spoiler-chat

[finite gorge]

Tempera amp skin

Then my visual are umbraed

[fierce kiln]

only void sling is disabled

the ink may make it harder to notice but you can still hear the cloaking sound

[zenith jacinth]

sometimes when you get slowed while carrying ink you get force-cloaked

[lofty girder]

There's a new amp skij

[lofty girder]

Main issue i found is sometimes ink isn't sticking, im halfway to the canvas and now ink is gone

[zenith jacinth]

then you just didn't pick up ink

[finite gorge]

I wish i could turn my account temporarily pc only. I miss people speaking

[zenith jacinth]

?

[lofty girder]

But the ink isn't there in the bucket anymore

[nocturne garnet]

bruh

[boreal pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/restart-meninblack-willsmith-gif-4771009

[uncut solar]

Devil's triad is actually the amount of times you have to reset before you can finally finish their storyline without it breaking

[balmy storm]

I think that’s due to an arcane, no?

[zenith jacinth]

no

[balmy storm]

There’s an arcane that puts you in void mode when you get hit by knockdowns

Ik it activated via the sticky ink when it did knockback

[zenith jacinth]

I don't have that arcane

so I doubt that it is that

[boreal pewter]

it's a mod not an arcane

[zenith jacinth]

ooo

[boreal pewter]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Talsek-An

[zenith jacinth]

ok checked I actually do have that mod

[balmy storm]

LOL

[fierce kiln]

ah the tauron sure footed mod i predicted jokingly

i laughed my shit off when i got it

[thick iron]

i have genuinely never interacted with this system even once ngl 😭

[balmy storm]

It hasn’t been out that long tbf
But you should at some point

[thick iron]

ngl i don't think i've even used a tauron strike ever

[balmy storm]

Even if you don’t like the strikes the fact we can mod our tenno is huge

[thick iron]

u right twin

the most i've got on my operator and amps are the arcanes

[fierce kiln]

my helminth charger will really need those +10hp +10shield +100armor

pretty sure this is the only relic item that doesnt give mastery

[boreal pewter]

correct

[flat magnet]

Of course it’s requirement in all endgame builds, I’m surprised it took you this long to get it

[fierce kiln]

only took nearly 2,6k hours

[flat magnet]

So what you’re telling me is you’ve been throwing the endgame runs

[fierce kiln]

i used to run adarza kavat and mostly use helios prime now

rarely kubrows

mostly helminth charger for the funny full strain mod set with nidus

[flat magnet]

I need to run Helios for the scans

[fierce kiln]

sadly the simaris helios mod that reveals extra weakpoints doesnt synergise with normal weakpoint interactions like incarnon charging

[steady inlet]

Guys, is this Ballas's fault?

[tight pagoda]

When in doubt, blame Ballas

[uncut solar]

This is why pets needed a generic stabilizer back then

They're freaks of nature

ESPECIALLY kavats

Idfk what's wrong with them, they're all extremely cursed and possessed

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-smeeta-kevat-kavat-cat-gif-1197901285401739002

[flat magnet]

I miss the abomination kavats, I wish I bought one off people when they were first appearing

[uncut solar]

There are sometimes abomination kubrows now

Physique is disproportional and textures are broken

[flat magnet]

Is it purely chance? Or did people do something special to glitch them out like that

[uncut solar]

Pure chance

[steep totem]

The way I heard it, it was 50% chance, 50% "someone was cursed and used a Kavat template and a Kubrow template in the same cloning session"

[balmy badger]

I used to know someone that had one of those Kubrow/Kavat hybrids.

It was a Kubrow, but had the head and tail of a Kavat, and broken textures.

[steady inlet]

Beautiful

[empty violet]

So I finished jade's quest last night and I have so many questions. The game didn't even explain it properly. Where can I learn more about them (jade,sorren,stalker,that child etc)

[obtuse gyro]

what do you want to know

[steep totem]

If you haven't already
Go to a relay, and somewhere next to Teshin's ghost hologram, there's some green feathers
Interact with it,
And make sure you have a box of tissues nearby

[empty violet]

I wanted to know if there's a continuation to the quest where everything is explained or it is done and I have to farm ascension stage for jade.

I haven't checked with teshin yet, so first I'll go do that. Thanks

[obtuse gyro]

the quest is too new for any of its future facing threads to be continued.

What do you need explained?

[empty violet]

Thank you for offering help.
But I'd like to check with teshin first then I'll come here if I still need some explaining. I want to explore all the threads in game first haha

[echo basalt]

well aside from parvos schenanigans

[tight pagoda]

The quest so far is mostly self-contained, the lore entry with Teshin is just some additional stuff, I don't think it particularly sheds light on anything within the quest itself

So if there's stuff in the quest confusing you, feel free to ask

[blissful dirge]

TY.

[obtuse gyro]

<@&778745217037238293> this one might have been compromised

[ebon gate]

wtf is that

[ebon gate]

Don’t run this mod btw

Legit useless

[tame canopy]

Still surprising to me that we can get this cosmetics via relic

First time ever heard of that for me

[zenith jacinth]

forma

[fierce kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-void-lugger-daklo-gif-4334627403413065645

[uncut solar]

Not a cosmetic

It gives some stat boosts

[solid otter]

IT DOES?

[zenith jacinth]

read the reply

[fierce kiln]

+10 hp +10shield +100 armor only to kubrows and helminth charger

[zenith jacinth]

ver y funne

[fierce kiln]

not predasites because i guess

[zenith jacinth]

I'm tired

predasites aren't good boys so they don't get the buff

[solid otter]

No bcs arent they inspired by lions or some shit

Amd that vulp...a... whatevers are

Foxes?

[zenith jacinth]

vulpaphyla
vulpine
fox

[uncut solar]

More like poopaphyla

[zenith jacinth]

pooplearbox

[uncut solar]

You could've said nuclearPoop

Unfortunately you aren't as funny as me

[zenith jacinth]

I am funnier

[fierce kiln]

yeah but you can put collars on any animal 😭

[solid otter]

I mean

Can you put a collar on a lion

Lyon, maybe, but im unsure about a lion

[zenith jacinth]

lyon would probably be putting the collar on drifter

[solid otter]

Nah

Theres a certain thing about that man during the kiss cutscene

[tame canopy]

they should make honoria for this grineer gear lol

[uncut solar]

Make it "Tenno Scoom"

[tame canopy]

^ perfect idea, right here

[zenith jacinth]

how do you have so much

[cerulean kiln]

How don't you? They're super common drops

[uncut solar]

Scrap confirmed fake ghoul purge fan

[zenith jacinth]

oh is it dropped by ghouls?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[zenith jacinth]

yeah I rarely go to the plains since there's nothing left there for me to get

[hearty pendant]

mars disruption will give you a ton

[misty veldt]

Do we have a map of where the operation currency spawns or no? Just curious on what crevices I need to look in

[finite gorge]

@leaden obsidian did rahethalius do this to you?

[leaden obsidian]

I don't know who that is or what you're referring to

[finite gorge]

stuffing 100 forma in your frame

[leaden obsidian]

Oh lol no that was my own idea. I'm working on 1000 rn

[uncut solar]

He is the 10000 forma Vauban

[finite gorge]

please document the journey somehow

[leaden obsidian]

The 210 vauban? That's the highest I've seen

[leaden obsidian]

I did document the 100 forma journey in this server

[uncut solar]

No, the 10000 vauban

[finite gorge]

that was aw-inspiring. but also his style to lets say... incite people into this kind of insanity

speaking of forma im out of forma again... back to the mines with me

[zenith jacinth]

I've run out of forma 3 times in the past week :D

[finite gorge]

i've been getting new adversaries stuff.. THEY HUNGER FOR FORMA

[uncut solar]

Honestly, no wonder he went downhill and eventually quit the game to focus on mental health

I've heard he returned though

[zenith jacinth]

I've just been building my dojo ;-;

[leaden obsidian]

@finite gorge

[rugged marten]

why are these locked?

[cerulean kiln]

Clan progress stuff

[rugged marten]

dang ty

[misty veldt]

What exactly does forma do?

[rain otter]

Lore wize or like

[misty veldt]

Gameplay wise

[rain otter]

What do you as a OUT OF UNVIRSE player use it for?

[misty veldt]

Like in modding stuff

[rain otter]

Okay so the point of forma is to use it to add or remove a polarity to be able to add more mods to the build.

[fierce kiln]

adds a polarity to a mod slot while resetting the level of the item youre modding to 0

[rain otter]

And be under 60 (with a reactor).

Also don't use it move a polarity

You can do that for free.

After you forma a item once.

[misty veldt]

So it let's me use bigger mods in my modding capabilities like archon mods into my frames

[rain otter]

Usually more not bigger necessarily but yes. Most full builds need a few forma. Reminder don't use a forma to MOVE a polarity you can do that for free. Also make sure to use a orokin reactor/catalyst to double your mod capacity.

Before you forma something.

[misty veldt]

Ah

[thick jolt]

Community rather than just clans

[rain otter]

A orokin reactor/catalyst doubles anythings mod capacity for 30 to 60. Well max mod capicty I guess.

[misty veldt]

I think i get it. I dont typically build as the auto feature is what I use and I dabble in helminth archon shards I've had the archon mods sitting in my inventory unable to properly fit them in and like over 100 forma last I looked ironically. I horde a lot

[rain otter]

If the item or pet or frame is at level 30 (or 40) you get exactly double cacpity

30 to 60.

[thick jolt]

It doubles however much you have (discounting auras)

[rain otter]

The catalsys and Reactors are also super cheap from the Nightwave shop. @misty veldt

[misty veldt]

Noted

[rain otter]

What mr are you?

[misty veldt]

14

Im like halfway to 15

I think

[rain otter]

This doesn't effect any like actual like top level thing.

But your MR determines what like amount of cacipty things "fall to" when you forma them.

They don't get anymore max cacpity at all

[thick jolt]

Not just when you forma it sets your base capacity always

[rain otter]

It does?

[thick jolt]

Yup

[rain otter]

I didn't know that.

[thick jolt]

It also affect the starting level of abilities after you forma

[rain otter]

Also it makes your warframe if you forma it at like it's level 14 (or whatever your mr is) when you froma it.

So you don't lose your 4th ability basically. So now is actually a good time for you to forma things lmao. @misty veldt

[thick jolt]

Like your abilities behave as if your frame was that level after formaing

[misty veldt]

Neat

[rain otter]

So when you forma a frame now

You don't lose your 4.

[thick jolt]

Yup

[rain otter]

Also if you ever hit mr30

It means you can DO ESO

With a level zero formaed frame.

[thick jolt]

Also the starting mod capacity formula is 15 plus half your mr

[hidden tusk]

Now I have a serious question

Is that bell looking armor back in the new event

If came when Roathe was doing his event in Descentia

But I wasn’t playing at the time so I gotta ask

[zenith jacinth]

?

you mean the lustratus shoulder armor?

[hidden tusk]

I think? Not sure on the same but it reminds me of bells

[fierce kiln]

nop

[echo basalt]

best your gonna get is a nitohk statue

[tight spoke]

The hex can get pissed at you if you reset your chemistry right?

I know roathe can

[solid otter]

Nah, not to my knowledge

[hearty pendant]

nope
there's only two characters that will respond to resets
and roathe is the only one that actually. does anything about it

[solid otter]

The reset is of a different nature, so thats probably why

[tight spoke]

Dope. Will I be locked out of any content for resetting?

I know Roathe gets mad but does he just throw a fit or can it cause his ending to be different?

[odd coral]

What do I do now since Eleanor somehow got stuck on the guardrails of the escalator and can't get to the gate

[hearty pendant]

a lot of his dialogue will change, but the endings will all remain available

[solid otter]

Nah, it doesnt change anything besides some comments

[tight spoke]

Dope, thank yall!

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't messing anything up since I want to date a few different members of the hex lol

well, aoi lettie and eleanor

[wild wind]

yeah it's just Roathe, because the lady writing the KIMs hates that people use KIMulacrum

[solid otter]

Nooo clearly making it ridiculously convoluted was just a joke!

[hearty pendant]

booleans Megrim and Migraine would like to speak

just the once, though

[solid otter]

The whole set of pointless Booleans for if you think wally is a god or not

Didn't stop the kimulacrum people at all

Just made it worse for the players

[tight spoke]

the devil's triad have soooooo many tiny booleans that mean nothing lol

[solid otter]

Shitty coding my beloathed

Id get smited for saying that but its true yk

[tight spoke]

megrim and migraine is probably the worst example but I raise you the 20 booleans about the drifter's faith

[solid otter]

Ohh tbf this can come into play during the Marie argument iirc

[hearty pendant]

those are brought up a couple of times as a way to check if you're being consistent, at least

but there are a lot of them

[solid otter]

Unnecessary and bloating

[tight spoke]

well that's concerning

because I 100% forgot which one I chose

[solid otter]

Nah, its to trick folk who think they can lie to Marie to romance her

[tight spoke]

i want to romance marie is the problem

[solid otter]

And you can check past conversations lol

[tight spoke]

I forgot about that

I am saved 🙏

[hearty pendant]

i believe there are options that avoid checking those? but i'd have to look again
in the important convos, i mean

[solid otter]

And you need to lie about more than them, its just one facet

[tight spoke]

probably, but i like avoiding kimalcrum where i can

[solid otter]

.. have you been agreeing with what she says about Albrecht?

[hearty pendant]

reasonable

[tight spoke]

though i am slightly concerned bc im getting close to marie's max trust and her dating thing hasn't popped up yet

[solid otter]

Thats. Probably a good thing

[tight spoke]

no i hate that guy lol

[solid otter]

Can. I ask why or

[tight spoke]

Why I hate him?

[solid otter]

Yeah, i like hearing reasons

Because some might just be misinformation [it happens a lot]

Favourite one being. He caused the nuke, or techrot

[tight spoke]

From absolutely everything we've seen of albrecht so far he makes his way through timelines breaking people and abandoning them, he did it to the cavia, all of the protoframes, and us
The drifter makes that argument several times and I agree with them. Also because he insists on killing off the hex- who he created- in service of some larger plot that he's too much of a crackpot to tell us about

[solid otter]

Woah.

He. Doesn't go through timelines

1999 is the real past

And the hex were predominantly killed by each other

[tight spoke]

Isn't it empirically confirmed he time travels, outside of the fact he was also around in the past

[solid otter]

The nuke was not his doing, and the hex would've tried to stop it regardless

Only one being Amir, which. Honestly would've been a mercy kill, id rather be shot than have my heart explode

I also would like to point out that doing the helminth injection actively halted their own techrot infestation, which helped them, even marginally

[tight spoke]

Regardless of that though, the rest of what I said I still stand by

[solid otter]

And that only goes for the hex

[hearty pendant]

that's a fairly reasonable interpretation of his actions tbh, compared to some others

its just the one timeline, and he's mostly leaving people to avoid endangering them via proximity
his refusal to tell anyone about his plan is a bit frustrating, though
he insists on killing off the hex to get you to care about them, and he completely swaps his view during Hex Finale

[tight spoke]

He still hurt so many people and the cavia too

[solid otter]

He did, but he didn't really have a choice i feel

He needed to leave the family

Because. The other option was to keep them at risk

Significantly moreso than what they would be at now

[tight spoke]

Again I know fictional characters and all that but what he did to eleanor and aoi broke my heart

well less what he did to aoi

[solid otter]

Oh that tongue thing? Pretty sure that's just. Techrot

[tight spoke]

Not that

[solid otter]

The. Mind control..?

[tight spoke]

Let me see if I can find it in her convos

[hearty pendant]

he gave them the serums to transform them, most of the rest were their own actions

[solid otter]

Mhm

Along with the other protos willingly accepting it

Lyon and marie having. Roach as an example

I wonder why some folk think that way and others think like I do

[tight spoke]

i cant find it in eleanors conversations what am i talking about

[hearty pendant]

the transformations are painful, though, according to each of the hex + roathe
though apparently it can be less so, if i am remembering marie's and lyon's convos right
the roundtable don't talk about their transformations in detail, apart from flare
n they're more concerned about lizzie than anything

[tight spoke]

there was some member of the hex who got really messed up from their transformation though

[solid otter]

I might remember it, depending on what it is

[tight spoke]

I know amir did, he might just be who I'm thinking of

[solid otter]

Is it. From the comic? Arthur talking about how his sister got. Rage and pain

Comic Albrecht was kinda funny

[hearty pendant]

i think its one of aoi's convos that you're thinking of?
can't remember exact wording, though. about the screaming

[solid otter]

... that's a lettie conversation

[hearty pendant]

hm

[tight spoke]

nah I'm thinking of amir

[solid otter]

Like okay why does your coat billow out like that in a building bro

Enclosed building and. Yet. His coat does this

[tight spoke]

aura

[tight pagoda]

Anyone have a screenshot of what the Dark Refractory steel path trophy looks like?

[solid otter]

Uhh

[tight spoke]

i may despise entrati, but i must admit he does have aura

[solid otter]

I dont. Hate him

I do, but

At the same time, I don't

Not for the reasons other people do

[hearty pendant]

mm, it is
misremembered because aoi's mentioned in it

Lua, it hurt
Wasn't the fun kind, either...
Aoi's screams were the worst
I could not help her, I was too busy dying too
She wept in fear and all I wanted to do was hold her

[tight spoke]

Amir's is the most heartbreaking to me

[solid otter]

Yeah, thats why I thought it was a lettie one 😭

[solid otter]

Mm, mightve missed that one or. Maybe I did it over a year ago and forgot

[solid otter]

Oh, yeah that might also be from. Probably his sensory issues that might come from adhd 😭 definitely worsened the experience

Ohhhh maybe it was really bad because of them being infested

[tight spoke]

Well yeah amir is intensely neurodivergent and was not a soldier

• the prior infection couldn't have helped

[solid otter]

Because uninfected folk seem to have an easier time

[tight spoke]

But entrati putting them through all of that pain and then just. screwing off like that

[solid otter]

He didnt just screw off

You know the atomicycles?

[tight spoke]

yeah

[solid otter]

He modified those for the hex!

He gave them stuff, prepared them

[hearty pendant]

he did help them, for a bit
the atomicycles and def some of their equipment (how does amir have an amprex that's a corpus weapon you can' t just manufacture that !!)

[tight spoke]

But- and I am genuinely asking, because I'm not sure- was he there when they were recovering and stuff? or did he prep everything in advance and leave after

[solid otter]

He didnt just leave them to figure it out for themselves, he was there

[tight spoke]

Weird, the conversations with the hex definitely gave me the impression he just up and left after

At least that's what they made it sound like

[hearty pendant]

i'm not sure its clear on either side, there
his dossiers def imply that he was around for a little while after, at least, but the hex talk like he disappeared after

[solid otter]

The dossiers on the protos are done after he did the injections, and. Iirc Aoi's refers to her ability to modify bikes, which. Obviously are used for the atomicycles

[tight spoke]

Yeah that's what I'm sayin, talking to the hex 100% gave me the impression that he was gone by the time they woke up

maybe just a case of weirdly written dialogue

[solid otter]

The hex can be wrong sometimes, better to run off actual fact than whatever biases they may hold

[tight spoke]

Or dialogue written and changed later

[edgy gyro]

NEW WAR SPOILER: what does my choice affect with the story/gameplay?

[solid otter]

Roach is a good example of something seeming accurate but being completely wrong

[tight spoke]

yeah, but arthur and lettie sounded the same way, and maybe I'm just misjudging their character but they seem like the type to remember what actually happened

[hearty pendant]

the name is permanent, the appearances can be bought with plat later

[tight spoke]

I think it's more just a case of dialogue being written without the future in mind

[solid otter]

Gameplay, whatever name you choose will be there forever.

[solid otter]

This. Happens a lot. In the kims

[tight spoke]

that confused me so much my first run tbh

[solid otter]

Roathe has a really good theory on why Rulsalka got ganked by wally, but he doesn't know about the ARG or Albrecht's last words to Loid, which goes against what he was doing

[edgy gyro]

margulis seems like a normal human

choices, choices...

[tight spoke]

do you know who margulis was?

[tight spoke]

I don't know the ARG either

[solid otter]

She was born as natah, forced to be Margulis, chose to be the lotus

[edgy gyro]

||ballas's lover?||

[tight spoke]

I do know albrecht's last words to loid (yaoi btw) but

[hearty pendant]

apologies to bring it up, but
nihil getting promoted to executor status in a KIM chat and then getting silently demoted back to just an executioner later:

[tight spoke]

not exactly

[solid otter]

Tldr wally pretended to be Albrecht and lured Neci into making a deal with him

[solid otter]

Ehhh, she was. Unfortunately.

[solid otter]

Old man yaoi.....

[tight spoke]

Maybe I also got the wrong impression from that quest but

[hearty pendant]

sorta
the more important part was her role in transference therapy and healing the tenno, then getting executed by the Seven later on
Natah mimicked her, and eventually became the Lotus

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pianistchenle-cat-cry-gif-sad-sobbing-crying-unhappy-gif-22350516

[tight spoke]

I disagree that she was his lover just on the premise that she was coerced/really had no choice

[solid otter]

Oh, no no, she did genuinely have a choice

[edgy gyro]

i guess she can be my margulis...

[solid otter]

Bad choice imo, but. Thays my opinion

[tight spoke]

agreed

[solid otter]

Taps sign

[edgy gyro]

hmmm

then lotus

[tight spoke]

Lotus is the best choice just because it's who she wanted to be, not something that was forced on her

at least in my opinion

[solid otter]

Dream of not who you are, but of who wish to be or whatever the quote is

[tight spoke]

oh the impression i got was that ballas kinda leveraged the tenno against her (and his power in general) and that he was being a pissbaby about the fact she favored the tenno over him

[edgy gyro]

she was lotus when we as tenno were born (or created an account) so i'll choose lotus

[tight spoke]

Dream not of what you are, but what you want to be

[spark brook]

New Wars Spoiler Pics inbound

[hearty pendant]

he was there before the tenno
but the last bit is correct yea

[solid otter]

They did love each other, but he. Did lose it a little

He got worse after she died

[spark brook]

Corporate needs you to find the difference between these two pictures

I was laughing here

[solid otter]

HAJAHA

[tight spoke]

LMFAO

[spark brook]

😭

[edgy gyro]

they're the same picture

[solid otter]

Oh thats funny

[tight spoke]

hold on I got you

[solid otter]

Ew Ballas get a shirt i dont wanna see your ugly ass chest

[spark brook]

Also here, he showed up with his goofy ass looking legs like “hey I’m still here dude”

[solid otter]

Nihil tho...

[spark brook]

Like I am taking a bathroom break rn but it kicked me to the login screen

Probably should spoiler tag that?

[hearty pendant]

just wait until you see ||the stupid golden leg he puts on later||

[tight spoke]

forgor the spoiler

[spark brook]

Oh lord that’s gonna be funny to watch then

[tight spoke]

god they're so dumb

i saw someone on instagram saying that specific version of ballas could get it

like girl who hurt you

[spark brook]

But he’s just so casual about that lmao. That’s what made me laugh 💀

But yeah if I didn’t watch a recap video, I’d have no idea what the HELL is going on

[tight spoke]

ive finished all of the quests and still have no idea what the hell is going on

warframe lore is an acid trip

[spark brook]

So while I don’t want to skip cutscenes, I am also just vibing and hoping for something that makes sense.

The scene at the end of the sacrifice… that was sweet

[tight spoke]

the sacrifice broke me

[spark brook]

||how we went into his broken mind and healed him, helped his pain||

[spark brook]

The rest of the quest… I was utterly uninterested and kinda bored

Idk I’m just here for the vibes dawg. If I have to do story missions to unlock stuff that’s fun to me, then so be it

[obtuse gyro]

just gotta breathe through the trip

aint all that confusing once you let the brain juices settle

[fading current]

Same…

[night grail]

Is your display name based on the halo novel

Anyways why do people think the voice in follie's hunt is nitokh

[uncut solar]

No it's a cult from Rogue Trader obviously

[uncut solar]

Because Nitohk is the center of attention now

And everything must be connected to her

[hearty pendant]

that one drawing probably

• recency bias or whatever

[uncut solar]

I pray for them to not make a garuda proto

[night grail]

Like let's be so fr I dont think any of the Seven would bother to have one on one "therapy" sessions with tenno

Especially not nitokh

[hearty pendant]

yeah, they have better things to do

like. bathing in blood or whatever nitokh was up to in that roathe vm

[night grail]

Yeah but theres also grendel and teshin and mesa drawings I dont think her having one means that much

[uncut solar]

Proto villain without a skin or kim stuff would rock though

[night grail]

Idk i just don't want them to give into the people who think every character ever should become a protoframe

[uncut solar]

I agree

[night grail]

It cheapens the concept

[uncut solar]

Protos completely lost their luster with the triad and I think they should stop

[night grail]

Not to mention the triad (gesturing vaguely)

[uncut solar]

But I can't deny that they still have ways to make it work

[fading current]

I think cuz of all the focus on her recently and that we get her statue in this operation. I can’t think of anything else as to why they think she’s the voice in follies hunt thou lol

[night grail]

Hey roathe has interesting insight into the orokin and lyon had that one interesting dynamic with rell and harrow

Marie has telling players entrati is not strictly good or evil, I guess

[hearty pendant]

there's a line where the voice calls herself an archimedean and that ruins the whole theory

[fading current]

Nahhh I need them to make at least 10 more thanks

[uncut solar]

It's more about game implementation. kim is straight up handled by a guest writer so I don't really feel like it's worth including into my list of complaints

[night grail]

Why is she even a statue for the operation it makes no sense 😭

[fading current]

Cuz she’s popular right now…idk lmao

I genuinely hope she doesn’t become a Garuda proto like everyone seems to be thinking outside of this discord

[hearty pendant]

i'd like more protos in the future, but def take a break from them for a while. they're a fun concept but i'd rather have quality over quantity
and uh. we all saw the state the triad released in

[night grail]

I mean yeah that too the hex were cool and novel and had a whole thing dedicated to them. The roundtable expand upon that whilst still have their own thing happening. The triad feels like them backpedaling because people were upset the roundtable had lore reasons they weren't dateable

[fading current]

Oh 100% I’d love more. Give me more! But yea they def need some space in between

A year or so without protos would be nice. Them returning back to them later on would add back the excitement over them. At least for me!

[night grail]

Honestly? 2 years. Maybe even 3

Give them some room to breathe and make them feel less forced

[hearty pendant]

give them some setup !

and add that one video as an introduction to the roundtable while you're at it

[night grail]

True I liked seeing arthur in Whispers and going "what the hell?????" Then being able to learn more from albrecht's notes

Plus the 1999 ARG and comic and everything giving more substance to Höllvania as a whole

[fading current]

Yea for sure. I mean I’d love for the hex to be focused on again. Without the stress of more protos being added. Seeing Lettie in the Voruna prime trailer genuinely made me so happy and excited. Like just seeing her in this TRAILER meant a lot to me. A time difference would def help would def build that hype back up. Like man seeing Lettie in an actual cutscene with a prime was CHILLING. I’m the one begging and waiting for the hex group to time jump to the future with us to help us fight. Or however that goes down. Give us more protos to add to our army? Sure. But give them more time to build character. I love the hex and roundtable more than I could EVER love the triad.

I feel like with the protos, the hex was the nail on the coffin on how the romance was gonna work. Anything outside of that…just feels awkward lol

There’s a reason the roundtable worked for me

[night grail]

I feel like the roundtable has like no Kim chats but they are just endearing

Especially velimir I love the guy

[fading current]

Flare had a lot of good chats tbh

So did the wonderful couple

Kaya was short but has great lore overall

[hearty pendant]

they have less chats but they're more purposeful
each of the roundtable is working towards something in their chats, rather than primarily worldbuilding/background/small talk

[fading current]

He’s the husband I want but the husband I can’t ever have cuz he’s forever Minerva’s

[night grail]

Like I engaged with the roundtable because I wanted to experience those characters but I engaged with the triad because I wanted to see loid reunite with the family

[fading current]

Also the whole Temporal Archimedea dialogue added on so much more lore.

[night grail]

True there are some actually neat tidbits there

Like Kaya finding albrecht and him letting her just yap and theorize

[shadow forum]

when is Albrecht coming to the tau

[night grail]

You say that as if he isn't already there

[fading current]

Bro probably has a whole settlement set up by the time we show up at this point lmao

[wild wind]

my question: where is Albrecht going to go if Operator's chasing him

Like, Tau's not his final destination

[hearty pendant]

Tau 2

[wild wind]

pft

[rain otter]

Void

But TAU

Being in the Void in tau or something might be it.

[wild wind]

Maybe an Orokin deep space fortress?

[hearty pendant]

something, something, scarne

[wild wind]

I'm trying to think if there are any locations that have been mentioned but never visited

....oh hey there's a thought

[night grail]

There are but none that are important

[rain otter]

Infested hive mind

[wild wind]

What about using the Dark Refractory to visit the Orokin Collapse

[obtuse gyro]

The first returning raid for warframe and its albrecht spooky void fortress

[hearty pendant]

eris,,,

[wild wind]

That's a real possibility

Arlo

oh wait no I'm a dumb

[rain otter]

I still think 3rd orb "raid."

[wild wind]

The Unum

[tame canopy]

what's your loot chat?

[tight pagoda]

What's Unity?

Decoration?

[tame canopy]

Just decoration

[tight pagoda]

From today's drop?

I thought it was just the toroids

Unless this is a community one

[fading current]

Did I miss something?? lol

[tame canopy]

It's a previous drop, I think clumped with today's drops

[balmy storm]

It was from today, the stream they raid after prime time almost always has another drop

[tame canopy]

I just realized that the new operation also canonized nightmare missions

Aspirant zorba explicitly mentioned Nightmare missions by name when we first get introduced to it

[uncut solar]

It wasn't just a bad dream after all

Huh

[fierce kiln]

they should add the lethal barrels back to make it an actual nightmare

Clueless~1

[tame canopy]

Zro
imagine actually dying to barrels for once

[cerulean kiln]

Imagine dying

[fierce kiln]

ultra nightmare: drains 10 plat per minute spent in mission

[cerulean kiln]

This is how it happened, this is how all Warframe players entered black plat state

[undone lodge]

Stamina and Plat revivals

[swift warren]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

Good old days

[fierce kiln]

add corpus stock insider trading before destroying another board members venture

[solid shuttle]

hi can help me login failed unknown error during install WFM profile fetch?

[solid otter]

Woah.

[steel hatch]

drifter camp?

[tight pagoda]

Correct

There's a trick to getting to the skybox and customizing it

[steel hatch]

how

[fierce kiln]

noclipping the decoration mode camera to enter the skybox area

[spark brook]

Edge of Dawn? No it isn’t

[tame canopy]

Toyed around with my valkyr, purchased some cosmetics

i'm bereft of inspirations so I mashed random colors, tried out random cosmetics

I think I kinda like the base valkyr helmet and its collar for evoking some sort of "escaped convict/experiement subject" vibes

Tomoe signa looks cool, from behind

it floats very far away from the head, but with this angle, it overlaps, which is a neat effect

[spark brook]

Chat I wanna like the story but like… 💀

I don’t know the characters enough. Yes lotus is important to my operator but I don’t really feel like I care enough for her dawg 💀

I am in “New War”. Like overall, I’m just

[solid otter]

.. take the time to enjoy the characters then?

[spark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/boccicord-gif-3989917567552955671

[spark brook]

How 😭

They don’t have much interaction I can do with them 💀

[cerulean kiln]

Almost the whole game is you interacting with her

[spark brook]

When second dream hit, I was like “yo I get it now! Does this mean we will get closer to lotus?”

Nah, she’s still Mission Control, no unique dialogue from her about finally remembering yourself, nothing like that

[cerulean kiln]

She’s arguably the second most important character

[spark brook]

🤷‍♀️

I’m still not even sure why she switched sides

[solid otter]

Oh you

Just missed a lot then

[cerulean kiln]

[spark brook]

I played the story dawg, I remember “apostasphy prologue” when Ballas is all “remember who you are” or something like that. It’s just like.. how did I get transported there? Was that a mind scape? SJJSJS

[cerulean kiln]

Blame most things on the main villain of the arc

[spark brook]

Aye aye

But yeah, I just feel like the game wants me to care about lotus (as a player) but hasn’t done much to really do that.

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas caused her to switch sides twice
Ballas caused the Naga Drums

[spark brook]

What did I miss?

[spark brook]

How though? Like was it some secret code word like a sleeper agent?

Like at least the sacrifice made some sense, it was self contained and was clear, though a bit boring gameplay wise:

but I feel like there is a lot of context I just don’t have here, the story just moves too fast. Maybe it’s because it was originally meant to be played over years so like I am not as invested? I did start around February after all

[cerulean kiln]

Operator couldn't handle not having their mother figure to the point Ordis had to make a fake version of her

[solid otter]

I. Also think that the majority of the lack of care for the lotus comes from. The lack of.. not exactly sentimentality the game may hold but. Something similar

[cerulean kiln]

Reprogramming

She's not human thus can be reprogrammed

[spark brook]

Ah fair fair okay then. Ballas is being terrible

[cerulean kiln]

The Orokin the class Ballas was one of were terrible people

[spark brook]

You mean me not caring sentimentality for the game? Or the game not portraying it?

[cerulean kiln]

The game did portray it in New War and the Sacrifice

New War showed the Operator freeze after witnessing it

The Sacrifice showed Operator trying to get her back which if there was a lack of care wouldn't have happened

They're very integral to each other

[round pawn]

To be fair a lot of us had Lotus as our mission control for years before Apostasy

So we grew fond of her as our Spacemom there too

[spark brook]

Ah then me then? Like bruh 💀

I am trying but like, it feels like this is more surface level characterization than anything. She is a mother character who cares about her children (Tenno) but like, I know little else about her. Where does she live at in between missions? (before reprogramming)

How did she make money when we were asleep? She out her selling Intel? Idk dkjdjdjdjdid.

Like I get her daddy (Hunhow I think) was disappointed in her for betraying her people but like… I guess I wanted to see more of that rather than being told 🤷‍♀️

Like

[spark brook]

Aye I assumed that is what I am missing.

[spark brook]

Ah yeah, I get the operator cares for her, it’s mostly me as a player who is all “well fine I guess I’ll do it”.

Like I did enjoy the war within and how the operator learns to not be so cocky because of their warframe. It was nice character development

As well as how they connected with umbra

That scene where we transferenced into him as he was in mental agony was just 🥺

In any case, New War is aight I suppose from where I am at (just got to some cutscene where we are in a ship before I called it for the night). Just a bit disappointed because I heard about the lotus’ arc beforehand but I was really hoping to get to love her as a character so I would want to save her as a player. If any of yall ever played ff14 before, no spoilers but uhh I cried really hard during some scenes in that game

[undone lodge]

Yeah, for the most part until now Warframe’s relied on built-up attachment over time, select impactful moments, and the player’s own ability to invest in and get attached to the characters through their content

• a bunch of stuff being missed out on because of their limited time nature

[uncut solar]

It worked for me still bc I took the game super slowly

Rushing the story would probably feel very weird

[undone lodge]

It’s only recently we got better systems to actually meaningfully interact with the characters outside of moments in quests, beyond the Syndicate rank ups that have also been improving

[cerulean kiln]

There's some people who rushed to New War so didn't care for Lotus as much
There's some people who had to wait years for New War

Not having your mother figure for years definitely affected it

[spark brook]

I think it’s also relevant here what “rushing” means. I started in February. I don’t feel like I rushed through the story at all.

However the story released over YEARS, so it might seem like I rushed because of that.

Which tbf isn’t a fault of my own, it would be unreasonable to tell newer players to wait the same amount of time to get the same impact

In any case I hear there is a dating sim in this game so I am hoping I can get what I crave there (main character interactions)

[cerulean kiln]

Telling people to wait between quests is morso due to how much info you get in each which can lead to not caring about events and characters as much

[spark brook]

Sure but how long would you recommend people wait between quests? Like I got to new war over the course of 2 months or so. I paced out things because I was having fun grinding open world stuff and like, railjack (railjack is awesome). I will admit I am expecting a different level of story telling than what the game offers. Coming from a jrpg (heavy as hell storytelling) to hour long missions is a big difference and I am not setting my expectations right.

Like I’ll admit part of this is me. But not for a lack of trying

||I was sad when Kahl thought he was gonna sacrifice himself to save his brothers 🥺||

[cerulean kiln]

Maybe at least a week or 2

Rushing them also often ends up with many players getting the quests wrong then spreading that wrong info along

It's better to soak it what you have than do it all straight away

[spark brook]

Aye I think the game has a bad onboarding for new players tbh. I am lucky I had 2 friends guide me through because ooooo WEEE it was confusing at first.

Like learning some important side quests like “deadlock protocol” used to be main story? Like djdjdjdjddj, that made me realize there are a lot of side quests that need to be done.

[spark brook]

For sure. Like after new war, I plan on chilling a bit. I know I just got the Bonerwidow mech, and like 4-5 new warframes about to finish today. With double credit weekend plus the boosters I hear you get from new war, I am gonna be cozy 🙂

planning on doing railjack survival because I wanna try out that new Necramech 👀

[tame canopy]

No damm way, a rare container with a forma!

[thick jolt]

Deadlock is quite safely sidequest stuff

Parvos hasnt really done much even on the sidelines

[spark brook]

LESS GOOOO

[cerulean kiln]

Inb4 we suddenly see Parvos trying to get to Tau

[spark brook]

I’ll take your word on that but like, it seems like it should be important to do? It does feel bad to see random people locked up and not be able to help them.

[round pawn]

Just to add, as someone who waited the real time years to get Lotus back, I went through all the stages of processing what I felt about it and what it meant for the story

So in my case she really was gone for a while

But I can't imagine how it is for new players where you can see Lotus leave and then get her back in a span of a couple days

[thick jolt]

The whole of fortuna is a bit of a bigger problem tbh

[spark brook]

Aye aye. Like it’s definitely a pacing issue then. The story for newer players feels more like an afterthought.

Rather than a cohesive narrative like I’m used to.

[thick jolt]

Like systemic debt slavery where people have their body parts repossessed

[cerulean kiln]

Parvos is a scammer

[solid otter]

I mean, I do fully think its achievable to have that connection even after all the updates happened

[spark brook]

I will say, I do enjoy Eudico. She’s has the vibe of a lady in her late 20s or so trying to do right in a bad situation

[solid otter]

Using myself as an example, i am. Incredibly attached to the entrati family

Almost 6 years ago that update came out

I only started playing 2 years ago, really only getting into it about 1 year ago

[spark brook]

They are cool!!! Son (forgot his actual name we get after ranking up) is such a mood when he hyperfixates on animals and such.

I did rank up the entrati family 😎

[solid otter]

My attachment to them is strong enough for me to immediately not like Marie after her argument and. Apparently thats insane to some

[spark brook]

Sorry who is Marie?

[solid otter]

Oh you'll. Learn about that later

Shit

You uh. Have you done whispers in the walls yet or

[spark brook]

I’m in the spoiler channel it’s fine. I knew the risks

[solid otter]

Because i need you to not do that quest yet

[spark brook]

Nah, I’m currently on new war. I took a break during a ship classroom segment. Plan on finishing it tonight when I have time

[solid otter]

And I need you to go rank up necraloid

[spark brook]

I did. Rank 3 with Loid, rank 5 with entrati family

[cerulean kiln]

Did you wait 4 years for the big man like me?

If you didn't you aren't a real Entrati Family nerd

[solid otter]

Oh! Wonderful!

Okay so. Did you notice the panels on the back of the room in necraloid's area?

And have you listened to them

[cerulean kiln]

I remember when Whispers was first coming out I was trying to find what room it was gonna be and no captura matched so I had only one other location it could be

[spark brook]

Aye! Demios is my favorite open world. Like I started the game December 2024, dropped it for like 2 years until February (or late January Idr) after I got a soulframe sword skin code.

Like maybe Cetus (which I did during my initial play of it years ago) explains the fishing and hunting better but like I really felt like I understood how each path of gaining standing worked. I get animals for Son so he can cure and:or protect them

Fish for daughter, open world junk for father, missions for mother, and grandmother just being a wholesome lady

Like when I played again in February, I did fortuna and I didn’t get the vibes of why I would want to do open world stuff like I did with the entrati fam

[spark brook]

I did not know they were there so no. I shalt have to investigate

[undone lodge]

Yeah they’re trying to go back and fix it every now and then but the story is definitely very Mid/End-game heavy

[solid otter]

Just remember. Do not start whispers in the walls
-# yes ik its almost pointless to the others, I want them to feel rewarded for ranking the family and necraloid up

[solid otter]

Its supposed to be found before the new war, but. It still would be fun. Also, did you play duviri?

[undone lodge]

The Teacher quest was a recent addition, for example, they also went back and changed some stuff in Once Awake, Awakening got another redo, IIRC some of the early Vor stuff too? There’s also less story-heavy but still substantial additions like Follie post-Chains of Harrow and Koumei in the early game

[spark brook]

Not yet. My friends recommended I don’t start it until after new war so it made sense

[solid otter]

Ideally you find them before chains of harrow but. Alas

[solid otter]

Okay, do duviri first, then whispers in the walls..maybe you should do angels of zariman before whispers too

[steep totem]

Someone recommending Duviri before New War?

FINALLY

[solid otter]

Nup, its. Been recommended as after

[spark brook]

I mean I’m on currently on New War 😂

[spark brook]

As a new player (relatively) I think what really needed a redo is just having more interactions with the characters we are supposed to care about 💀

Not easy to do pre second dream when we don’t have the operator yet to bounce dialogue with, but it would have helped substantially for me to hear some random banter or back and forths with Lotus during star chart missions or the orbiter.

[steep totem]

Lotus/Ordis banter would be peak

[spark brook]

To better show their bond and connection.

Otherwise it only happened in main missions, in which there are only like 2-3 before Lotus gets reprogrammed

Like it’s definitely an issue with where second dream is placed tbh.

[zenith jacinth]

wdym reprogrammed

[solid otter]

[ionic sleet]

[zenith jacinth]

that dude is speedrunning a ban or smth, just saw the same in fanart

[undone lodge]

Unfortunately OG VA is gone

And they don’t want to replace his lines

[steep totem]

Am aware he retired
So, yeah, they're not going to add new banter

Still would have been peak

[thick jolt]

Well they cant add banter in old content, but for new content it should be possible

[spark brook]

Idk. I barely understand what sentients are aside from a creation by the orokin

[zenith jacinth]

[cerulean kiln]

They were able to replace old lines before

They did that sort of thing multiple times

[thick jolt]

In the sense the old va isnt available anymore and they dont wanna replace his lines

They stated it when they announced the new va

[uncut solar]

I'm honestly surprised that Lotus and Ordis don't really interact

[cerulean kiln]

Probably because Ordis serves the opposite task to her that's still somewhat related

Lotus is the mission coordinator
Ordis is a butler that houses all the gear somewhere

[uncut solar]

That one GladOS and Wheatley "go and get me another beer" drawing

[static agate]

Yup that would infact do it XD

[shadow forum]

Ok big question,what we can expect in The TAU for this year.

[cerulean kiln]

Tau system

[balmy storm]

Sentients probably
Maybe Railjack, we know that’s getting content but we don’t know what for
Lots of cool lore

[cerulean kiln]

DE haven't told us anything past Tau 2026 so the only thing we can expect is a system called Tau

[shadow forum]

But in old peace we only got 2 things seen.

Relay of the school

And a planet battlefield

[cerulean kiln]

That's Old Peace

You asked Tau 2026

[shadow forum]

Yep so I hope we see it.

[cerulean kiln]

Seeing Tau is all we know

We haven't got anything details wise past what we know

[shadow forum]

True

[spark brook]

I vote we get Yareli heirloom/human skin for unspecified reasons

[shadow forum]

wait yareli and nokko

[balmy storm]

Nokko proto would be a child probably
So
Would Albrecht infect a child?

[shadow forum]

We will see in the December.

[zenith jacinth]

sevagoth and hydroid protos hopium

[cerulean kiln]

He did infect a child by infecting a mother

[zenith jacinth]

I want doomed pirate yaoi

[balmy storm]

That’s Ballas, not Albrecht

[zenith jacinth]

...I should yoink the hydroid maxxing while I can

[balmy storm]

Also Ballas wasn’t involved with Nokko afaik
But he was involved with Yareli

[uncut solar]

the thin line between "it would be ironic" and "i shouldnt endanger a child"

[balmy storm]

Same

[steep totem]

Hmm
Maybe if it was a situation something like Marie
Now, I know he didn't give her Wisp serum just to let her "walk"
But I could see him making a child protoframe if it was the only way to save their life
Only question would be: why is this child/ren so important to him?

[zenith jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[balmy storm]

Being a proto would just ruin their life tbh

[zenith jacinth]

I feel like it'd be very funny if nidus proto was some basement dweller or smth, since both nidus and basement dwellers just kinda find a good spot and stay there

[steep totem]

I mean
If their lives are already ruined (orphan+homeless)
What's left to make worse?

[balmy storm]

Being infested????

[cerulean kiln]

He might've been because I honestly can't see a reason Nightcap would even know Nokko wasn't made by Ballas

[steep totem]

casually writing the backstories as I go along lol

[balmy storm]

Nokko’s just weird ngl

[zenith jacinth]

remember, being transformed is not painless :D

[flat magnet]

Do you think the serum would stunt their growth or would the strain grow with them?

[steep totem]

Fair

[balmy storm]

Good question

There is all the pain
Then there’s the hivemind
And depending on how that works you may never truly die, just subsumed into the hivemind

[flat magnet]

If it didn’t just have a lil gremlin committing atrocities across the solar system with a child soldier giving them tips

[balmy storm]

If I got the offer I’d really have to think about it
Cause
Becoming a proto may have some up sides but it’s mostly downsides

[zenith jacinth]

...mirage proto would 100% be some joker type character

oh lovely, my internet is going the way of the dodo again

[undone lodge]

The honourable Zhenren Zhōuliù saving the infested youth with Yareli, Nokko and Nezha strains in Hongkong 2078

[flat magnet]

I think one of the main ones outside of the infested influence would be acc controlling and using the power

[undone lodge]

Or whatever it’d be named on WF Earth

[zenith jacinth]

wukong is also there, purely by association

[flat magnet]

you sneeze and suddenly an entire city block is just gone

[undone lodge]

Wukong’s the guy who helped take care of them while Entrati did important research. Such as ways to weaponise his love poetry for the Grimoire

[zenith jacinth]

"these kids need a caretaker"
turns some random homeless guy into wukong proto
-albrecht, probably

[steep totem]

He'd probably already be taking care of them
Sort of like the Hex was (mostly) already a group

[zenith jacinth]

the wukong proto tried to fistfight albrecht bc he thought albrecht was injecting them with illegal substances

[steep totem]

Or we could do a Son Wukong reference with his backstory!

[balmy storm]

Goodluck learning how to use those, the Hex were still struggling after a year minimum

[undone lodge]

Reading Journey to the West
Remembers how he created Qorvex
looks at the monkey in some rich guys private zoo in the tower he bought

[steep totem]

...nvm, I like that better

[undone lodge]

Proto Lavos is also there for some reason. Entrati doesn’t know how or why, he didn’t bring any extra injections or strains, the guy just popped up one day

[zenith jacinth]

he acts superior to albrecht bc he actually does know more about alchemy

[balmy badger]

That would indeed do it.

[tidal scaffold]

Does anyone know the best way I could grind out Scaldra Dedicants?

[thorn zephyr]

I think the Follie's Hunt narrator is Nitokh
(Not sure if that'll be a spoiler thought or a lore thought, but here I am)

[zenith jacinth]

nope, nope, that'd make no sense

[gilded wharf]

toxin good on saw i cant remember

[balmy storm]

From what I’ve heard and seen the therapist is an Archimedean

[undone lodge]

It’s an archimedean

Calls herself one in dialogue and her voicelines in the files have it in their names

[undone lodge]

The dialogue was like “I am the archimedean. You are the subject/whatever word she said”

[balmy storm]

Is that new for the operation??
I swear I’ve been hearing new lines in the operation version of the gamemode

[undone lodge]

I don’t think so?

Found it on the wiki a bit early into the operation release for it to be an edit, potentially before I don’t recall exactly when, but didn’t exactly check the edit date of the page

[cerulean kiln]

Seems the same for me

[lethal vortex]

Welp, now that i'm on loved with Marie, time to get the remaining captura scenes, break up with her, and try to get all the remaining captura scenes from one of the other devil's triad protoframes, repeat, and get all the remaining ones from whichever one is last, then reset

And try to be on best friends status with them all on the reset

[edgy gyro]

i want to ask something about darkSector, is Hayden Tenno the fist ever Tenno before Warframe?

[thick jolt]

There is no connection no

Just easter egg level stuff

[tight pagoda]

She looks majestic

[tight pagoda]

Completely disconnected

[edgy gyro]

ahhh thanks guys

[tight pagoda]

darkSector in Warframe only exists as a novel/movie and WARSECTOR by a fictional, evil version of Digital Extremes

[thick jolt]

Yup and some minor easter egg type stuff

Like the dark sector skin for excal and glaive

And nyx

[tight pagoda]

And internally, I think some of the Hollvania stuff is marked "Lasria"

If you type visit.lasria when logging into the game instead of your username, it has a fun Benchmark test

[thick jolt]

But yeah much like soulframe their games are kept separate

[tight pagoda]

Added a Teshin bust to her scepter to make it look like she beheaded and impaled a Dax

[high tendon]

wait a minute, you can scale it that large or is that a visual trick

[wild wind]

Visual trick

It's like how you could make giant chair Wally

[high tendon]

beautiful

[tight pagoda]

There's a trick with the camp where you can enter the skybox and place directions there

[high tendon]

im guessing the skybox for inside the landing craft is its own ‘instance’ when compared to exiting it and going to the rest of the orbiter

[tight pagoda]

Oh, she's visible from the camp too

Gimme a second I'll provide more screenshots

Holy aurafarm

Almost want to get rid of Teshin now to see what that looks like, gimme a second

[balmy badger]

My pants would be soiled if I logged into that staring at me through the window.

[tight pagoda]

Aw the sun moved

[spark brook]

YALL i HATE TO BE MEAN BUT THE LIGHTING NEEDS SOME WORK

[rough elm]

I fed Nitokh to my Helminth bc she was a real POS to Roathe ngl.

[spark brook]

My Tenno is getting canceled for that

[rough elm]

A 3 light thing would be the fix

[spark brook]

FINALLY SAW IT!! IT LOOKS JUST AS STUPID AS YOU SAID

[spark brook]

As in something I can do on the settings or DE as the devs?

[rough elm]

Something you can do in Capturas

[spark brook]

This was the base game screenshot

not a captura

[rough elm]

Yeah I know but the best fix is to go to captura and use a 3light setup

There's a scene that is just like that

[spark brook]

ah okay. Idk if I can do that rn?

Ah okay yeah, this is the middle of new war

I don't got access to it atm

I think

[rough elm]

They already improved the lighting recently so I don't know if they can improved it without causing more bugs than we already have

[spark brook]

Fair yeah

I am more laughing at how it made my drifter look

[rough elm]

Yeah idk which settings you have but sometimes lighting reflects badly with certain face blends or colors which can definitely cause some issues

[deft mist]

Ha i wanted to beat him with it

[high tendon]

gimme an abridged tutorial
cuz thats actually so cool lol

[spark brook]

We need it as a weapon skin

[tight pagoda]

1. Stand on this branch right outside the landing craft, as high as you can go.
2. as you can see, you can't climb the full thing. Even decorating, your camera won't go higher. But from there, place a few decorations right at your feet, leading up and out. 2-3 mastery plates would do, for example.
3. Climb out onto the decorations. Upon entering decoration mode, you can now go outside of the invisible ceiling.

4. Head high up (higher than even the image) and go in this direction. If you were looking out your landing craft window, it'd be left
5. keep going until you reach the corner.
6. Go underneath this corner and head back to the main area. Be careful not to touch anything.
7. Again, be very careful because there's some boxes and stuff that will be hard to see during nighttime.
   8.When you're directly under camp, just keep going down for a couple minutes

9. Eventually everything disappears-- not a fade, just suddenly gone. If you look directly down, you're now in the skybox

You can now mess around with decorations and stuff

[high tendon]

🙏 thank you this is actually really cool
-# and also sorta kinda how soulframe handles its nightfold area

[steep totem]

LOL
Go so far out of bounds you end up in another game entirely

[high tendon]

no joke lol it is always directly under the player

exhibit A

[soft lotus]

hey hold up
what is that

[balmy storm]

Hard(er) mode :)
Supposedly there’s a book in the cathedral that gives you a hint about it
But if you just want the answer
||Equip Uriel and bow to the Lotus||

[wild wind]

oh come on there was a hint?? now I feel bad lol

I just looked it up

[hearty pendant]

supposedly
i've looked around for a while n didn't find anything but i may just be blind
or its removed after you unlock the mode, idk

or you have to translate one of the books but that'd be evil /s

[wild wind]

    "Then the people went unto the Mother of Devils, by the Well of the Bitterness of Years.
    And she did raise up one of her own to take on the burden of great strife.
    And the devil did bow unto the Three-Faced Mother, and went forth in mutual guilt."```

nooooo I was hoping it was fake

[hearty pendant]

'Well of the Bitterness of Years' is an interesting name
accurate, i suppose

[wild wind]

yeah it's an absolutely killer name

[balmy storm]

Where is the book even

I tried to find it but couldn’t lol

Also is that like
Basically a prophecy???
Who wrote that
How did they know

[wild wind]

https://klipy.com/gifs/warframe-warframe-1999

(probably Albrecht)

[hearty pendant]

i mean, if its spiritual text, it was there before he was

[balmy storm]

Probably
But how did he know

[wild wind]

found it

First pew on the right as you enter

[balmy storm]

Bruh I LOOKED THERE 😭

Thank you lol

Is that model unique? Or reused

[wild wind]

reused

[hearty pendant]

i want to say reused? but i've not looked at any of the other books that closely

[deft mist]

They literally call her the three faced mother now

[hearty pendant]

eleanor called her the triple-faced goddess in the tennocon mall relay iirc

[deft mist]

Oh

[balmy storm]

Was just about to say that lol

[wild wind]

wait no, the A shape is new

[balmy storm]

It’s cause she has three personalities in her btw

[wild wind]

A without the bridge

[balmy storm]

I THOUGHT SO

[deft mist]

Sorry i hear three faced and i think of hecate or the morai

[wild wind]

dammit the Assassins have hacked their way out of the er memory machine I forget the name of

[wild wind]

That's what it is!

Maiden Mother and Crone or Witch

[balmy storm]

Maiden, mother, crone

Wait maybe Albrecht did write it but it’s not a prophecy but the activation!
Since that’s his refractory!

[hearty pendant]

"I was the Daughter. I became the Mother. In time, I shall be the Witch, blind once again, empty of all but wisdom."
mm, these lines don't play anymore, do they
not post-old peace, i mean

[wild wind]

correct

which is a shame because they go hard

[solid otter]

Ohh these are cool

[spark brook]

FINALLY FINISHED NEW WAR

[next imp]

https://tenor.com/view/we-love-gale-warframe-descendia-roathe-gif-16096264799311189449

[deft mist]

Crone

[neat obsidian]

now you can start the True Endgame. Operator fashion

[grim totem]

is the dialogue in follies hunt between an archimedean and a tenno?

[hearty pendant]

yea

[undone lodge]

Ts Nihil sees when I tap on the Oubliette

[hearty pendant]

"I am the Archimedean. You are the subject."
when getting knocked down

[grim totem]

ye i was looking at the quotes on the wiki, never been down in the mission so that one surprised me

[hearty pendant]

• the archimedean diadem in the operation shop leans towards it too
  which has just reminded me, i should go get that..

[undone lodge]

Her voicelines are also called archimedean in the files

[solid otter]

Tapping and poking him

[fierce kiln]

when anything remotely bad happens in your life and you scream CURSE YOU BALLAS!!! because hes probably behind it somehow

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas caused pixel fumblers to fumble trust

[thick iron]

de gave me the 75% coupon lmao really considering using some of ts on follie because grinding this gamemode out is... not my idea of fun ngl

[zenith jacinth]

bruh it's basically free, don't do that

[cerulean kiln]

Pity currency
Use it on literally anything else

[spark brook]

With that much plat, I say go for it if you want it.

But I’d recommend getting other goodies first like primes you’ve been wanting, maybe a cosmetic or two for the orbiter (get the fish tank!!)

[solid otter]

True fishtank was worth

[spark brook]

Aye. I said to myself “whenever I get a discount on plat, I am buying that”

I got a 60% discount so I did buy it

[gaunt star]

ok so

got the fifth letter

let's all give a round of applause to Follie for joining the ranks of :
"last living original warframes"

[tame canopy]

can you trade for liches in the wf market site?

like do they list them?

I know u can't trade the weapons directly, but I saw ppl trading liches so I got curious

[zenith jacinth]

couldn't you just
check

[tame canopy]

Well, I ask because I don't see it, but I know kuva lich gear comes with their name + weapon name so I was wondering

Like, I thought I was missing something I guess

I guess since searching kuva only shows me some scene trading, I can only assume for whatever reasons, nobody sells their liches in the market

[zenith jacinth]

or it's just not something you can list, idk

weird market

[tame canopy]

guess I'll just ask occasionally on discord and hope for an offer
I won't do it now though, I'll wait til the next plat coupon

[thick jolt]

It is a specific section of warframe market iirc, contracts maybe?

Think it was something that sounded like that

[tame canopy]

ok found it

looks like it slipped my attention : P
well, this is good news, so thank you delta 🙏

[zenith jacinth]

ooohhhhhhhh

[round rampart]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[cerulean kiln]

DE pulling out the sniper

[fierce kiln]

you can get the weapon of the lich the person you got it from converted, which means they didnt get the weapon

after trading that lich becomes your active one so you can then decide on converting it or not

[tame canopy]

Ngl i never traded liches before so idk how they work

Like what entails that transact?

[fierce kiln]

also since were at the topic, its a common misconception that you only get their ephemeras if you kill them, you get them from either choice, so you can essentially convert it so you and another person can get the ephemera from that lich

also, a lich you got from a trade cant be traded again if you were to convert that one too

[spark brook]

First off dawg ain’t nobody entitled to help you god dang!!! Please google stuff if you’re stuck, there are guides out there.

But I like being nice and I hate this section so

To defeat the jackal you need to first shoot its joints to remove its shield. After that, it’s gonna go up and start doing the spinning move. From here you need to shoot it down with your gun until it falls to the ground.

ONCE ITS ON THE GROUND get your breacher MOA (exploding robot) to explode it. The second time around will require a shield to protect your moa from electricity

@calm horizon

[calm horizon]

Ok so I'm putting the shield on the explody one and sending it at the jackle it explodes and is doing 0 Dmg

It's either that or my shield drone isn't following the explody drone even though I told it to go with it

[zenith jacinth]

incredible, being angry and then saying "I like being nice"

[spark brook]

Honey, that ain’t me being angry 🤭

[zenith jacinth]

not particularly nice either tho

[cerulean kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-maul-what-fun-star-wars-rebels-maul-gif-16192108

[spark brook]

Hmmm. When I was doing it, I just activated the overcharge ability (idk the keyboard control) while the moa was walking, I don’t believe you need to follow it?

But when are you sending it to the jackal? Like it needs to be on the ground with red health bars up (I think they turn red)

[solid otter]

I was gonna come in happy from the puderschmude experience but what the hell

[calm horizon]

Sorry I didn't mean to sound entitled I was just annoyed because I was stuck trying for an hour not realising my drones were bugged. I reset did everything again and it worked also I'm on Xbox. It pc

[zenith jacinth]

the what

[cerulean kiln]

Happy?
What's happy?
Who's happy?

[solid otter]

Clown i like, anyways what happened

[spark brook]

Ah I heard that the drone can do that. It didn’t happen to me so I didn’t know what to look for.

Also mood lol, I got really pissed during that section, it’s annoyingly difficult

[cerulean kiln]

Nothing happened

[zenith jacinth]

a clown... explains the name being german nonsense lol, valid reason

[solid otter]

That is true, very clown thing to do

[cerulean kiln]

Can we throw Thomas into the Void for being Orokin?

[solid otter]

Awh man

Darn

[spark brook]

Nah, If it’s anything like that other orokin we know about ||ballas|| he is gonna come back again somehow

Just jail him

[solid otter]

Dw, you'll learn soon

But. He did fall into the sun

So.

If you know an orokin who can live through falling into the sun, id love to meet them

[zenith jacinth]

he never returned

[solid otter]

They haven't finished the story shut scrap

[spark brook]

I still don’t know if orokin are supposed to be long lived 💀

Like are they like fantasy elves where they live super long?

[solid otter]

They kidnap children and force their minds into the child's body

Immortality and continuity :)

It didnt start with children but

[zenith jacinth]

shouldn't be in spoiler chat

[solid otter]

It certainly ended with children

[spark brook]

Nah it’s fine, I knew the risks coming here.

Besides I don’t really care too much about the story. Like for new war ||I did care enough to choose what I thought was the best name for Tenno mom because like, the game is about identity||

But not enough to really understand the significance of her plot

Just didn’t have the investment 🤷‍♀️

[solid otter]

Fair enough. Again, I get it. I'm more invested in the entrati than the lotus and that

[spark brook]

100%

[solid otter]

Heh. You'll learn soon but. They become important again

https://tenor.com/view/япі-yappi-gif-8852310440228889797

[cerulean kiln]

They never stopped being important after Albrecht solved their energy crisis

[zenith jacinth]

important in the story, nemesis

[cerulean kiln]

They never stopped being important in the story

[solid otter]

Story, not lore nemesis

[zenith jacinth]

I don' think nemesis can comprehend things not being lore

[spark brook]

Yay!!

I am probably gonna do some random fun stuff today instead of story that’s for sure. After long war, I need some gameplay I enjoy.

Might do railjack survival fissures for ducats.

[zenith jacinth]

RAILJACK ENJOYER

you have good taste

[solid otter]

Oh! Remember that thing i mentioned? The panels behind necraloid?

They're. Related to railjack i think

[zenith jacinth]

very slightly yes

I wonder if there's still anything in the origin system that runs on

https://tenor.com/view/oil-legends-of-avantris-gideon-once-upon-a-witchlight-gif-15258379569528471348

[solid otter]

I know they are, just. Depends on how the other person understands it

[spark brook]

I know I do 💅

Like I got bonewidow recently and I’ve been wanting to use her more! On top of that I just had a large batch of warframes finish yesterday so I got a lot to level up ❤️

[solid otter]

Bonewidow!!!

She is the worse out of the two, but i like her more

[zenith jacinth]

BOOONEWIDOWWW??

[zenith jacinth]

nah bonewidow is better

[solid otter]

Ehh, for different things

Id say the voidrig's 4 is better than her's

[zenith jacinth]

being locked in place is very rough

[spark brook]

Yeah!! Bonerwidow is cool, I haven’t unlocked her 4 yet, but I will.

Just need more endo to upgrade the modssssss 😭

[spark brook]

True that. It is best used once you group your enemies together.

[zenith jacinth]

my bonewidow can do missions much faster than my voidrig, only use I really have for the latter is eidolons

[solid otter]

Realistically what missions can you use her with

Like. Railjack once you unlock it iirc

[zenith jacinth]

rj, free roam, lua survival

temp archimedea, sanctum missions

[spark brook]

I don’t count Lua survival because while you CAN use a Necramech, it usually averages out to like 1-2 times depending on how long you’re running the mission thanks to the long cooldown.

[solid otter]

Mm, sanctum missions require a good enough spawn

Temp Archimedia. Also relies on a peely pix, right?

[zenith jacinth]

ye

[spark brook]

But free roam is a beautiful tile to use a Necramech. Like especially if you are doing defense type missions

[solid otter]

Mhm

I like bonewidow mainly for her lore, tbh. Tiny shred of lore she has

Relationship goals

[zenith jacinth]

not.. really?

just gotta find a pc and summon them

[solid otter]

I mean. When was the last time you found a pc that wasnt the big room with the opening to the void

[zenith jacinth]

a lot of times

[solid otter]

Because that mf spawns eximus and it pisses me off

[zenith jacinth]

pretty much never see a pc there

[solid otter]

What? Isnt that tile a. Hold kn

Albrecht time

Mm, cant see it here

[tribal moat]

When will the next heirloom skin come?

[zenith jacinth]

in the near or distant future

[tribal moat]

More specific please

[zenith jacinth]

can't be more specific because we don't know.

[solid otter]

We think around tennocon, like Valkyr last year

[spark brook]

Mesa is Wednesday’s if that’s who you’re talking about

I think. I am too lazy to google

[opaque cargo]

@fringe pond I found all the lore thus far confusing anyway so 🤷

[fringe pond]

What specifically are you confused by lmao

[opaque cargo]

Everything

[zenith jacinth]

same

[fringe pond]

Well
Finish the quest if you haven’t, then try to get things clarified

[undone lodge]

What quest are you on

[spark brook]

I believe she is in “whispers of the walls” from what I saw

Haven’t done it but I saw them over at #gameplay-discussion talking about it

[shadow forum]

Imagine we use this portal for the tau.

[solid otter]

Mm. What a wonderful quest.

[shadow forum]

[solid otter]

I wouldn't suggest it 😭

[shadow forum]

Why

[solid otter]

Considering just. Going into the void raw would probably kill us

Even if we are void tainted ourselves, im not sure our physical body would be particularly happy

[shadow forum]

[cerulean kiln]

Time to test it

Thomas
Jump in

[solid otter]

Go eat a murmur's foot

[opaque cargo]

WHAT IS THE INDIFFERENCE

[solid otter]

Remember the wall

[opaque cargo]

No

[shadow forum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-man-in-wall-warframe-gif-24269482

[solid otter]

The wall ^

[opaque cargo]

I seeeeeee

[wild wind]

Stop shouting

[opaque cargo]

I regret drinking the Kuva

[timid remnant]

Yoooo it’s Wall-ter

[shadow forum]

I just wish this new shadowgrapher had some secrets about man in the wall.

the things would be more interesting

[spark brook]

Put your hand away wall-tuh

[wild wind]

Eh they don't want to overuse him

[shadow forum]

Since he controls Albrecht.

[opaque cargo]

This might just be me.

[shadow forum]

How roathe will eliminate Albrecht.

If wally has enormous strength and void abilities

How will they stop him

Even if lotus and tenno find the tau,what will happen there

[wild wind]

I mean, 1 he doesn't and 2 Shadowgrapher is set after Chains of Harrow but before Apostasy

[shadow forum]

so tenno will go again thought the more trauma.

I'm more curious,how he got Albrecht after the hex.

[opaque cargo]

Is it bad I regret this?

[cerulean kiln]

No