#spoiler-chat
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huh..
Yes, Void beams can in fact blind a person
rell happened
Tbh it’s never actually stated to be Rell
People assume that
it's a logical assumption
oh jeez..
would be weird to have the "blinded, she cast him out" otherwise
A logical assumption can be any of the 1000+ kids could’ve done it
Blinded she cast him out can legit be after she was blinded she picked the one kid with least emotional control to kick out so it never happens again
man
DE refuse to tell us who actually did it
i can't WAIT to get back to tau in the present time~
Is there a reason despite choosing natah old peace and I think refractory are lotus
Model size issues
Natah model wouldn’t fit
which would just be stupid
..mayhaps
That. Was a long ass quest
It’s a regular quest length
i mean
i love it when i went doomguy on the orokin dudes at the last segment
and don't get me started with excal prime pulling a raiden onto that gundam
kinda wish shit's longer lol
8.5/10
What?
We didnt kill any orokin
We might've hurt innocents civilian sentients
uh.. on the grineer and sentient i meant
But we didn't harm any orokin
i slimed that ordis looking drone thingy btw
We saved that for later
Ironically, that would be the opposite of what doomguy would do lol
why was my operator so mad tho, it ain't that big of a deal dayumn
couldn't bro just chill lol
Man is an angry dude but he is incredibly controlled over his anger, very unlike what happened to the operator
Watching your friend die for something you caused isn’t a big deal?
sounds like a classic case of skill issue to me-

🗿
Okay so watching your friend's species get genocided isnt a big deal?
Sounds like you’ve never heard of the 5 stages of grief
i mean
Don't say anything dumb.
couldn't they have just, u know, dodged? 
Couldn’t you have just not destroyed the flowers?
The very important flowers
🗿
he couldve been cast out for being neurodivergent
think he was
theyre more susceptible to being bullied (which rell was) and the other tenno couldve given margulis a bad idea of his character
i mean they straight up didnt want rell to hide with them when the zariman disaster happened they didnt care if he lived or not
yknow, the more i think about it, rell seems the type to look at joker and laugh, "one bad day" my ass"
puts you safe and sound in the friendship pocket
stalker mentioned obligitory tally of who needs what drop from him
Yeah as bad as it is, i can genuinely see abelistic Margulis
it seemed to be generally a thing for the orokin empire to be like
they yassified my tragic yaoi- i cant believe this
the last one made me laugh- thank you
especially with how she was caring for all tenno at once you cant expect her to treat all of them fairly
and the zariman probably had like a million people on it, like at least a small country worth
void outburst i think?
treating ONE unfairly is weird tho
"i think loid would be a little worried seeing me in my sentient form"
Loid wouldn’t care tbh
Pretty sure he saw it if you had that skin equipped on her in Jade Shadows anyway
Nah, he knows full well who she is
Hes more concerned on how to make the poor woman comfortable lol
Hence the chair and ottoman
As any good butler would
Who do you think would’ve been more loyal in Old Peace between Loid and Ordis if they swapped places
-# + what's said right after,
-# Rell: "Mmm. My fault. Touching is too much noise. It makes me... makes me... angry."
daklo
oh yeah he litteraly saw our memories i think during old peace
I forget that part but yea
so hes touch sensitive- why would we not have him in the pod of sensory exclusion then?
Because Margulis cast him out
"blinded, she cast him out"
"my fault"
naaaaaah there's no way he blinded her, no evidence towards it whatsoever
He’s still not saying what is his fault could be any number of things
chains implies that rell did it, though isleweaver implies the player tenno did it
i always want to mention both, as it is unclear which is 'correct' between the two
i'm not sure which would be better narratively
wally is not the most trustworthy source tbf
he's also talking to the wrong version of the operator there lol
Operator is still watching
It’s funny to think currently operator is just going through everything bad with going back in time and everything with that and then we have drifter chilling in 1999 dating and eating peacefully in that mall lol
At least we know who the fav child is lol
i can imagine the operator grumbling after having to go after YET ANOTHER CODA because the drifter saw something he wanted
Dont u dare compare my goat with that bum ahh butler
They are both Goats
Only if we talking about necraloid
I miss just calling him loid
Necraloid is terrible at his job
Necraloid slander? Jade light this bum
“Thanks for the heart cells, now I can finally buy a new coda weap-”
“They have viral and blast resistance”
"Finally, with Loid back among us, we have a true example of what it means to serve."
Doesnt operator also get it though idk why he would be mad much?
Unless drifter deadass gakekeeps it😭
Nah bro necraloid >>>>>>> loid
He's only using it for hellscrub
I’m trusting Mother who has known both longer than you
THE AGENDA... THE AGENDA IS REEEEEAAAAAALLLLL!!!!!!
Loid is better than Necraloid and I have evidence
Vosfor makes me plat
Necraloid makes me 0 plat
Plus
Where was Necraloid in Old Peace
He did nothing at all for the entire quest
Lazy construct
Counter point where was loid in heart of deimos? Being a lazy bum sleeping
Counterpoint
Loid has done more things canonically than Necraloid
List all the things Necra has done and Loid has still done more
Counterpoint necraloids job aint making shi. Thats like saying a plumber is worse than a electrical engineer
Cause de wants to glaze him for nothing
They dont? 😭
Lol thats why necra leaves mid whispers
"go be with the family"
necraloid replaced loid as servant of the family
they're both butlers
Necra’s job is to look after the family
Loids job was to look after the family and wait for us
They both butler's but that dont mean they have the same duties
They had the same duties
Buh
Once Albrecht put Loid to sleep to wait for us Necra was made to do the things Loid did
originally but not anymore, necraloid serves the family upstairs, and wakes loid, loid now manages the cavia, labs and kalymos protocol
Exactly
That was true until after KIM chats
Loid went upstairs
They now do the exact same thing
Loid is just better at it
Necra is a bit limited
Read this again
"Finally, with Loid back among us, we have a true example of what it means to serve."
nah that's clearly not referring to butler duties
He physically can just do more
i cant put into words how much i like roathe in there
Just realized hunhow in the back
but its drifter that gets to buy it technically- not operator- though operator gets them too
Yeah it probably means that loid just does what hes told more instead of necraloid who does stuff behind mother's back
Another W for the og
dont think he can gatekeep the arsenal-
He finds a way
I can gatekeep the Arsenal
L for loid though. Bum needs to focus on his sanctum duties why would he just do the same stuff necra was already doing if necra isnt taking over some sanctum duties
waiting for you to get your butt down there and shoo away the spooky void hands trying to get all in the origin system
Loid does all necraloid does nw
Necra is taking over a sanctum duty
Also does anyone know if drifter can still control duviri or if he lost his control after giving it back to thrax and cant get it back
EDA
Can’t remember
he gave it back to thrax but since drifter managed to gain control of it he could probably do so again if needed
not without another conflict
Drifter at the end tells Thrax
“You can have it”
as long as thrax remembers whos really got the power
Drifter honestly didn’t want it
Would teshin be dead if drifter aint loop it
Teshin would be dead if Drifter didn’t sit on the throne and slam fist
Drifter reading all the lore before talking in kim so he can larp like he been part of origin system from day 1
"woah youre so learned!" drifter with albrechts pom-2 in the back
i wonder if the tenno just shrugs it off or is slightly terrified that the pom-2 seemingly was able to spy and write down their entire journey
Drifter had to read all the books before doing POM-2 stuff because they say stuff that only Operator witnessed
perhaps they find comfort in the fact that it no longer seems to be watching them
dw wally is still here, always lurking and watching when we least expect it 😇
I’m surprised Wally doesn’t call Drifter a dealbreaker for gaining powers
He seems really chill about it
has to be his plan all along
drifter i feel exists in a blindspot in wallys vision
i mean he def has orchestrated ballas opening the portal which granted wally far more of a presence
which required for the paradox to happen
Nah, Ballas just did that anyway
Wally just took advantage of it
ah
I doubt Rell would’ve been able to hold back post New War Wally
Rell was able to do it to a weaker Wally
wally orchestrated us taking on rells mantle that is 100% the case though
Didnt ballas open a portal at the start of new war? How did he do that without the energy from the sun
portal to tau through the void and portal to void, different levels of energy
i was talking about the tau one
Nah, morso he’s the reason it happened that way
It wasn’t something he planned
If we opened a portal to tau wouldnt that help wally
if he even needed that energy at all or just wanted to scuttle the system because he's whiny and jealous
he worked on getting rid of rell
Hes not aizen son
He already controlled harrow atp too
While true he didn’t care what happened after
worded this one poorly
depends on how, i think ballas was using the sun to freely jump to tau, where as our plan is to reconnect the rail and use that instead
you missed the joke
Scrap
Someone in another Warframe server I’m in said German people don’t get jokes
Is it true?
I'm not a reliable source for that, my jokes are too complicated for others and I'm too autistic to count as an average german in that regard
lol
Depends what they mean by a joke at the moments of conversations and their behaviour at being in what mood they be that day.
so when will we see wally again.
Probably Tau 2026
Unless DE announce another quest before then
Jade Shadows 2 shouldn’t have anything to do with Wally
Wally KIM romance
ok now with punctuation?
This voice line kills me every time - like what do you MEAN, bb?! Is this supposed to be one of your weird, but endearing innuendos? Or are you literally talking about places to hang out? ...and where is "up there"?!?!!! Can't be the orbiter, because you can't GET to the orbiter!!! This voice line lives rent free in my head, and I must know what he means! I need to know where "up there" is!!! 😭
Orbiter wouldn’t even be up
Where is he talking bout-
ceiling
Why he up there
Are we boinking in the ceiling? Is he talking about hiding up there with his little gameboy...?! I must know these things! lol
Both
He must know of a secret hidey hole big enough to hang out. I just see concert and supports. 😂
he fast
he run up wall
he get stuck on ceiling beam
LOL! I could see that.
I'm just like, PLEASE! Point this mysterious "up there" space out to me! I wish to see what space you speak of, because I don't see it my dear!
If DE ever adds more idling places in the backroom, put Amir "up there".
Interesting
yuh :3
This feels like a weird reward for the operation. Like, I feel bad for new players who won't get this (until the operation reruns) because this feels like a good reward for the base "quest" of collecting 1200 atramentum
Eh make it available in the market for plat
Albrecht watching as his base for his 1999 shenanigans is used to boink on the ceiling 
Someone here may or may not know, but I'm mid convo with Roathe, and I've hit a point where there is a marker called "Check boolean RoatheUnloved1" and there is an unloved2 coming up.
I've already reset the triad once because my run bugged out/I broke it somehow. And I'm trying to be extra careful in how I move forward now. Does anyone know what those flags mean/will do?
I like to think he may possibly approve of that. He is Orokin after all!
Hrm.... Roathe's profile now says this (but I'm not sure what that last line means - and now I'm worried. lol):
Did you reset before
Yeah, like I said above - it unfortunately bugged out/I broke it and hit a dead end. I had to reset it.
I think I was already heading down the wrong path there, since I wanted him to be the one to reunite the family. But I borked it (I think) by the fact that he's rank changed to close, I started dating him and finished all 21 runs the same day, got the consent chat the next day (dating Amir), and then got thrown straight to the 3rd convo instead of getting the initial rake 5 convo.
I did... took a week to get an answer, then almost a week to get a response again when I reexplained the issue.
Got the same answer both times - which wasn't helpful/relevant.
So if it breaks again, I'm just going to reopen it and ask for a full reset.
my teammates keep leaving me in conclave....
They all have to agree for the reunion iirc so I dont think it really matters
Yeah, the other two were on board and ready to go. I just wanted everyone to be onboard. But he also just flat out broke and stopped talking to me/talked to me as if I had made a promise already. Soooooooooooooooo... yeah.
And even though I sent so much info/screen shots in my ticket, they basically responded saying "Your run says you have completed desendia 6 times - keep going to continue the story." Yeah... I was miffed. No duh, I reset the run - thanks for confirming that I DO have to rerun everything, but you didn't answer any of my questions about how it's going to flag/go since I fell into a false cascade and then the convos went splat. lol
So I'm just running it. Still scared to do all 21, not sure if it will break it again or not. Or if I'm okay.
I stopped at 18 currently.
Eventually he should be like "your progress in descendia isn't enough" or something
You could still go forward as long as you don't promise him to not go further into his memories I think
Yeah that's where it messed up last time because I think I triggered too many things at one time (oops).
I have the "show all KIM convos" selected this time - so no possible way for it to skip anything.
So then I should, in theory, be okay then? Since I shouldn't get the promise convo yet even if I hit 21..? (does that sound right?)
I believe so but the triad is so convoluted 😭
It really is.. and my husband MERACULOUSLY stumbled his way through PERFECTLY. (I hate him sometimes.... I always break everything.)
Did the fingertips of the giant golems that Entrati was making always have this blueish tinge or is that new?
Is this one in the Sanctum, the one that's doing the embrace?
Because that was briefly possessed so it could just be a result of that
I don't think we see the hands of any others
The just vessles have em lol, check the vessles in any lab tile that has em
Nvm then ignore what I said
The simulacrum version has one iirc
They got their nails done :) french tips!!!
French tips? And people said the Triad didn't have foreshadowing, smh
This looks like either a graphical error or Follie’s ink lol
They are usually gold yeah
what does this do?
You put it on your orbiter
decoration?
Separate thing, you go to where you'd choose your landing craft and you put it on there
oh?
It's like a hood ornament
example (I don't have the Nightwave one unlocked yet)
lovely ship colors
TY! Used the default liset skin so it's clearer, but I normally have the Prime one equipped
Here's the Voruna Prime Access Sumdali
Oooooo i wish i had that
Here it is with my skin
whoa. Where'd you get all that?
Regal Aya bought with Real world currency, from Varzia's Prime Resurgence
I'm not sure it's currently available
Voruna Prime Access is currently live so it's available for purchase, but again, accessories are IRL currency only
iirc the prime liset is tied to valkyr prime?
or maybe that's just the prime operator suit
are all those bits on the side tsomething you put on the ship? Or is that part of the skin?
Part of the skin
oooh
it sucks that prime weapons dont come with orokin catalysts but i get why they dont
i just realized how many players dont know how to trade and are stuck having to get their orokin catalysts or reactors from something like nightwave. Those poor people
why is lotus stuck like that
Remember the hand that Ballas chopped off?
That's the only real part of her left
The rest is a hard light projection
shes supposed to be sitting 😭
new tnw bug
||Isn’t that what she looks like that early on?||
Oh wait now I see it, it does look like she's levitating two meters in the air
Idk before I gave her the crystal she was sitting fine but after she tried to bite me then she floated 
ok ok personally the propaganda song was so beautifully sung in my opinion HATE blue balls but it was nice
Dont you love your golden lord?

what a kind man for liberating the origin system
my favorite part of it all
HE COPYED PLANKTON
YOU CANT TELL ME IT WASNT THE SAME
should i touch the snake or the wolf archon first
i think ill do that
Amar cant use gimmicks on the final fight
I just noticed it
I dont think he threw clones if hes the final fight
Boreal keeps the screw you lightning anyways
i think i died at least 30+ times fighting him it was the teleporting too that got me mad
what the helly is that thing
am i gonna fight that thing
Frien :)
Didn't you already?
Fairly sure the one in the screenshot isnt the rolypoly
how does one make this room look good
mmmm hands
huh
it says it’s just a dormant sentient
We definetely have no clue what that is
Pc-91 mixed it with something else
AI Search
DISREGARD

then what is it?
Compare the number of hands here with the rolypoly
We have no idea
We have never fought it
it’s nothing as of now but maybe something that they’ll make come along later at some point
Does anyone know why the white tree roots associates with somatic pods and that show up during rising tide at the reliquiary drive arent at the drive when u play railjack? Is it just a really old bug they never fixed or what?
I'd say bug yeah
Or possibly just they didnt bother to properly rig a post cutscene railjack
im lost
Hi lost
does my choice here affect anything
it just chooses who you play as for the final part of the quest [after this]
nothing else and its just who do you prefer more
Driftah
or Operatah
aight
Real ones know operator is the right choice
Realer ones driftah
Drifter 4 life
I like adult character customization
Operator is our day 1
Drifter helped us like once and then ran off to go date some long dead people
"Lets larp" ahh
But [THEY] has better customization and operator looks a bit weird without alot of plat
Tbf a lot of the characters look weird especially in cutscenes. I think its a game thing with how their faces move or something.
Love ur grammer btw "they has"
Lowkirkenuinely just keep that dam mask on
damn did I attack you personally or something?
Also I heard that u could customize lotus with the other choices for plat is that true?
Not a requirement
U fixed it to they but not have 😔 🥀
its funnier that way tho
Ur sense of humor is worse than me who finds juan funny
Because DE rarely has quest requirements above the bare minimum 💔
Sometimes its great but others it is to a detriment
remember you can do the old peace [content] after the teacher
after Vors prize lol
this was a conscious choice
Xata...
How does that play out the spoilers are kinda
Important
Do they just remove all transmissions or what
it censors the spoilerly bits I believe
like transmissions or something
???????
What?
They let you play descendia and Perita Recalls
WHO DECIDED THAT MAKES SENSE
wait no thats cap asf
It's like when they had the Exterminate Demo for 1999
Ye cause I did teacher before old peace and didnt get refractory
Lowkirkenuinely imagine if they awarded Excalibur prime to all players after they complete old peace 🥹
Because almost nobody cares about plot and developers let people get the taste of the endgame content with that
Yeah sounds right
It's a horrible idea honestly in my opinion but it is what it is
That's why they made it
Like letting duviri be done before new war lol
It's also part of the issue with the early game being boring as shit in comparison to the newer content shown in the adverts
Yeah 💔 thats why I despise the YouTube scene for this game
Its not a healthy ecosystem its all out of balance
A healthy youtube scene has multiple niches not just "this weapon can kill LEVEL CAP with 2 mods" or something 😭
Imo it doesn't make sense to allow access to the new content cause they gotta do old content eventually and most new content aint beginner friendly
Theres like 5 people on youtube who talk lore and I trust a whole, 2 of them
Stallord (who doesn't really post anymore) and grayarchon (YouTube isnt the main thing)
There's like 20 people in this discord server and i trust maybe 2
It's moreso for "I wanna do this with my friends" because new players cant run pubs there
Still like
Anything but making early game fun
I mean completing start chart could prob be done in like 30 hours
What do new players even join to play?
Idk you'd have to ask
Where do I find new players buh
No, but it’s got the natah bit
I asked a friend who joined in like the past 2-3 years and they said there was some old content they liked and 1999. But also the story
Basically old stuff was fine for them
But they got spoiled by duviri
what the helly did i just kill the wolf archon in like 10 secs
yay im done with the new war
How was it?
rather easy ngl
just got confused at a few parts and some scenes were....
yeah
the wolf archon wasnt really that annoying
as first fight or
which one is orion and which one is sirius?
ok, thank u, i thought name colors were the other way around but i guess it's been a long time i just forgor
yup, watch where she's sitting
she's magnetized on the top of the transference box instead of lazing on it
apparently a common bug bc i saw my friend also has that + the oily skin look at the end of the quest
Easy way to remember Orion=Hunter=Stalker=Red
it'd be really funny if after all this hype and debate of sirius/orion being two different warframes or one warframe with a toggle DE just turned it all into an equinox rework
So like an orangutan vs serious cash?
It really is odd that Ballas seemingly never experimented with warframes birthing other warframes. It really strikes me as something that he would have done "because Ballas". Shouldn't there be more of these sorts of "natural" warframes pre-transference bolt?
it takes too long
and they still need to grow up, which wasn't really an option in the middle of a war
Takes too long in terms of Jade? Because that was artificial, "to keep [her] preserved as she is"
Then again, that could also be assuming Orion/Sirius takes human years to grow up.
You could apply some grineer cloning techniques to speed up growth, maybe.
That's an uneducated guess though
We don’t have much info on if that would work
That figures on the latter
Still, it doesn't make sense why there aren't more of these "natural" warframes.
Because their organs are warped
Can't exactly get pregnant if your uterus is now half way across your body
That makes sense for citrine and other frames with more odd structures, but the infestation can be made to keep those structures intact
Are they rendered sterile then?
Pretty much id say
I dont think they have such granular control over the helminth strain that they can necessarily guaranteed that the pregnant person would come out having the baby or the capacity for pregnancy intact
Ballas had a lot of control over helminth
We have a lot of control over helminth
He had more ofc, he designed 90% of the roster
What I'm reading from that statement feels like it's disproven by jade's existence.
Maybe I'm reading that incorrectly...
Helminth is basically a domesticated strain, still infested but you can actually work with it to make the frames
Or in our case, mildly edit them
Again, frames were designed
I mean yeah but im basically saying they dont have absolute control over helminth to the same degree as say, how the orokin could edit their bodies to whatever they please.
Wouldn’t they?
They were masters of biology and used the infestation for a lot
They clearly didn’t have complete control but if Ballas could ensure the frames can’t speak then I’m sure he can have it so other things don’t operate as they used to
Jade was purpose built to retain the baby because she got pregnant before hand
Which. Even then
It's why I ask why we don't see more children of warframes, assuming they don't have full control of biology and infestation. Sorta breeding frames to create new frames.
If he can make it so they can’t speak he can make it so they can’t reproduce
Theres more nuance to it than the idea one warframe could give birth
It’s also possible that’s just not how the infestation works
It doesn’t “breed”
It spreads
The protoframes have it because. They're not fully transformed, I imagine they don't have much of the normally required organs to do it
Yeah i think its amir kim that mentions quincy doing the deed and it got amir wanting to tell him he can hear it
Also when you cut warframes open it. Probably is just meat soup
Think like how a bug works
Umbra?
I know he’s special but he’s got a vestigial face lol
He is a good example actually
The infestation would have to do survival of the fittest eventually, which eventually requires mutations/crossbreeding
We know from Alad that even when you cut one up it doesn’t make sense
Everything else on that helm is meat soup
Unless the infestation is just that omnipresent that it knows how to mutate to adapt.
That entirely depends on what it even is
The infestation is not just an organic lifeform, it interfaces and subsumes tech, code, even a Cephalon one time
Ehhh. Cross-breeding does exist but its. Probably from a genetic point, not actually crossbreeding
It reminded me of these ballas quotes on their biology
Read last paragraph
"...But only just. Their skin blossomed into sword-steel. Their organs, interlinked with untold resilience. Yet their minds were free of the Infested madness. Or so we thought. We set them upon the battlefield, bio-drones under our command."
is there a redo or some way i could.... idk recover?
So their internals are definitely massively revamped
Yeah idk if that applies to down there
And
Again
He designed them, he can choose that to some extent lol
Its overall a useless set of organs
There is a full reset
go on.
Why spend energy on its function when you can force it to go vestigial
Click the book
This isnt a problem, he's just opinionated about it but this convo doesnt really do anything iirc
Anything to hurt your chances or romance
book?
Which makes sense
Still makes me wonder though....
If, at all.
But realistically its just not beneficial at all to have warframes breed
On the taskbar
I believe it’s a book
But like they’re saying you don’t need to
Just to be clear my reply is meant for thomas's meat soup thing, Im just remarking that ballas has some lines about their internals
uuuuh
also they?
oh
Might be in settings
Ah
Ye
I mean Umbra has internals
If you don’t see it don’t worry about it
It took upwards of a thousand years to get sirus/Orion, and it resulted in the progenitor's death
i just am kinda bummed out i didnt get the perfect dialogue options
i hate choice games. Choices are hard
Honestly why would you limit oneself to conventional breeding as masters of biology like the orokin, just take samples from them and use artificial wombs to mass produce, thats one idea on top of the dome
And it did sound like Ballas planned that to some extent
Maybe

clone rot
You’ll be fine dw
plus i really wanna romance arthur
Im not sure he entirely prepared for the baby to actually exist tho lol
i'm just worried....
Maybe he thought they would die with her
I mean, true per his head cosmetics but umbra is pretty exceptional in terms of circumstances so idk if that applies for everyone that theyll have like, eyes if you dissect them
I don’t think you need to be yet
Yeah, seemed to be the plan
Okay that sentence did NOT help. YET?!?!?
He’s only exceptional due to his bolt though?
You can fail
I doubt you will, just treat him like a person
Oh and talk to Quincy for advice
And he also was made to relive his horrible memory for eternity too
That’s the bolt lol
its kinda hard to because the normal thing i'd say in this situation isnt available
Do the best you can
Tbf you cant actually fail the hex, just fail the romance
If you’re really stressing about it a simulacrum of the chats does exist
But i recommend not using it yet
well i definitely want that date with arthur
I didnt mess up on any of the hex lol
Best protos 
Xata..
Theres a line for when you fail romance for any hex, if that isnt there. You are safe
the nonexistant date
I should dye my hair like Flare's actually
||There’s a smooch||
wasnt there supposed to be a date?
YOOOOO
not for the hex
I WANT THAT ||SMOOCH||
Maybe later tho
Watch me become the mix of all my favourite characters
I don't deal in maybes
The og talk prior to that line is about why there arent more natural warframes like jade and her child, sirius/orion during the orokin empire, the idea isnt actually to clone them, but to stimulate the process of pregnancy and birth of warframes to create original, natural born warframes
but why
Its just spitballing so im not standing too hard on it
there's
no actual benefit
Dont ask me on that, im not the one who started that topic, it was but one remark in a long line of previous talking, im neutral to the idea anyway
It started as an inquiry then we debated its merits
yea I half started it
I still don't see a reason for it
sirion aren't actually shown to be any more powerful than other frames yet
If their trailer is 100% canon then they’re up there
Right now, id say its about the novelty of their existence that would caught the current factions' eyes, since there wouldnt be any other living example of a baby born from a warframe im aware of rn.
If Uranus actually breaks due to them in-game
Damn
Also this too, they got pretty impressive showings from there but we shall see how it will pan out
They are the only example
And nobody really knows about it
Actually wait does anyone else beside maybe the corpus who would know
Yeah i was gonna ask sth like that lol
I kinda hope it’s somewhat canon, if not just for the uranus scene
Nope
That’s probably another reason why the corpus are involved
Maybe
We shall see
But idk how much we’ll get on that tbh
can the infested even normally get pregnant, dont they come from spores
based
Even aside from that they just aren’t a typical lifeform
What eats code?
well, ai probably
I eat code
Computers eat code
Void eats human code
Don’t think they had that in 1998
true
low capability AI has existed for a long while
okay sisters of parvos are genuinely easier to kill
Hounds are much better for murmurs than thralls
Each one they made it easier
You get one full hound and a hound part yeah
man the tetra is kinda ass, but we'll see
Lua jr
why are these not the same?
Why should they be? They are similar but still unique
because they are the same gun but this gun in the game isnt the same one as its icon
they are both the braton vandal and the picture on the right is the icon being used to represent the gun on the left
Probably just got revamped and they forgot to change the icon
the magazine is also gone on the icon and the magazine on the actual gun doesnt move when reloading. Man this thing is weird
blame old warframe being a mess
Back in the day the braton had a corpus stylized model
Before sometime ago it was updated to be more in-line with the tenno aesthetic
Hello, was the entire Duviri Paradox quest supposed to fly over my head or should I have paid more attention to the stories or something? It felt like I (the player) was the only one who didn't know what was happening.
Have you done the new war yet?
Entirely depends
Yes.
replay the new war
I played the new war yesterday.
Sure, I saw some scenes from TNW, but didn't see how they were related to anything.
Do you remember the Zariman parts of it?
The one where they share food and the drifte was actually talking to Teshin for some reason?
The flashback with the class rooms?
About eternalism? Yeah, that was explained in TNW itself. But that was just alternate universes, not time travel.
yes
you're one realization away
drifter isn't from the future
Yes, they said so in TNW, they are from an alterate universe where hey didn't become tenno. There was no new information in duviri.
Duviri paradox is literally the process of drifter escaping duviri
Starting with a certain hand that fell from the sky
A hand that looks reeeaaaally similar to a hand that was chopped off in new war?
duviri is about how drifter even got to the operator's reality
Oh, I thought the hand was the only thing left from the guy who got crushed by a meteor.
The hand wasn't the only thing that fell though, there should have been an eidolon and a child with it.
Like old people
If the entire quest took place in the timeskip before Narmer then it doesn't make sense how the tenno were supposedly helping the drifter when they were too busy disappearing, unless they were dissapearing to go help the drifter.
The only things that reached duviri were teshin and lotu's hand
Yes that was our teshin
duviri paradox
operator is helping after tnw
Yeah, that was one of the few things that was clear.
edit: to Deltasaber
Yeah the paradox is both need the other to escape their "prisons"
Wanna know something cool?
Time doesnt exist in the void :)
Welcome to eternalism, the hell that is a theory of time that makes every theory crafter act denser than a brick
insert roathe eternalism image
While one thing can be happening in one timeline, a separate timeline will be further forward
Is it just multiverse theory?
Should I assume that the entire duviri gamemode (what you unlock after the quest) takes place before the drifter arrives to our Earth?
Those take place during the loops of Duviri
Everytime you complete the mode time loops back thanks to Thrax
no that's drifter going back
Isn't that explained at the end of the quest?
At the end of the quest you gain freedom and leave
When you replay the original 3 mode types it's you going back to before you escaped explaining why you still have the hand on you which you don't in New War
But you are given the option to stay or leave since you are no longer bound to Duviri
But the canon answer always ends up as you do leave eventually
Even if not straight away
Acrithis seems to imply you're coming and going, I felt
does anybody know anything about the market? I wanna know how to sell a riven
riven prices are the one thing that's entirely up to seller preference
ah...
darn.
how do i buy a riven?
find someone selling one
how
Market or tradechat
how do you do it in the market?
also i'm told never to use trade chat
There's a tab for rivens
oh just to be clear, it's not the in-game market, it's warframe.market
ye i knew
im there but i dont see a buy option or a send message to seller option
you mean to the seller directly? Isnt that a bad idea to pay full price for something like that?
Ooh flower
nah
Why?
because I doubt you plan to pay 1000s of plat for a mod for one weapon
just buy the cheapest one and reroll it yourself
so why 300?
300 is not cheap to me
i cant make that much in a day let alone a week
oh sorry i was looking at a different thingy
although 75 is still a lot, arent there 0 bids?
Yummers
CAST AND CRY 🗣️
CAST AND CRY 🗣️
if there's 0 bids then wouldnt it be a good idea to go low so i can get it cheaper?
it's under most popular
yeah?
which means it's being bid on, you just can't see it
?
75 is very cheap
Broke
your point?
Mood
my point is 75 may as well be 75,000
i cant make that much. I dont know how
start sellin augments
isnt it a bad idea to tell me
no
I've sold prime parts that I have no use for in the bazaar
augments always go for about 20p, never changes
prime junk is also a good source, especially during baro time
besides, I don't engage with the market unless I absolutely have to
hmmmm...
isnt that only 1 platinum per piece? Wouldnt it be better to sell more rare stuff since you can only make so many trades per day?
you set the price, but prime junk just refers to anything that isn't full sets
ah i thought you meant stuff that sells for 1 plat, like common parts
step 1 of economy: learn the terminology
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they've become slightly more creative,,
in every channel
My attempt to make fun of scam bots has failed because of the automod and it’s way funnier
Is this why the Orokin hated AI?
No it’s because of this
Also was disappointed to see this year's merch pack doesn't have a relic
Is this
?
At least it's not being advertised with one yet.
Probably just forgot to add it but you’ll still get it
Nah nothing mentioned
Did 2024 have one?
Ah, nope
Neither did 2023 (but it had a Clem Floof)
I remember seeing someone with relics of each era but maybe those were just custom made, then.
Must not be a guaranteed thing then
Might skip buying this year's then
I mean I only ever bought last year's and that was in person, but still
Considering IIRC DE is against gen-AI, that translator probably got fired after being caught.
mhm
that contractor was removed pretty quickly iirc
haven't heard anything about it after, but i'd assume they got someone to look through and improve the translations after that
apparently they'd been low quality since jade shadows
Tenno, we saw the original post on r/memeframe and immediately went to our localization team to figure out what happened this morning. The use of any generative AI in Warframe (and Soulframe) is prohibited within Digital Extremes and understandably the team and the community are trying to source out if this is a broad problem or a case where someone (mistakenly) consulted ChatGPT. The nature of the copy paste makes it seem conversational “ChatGPT Said” and we searched the RU language for other cases and found only this one. It has been fixed and will be deployed in the next Hotfix early next year. We are also reading concerns overall about translations which we have taken internally as well. We will have more to share once we have concluded how this occurred, due to holidays it might not be until the new year but we are doing a full investigation and review, and have re-emphasized and shared our stance on this (both here and internally).
- Reb
Haha
The funniest possible interpretation is that Albrecht loaded Chatgpt onto his POM II and Marie's using it to type in Russian
Would Russian in Warframe still be called Russian, I wonder?
I think the country is called Rus, or at least Velimir calls it that
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Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!
did i do something wrong? Wtf???
i hate this text chat part. Someone please tell me what to do
it's just infuriating
Well you're not alone, this is one of the 'minefield' convos
really?
so i'm not the only one that got frustrated when i picked the wrong choice?
In an update that introduced new KIM chats, they had one for Eleanor where she talks about being a minefield
This was directly in response to players feeling that way
is there any way i can get help on this? This is such an unfun part of the game for me
There's a website called browse.wf which have the KIMulacrum
Basically they have all the chats + flowcharts of all the different branches
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarframeRunway/s/wGCBQgXanW
Bro face looks like a madness combat grunt
will there be a way i can reset all the chats?
Judging from this though, you didn't really pick any bad options
There is
Right here
Its The grimoire option iirc, should be in the same interface as the kim
what the heck?
i dont see that book on the taskbar
Might need to progress further.
i heard that if i dont do this chat stuff, i wont get a "good ending" or something
Maybe wait for New Years, or maybe do the finale, maybe meet the other batches.
The main thing is chemistry, so even if you mess up chats, as long as you do them you still get a fair bit.
how do i level up chemistry?
Make sure to give them gifts daily, as well as Bounties
does the type of gift matter?
Bounties with each Hex member
Gifts
Chats
I think all give some minor chemistry but if you give each member specific gifts, you can get more
go on
There are notes in their profile, and that should be hints toward the gifts they favor
Oh and if you're just wanting chemistry, you'll want to turn this setting off
i see
can i know directly?
The wiki might document that
i see
Give Arthur cooking stuff + that intercom thingy
Give Eleanor writing stuff + plant stuff
Give Lettie coffee
Give Amir gaming/tech stuff
Give Aoi Music + engineering +motorcycle stuff
Give Quincy cellphones, Entrati Posters, and the soldier DVD
this is very helpful. Thank you
If you see the heart, it means they like it
gotcha
Quincy liking entrati posters sound odd until you realize he shoots at them as target practice
uuuuuuuhhh....
Yeah it's easier to use the convo locator first
Just type in the first message they say
?
Yeah that
Bro.
n that's just the hex
I didn't say it was straightforward
wait does this include the WHOLE dialogue throughout the entire thing? ends and starts?
idk how else to say it
The flowchart includes every branch of this dialogue
Including booleans (tags) from other chats
So for example if you mentioned "Hey I like ice cream / I don't like ice cream" in another chat, this will be checking for the "DrifterLikeIceCream" boolean, and have branches if that's true or false
should see it on mobile
NO
best way to find certain voidplumes? Specifically crests?
Am I stupid for never realizing the maws had a statue form
if you are, we both are
i knew the top bit was the maw.. maw
but i never really connected the bottom piece to it
anybody?
don't think there's a trick to finding specific ones
i usually just use the orokin eye air support to mark any nearby. though the zariman's innate 'lost spirits' also lead you to them afaik
drifter kogake in simulacrum
What’s the operator suit from the first pic?
templar prime maybe?
how do i get eye air support
tied to the parallax landing craft, can get the blueprints from rare crates on the zariman
Varida
oh....
Arms are manduka iirc
i'm gonna have a hard time, arent i?
potentially
rng-dependant
i could see if i have some spare pieces, if you'd like
Yes please
i do, all three
ign is the same as here, if you want to inv
alrighty
invited
The maw is giant holy hell
How did Albrecht even get that
Reminds me of how subnautica proportions are so wrong that u only see how big the leviathans are by comparing models with the player
wait was stalker once excalibur
no
they looked alike at the intro of the jade something something quest tho
body looks similar to excalibur yeah but the helmet isnt and the abilities arent either
long story very short, Stalker's model is a "black colored Excalibur with a unique helmet"
noice
what the-
knock knock neighbour
SLAY THE DREAMER, STALKER
stalker wielding hate and the jade wielding harmony how nice
Jade has three weapons!
The bow Evensong, the throwing knives Cantare, and Harmony the scythe
notice the pattern? 
you'll find out in one more mission
💀 so that was what's draining her aint no way shes pregnant
and she just gone after that😭
you enjoy the birth minigame
you finished the quest just in time
In two days the best event in the game restarts
Ordis vs. Parvos Granum, fighting over Jade's ashes
insane
oh that link doesn't have the best line
Ordis: "The man you refer to is dead. But Ordis is sure he would also have told you to GET FFF- far out of our way."
"Ordan Karris should have- SLIT YOUR THROAT- when he had the chance."
Ordis is an absolute savage lol
Well. Stalker is a Warframe
So yes
But thats not the question youre asking
you can use him in duviri, with opportunity intrinsics
but not outside of it
Rank up Duviri intrinsics!
Thats not true theres one niche scenario you can play as him outside duviri
Operation belly of the beast
xata
But no blueprints to build your own
also it's not our Stalker but a different one
and he's kind of a bootleg ash-nyx :(
is that a limited event or always on the map, cuz i dont have it on my map rn
Limited
The mission is Brutus on Uranus
yea
ash, helminth, ash, nyx
Hey his passive is unique afaik
so i gotta wait 2 days later
If you want to play as Stalker you need to go to Larunda Relay and chat with Ordis there
^ when the operation is active
yup
Ordis is there bc its the closest relay to the sun apparently
toss the motes into the sun
you just sent me there i was about to do it😭
Hell of a throwing arm
Also this Stalker talk reminds me
Arthur breaks the War greatsword after being impaled by the Shadow Stalker. This Short is clipped from a replay of The Second Dream Quest in Warframe.
As an Excalibur main since 2015 and an Umbra main since 2018, I wanted see how The Second Dream quest played out with the Arthur Gemini Skin.
It was quite interesting and gave me insight as to...
Playing Second Dream with protoframes is the funniest thing
ORDIS THE WHITE SOX NEEDS YOU !!
Ngl the fact that the tetra has the "I have 100% accuracy you just don't know what im hitting" mod is hilarious
“How to dodge NBA draft”
-# (yes ik it’s not NBA idk the baseball acronym)
MLB
how do i kill my kuva lich?
match the right requiem mods in sequence, then fly to their base on railjack
how do i know which mods it is?
You kill their thralls a bunch of times
and how do i get them?
^
ah
you get requiem mods either in kuva missions in Alert tab, or get them through palladino in iron wake, earth
so killing thralls will give me hints on what the kuva lich is weak to?
yes
I wonder how hard it is to kill a lich on mobile
it tells u which mods to equip, but it's not in sequence so you'll have to guess
not hard at all
i mean i dont feel confident in guessing
I got all the lich weapons save the new ones
you'll have to guess
there's only so many combinations you can go through
9 possible combinations if you have all the requiem murmurs
like, what, 9 combinations
I think there's 9 combinations
everyone thinks playing on mobile is abyssmal, why tho
it's mobile
How many combinations till Scrap overloads from too much data?
9
Damn looks like you need to upgrade
Bro needs a potato installed for more mod slots 
And 336 if you don't have any
so i just beated the hex finale quest and i found my new base of operations
Almost a whole year...
past tense of beat is beat
but yea the backroom is nice
though. you don't need to beat the finale to unlock it, just 1999
or melts their proccesser in rage
I want to switch locations to backtooms soon accidentally did something with my incarnon for braton im angry at
What did you accidentally do to it?
does this fit look good? Should i change anything?
Installed on braton instead braton prime
So have to farm duiviri again
Looks nice enough I think, looks like you haven't added much signa stuff onto it
what's your vision for the aesthetics?
you don't have to add all the decos on your character if it clashes with the aesthetics vision fyi
simplicity. Not too much clutter, or things covering other things. For example i thought about having a backpack cosmetic, but then that'd cover the flowers
Whats.the vision cause ive seen like igris fashion for drifter
ye thats what i was thinking
This is why I got rid of base Braton when I got Prime to avoid mistakes like that
Yeah i will
Looked cool btw
hard to explain. Just something cool but feminine? Perhaps neon or like... Futuristic? I dunno. Also i wanted to keep the stalker symbol on and make it look like some kinda badge or crest, but i'm having a hard time positioning it
you think it looks cool? c:
Hm
thought about doing this for the stalker symbol, that or i'd put it somewhere lower. It's between this, the stomach, and the breast
It does personally the hexis on the legs are little offputing personally but im not sure what would help with it
i can take those off and wait for some better armor piece to come along
I love the silver on the arm though
thank you
ditto on the asymmetrical silver, it slaps
thank you thank you
I understand what you are going for sort of but its hard to help cause what i see you could do and what you want could be totally different but cant we put sigils on the arm
arent there different kinds of sigils for that?
Probably ill have to experiment later
ah i see. Emblems arent available
I habent done much fashion for driftwr i still hate the default hairstyles for what i have
my vibe for your aesthetics presently is "neon chivalric techno-knight"
Knight of the lotus
now that's vibes 
Thats the dex suit for drifter isnt it i might try things tomorrow
yes, dex suit for drifter
here's something silly I do to find inspirations for new operator/drifter fashion
I press randomize all and let the game mix together everything I own until something vaguely piqued my interests
🤣
sure? Lol
literally everything, meaning it kitbash all my fashion pieces and all my color schemes at once lol
I wish i could use the eros wings and have only on wing for a sephiroth vive
where should i put the stalker sigil? My chest, stomach, or the cloth?
I do it on a fresh loadout so it doesn't interfere with my pre-existing fashion sets
Personally the cloth looks more like a badge of honoir or respect
^
that's what i was going for. Love the stalker
The one on the chest looks more like a brand of ownership good for like a acolyte fashion
so they're both good? Which do i pick?