
It's not intended and I have no clue how I did it
But I'm not going to complain
Its called the devils triad for a reason 
Barbershop quartet
i like how its flavoured as "hi lyon/marie please bother your cat for a week. for lore"
Why is Ordis so personally invested in Jade's legacy?
Ordis doesn't want her remnants to be used for Parvos' greed, and wants her to be put to rest by sending the motes to the Sun
Parvos Granum: "Cephalon, I know who you are – well, were. Do you think you are helping Jade? Preserving her honour. Her dignity? The Orokin used her, like they used you. A pantomime of justice and truth. She could have been a force of something greater. She still can. As a weapon of my righteous desire. The free hand of the market made freer, one smouldering beam of Jade Light after another."
Ordis: "Funny. You do not even realise it. You sound exactly like one of them."
Also sounds like Ordan had some direct contact with Parvos.
Parvos Granum: "You are not immortal, Ordan. Even a doughty Series Two will inevitably burn out. And what will your last conscious thought be, as your housing clouds obsidian-black and your identity dissipates into sour smoke? You will recall these moments of stubbornness, and regret them."
Ordis: "Ordan Karris should have SLIT YOUR THROAT when he had the chance."
Had to have some hired muscle
Parvos Granum: "Do you remember Corposium, Ordan? Do you recall the founding principle blazoned proudly in letters not of arrogant gold, but honest brass? 'None shall be slaves.' We used simple robotics, not cloned labour or mind-shacked cephalons, and we do so to this day. In Corposium's name I offer you sanctuary."
Ordis: "And in exchange you turn Jade into an assembly-line widget? NEVER."
Also he's just guilty about Jade:
"Could Ordis have saved Jade? Ordis has re-run a simulation of the event six hundred million four thousand and forty-three times, and Ordis has still not found a satisfactory course of action. Do these things… just happen, sometimes?"
Ordis: "All that is left of her is the Motes in this cave. Ordis could have— SHOULD HAVE— done more. Help Ordis stop Parvos Granum."
My friend told me you can date a 1999 protoframe and one of the frames you get after the old peace, tue or fase
Xata
Thats not tue or fase
That's true
Xata. (Truth)
It’s true in spanish
Xata. (Truth)
It began long before us, we who now live our perfect and dull, endless lives. It began long before these moon-palaces and body-markets hurling around our golden Sun. It began long before our light-coil thinkers, our radiation wars, our oil, smoke…. It began with us. The continuity and its twin, wanderlust. The need for unseen shores deep in our marrow. No judge, jester, queen, or king can escape this old blood. We are nomads, eternal. And when no ocean, mountain, or sky could contain us… our gaze hungered star-ward. Afar, they mocked us with their brittle light. Winking and jeering like dangling Ayatans forever out of reach, illuminating the truth: immortal as we are – we die with the Sun. That's where I come in.
I only speak french and english
Can't speak Void tongue?
No :(
Looks like you'll have to ask someone who speaks it for a few lessons
That’s why Ordis is best
None of what u say really answers the question
I would say he probably is invested in jade because of her disobedience to the orokin
Nothing other than that cause they def aint know each other
They did answer the question with that
(Ordis straight up explains why he wants to help Jade if you talk to him)
Ordan and Jade were both used by the Orokin to kill people. He can see their similar history and not want that to be her legacy
Has anyone not been used by the Orokin to kill people?
Don’t think so tbh
Ballas has never been used by the Orokin to kill people
The people of Cetus have never been used by the Orokin to kill people
When Narmer veils them one of them immediately outs our position which is attempted murder

Or they wanted to veil us
Either way it was bad for us
Oh
Qorvex
Narmer was spawned from an Orokin and at the time was controlled by one too
He was specifically made for us
To fight against the stuff in the labs!
His pronouns are con/crete
He’s basically our canon frame 
The Chosen Operator’s defense against the Murmur
Qorvex proto will in fact go crazy
Wonder how Albrecht actually. Figured it out
That radiation is bad for the murmur?
As in. Radiation killing murmur better
Science
Yeah, wonder how he figured it out
Tbh could have been a radiation leak or something
Does this mean he's familiar with murmur...
Or one of his many many experiments
Yes
It was around back then lol
Just in way less numbers and without Wally full on invading
The notes actually mention the books trolling him
I mean yeah but I have, for some reason, a hard time believing Albrecht wouldn't get ganked by it
They have defences
I would love if Qorvex prime’s trailer was Albrecht talking about how he figured out radiation works and what he plans to do with that knowledge
YES
The necramechs:
The ones Vilcor gave him and he still dont got his token in the netracells
He didn’t so like
Ain’t that hard to believe
As much of a wet rat that man is he isn’t stupid, he’s got defenses
I mean yeah but
Did he just throw a bunch of elements at them and record what did it better 😭
Tbh
Better experiment than the animals
10/10 defence totally
The Necramechs could never be compelled to attack the Murmur. Albrecht suspected they could no longer distinguish Between the Indifference... and himself. A theory he was reluctant to confirm."
Also another thomas needs to be affirmed but like
Is Albrecht looking at the camera here or nah
Eh kinda
Looking past it
Albrecht's skin still looks weird even while in warmer lighting, wonder why
I mean his boyfriend did have to grow it all back
He is a dead guy why do you think he has a grave?
True..
drifter/operator?
They’re the same age, bud
NOT VISUALLY
Nor mentally
Nor emotionally
But chronologically their paths were parallel
Operator wasn’t frozen in time
also "you can visitr your past or future but an alt causes the universe to have a tantrum"
they were just denied aging
Yes due to cryo
Drifter technically was denied it too but later and due to a time loop
More accurately Thrax just reset every day lol
But yeah they’re chronologically parallels to one another and the universe doesn’t like when those parallels interact in the same spot of spacetime
So it yeets one into a void pocket to spectate
arent we (the operator) technically orokin or are we a different thing?
Apart of the orokin empire, not an orokin as in the caste
If you just travel backward or forward to a time where you also existed nothing would happen, we do it with Lua spy and we’re fine lol
Heck you can literally rewrite events you technically are living through so long as they don’t prevent you from rewriting that event in a big way
We can go back and save a pod or move some debris but changing things so that you’d never even rewrite them is a no
personally i think non-playable would make sense lorewise- their dad would likely raise them to hate us/ probobly follow in his footsteps or even teach them to fear and avoid us
I mean we will likely get replicas of them if we will not be piloting them
Also in their timelines Stalker abandoned them ig
Though when is unclear
Or why
Possibly he was killed or taken to the future due to the very events of the quest
He used a scanner and saw they were weak to radiation???? Tf??? It's not that hard
he maybe he theorycrafted and then hit them with radiation
All i have to say, and I am not looking at anything in this chat room is, BRAVO DE!!!! Chains of Harrow has given me the chills.
M||athilda's|| h||usband|| is dead thanks to you btw
sonion
duh but we should make it a reality
rule 4
lowkey the syandana is cool. dunno if theres already something like that though
blade looks like krohkur
not that deep dawg
i mess with it but i asked it to be made to tease my friend cus he loves teto
some sort of collab would be cool though ngl
it lowkey is underwhelming but i didnt ask it to do that i just asked for the img and it added on as a plus
Its that deep, cmon
Don't ruin the chat with ai slop
...
"i like my slop authentically made by a 80% fat 20% protein organ piloting a bone mech in a flesh suit"
Yeah I like my teto slop ethically made
I like my slop homegrown
i like my slop labgrown
gits and shiggles are allowed guys
I like my slop built in a cave with a box of scraps
This isnt shits and giggles
Yeah but AI isn't
GenAi is actively harming artists among other groups, someone generated it, took resources, and thats not okay
dawg trust me teto isnt coming to this game🤦♂️
Doesnt matter
Ahh maybe its time for moderators since you seem so adamant on doubling down on it
Doesn't mean you need AI to make a concept
<@&778745217037238293> ai slop and the person is not removing it 
-# I feel bad for pinging mods but like cmon
We do not accept ai generated content in this server.
behold, organically sourced tetoframe
Perfection
Better quality than any ai machine could do
could use a little more work but you may get there
Maybe once I get the power back on I'll draw something
the drills 
If my pen didn't disappear every time I put it down
This is better simply because of the shitposty low-effortness in response
What do you mean "low-effort" 
Ai was arguably less effort true
slightly more peak
do them at your own pace if a quest seems to hard/diff you can cancel it and do another
some quest that is
lol quests being hard is crazy cause DE makes them a joke so new players can actually get them done
I know but some players have different lvls of "skill"
Got a friend baby tenno going from tsd to the sacrifice within a day and I'm really concerned
he isn't even MR7 ;-;
Post-tnw content is going to BEAT HIS ASS
MR doesn't really matter to an extent if he wants to use new weapons/gear have him focus MR for a bit
Aim for MR 18
Is he at least enjoying/understanding the story?
barely
he's just hoping into quests as they're done
😭 that always hurts the most
He might need to slow down then if he wants to understand
unless he's speed running it for more content
DE's current intended gameplay
Highkey I wish I could replay Old Peace so I could hear the kid crash out with Uriel but I don’t have the time to do it tonight ;-;
the humble no commentary youtube vid
god bless them and their bloodline. may they be prosperous for 10000 years
It’s like pulling teeth to find a Uriel crash out with the raven voice ;-;
It's really funny sometimes though because there was one who you can TELL never plays the game outside quests
thats genuinely a weird thought. just playing the quests
I have no idea which one raven is, so have the other one too
literally one of those
Look at this 😭😭😭😭
How are you HERE with an unmodded mk-1 braton
Absolute legend post, tysm : )
mk1 braton in the labs,,,
I should make kitguns and call them Mk-1 Braton and Lato
20 hours to kill one level 45 murmur
Like Loid do you want them to take an entire nap before killing any murmur or what this is about as paced as you can get
The video even cuts out most of that section because otherwise itd have taken too long
nekrox prime 😭
Like if you just play for quests and a little bit after that's fine, my only question is how the hell they got HERE like this
Like no mods not even using the nataruk??
you can't be having fun like that my guy
get better equipment, i beg
actually yea nataruk works just fine unmodded and you get it for free??
No customization whatsoever either
If the video didnt cut you could MAYBE argue its some esoteric bit theyre doing
But the cut makes it feel genuine
Type of shi wally would conjures up in our nightmares
They had a decoration too close lol
I noticed that the Zenurik Tauron strike doesnt work against enemies converted to allies by Xakus 3. Is that intended or a bug?
feeling evil
best way to foreshadow things for a friend [he's going to do TNW soon]

you get to hang out with your adoptive mom, grandma, and stepdad on a very sunny day
that or talk up how much is riding on the quest, all the people depending on him
Get them to pay attention to the entrati and wally, make sure they know that the copy of them is. Bad
Who do you guys prefer the look of more: Sirius, or Orion?
Mm, Sirius
Angst
Orion since he can be placed there
Sirius
That name has always been the better of the two to me just because it also honors Jade (or that’s what’s implied lol)
trying new colors and wow, this is striking, it looks like the cosmos with her body lol
the dots littered on her legs look like stars
Oh yeah woah
i might have struck gold with this combination, this is peam 
I'm now a cosmic warrior
also just realized what I look like, I'm almost like a captain universe makeup lmao
Yeah im keeping this as config A, this is amazing lol
Could probably used some tweaking but this is shockingly good for a start imo
I am finally, FINALLY, crafting my Voruna prime. I’m ready to go full wolf mommy on my enemies.
Aw yeah I got volcanic edge!
I have a lot of those
That ability makes affected enemies be considered as regular allies, you can't hurt em in general
long coat, cap, computer watch dogs?
Blame Ballas
Can Loid Forger do this though?
mf acting all high and mighty, while there's a prime cowboy behind
good question XD
thought this is a big ass snek
smells like boss fight
unless you shoot them in the face I guess
Probably yes actually
dont you mean a pirate
wtf is this lmao
Loid being a good Butler
how specifically is this made
Tbh he probably could be Aidan after some fighting lessons from Loid
Oh it’s not made he can actually just do that
That’s a fully natural game clip
They might’ve disabled his ability to do it by now tho
Don't you mean regular captain
Hydroid is a pirate, sevagoth isn't
wait what lmfao. where does this happen
During the end of Whispers, when he runs out to the sandy cliff bit with his Zylok Prime
Loid had the ability to doublejump, he's coded internally as an operative
hilarious
He does still have a zylok prime tho
He should get the incarnon
unironically it would be really funny if we get to play Loid like when we played Kahl/Veso/Teshin in New War
and just do all hypercompetent butler memes
give him 4 abilities
no damm way, I got despair, after I brought the stalker pack for it

It eluded me when I want it, and then came to me when I no longer needs it
Live Stalker trolling
Loid calling Necramite to molecularly reassemble the enemy
So what will happen if the wally was defeated, what would happen with a space between the hex,the void, the zariman ship, the tau and other places.
Why would you do that tho
Wally isn't the void
I got impatient, simple as
🚬 such is life
I already got 2/3 weapons and been farming for despair for ages
Despair isn't worth getting impatient over
Well, too late for that 
No weapon except maybe abassador is worth it
I guess, I just wanna collect weapons, I wasn't thinking about getting strong weapons, I already got boatloads of gear waiting to be built rn
Ambassador is annoying to farm
: P Guess we can consider that a poor financial decision
Ambassador main bp doesn't exist
I got the main bp once, sold the whole set for a neat sum
Thankfully, I already got ambassador
Do you have quellor
I have quellor too, but no pennant yet
I got 1 extra copy of quellor bp too lol
Idk where it even drops I just had it one day
one of those rj missions with killing a galleon captain has them iirc
Gallion commanders drop it
Ah i didn't say, that he is void or not, I said what will happen after wally was defeated,what would change at that critical moment .
Find out when DE add future content
oh you can farm sculptures on arbitrations
Yeah
lets gooooooo
thats evil
i picked orion...
its called despair after all
:3 it does tho
yeah well I now hate stalker for this lmao
just give him ptsd as revenge
become a jade main
then go boss rush
we should get a boss rush mode but for all the acolytes with stalker as leader lol
the umbra vanguard or something
mostly so I can feel challenged by them again
I've never seen a single one ever
can you only get diluted thermia from the thermia event??
aw
farming what
They're talking about Despair lol
ooooh
ambassador
that too
probably better with the incarnon
It is, kinda like a pocket Aegrit
actually way better
I enjoy it, but it's not like top tier or anything
Hi guys im trying to get to talk to roathe more but It says I need to do his dungeon more how many times do you need to do it to talk to him instead of voice notes?
21 times
So its not good?
Daym okay
have to beat him in the fight 21 times total, you do not need to do the entire descendia each time
Oh, uhh Descendia is weird when it comes to KIM
Basically you need to fight Roathe 21 times
But the voice messages can overwrite your daily conversation with Roathe
DE's never managed to fix that
So u lose dialogue or u gotta wait a day?
The latter
Facilis Descensus Averno is for solo SP
The specific Warframe titles are separate
Dante, Harrow, Wisp, Uriel get Honoria but you can do them in a squad
Can any of you tell me why I have anathema with Marie even tho I am in a relationship with her and haven't made her hate me at all?
I am best friends with Roathe/Lyon
like this was my last convo with her
did I do something wrong or?
IIRC, it doesn't always mean you've done something wrong. Certain progression paths are tied to interactions with the others.
But I am at the last conversations for our KIM messages
I just hope I don't get locked out and have to reset again
Oh wait, talking to Lyon again, do we know someone who took their own life? Or is it just the text
optional flavor
This means she will date you.
yayy
should I do only 21 last stage or do I need all 4 times fully in squad.
fully
That means 2 hours in fast runs or 4 hours in slow runs.
Hm normal or steel path.
Just do it once a week as part of your normal weekly rotation
hm ok i do it today 4 time runs.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HE IS FREDDY FAZBEAR
which is the best Perita Rebellion gamemode to grind for Uriel blueprint ressources ?
whichever you feel the boss is faster to clear, thats it
oh it just changes the boss
yeap, you either fight 6 warframes, a goober who crawls and flies or a goober who flies and flies somemore
The 6 Warframes are probably the quickest of the bosses
You know, I haven't found a frame that I really vibe with yet. I'm hoping Sirius (or the constellations, depending on if they're the same frame or not) will fit my preferences
what is your vibe
iirc orion and Sirius are confirmed to be two different frames
Sadly, we tried that, but he's more of a Gauss fan than I am, and I don't really like Grendel's playstyle or appearance T-T
Give an example
I like the looks of Excalibur Umbra, but I haven't found a frame's abilities that I really like
Let me check my most played frames to see if I find something
This is probably the most accurate list of frames I've enjoyed playing, but I would change a few around. For instance: Dante would probably be much lower as well as Garuda (I REALLY tried to like Garuda, but I just couldn't enjoy the playstyle) and for Dante, you just kinda apply overguard and use the slashes, which isn't very engaging for me personally. I like to be engaged in the combat
Would Harrow or Lavos be more up your alley?
Kullevero, Voruna, or Baruuk?
If you have a ton of forma them sevagoth?
Probably Lavos. And I did in fact make the mistake of Subsuming Kullevero before playing him
I like Sevagoth's nuke...ness, I just haven't been able to get him to stop running out of energy (also, while I like his looks, I prefer something more... human looking? I also like knights, which is why I think I'll like Sirius
There should be a good build out there to help with his energy problems
I'd suggest Harrow due to how simplistic his obtainment is (except defection)
Excalibur
Could be that you just weren’t using Garuda right yk
Yeah that’s generally just a build issue
You need some efficiency or a method of energy regen
meh
thats suprising
valk got a rework i remember
She did but her gameplay is
Very
Simple
1 for mobility
2 when 4 is active
3 for crowds
Always run 4
