#spoiler-chat
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I think my plan is gonna be saving my Vazarin ult for the second vulnerability section of the first major phase, then play out the rest of the fight normally.
@wild wind Just for a sanity check, would you say Scaldra Apex is harder than Techrot Apex, phase wise?
Gotta go through with the whole thing
Yknow that scaldra enemy that puts down a post that emits gas? That gas heals scaldra units including the first phase tank
Aw man I dont wanna do a 6th one I just wanted to do my steel path 1999 chart
WAIT WHAT
DO YOU HAVE A PIC
Ikr?
How are they healing from the gas that is literally toxic to humans 
Surely this is not anything more than a game mechanic 
No clue
creating a coda is a pretty.. intentional process
Might I make a friendly suggestion?
Don't take any mixtapes to any computers
Is that how they spawn?
Tbf you have no idea what the mixtape does
Correct
I didnt know that 
After you do it Arthur usually tells you that you made an OnLyne clone
The first one, I'll accept that
All others, no
These things happen sometimes
usually when we're not paying attention, believe me
But they do happen
Like a noob spawning a lich for the first time and feeling like they just appeared out of nowhere
Im so used to picking things up and putting in terminal and I forgot you dont wanna do that in hollvania
impressive
I hope you don't apply that logic to random USBs you find outside
I dont i was raised better than that. I was so used to my lich protecting me from it spawning I guess
that's fair tbh
I'm like 95% sure this is Quincy
the only reason I have doubt is the breasts but the head doesn't match Eleanor/Lettie/Aoi
I don't think that's quincy ngl
...I'm calling it, that's Minerva
Yeah looking at what does and doesn’t Nullify in Apex fight, Phase 2 is way easier
Y'all got a recommendation for a Primary vs Apex? Using Laetum.
Yeah I thought it was Aoi lol
Burston Prime w/incarnon
So you can have TWO Laetums
Oof. Don’t got it.
I would imagine that, for my purposes, Dual Tox is worse than Laetum.
I need there to be statues of all 7 executors
Ahahaha
In new war and completed the optional thing but when I died it got set down to 7 but there’s no one to be saved? I’m confused
just ignore it, it has literally zero impact
just a thing to do to feel better about yourself lol
Yay
Upsides to having done 5 other ones is that at least this one was done within the day and now I hope I can remember not to pick up the thing
at least you can get another coda weapon now?
I didnt even get that 
you know you buy the weapons instead of the coda dropping them right
Not enough mastery rank im only rank 15
breh
Im working on getting up there. Ultimate goal is to hit 30 eventually
eh I hit MR18 and just stopped caring afterwards, that's the highest req
I'm somewhere in the 20s now bc my adhd demands new weapons regularly
I have motivation to get to the next rank as then I can make the sarofang prime
I like being 30 because I can do syndicates fast
Marie.
The Face.

Marie def didn't exist yet
but maybe they modeled her off that
but also we don't know if Albrecht used the Triad samples or if he even took any from them, it sounds like the vessels are only from the 1999 crew
Why did we throw a peace sign at Loid after the 1999 ending
half vibes (gonna party like it's 1999) half telling him we'd won another victory against the Indifference
and put the fear of god into him
sure she did. he made her literally 'later > in the past'.
And where is it said, that he arrived in 1999 'BEFORE' the time of Marie and Lyon?
I mean dev wise LOL
we only assume that because the cathedral came later in the game
also we know he went to 1999 before, those were the first, the Hex are what inspired him to make the vessels
Why not
And, yk, because DE said they'd make more protos if the hex are received well
yeah
yes, he went to 1999 before the vessels.
but we don't know if he went to XX99 in between.
for the purpose of this discussion that's irrelevant
Because if the Vessels correspond to existing protos it's probably the Hex
ye, but that's out-game information. not nececcarily lorewise
there's not a huge amount of time when proto-triad and albrecht coexisted for him to take samples
especially without them talking about it in chats later
because they're the only ones we know were made in conjunction with Whispers as opposed to 1999
and you can't deny that the big female one looks a looooot more like marie than one of the female hex
Still relevant tho
Lore-wise we don’t even know why Albrecht made them or how many places he went to
Or entirely what order he made the protos other than the Hex being the first
It’d make sense the vessels are primarily that of the Hex since
That’s who he got the samples from, that’s what inspired the vessels
that's true, but besides my point. we can't even be sure yet there won't be any other timelines or 'ages' he made others.

There isn’t other timelines it’s just one timeline
And yes he very well could have made many others, both in and out of the year 1999
lawl surprise Myst reference
Arthur brings it up iirc, really he could have made a proto for every possible frame
but yes there are certainly going to be more protoframes
Hopefully better written ones
Megan: "while, yes, absolutely, we'd love to do more protoframes, we want to do more protoframes, they'll be very selective on where they would go"
from the shenpai interview
take it as you will
HOPEFULLY
bring back Voidshells DE my collection grows thin
I hope they learned to not do the Triad again
based on how 'selective' was emphasized, i think they've learned from it, at least a little bit
I'd love to see a Follie voidshell with an ink pattern
lorewise DE isn't even 100% consistent. Remember the beginnings of warframe vs. warframe today.
also yeah the Triad are the one group of protos I kind of dread interacting with
Voidshells kinda get screwed by being stuck with essentially being a different default base skin
I sure hope so!
I’m going to
Idek if we get a nitokh proto-
yea.
I’m worried they’d even try
would bet on Garuda, Valkyr or Voruna. Just because blood and splatter.
Ballas 2: blood and gore edition better not be a proto
They genuinely wouldn't
They made an unsympathetic proto once already
We’re getting Garuda lore
I’m nervous about this because we’re getting that
Because Nitokh seems to be tied to Garuda to some degree
hey now that's a terrible thing to say about Amir
And for some reason romancable???
being a proto seems like a good punishment ;D

...1.5
we'll know what to expect on the 24th, i guess
I've said it elsewhere but I'm sure they're building up to a Nitohk thing, but it's not going to be "she's alive and part of the story"
Eh, not really
Maybe if she was a full frame but as a proto she has her own autonomy still
And she sure wouldn’t let us use transference on her meaning she can’t be a skin
And if she isn’t a skin then people get mad
It’s just better to not do it
Because voiced by some sorta evil husbando VA and we know rebb loves those
Mmmhm!
They've been perfectly happy to kill off executors in side material
funny thing that Roathe knew the original uriel and uriel standard frames before he became the proto uriel himself
😔 her greed consumes her
2 of them died in leverians and 1 in a synthesis entry lmfao
Yup lol
It does feel like they want to set up Nitokh as a future villain of sorts tbh, I doubt she’s gone gone
Unless
They give us Garuda leverian and it’s about her either becoming her or dying by her claws
Better yet if Nitokh designed her
Garuda will have been struck in her honor
oh i love that idea-
Not designed
but yeah Garuda's definitely going to be involved with giving her the axe
“In her honor” I like that better, good coverup 
much better - designed her and became her after a failed attempt of garuda to kill her? XD
I really hope it’s a leverian so we know if we can get more
Too convoluted
like thats not an usual thing in warframe?
Designed her doesn’t mean she made her, Parvos designed Protea and Ballas made her
That’s what I mean
It's not
Honestly will be a little shocked if we got any protos coming soon. Expecting it a little bit still would be a little shocked
Kinda hoping they wait at least a year before introducing more but HEY I’ll take it if we get more. As long as their Kim convos and lore is good and the emote transformation is satisfying I’m all for it. My plat is yours DE.
the lore usually isn't that convoluted, it's just they don't explain the order of events
To be clear I mean made as in physically created her, not just coming up with the design lol
we're definitely getting some this year
we got the full ethernalism thing going on including two versions of ourselves and you say it's not "convoluted"
I would hope they take a long break from it and when they do lore they’re better written than the Triad
Characters first, skins second
Oh and also have them actually fit into their update properly
I just hope whatever batch we get next is…hmmm how to put this…structured better than the triad…??
Idk how to word that right tbh lol
And have them not bog down said update causing before them and the update to be just a lil bit too rushed
That's not convoluted
in retrospect it actually fits better than I expected??
but...?
Eternalism essentially doesn't even apply to anything
The update basically has the Operator being the subject of the Refractory, and the Drifter being the one using the Refractory on another subject
Eternalism explains like two things for sure and only one of them is actually relevant, it’s not that convoluted it just seems convoluted due to how they tell the story
not even the drifter/operator really knows whats going on there and call it "complicated" <,<
Yet it isn't
Roathe fits well but random people from 1899, eh
Also Lyon should have been the tauron strike vendor, not Marie
If every possibility is possible, then there's a possibility that the Operator never escaped the Void
okay THAT I agree with 100%
They do, they studied these concepts
The decorations also shouldn't rotate
completely worthless decision imo
Agreed!
Weirdest part is that lyon IS the one summoning the weapons??
exactly!
he needed to be present for something
That’s what I’m saying!!
And he's more into the Void (hehe) stuff than Marie is
my take on that is because of his connection with Rell and the original harrow
And honestly Lyon should have been the most relevant proto in the end
Make Marie the pity shop/arcane vendor and give her the decorations, Lyon is the one with the strikes
Lyon’s story was the best of the 3
He is also the best character of the 3
No him doing it isn't weird it's him doing it but marie being the vendor
they had the most interesting concept with him
The Triad ultimately shouldn't have been romanceable
Lyon was the most character first skin second of the Triad
Lyon NOT being the Tauron vendor makes literally no sense. Lol. Hes the one diving into these void “settings” and retrieving these lost artifacts yet it’s Marie who explains it to us. Just feels so weird!
he even got the connection long before he became harrow himself
except lyon
Literally only done cause of marketing
Marie and Roathe ALONE
Lyon and Marie are catholic clergy, they ought to have been celibate
Eeeeeehhhh
It’s explained as she’s asking him to do it cause he won’t talk to us at first cause ???
That's not a thing in WF
While Roathe should have been uninterested due to >Nitokh
I don't think celibacy is ever mentioned as being part of Dualism
I erased the "equivalent" from there
the voices in his head? the reason he became a cleric in the first place?
False memories, he only thinks he had them before because of how the infestation works
He had visions, not voices
Eleanor's Monk self takes a vow of silence and shaves her head but I think that's not really a requirement
But since he will talk to us now…it just makes it a little awkward. Like maybe they should’ve locked it behind progressing your relationship through him? But I also get why they DIDNT do that.
Idk. It’s very interesting lol
true. i've thought about this a lot, but in fact it would be more realistic if it isn't because of "unity in dualism" and stuff
I get why they didn’t do that too but then maybe just
Don’t have him being locked???
Also that…
Seriously why is he locked??? He arbitrarily doesn’t trust us???
It felt like a very forced character aspect ngl
Big shocker from the Triad
didn't he also hear stuff besides seeing ?
I feel like some of the Hex didn't trust us to start with their chats so
I feel like he mentioned "Rap tap tap" at some point (besides his combat dialogue)
exactly
Just as a thing I don't think Lyon's lack of trust is a bad character trait
He remembers hearing stuff but that's bc his memories are being messed with
It’s not, but for his inventory and convos to be locked behind it is forced
It would make more sense if he was an add-on like the Round Table
But he's not, they just arbitrarily cut down his convos
The Triad shouldn’t have been baked into the Old Peace ):
god that's actually it isn't it
wait... hear me out:
prehistoric protoframe - Atlas?
DINOSAUR FRAME
Nah
RAWR
Warframe
199999
BC
They've started talking around it instead of just saying no
Atlas is too modern for prehistoric
I was lowkey a little upset when I walked up to him and he was RIGHT AWAY “don’t speak to me” not some…awkward greeting showing untrust.
Triad was just so weirdly executed I hope our next batch is back to the good ole formula they were playing with the hex and roundtable. Triad just feels rushed or forced.
he is the litterally stone guy. XD
Atlas is also a boxer, visually
let's just go to ancient Greece
...do you know the real mythical atlas
Full on Assassin's Creed it
If we ever get a dinoframe I hope we get like
A club or bone weapon
Dragontooth hammar
Parazon?
yeees i doooo but our myths not necessarily apply to warframe. Warframe also has a lot of 'real' gods like Nezha or Wukong
I’m sad we didn’t get a USB parazon skin
Atlas, Styanax, random Nyx proto as an enemy, new proto/Warframe based on the Myrmidons
For the Dino frame would you want it to be like a frame that can transform itself into a dinosaur like form? Or just straight up a dinosaur frame. I’m just honestly curious what people want FOR a Dino frame since I’ve seen it thrown around so much lately 🤣
based on
what kind of logic is that
Reptile Voruna?
Fun fact, Bombastine at one point made references to greek gods!
This was removed in the final release
doesn't she also has scales? XD
They've mentioned a few times that rigging issues prevent non-standard body types from parkouring properly
My friend literally called her prime a dinosaur LOL
That's why Voruna only runs on all fours in her 4
it’s a crime that voruna prime’s mouth doesn’t open
Is that why only her prime, or?
no because afaik you can put her regular skin on and it will show the same behavior
RIGHT?!
Grendel can open his belly, limbo can take of his hat, but voruna?... XD
Voruna gets the mouth guard
I get if they want to have these special movement anims be tied to the prime variants but is there a technical reason???
no uwuing from her
no and it's dumb
Slap on nourish
So it’s probably just a creative decision
The primes are the best versions
caliban prime should've gotten floating walking anims at least
I am totally not angry about it
that or they don't want to go back and update the rigging if they don't have to
I nearly smashed a mug through my screen when I saw he hadn't
I just want to talk to whoever decided to do it
Tau 2026 update
Caliban finally gets his floating. Trust.
With my 220% cc lex
-# don't make a promise you can't keep
actually I wonder if it's because Caliban's part of the vanguard
Throw me into the void if I’m wrong idc. I’m predicting it lol. The amount of demands for it makes me think we’ll get it soon or announced around when that big update is announced. I trust DE!!! lol
there are some demands that go unfulfilled for years though
Hydroid prime trailer
garuda lore:
That's a Steve promise
Garuda lore…
hey they’ve done a good job on delivering even into later requested things. Even if we get it 2 years from now, I’ll be happy lol
Revenant becoming revenant after being 'infected' with the Eidolon Energy... but Revenant prime is from the orokin era...
Caliban is mentioned as a 'new weapon' at narmer-time, but caliban prime comes from the old peace...
"She ate a mushroom once and then a mushroom ate her"
Caliban is never mentioned as a new weapon but go off ig
LORE
(specifically Caliban's alt-helmet mentions he was an Old War model built by Erra)
that'd be more than we have now
Also rev prime explicitly just got ejected from who knows where into ballas' room and he got pissy over it
DE's most recent statement on that is apparently "the Unum did it"
- unum is mentioned in his prime armor description
I recognize that the devs made a decision but given it's a stupid decision I've decided to ignore it
I mean theyre already looking to see if voruna's 4 can be an exalted so...
OH?!
supposedly at an internal stalemate iirc
First I’m hearing of that. That’s exciting!!!
I mean hey my conspiracy theory is getting more possible
Unum is the finger!!!!111!1!
OOOOOOH yes please. I hope they go through with it. That sounds hype.
Also it means the Unum wanted to personally screw with Ballas, which proves good taste and excellence
When time stopped in that tower…I got chills. Unum you have my full support.
can't argue with that. And also don't want to
Not a single mention of "new"
that doesn't really imply that caliban is new, though?
-# also that looks suspiciously like the fandom wiki
it is, but it's also a Quote.
Mom, his prime was literally made during a time of peace before you were born
Real talk my biggest problem with New War (besides the lack of Scarlet Spear for providing a war scene) was that Caliban never came gunning for you
Look up his alt helmet.
Caliban boss fight with Erra voice lines…
“A fearsome alternative helmet to give Caliban a look he has not worn since the Old War.”
More pazuul?
Interestingly this implies that the Cranion helmet is the ORIGINAL helmet
I find pazuul's lack of hinge funny
Or that yes
Same with kullervo
true... 🤔
Uncle deserved more
here's how I would have done it
All frames were made during the Old War except technically Revenant who’s original form and prime existed during the Old War lol
you beat the last archon and reach Ballas, who is dealing with the Lotus
Remember, the kullervo in duviri has the ustvah helmet
and you're blocked from interfering by Caliban
how did kullervo even ended up in Duviri?
the drifter had no connection whatsoever to the outside world and kullervo couldn't be a part of the "Tales of Duviri" storybook
who sicks a million sentients on you and has a bunch of health bars
Ballas ofc
He fell in
kullervo got thrown into the void by ballas n landed there
like teshin
Caliban boss fight controlled by a veiled tenno
Things fall into duviri all the time
mmm,,
if you read the Seven Crimes listed on the prison proper, Kullervo tried to merk Ballas during the Collapse
or poke in. like a certain giant caterpillar like Finger.
N o
Ballas responded by opening a void portal and Kullervo fell in
did you even read the duviri codex entries? <,<
Wally's finger didn't intrude, wally did
this is probably what inspired Ballas in New War tbh
wally already is in there. the 'mysterious silent duviri guy with one finger missing"
We turned on our heel and made for the Palace, where I gave Dominus Thrax the best account I could of what I had seen. On hearing that a single monstrous finger had burst up through the green sward, Thrax took terrible fright.```
Oh
Yeah probably omg
He is and isn't
Ahhh this is the quote when players received their free caliban.
screenshot from reddit
he is and isn't everything.
I'd say Wally's infiltrated Duviri but he doesn't want to infiltrate
He wants to drown it
He don’t like when his nothing got something in it
Duviri has both time and space in a place that is without
Thanks a lot, Drifter
Who only made it because of Wally
The vagabond is kinda just a bit of wally that's like the .1% of germs
Vagrant, but also yes
he is like the shadow in "the void" from supernatural.
if there is even one thing that is a thing made out of it, he is extremely pissed
Vagabond is his sneeze
Vagrant?
That's his name yeah
I only know it as vagabond
I keep thinking Vagabond too
It’s vagabond
i guess that's a language thing
huh so it is
I’d be mad if someone came into my house and started turning my kitchen into a medieval kingdom
thrice
I would not
I wrote about him in the wiki 😭
That was my one contribution to the fandom wiki lol
pffft
wally also seems to had infected a bunch of duviri children
Wally really went and got the ugliest mask possible for his OC huh
he's an edgelord what do you expect /s
I believe it was about his mask, which it looks like that made it to the official wiki
It’s been so long idr
Wally should've yoinked mr. bombasticne's mask
He keeps going after children
Or calls someone by a childhood name
No way bro is a good guy 😭
Were you here for the bombastine myrmidon theories
the creepy old gramp from outside reality with a lot of imaginary candy
he's a horror movie monster
I now need an edit of this but it's just bombastine
Wth
We need to kill this guy asap
It was before we knew ANYTHING lol
🎵 Wally call me Mr. Bombastic, really fahntahstic🎵
killing the conceptual embodyment of the void and all posibilities (because the void connects all realities and stuff...
good luck
Not quite
If anything he’s the conceptual embodiment of the fear of the void, not the void itself nor eternalism
why then should he be that pissed about us making stuff out of void?
He also def, to an extent is an embodiment of entropy
Meanwhile he also wants what we got lol
He lives there
I gave my kitchen analogy and everything
ye, but i think it's more like his whole house including bath- and bedroom
I mean yeah
The void doesn’t have space or time
With Duviri it now does in one little pocket
One possible reason he doesn’t want it there
I can't. find. Words.
Then he takes over a crazy lady and now he is writing bad fanfic in Duviri instead lol
if he's not happy about stuff in the void, why doesn't he also go after the granum void btw?
I did it
gz
Good question
Maybe cause Granum’s didn’t have space and time?
Cause all Granum did was watch the system
That entire fight is so frontloaded in difficulty.
Also
(mission start) Neci Rusalka: "I thrive on nothingness. You choke on it."
He like the nothing
I wish getting to the tank fight was faster, like the guilty
It’d be less painful that way
I like the cool way to do it but maybe that’s a one time thing?
didn't she also mention that the fragmented in the mission were at some point 'like us'?
yup
When the Fragmented envoy appears
Neci Rusalka: [giggles] "My herald looked like you, once."
Neci Rusalka: "This is your future."
Neci Rusalka: "I have uses for dealbreakers."
Neci Rusalka: "How will I reassemble your pieces?"
They were human at the least
I wonder if there's a fragmented that's just a giant middle finger
Idk how much points to them literally being alt versions of us other than the “looked like you” line
I’d love that
Wally getting bored at some point and going "you know what would be funny"
should've been his true missing finger. 🤷♂️
Nah it's better as is, now he can't gamble
imagine it.
every void drive powered by a flying fck
Cuz he has no index
"I think that enemy got
The point"
I find it amusing just how much I had to butcher the build for it to compete against H-09
Ohh your pfp is a mantis thing
same as i did with limbo for Janus Vor
I thought it was like. A random green blob
Yep, is bug.
no, a feature
I cast fireball
Ouch
same universal remedy in every pnp rpg
Do you like bugframe
Wh
Aka titania and rhino’s beetle deluxe
I have beetle deluxe
That's not even a typo what
Yeah that's my big problem with the Apex bosses, it takes too long to actually activate them, then if you end up dying you gotta start from scratch. It's fine if they're secret bosses, but now they have actual rewards tied to them (mostly referring to the Evolving Honoria/Insignia)
pen and paper role play game? D&D origins? <,<
In fact, Beetle Rhino’s wings were why I even bought the skin and eventually Rhino himself.
That's generally called a ttrpg
I initially bought the skin under the assumption the wings could be used on anyone
The animations can at least
I mean the rewards are still cosmetic, the issue is more so the secret bosses taking so long to get to is demotivating if you lose
Yep, that's exactly the wording I was wanting, thank you! Very demotivating
I one try’d Frag One with Wisp, so I doubt it’d be any different for any of those 6 Accolades. Janus Vor might be harder, but doable.
I’m not doing any of the other Apex Accolades.
I actually did enjoy the grind against solo Guilty, because I felt measured improvement and where I made mistakes against them.
That and actively workshopping the build as I made attempts.
Or just stuck with using outdated/rarely used terminology
seriously ehere does all that antagony comes from?
even if i present evidence of inconsistencies it's always "no, no, no"
not even a single "well, maybe"
Neurodivergent bluntness and lack of healthy sleep mostly
and yes, i use 'outdated' terms, because thats how i learned that language
is that your argument against an ADHD and fellow sleep deprived tenno? 🥲
Tbf I try to use modern terms when possible excluding slang just bc it's usually less trouble
Yes
What’s happening here
sad. i'm gonna cry - right after i get some sleep. maybe next week, then
War?
keep it in the frame.
Nah too small scale
Chess if neither side knew the rules
Ok that'd be hilarious actually
I don’t think they would do this but imagine a frame that could transport themselves through consoles
Netrunnerframe
Ye!
A more tech instead of gadget focused frame would be cool
You get it
I’m honestly not sure what I want out of a new Warframe.
new hacking minigame: Go Inside The Console
I like pigeons, people hate them for reasons that are only humanity's fault
Yessss
Knight frame
I think hackerframe would be a bit more solo oriented but
They’d be neat
not even my cat liked them.
Chro— explodes
Yk actually, just give me a historically accurate sword of any kind and I'd be happy
Excalibur? Arthur? the "Knight king of England"? No?
Longswords are always too short and greatswords too slow
Excal is more ninja-samurai than knight
Too fragile
a least HE did go with the times. <,<
But I do want a Chroma rework, at least partially
like... Gray Fox ;D
Either a knight or a samurai kinda weird that it’s a space ninja game with only 1 shinobi
but also one true ninja.
He needs it so my friend will play the game (he loves chroma)
tbf a ninja with a head similar to a xenomorph
I think Chroma’s passive is great and doesn’t need changing, purely because two bullet jumps is really fun.
It’s great mobility.
I already play the game tho
Agreed, I like the idea of the doubling credits ability a lot
He is moneyframe
History fun fact, longswords are supposed to be long enough to reach the user's elbow when the tip is on the ground. When was the last time you saw a longsword of that size in a game?
Another friend!
Have you seen the fencing thing in soulframe
I have not
I do get the idea at least now. Dragon with its hoard
Yup! I love it
I wonder if the double bullet jump one is cause dragons fly?
I love chroma and he was my first prime, but I'm his biggest hater bc he is genuinely useless
Did Chroma have abilities before the pelt???
He just had VERY bad breath
Double Bullet Jump is more like sprouting wings, which you can for sure see with Prime and some other skins.
That's just the extra jump's vfx
It always has him gain energy wings
Tldr wing flap
On the base, literally!
Seriously there's a skin flap of the pelt out of the way where the wings appear
It looks weird
Y’know, I really wouldn’t mind if Chroma’s double credits from using 4 was just bumped to his Passive, then made his 4 stronger or different.
well... dragons... and wealth... not that far of a stretch <,<
DE! Make chroma usable in modern content and my life is yours!
Again!
Chroma Rework for Unannounced 2026 Update, trust
I'm already a cephalon but yk!
🙏
my most hoped for thing
I know Loki needs something anything because he's drowning
But Chroma. Please.
There’s an irony in Chroma being what he is right now, because you genuinely could run him as a stat stick Warframe
If chroma gets touched up on even in the slightest I’ll freak out lol
My fav dragon boy
Wait in the new hex ending do we transference into them 1 by 1 to help them or we just motivate them by speaking in their heads
speaking to them in their heads is via transference
Except Lettie who doesn’t need help beyond surviving Eleanor
Okay so like in his current state any time he is gold the game is bad. So like a complete full rework is needed.
Just like Nekroz.
When was the last time he was good?
When the old guard were around?
Also Nekros isn’t bad from what I recall, just too high investment to make him good iirc
Bring him to legacyte harvest, it’s better 
Well okay the only thing he does is "survive" and do looting things.
That's not a real warframe it doesn't feel good to play Nekroz.
You get an army
That’s a thing
I don't feel like a master of the Dead I feel like I'm being looked after by my team while I double argon over and over.
I’m not saying he doesn’t need a rework
The army is there just for DR mostly but it is a cool idea.
I like his army of the dead.
I just think he kinda sucks cus people don't want de to touch his loot ability which doesn't even work in most content now.
They should rework him, keep the loot ability and make it work more
Maybe state what does and doesn’t work
if i had it my way
i would take out the loot ability cuz it just makes it where like eyou have to build stuff with terrible drop rates
cuz you expect people to use it.or you have to make things not work with it.
so i would rather just remove it but i realize that is probably not possible.
it's why i think they like thief class in Soul frame is terrible that it has it.
cuz steve is like "well you can always get it with this class" and thus some drop chances are really really badd.
Isn’t that one more like Ivara’s
That is a bad reason lol
yes but people don't really do that with ivara it's not her whole identity.
when i feel like it is nerkos'.
like it's not khoras or Hydroids full indeity now either.
but it's literally the only thing to do with nekros.
Minion abilities need to have their cap removed
500 zombies
Revenant should have 50 thralls
Probably can’t because coding issues
Revenant should be deleted 
I've gotten up over 30 thralls in Circuit once
Might have even gotten to 50
It's been a while, I don't remember anymore
But having a massive army of thralls was the reason I ended up crafting Revenant as my first Prime
there is bug that revenant can have infite ones you see boiler you trall it you kill it and let spawn more infested and those ifested will be pernamently on your side for ever and you can do this ifinitly amout of times and they spawn like actuall ally so you can´t even kill them

idk if that was patched or no but i remeber that bug
He had a 7 cap when I used him
the cap is based off ability strength iirc
🧢
Even if it scales on ability str u cant get 50 thralls thats over 500%
Someone should test it
i only know parasitic vitality lets you share 4% hp per stack with a teammate
not sure if he can share str
My favorite Revenant story is that I managed to enthrall Sargas Ruk one time
A Grineer thrall bonked him on his weak spot and he started fighting for me
lore accurate frames fighting bosses and eximus without their bs anti warframe ability armor they havent used since the old war
Hey y'all. did DE ever release the 1999 version of This is what you are (during The Hex Finale) officially?
IIRC, that song is called It Cures.
It's a mash-up of The Call and This Is What You Are.
I'm pretty sure it was in the official 1999 soundtrack as a bonus track.
oh
found it!
Thank you :)
idk how i missed it then haha
Question: does the operation auto end when we hit 100% Follie Shadowgraph thingy?
Yippee, I think I’m gonna run nightmares for the title even though I really don’t like the Follie mission or how this operation is set up
IMO, Belly of The Beast was peak update operation
iirc those are tied to your clans and clan-specific rewards. but idk.
No thats just to unlock the ephemeras
Idk if anything happens at 100% but it wont end
The percent bar and the clan trophy thing are separate things
Percent bar is community wide
Clan trophy is... well clan wide its in the name after all
Okay, i couldnt remeber if they were seperate or conjoined
Ye wish DE made it a bit clearer in the UI how they are separate
Even just a little line separating them would help
This prime time is unhinged, they said "speaking of Yaoi" and brought up the Loid floof
Good ol' DE
I have a genuine question. First Roathe brings up Nitokh and now there’s a statue of her in Zorba’s operation shop. Is DE gearing up to make Nitokh the next bbeg?
I thought Albrecht was already public enemy number 1, especially after 1999
albrecht is more of a secondary protagonist than an antagonist
the current threat is wally
We have yet to see an antagonist for the Tau arc
Could be the Orokin sent Nitokh to Tau and maybe over time she took over from the shadows or somethin
nitokh fled after roach disappeared
My primary gripe with Nitokh being a potential bbeg is that it feels like with each new update since Deimos there’s more and more Orokin that seemed to escape the Tenno’s “Total” genocide of the Orokin
Do keep in mind that as relatively few Orokin as there were, there was still enough for there to be a significant hierarchy and social strata within the caste itself
This is still a tiny amount compared to how many there would’ve been
Very likely yeah
Consider the population. If the population of the Origin system matches IRL earth alone, there'd be 8,000,000,000+ people. If the Orokin were the top 0.01%, that's still 800,000 Orokin.
And that's assuming the population is what it is today. Since they've colonized the entire Sol system, each planet could have like 2 billion people minimum
Of course Nitokh being an executor, she was probably a priority target, which makes it weird she somehow survived if she did
I mean it makes sense
Most of the Executors could’ve survived with measures in place
Ballas did, obv, and it’d make sense Nitokh would have something left over from her other plans too
Yeah, maybe she was already presumed dead somehow
Assuming she still held the position and something didn’t happen to her, anyway
at least 3 executors did survive some time into the collapse or longer
at least 3 executors survived
there were only 7 executors
That’s just under half and I would assume that the executors would be priority targets for the Tenno?
They’d also be the most guarded and the ones hardest to get to
This assuming they were at the Drums anyway, only the Emperors actually get mentioned
They could’ve just been elsewhere, found out and went away
Scarne likely also survived for a period, assuming they’re not bringing him back too
No, but it's likely she's going to be important in the next minor update which will launch around June
I expect it's going to be revealed that Garuda was made in her honor
next minor update which will launch around June
Sauce, b0ss?
The new devstream announcement
The update's out before Tennocon
Tennocon is in July, releasing May puts it too close to Follie, so June
lol if only
Entrati is more Anti-Hero fighting a Force Of Nature antagonist, IMO
Not even antagonist
One group of people + 1 guy just don’t like him
Aside from that at worst depending on our choices it’s presented as if we don’t like him too but have more important things to deal with first
force of nature... rules of nature?
wait actually I gotta rename that
I wish it was ever on sale
it's always really cheap lol
Yeah it's not like super expensive, but I'd prefer not to pay $45 if I can
whuh
aa
I am a third of the way to being able to change the events of the hex finale
Looks like I have seen everything,but we don't see why they locked down the operators memories, is it because of trauma tenno, had to go through or lotus will force a way for a tenno to face the fear of what was happening in that TAU.
watch tau just be space florida
You finished Old Peace right?
tbh if they didn't do that we'd have our tenno doing this the whole damn time
at any sight of a prime frame or grineer
waking up for the first time in actual centuries and seeing a grineer
mangled beyond what you recall yet precisely remembering what happened to the letter and that you slaughtered other tenno
y'now what I'm wondering about
would an ascaris have sent the tenno comatose when the warframe is destroyed
ough my wording was terrible but I'm just kinda wondering that
it would probably kill the tenno since the frame getting killed/destroyed seems to kill the tenno if the link isn't cut in time
which evidently in commandeered warframes, they were incapable
a friendgroup of mine had a discussion that came to the conclusion that it doesn't kill the tenno outright, instead sending them comatose
idk which is worse
Question: is there a definitive day that the Tennocon 2026 livestream is happening? I need to know what day to call off of work
I realistically only care for the tennolive and the rest of the stream that has the weapon and prime drops
I thought DE already dropped the dates of Tennocon 2026?
Like back in February or March?
ah
Agony, suffering even
I legiterally hope that DE drops Tennolive date around May or June Devstream
Long time ago finished,but man how much lotus does have memories of the tau and I hope we won't see and lotus past from her memory too I hope, but if it shows it would be worth the story to see who she really was before the empire was in the rise.
so to quickly answer your questions
Margulis erased the Tenno's memories because Wally usually needs you to know about him to REALLY mess with your head. No memories = less Wally
Natah (Lotus) was built after The Old Peace. She never knew what Tau was like originally
its going to be 11th
Tennoconcert usually happens the day before
so that means the 11th has to be tennolive
Thanks for the help m8 I’ll keep that in mind
The hamster describes how I feel, not senselessly shitposting
oh i hope we get some quest about the real tau, before even the tau quest.
in october or september
??
some story quest about some npc
Oh that was the Old Peace quest
Hey guys, I reset the Devil's Triad for curiosity's sake (I romanced Roathe before), and I still have Roathe on anathema after 21 runs in Descendia, what do I do?
It's either a matter of advancing Marie and Lyon's stories or resetting again
I see. I haven't talked to Lyon and Maria for a bit.
Yeah thats probably why
But I'm assuming doing Descendia 21 times is still a requirement to get past the Anathema status, right?
It's required for the last step yes
Okay thanks guys.
take a video of what youre shooting
is there any red veil goober around
what's that broda?
oh the solution is really easy
well, when you look at all the chains do you notice something?
it's holding him? and one is glowing
ah, have you tried shooting the one thats glowing yet
i tried
its in the vid :3
angle shown in the video is odd
might not actually be hitting that chain
^
hitboxes are weird sometimes, it happens
yea its possible the beam was hitting the terrain behind harrow instead of the chain
July 11th aka my bday :)
Happy early birthday m8
Kinda? ||I’m more hyped for the Hunhullus Ephemera||
Sentient-narmer glyph
should prolly spoiler this
its spoiler chat but this is still unreleased/"leaked" content, yk
Which means || the next update will be a narmer expansion the summer update where the narmer try to fix the extrasolar rail ,we kill the narmer , finish the bridge and by Christmas we're going to current day tau , both entrati and now lotus in old peace said ' tau is in sight'||
Sorry I forgot
Tau is in sight :)
If I may give DE tons of praise, if literally any other studio or game had an update like this, Tau 2026 would be a new title and the last like 13 years of content would be thrown into the bin, rendered literally unplayable, like as in you physically cannot load up missions because the planets no longer exist
Golly gee I wonder who that last comment is not so subtly targeted at >_>
avg destiny expansion (from what i hear)
Like a Fortnite map XD
GreyScale had it closer to the title I was not so subtly throwing shade at
And by closer I mean dead on the money
Ik ik
They're called de for a reason
Digital content makers which are extremely awesome

Also they have a whole team of writers in the level of hp Lovecraft dropping ball lore every update back to back to back upscaling the whole version to outerversal
He isn't lmao
Tau is in sight , not in reachv(yet)
|| the narmer will most likely fix the local extrasolar bridge and we'll go there||
There's. More than a few reasons why it would be weird as shit for him to be there
|| probably entrati first but eh||
And the best part about Warframe having ~95% of the last 13 years of content being almost perfectly playable is that the game is alarmingly small given the 13 years of content in the game
Anyways it’s almost 2 AM for me I gotta go to bed
Goodnight tinhat
Also hello Thomas , we meet again
Was the tinhat part necessary
Yes, you'll find that im frequently here.
His username is tinhorn so I made a joke
Ah. Tinhat has. Another meaning lol
O no not that
Also dont some characters in wf call us tinsuit anyway

True
Did u read the censored stuff I sent
Mhm. I don't think narmer will be this update yet
Or. This tennocon, I personally think it'll be hunhow getting involved
Red sentient logo
Def narmer or hunhow
Also tbf hunhow has done his job
Won’t lie I thought it was a typo lol
We’re like a week away from the tennocon stuff (probably) being revealed officially 😭
- that kinda looks like hunhow ngl
I just want more narmer cosmetics and decorations
Like i get this is the spoiler channel
This is some spoilery spoilers
Black and red orokin items are the best
That's why I'm censoring most stuff
Brown and Gold for me
5 days
nah overlay that on the stalker landing craft
I should inv u over
no
To my orbiter , it's entirely black red gold
Shit okay uhh
Once I finish getting my ass handed to me in the war within
6 days and like
11 hours lol
Because I decided to replay it and I forgot how mean the golden maw part is
-# don't think they'd create that much of a difference
Anyway Thomas u coming over to my orbiter
No lmao

As i just mentioned, getting my ass handed to me by a golden maw
It’s like 7 days and 11 hours actually
Can't wait for Dante deluxe
My nocturnal existance erasure librarian <3
You’ll be waiting a while longer
Till summer ik ik
He ain’t coming till may-june
Oh thats not far away
ok Wang Shi Tong
Wan shi tong upscale
Eh it’s far enough away
I need to build up plat anyway
But yeah as you can see hunhow kinda looks like it + the stalker's landing craft skin sorta does too
Hope you get a 70-75% in the coming days
And when/if you have the expenses
||Praghasa railjack confirmed ??||
True, too bad I'll be saving up for a Melbourne trip 💔 I'll have to wait to get any of the deluxes or new warframes if they decide to make a new one
Neva. Scamming is the path to plat
True
Lowk a good idea.
Ew, all respect both potential and earned has been revoked
Me and my 30 ayatan sculptures I sold for 10 plat each
Star chart
Steel path
Platinum path
I just sell mods in bundles for a premium to people who want to copy overframe builds or i give them the overframe builds + the mods
Actually they were maxxed out and. Mostly 4 star sculptures so maybe not but I still felt insanely bad for the dude who bought all 30
Like why did he need all of them
Oh ok, yeah no scam them lol
Do u have any of the nokko ones , might use them as deco
No, been neglecting it ngl
Haha I even sell under market price for mods I can't sell
Don’t scam newbies
Do scam the overframers
And I've been really needing to get it, as its. Somewhat related to the entrati and its gotta go into the shrine
If scamming is upcharging by 20-50p total while teaching them how to play a frame/build then idk
Not me having like 100 ayatan sculptures all around my ship as deco
There was this one time where my mate let me buy an augment I wanted for two fish
Underground fish market
A small norg and. One of the uninfested orokin fish from deimos
I give u 1 norg for voidrig prime
They needed the uninfested fish for. I think rank up with the entrati
Ok but seriously we need a necramech rework and expansion
And another arch gun, archmelee and archwing rework
Ehh didn't we just get one with nokko? The archgun part at least
They still kinda suck. Massive orokin era weaponry who is weaker than multiple of the best pistols in the game
Yea. 1 primary and 1 secondary arcane slot
But still they suck. Considering how big they are , fire rate , deployment time and other limitations
And archmelee are non existent too , buff those guys and give them to mechs
Why should my voidrig swing his hand instead of using a massive ahh blade that should do millions of DMG per swing
yea idr the name of nokko's archgun but it exists
shoots 6 'bullets' at once, bunch of status
Arquebex is the only balanced necramech weapon ISH , and it's still kinda weak considering it's an exalted weapon
Decent primer I guess. I think other weapons outperform it tho
Say epi prime or kuva nukor primers
Or even cedo prime prob
I hope someone from de actually reads this
They won’t
Sadly
Do they even have a suggestion thingy anymore or
I forgot tbh
Can suggest things on the forums
Hm
Are you teaching them?
Kinda
finds newbie with deep pockets looking for a good Warframe , sells him the frame , sells him the build , teaches him how to use what I gave him and carry him in some missions , 50-400p profits compared to wf market min price
That's what I used to do at least , it's been 8 months since I last did that and it's noticeable seeing how tight plat is rn
Acbucep or something
Arbucep
Close enough
I think it's just pistols that are too strong...
Well we can't just go out here nerfing laetum and occucor to hell
Right?
People spent at least 250p building them fully just for de to nerf every pistol
Would be way more rational to buff and expand the necramechs
Buff and expand all the archguns , archmelees , archwings
And even expand railjack
Only if they bought the ocucor augment off the market pre naberus
And not during an event
Ammo nerfs happened, they're not beyond nerfing weapons
Even w out that god damn augment primed mods are pensive
Gud job
No let's nerf all secondaries
Where big weapons are similar if not more powerful than pocket nukes

What about Albrecht's lex prime :(
Halve the stats of every single secondary yea
Making archguns even stronger than the current most destructive weapons
Make it do inf damage so he can kill wally
Would they just empty the minimap or something
shot straight through shieldgate twice
Archguns should be stronger than DMG cap stahlta
Toxin mod
Stahlta isn't that strong
It was at some point
Terrifying. Someone should confiscate it
Was
Archgun incarnons could lowk save them too
Would anyone think this man would have a gun so strong it can go past shieldgate and down you immediately
One of the greatest mind in wf btw
Yeah he looks like a deity of some sort
A new hand touches the beacon or whatever
If not the greatest
The greatestest
I'm sure there are motives behind his actions
How they say
"this person is the reason intelligence and wisdom are separate stats"
You're talking to one of the most adamant Albrecht defenders this server has ever seen
Wisdom and intelligence are different tho
I know the motives, I know them personally
It's an old joke don't be a nerd about it
Hello loid
he has a whole notes section in the codex about his motives, he just manages to be smart in some ways and dumb in others
Im going to cry
I got the joke dw
I suppose
Sorry I'm just that nerdy , don't cry kiddo
He also canonically gets high as shit with loid, who greens out
Vosfor lines
😂
Nestawood cinders
It has an actual name
Its called nestawood. Its a root
Loid chewed. Too much of the root
You can even call it
And he got sick
Nestaroot...
after 10,000 years I'm free
mm, that should give you an honoria if it doesn't already
that, Cetus fish
A certain # of somachord songs
Nicee
Albrecht's voice is my favourite part of the character besides his. Devotion to being a self-deprecating wet rat
He sounds artificial at times but I love it too , very fatherly and complex
He has that autism accent ykim
He sounds genius and old
what word did wally drag out a ton when he was imitating albrecht
in the arg
Mhm mhm i know exactly what you speak of as a fellow
A lot of words 😭
mannn-cat
Sad how I haven't seen wally in quite some time
All the spawn places for him have been blocked by furniture

that shouldn't affect it..
Well he hasn't spawned in months
in orbiter yes?
what are the conditions for him to appear
Yes
Have you. Been in the orbiter all the time or
then idk
Oui
Because he will never spawn in the backroom without the chair
And. Drifter's camp has weird issues from memory
What chair
The operator throne?
The normal office chair
And ever since I placed the duviri owl where he sits he hasn't spawned there
Oh alright I'll place it somewhere I guess. It'll look kinda out of place considering I have only cavia chairs and sofas
Its the same chair Albrecht got mildly tortured in, and the same chair wally jumpscared us with when he pretended to be Albrecht in that chair
Ic
During. This cutscene
Ik ik

