spoiler-chat

[mellow mirage]

Her main blueprint is unobtainable via the hunt, right?

[obtuse gyro]

for now, known bug

[faint current]

Either I am missing something or the Follie Hunt is one of the worst experiences I ever had in Warframe.

[wide totem]

universal opinion tbh

[mellow mirage]

It is extremely annoying, but weirdly enough it's very slightly enjoyable. If foil clones were nerfed, it could be good.

[supple quarry]

if I have 3 dead teammates does that mean 4 folies hunting me? all stuck in the elevator room so i dies while going down the elevator with the ink

[vocal steppe]

this, with a bit of tweaking it could be really fun

[mellow mirage]

Alright, hope it will be fixed soon.

[sacred flint]

damn the new game mode is brutal

[umbral pivot]

Guess need two of them

[boreal pewter]

so we got an accolade glyph list for the guilty? I know wisp is one of em, don't know the other 5 though.

[worthy yarrow]

I got caliban and ash already

u sure wisp got one? like have u seen it

[worthy yarrow]

cool cool i'll get that one next

[quick token]

ooo I’m tempted to go for that one

[worthy yarrow]

proof of the other 2

[thick jolt]

Oh look it's mysterio from the hit comic spider man!

I really cant take that helmet seriously

[lethal vortex]

Who i gotta fight for these?

[obtuse gyro]

caliban you say?

[fading lily]

can we hold a vote to execute the concept of Nitain Extract

[cerulean kiln]

No

[waxen sphinx]

I opened up warframe, thr update was taking a while so I was just sitting in silence. I havent even started the game yet and I feel like I got jumpscared by the loading music XD

[errant oriole]

man solo guilty is kicking my ass. didn't really have any problem with any of the other superboss grinds but dactolyst is ridiculous. vanguard's pretty quick just by spamming madurai tauron

might need to rethink the build, I went into it assuming they do all the magnetizing silence bs the others do so I slapped on the same copycat build from those bosses + laetum

[sharp night]

what are the builds and weapons you using on them? im barely doing any damage

im trying to go with Harrow

[cerulean kiln]

Wait till you play the actual mission of the music is scary

[gentle cape]

(blinks in follie lore) so what im getting is that... i actually got nothing.

[errant oriole]

last 3 glyphs are probably harrow, ember, and mesa if I had to guess

[gentle cape]

...from where do i get follie??? i forgot who to give the currency to

[errant oriole]

new guy outside the arbiters room in any relay

[lethal vortex]

Once again, who i gotta shoot many times with Laetum to get the glyphs

[errant oriole]

yeah pretty much lmao

wisp, ash, and caliban found so far

madurai tauron strike basically one-taps each vanguard phase but dactolyst is killing me

[lethal vortex]

Imma just get on the game at some point today

[haughty cosmos]

Is the laetum, like, the meta for the hard mode bosses?

[lethal vortex]

Its just my go to for them

[haughty cosmos]

Ah

[errant oriole]

pretty much. not mandatory but very consistent and one of the best options

[lethal vortex]

I use incarnon weapons against these bosses just because

[errant oriole]

yeah incarns are basically mandatory though

which actually made me realize these bosses apparently can't be armor stripped??

latron doesn't do a thing against em

[haughty cosmos]

So my phenmor with my riven that brings it to negative crit chance would be a good idea then

[dusty wyvern]

yeah :/

[errant oriole]

what

[haughty cosmos]

:3

Takes me down to -2% crit chance

[worthy yarrow]

wasted my time on harrow he doesnt have a glyph fml

[gentle cape]

ok so like. can someone explain the new game mode to me??

[sharp night]

YOU FNG KIDDING ME

[errant oriole]

welp good to know, very weird that wisp has one but harrow doesn't

[fading lily]

wait, you get glyphs for doing the new mode?

[dusty wyvern]

o7 ty lmao. I was gonna try him after finding out Uriel didn't get one either

[errant oriole]

uriel doesn't either

[low abyss]

so uhhh

wheres the new vendor guy?

[errant oriole]

the new superboss, ye. accolade glyphs for solo on different frames, like vor, fragmented, and apex tank

[haughty cosmos]

Damn, that's wild that Uriel doesn't get one considering you literally have to use him to unlock the guilty

[thick jolt]

Find canvasses first, then find ink and bring them to canvasses

Fyi interacting with the ink is what starts enemy spawns so i recommend finding all 3 canvasses first

[fading lily]

outside the Arbiters room

[errant oriole]

people are trying to find out what 6 there are this time

[low abyss]

oh so any relay?

[thick jolt]

Avoid or kill anything that shows up

[haughty cosmos]

Yuh

Other than vesper

[errant oriole]

wisp, ash, and caliban confirmed. uriel and harrow deconfirmed.

kinda wonder if volt and trinity might actually be on the list? would be weird since they already have accolades, but theirs are technically the protoframes

[sharp night]

what build did you use on Harrow?

[fading lily]

eyup

[lost zodiac]

is it me or does this new ervent suck

[errant oriole]

mesa and/or ember probably have one

[fading lily]

yeah no, its difficult as piss. fun, but its super SUPER overtuned

[sharp night]

cant believe ts lmao no Glyph on Harrow

[dusty wyvern]

Trin has one

[errant oriole]

oh damn well there we go

that's 4 confirmed?

[dusty wyvern]

I mean the Lettie one 🤣 sorry

[sharp night]

ooh ok so airborne dmg reduction and shieldgating

[errant oriole]

ah gotcha. yeah that's why I was thinking she and volt wouldn't have new ones, but maybe they might since the ones they do have are amir/lettie

[thick jolt]

Fairly boring and drops are sad, but eh it has happened before

[worthy yarrow]

yup, and vazarin

[fading lily]

i personally dont think its boring. difficult though, and the drops/costs of Follie need to be SERIOUSLY reworked

[haughty cosmos]

IMO the content of this update feels pretty underwhelming tbh

[dusty wyvern]

she's the new citrine farm? 😟

[sharp night]

what weapons? im trying with Burston and Dual Toxo, seems ive gotta go with raw dmg

[thick jolt]

Seriously once you have some upgrades on your operator there isnt really any difficulty

[errant oriole]

interesting. I was running vazarin for sling at first but swapped to madurai because its tauron is a more reliable nuke. is the staff putting in work for you?

[fading lily]

the gauss and grendel skins are the highlight of it for me

[waxen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[lost zodiac]

no the actally event

[fading lily]

same with Follie herself, she seems fun

[lost zodiac]

the gameplay sucks

[haughty cosmos]

I agree on both fronts

[thick jolt]

That isnt an event its just a gamemode

[lost zodiac]

thats what i ment

[thick jolt]

And what i said is still relevant

[worthy yarrow]

yup, 6 mins runs with it

[thick jolt]

Boring with sad drops

[errant oriole]

oh bet

[low abyss]

the tenno seeing the orokin horror given new life by wally number 69420 (they just want some hot Karkina broth and a day off to lie in bed)

[fading lily]

i like it. i just find it too overtuned

[worthy yarrow]

laetum

[errant oriole]

also didn't realize dactolyst do the duo boss classic where they revive each other

just gotta knock em both out at once

[fading lily]

ill suffer another 69420 horrors if it means i get the ink mommy

[haughty cosmos]

Ink mommy my beloved, I shall grind to get you one day

[low abyss]

btw do you also think that its just wally making her live once more?

just the stuff she be saying sounds like him

[fading lily]

maybe? honestly not sure. i think there just might be some tenno stuck in the frame, like a Harrow situatino

[low abyss]

then they must have a lot of self hatred

[haughty cosmos]

That seems probable, cause chains of harrow is a prerequisite

[gentle cape]

yeah thats. a whole lot of internalized self loathing... its honestly uncomfortable listening to the dialogue -- the emotional manipulation is just. too much.

[fading lily]

bro region chat is hell dawg 😭

they're fighting eachother over bbws, never thought id see the day

[wild wind]

Perita hard mode is super fun in a four Tenno squad

[errant oriole]

can I ask what you used for the archwing phase at the end? seemed like just an easy but slow burn but then just got one-shot LMAO

[wild wind]

Also we need to purge region on general principle

[errant oriole]

what a way to end then run

[gentle cape]

"i will not let one refractory subject have all of my attention." ahaha................................... yikes.

[errant oriole]

didn't think I'd ever want to actually forma my archwing but here we are

[fading lily]

my theory is that the Tenno trapped in Follie is playing those lines herself. either that, or shes stuck listening to them

[low abyss]

i myself dont mind that, may be im wired differently or just dont pay attention during gaming, but whenever she says something i just think back a snide remark

[fading lily]

those voicelines are talking about the Tenno

[wild wind]

yup

[gentle cape]

i think that tenno is stuck listening to them on repeat. thats what it seems to me.

[wild wind]

It's post-Zariman, during the early attempts at Tenno therapy

[fading lily]

they are at eachothers THROATS in region, good lord lmao

or, i had another theory

what if the Tenno stuck in that frame right now is the teacher?

[wild wind]

The kids are not okay, given that they're dousing themselves in paint

[thick jolt]

I see no reasin to leave that chat on ever

[wild wind]

but the "therapist" is not good at her job

[hearty pendant]

mhm, one of the lines mentions 'taking this one back to storage'

[low abyss]

personally to me it sounds like follie used to be one of the sentient frames, OR used to be a regular archimedian when the tenno came back, trying to get as much info out of them only for wally to somehow get to her (may be through her knowledge of his existence or something a kin to that) and when she ended up telling the 7 about him they (Ballas mostly) decided to warframify her for something a kin to blasphemy

[wild wind]

however this does mean that Warframe is a very rare fantasy/science fiction setting where therapy actually exists lmao

[gentle cape]

tenno therapy but the therapists are adults who have no emotional intelligence or empathy towards the tenno, so the poor kids are getting hit w the extreme version of "tough love" (aka verbal abuse)

thats what the dialogues sound like to me.

[wild wind]

iirc DE said that Follie's crying when she attacks/KOs the Tenno

[gentle cape]

also... the fact that it sounds like mother but that might just be the accent.

[hearty pendant]

prolly just the accent

[wild wind]

So Follie possibly got blown up when Vesper blew, leaving the painting behind

and now her Tenno's thoughts are spiraling in the ink?

[hearty pendant]

mm, possibly?

[wild wind]

Zorba says he thinks Follie's still trying to help

[fading lily]

this chat is so funny dude oh my GOD 😭

they got this one dude saying its an unhealthy body type and should be remodeled

like

[low abyss]

Grendel off to the side about to eat that mf

[hearty pendant]

i bet they think nothing of grendel

[fading lily]

their wording was quote "he is a sumo wresteler, Follie is DEI slop"

[hearty pendant]

ugh

[fading lily]

its a FAT WOMAN

if you can't handle a BBW then hop off dawg

[wild wind]

report the tool

[fading lily]

ill prob grind for her once i get more operator power

also, someone told me that theres no difference in Operator vs Drifter, im pretty sure thats true correct?

[thick jolt]

I'd say there is a bit of a worthwhile difference for this mode

Operator slides along the ground while drifter rolls when you press the dodge button

[fading lily]

mmm

noted

[thick jolt]

The roll tends to flow better with the movement imo (tho it could totally be placebo)

[worthy yarrow]

wooo

[thick jolt]

Grats

[errant oriole]

oh corvas, good shout. I still had my half-assed grattler on

[fading lily]

i might honestly just try to get 10 bucks to get follie, icl

time to go do VRChat comissions i spose lmao

that grind seems attrocious

[low abyss]

'healthy' bodied frames

[fading lily]

also lets consider the fact that maybe, yknow, lets also look at the fact that

THEY'RE ROBOTS.

[thick jolt]

Honestly valid

[fading lily]

IT LEGITIMATELY DOES NOT MATTER.
like, i feel like we forget they arent living things and are also space ninjas

[low abyss]

techno organic mutants more like

[fading lily]

y'get the point lmao

[fading yarrow]

is the guilty's only reward...the sumdali?? and the honoria? like thats it? other than 10 lyroic bridges and 1 arcane u can get in easy mode anyways...?

[thick jolt]

Yuuuup

[fading yarrow]

ohhhhh myyyyyyyy luaaaaaaaaa

[errant oriole]

like I get if her kit doesn't vibe with folks, and the game mode + grind aren't great, but the character model is fantastic and the chuds need to chill

[thick jolt]

So far it is mostly challenge mode for accolade glyphs with no other incentive

[fading yarrow]

were glyphs confirmed?? ive heard of it possibly giving glyphs but i havent seen any

[thick jolt]

Yup few messages above someone got the oberon one it seems

[errant oriole]

yeah it's basically the exact same thing as the other superbosses, just a bit more "obvious" because it has a menu option

[fading yarrow]

OBERON

[errant oriole]

whereas the others are hidden objectives in assassination missions

[fading yarrow]

wait do we know what other glyphs there are

[low abyss]

yeah i got you, but calling them technoorganic mutants mutated either of their free will or as punishment makes the 'they must be fit and not overweight' argument go out the window cuz like what is ballas gonna make the person he warframifies for clems and giggles do exercises before he turns them into an abomination against nature?

[thick jolt]

People are still mapping afaik

[errant oriole]

wisp, ash, caliban, oberon so far I think

[fading yarrow]

i want a zephyr one so mad oh my god

ASH OMG

rubs my hands together

time to jump off a cliff

[low abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-gif-5744244850649843512

[errant oriole]

the thing is they're basically like every other superboss where you'll hardly be using abilities anyway

[fading lily]

plus, look at Yareli. hell go look at Nekros

[errant oriole]

just a copycat build on all frames, a good weapon like laetum or dual tox, and floor is lava

[low abyss]

what about them?

[fading yarrow]

shrugs

[errant oriole]

most serious red text I've seen in a while lmao

honestly good on them though. feedback around the mode and grind has been brutal, but they seem quick to react to it

[fading lily]

Yareli is thin as a skeleton and Xaku (meant Xaku earlier, not necros lmao) is LITTERALLY a skeleton, yet nobody complains about them

[errant oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/jazzskull-trumpet-skull-doot-doot-gif-3005205123992593904

you've still got people misgendering flare in here so somehow it doesn't even surprise me

[fading lily]

it's crazy lmao

I really think all that would fix the Follies Hunt mode is just making the blueprints cheaper or the game mode easier

[silk stump]

Yeah the blueprints are crazy expensive

[errant oriole]

the visibility in the mode is a big issue imo. it's better on pc but when I was playing on ps5 earlier I couldn't see a damn thing

[sharp night]

so effin close

[errant oriole]

it felt like "hey what if we made an entire game mode with the little duviri guys everyone hates from EDA/ETA and made it pitch black and cramped"

there's potential, the atmosphere is cool and the setpieces are great

[sharp night]

yes, i went with full kit Harrow (Scourge, Knell and Harrow)

[fading lily]

honestly I think Hildryn could be the answer to the hunt

[errant oriole]

having an archwing phase in a superboss is insane LMFAO

I threw at the same spot

guess I need to actually juice up my amesha a bit

[nimble goblet]

the archwing phase sucks something fierce

[deft mist]

I got stuck in a ink column

[nimble goblet]

actually correction - archwing sucks something fierce

[boreal pewter]

so for the guilty, we know the accolade glyphs for Ash, Caliban, Wisp, and Oberon.

We don't know the other two, but presumably they're for female warframes.

[nimble goblet]

Oberon????

[boreal pewter]

oberon

[sharp night]

really stupid there is no Harrow Accolade lmfao

[boreal pewter]

harrow accolade probably being saved for something else

[errant oriole]

I'm definitely suspecting mesa

[gentle cape]

guilty??

[boreal pewter]

guilty

[gentle cape]

of...?

[fading lily]

honestly I'm probably just gonna buy the bundle for Follie

[sharp night]

hardmode boss rush perita

[boreal pewter]

crimes against humanity

[sharp night]

the video i uploaded above is from the guilty

[gentle cape]

......yeah i still dont get it

i havent played the game in months

[wild wind]

Not all accolade glyphs are lore accurate

[worthy yarrow]

ok did all 6 but got kicked out because of hotfix

I dont think there's a unique honoria for doing all 6

[sharp night]

The Guilty is a hard mode gamemode that combines all three perita bosses into one, similar to Hardmode bosses like Vor and Effervon Tank

[wild wind]

Like, why is Jade's tied to the Fragmented One? Just cuz

[empty valve]

How to beat k-drive quest ?

[wild wind]

Also the worst thing about The Guilty is Trinity Prime

[boreal pewter]

what are the other two besides ash, caliban, wisp, and oberon?

[hoary tendon]

Does anyone know how to call dark refractory secret boss ?

[mellow mirage]

I've seen a few changes in the hotfix related to the hunt. Is it overall easier now?

[mellow mirage]

Waverider?

[sharp night]

you focus her then kill the rest

[empty valve]

Yeh

[sharp night]

also, any archgun/archwing recommendations for The Guilty?

[mellow mirage]

It has a very clear objectives, or have you stuck on the specific quest on page 3?

[fading lily]

not sure, but im imagining so. it seems at least minorly more tolerable since she doesn't spawncamp now

[empty valve]

Yeh!!!

[errant oriole]

use the deep bow emote in front of lotus in the refractory with uriel equipped

[wild wind]

Regular bow works too

[worthy yarrow]

nvm there is one

[mellow mirage]

A pipe near the fortuna entrance is probably the most consistent way. It is annoying, but the other way is way more unreliable.

[fading lily]

apparently the bow is now 500 plat on warframe market 😭

[errant oriole]

LOL WHAT

[empty valve]

The 2 long ones right ?

[errant oriole]

I thought it was default??

[mellow mirage]

Yes. It's the one near k drive race. You will need to go one way, and then turn around and go the opposite way.

[low abyss]

yeah again, look at the frames i picked out above:
Caliban- literally split in half from neck down
Octavia- her thighs literally are as thin as weight disks and have growths to play music (same as her arms)
Harrow- has a hunch on his back
Lavos- has viles built into him, also tubes
Koumei- LITERALLY HOLLOWED OUT and has energy strings inside her

this game no matter how you look at it isnt one where you should expect any normal body type, especially when its front character has an OwO for a face

[mellow mirage]

Excalibur will never be the same.

[low abyss]

wait you didnt notice?

[errant oriole]

oh my god he does lmao

[mellow mirage]

I haven't looked at faces since most warframes I've seen barely have a resemblance to it. Maybe I should take a second look.

[nimble goblet]

its less OwO and more ° W °

[low abyss]

well heres something you might not see at all. Vauban prime's face

a smug bastard

[balmy bane]

Anyone know how to get Zorba's last letter?

[mellow mirage]

Maybe I'm missing something, but he looks like a frog.

[limpid gale]

Is Follie supposed to deal so much damage to us?

[umbral pivot]

How do you share the Follie canvas you make?

[south pulsar]

For the new accolade glyphs for the guilty do we have to do it solo?

[worthy yarrow]

yes

[south pulsar]

Anyone try gyre to see if she has a accolade glyph?

[worthy yarrow]

she doesn't

it's nokko, wisp, oberon, ember, ash and caliban

[south pulsar]

Thanks for the info

[sharp night]

The Guilty with Harrow done

The shield recharge + shield delay build is insane

[waxen sphinx]

I was afk for a bit during the follie hunt and came back with 4 follie clones surrounding me...

[high otter]

folks? why is follie giving me images of my parents arguing???

[fading lily]

god damn, them some fast hotfixes

[high otter]

putting the hot in hotfix

[high otter]

I'm curious how you've unlocked it. I was pretty sure it has to do with the ||follie hunt, since she's all about uncovering the inner guilt, but ||

[fading lily]

use Uriel, bow in frontr of Lotus in the Sanctum Anatomica

[high otter]

oh THE GUILTY!!. Lmao. nice touch

[waxen sphinx]

What is Follie's lore exactly? Im having a bit of trouble understanding the recordings heard in the mission

[nimble goblet]

Am I missing something or is instantly losing half my health and then dying soon after normal for the archwing phase transition

I deal with the hunhullus's first phase, screen goes whiteout to transition to the archwing phase but by the time I can actually see I have no shields and I basically have no health and I die right after as a result

[balmy storm]

1200 ink?

[balmy storm]

Tenno abused by therapist(?) used Follie to paint

[nimble goblet]

Regular/SP hunhullus does this too but it's significantly more annoying to have occur in the hardmode boss because it's an instant run ender

[high otter]

Yeah, looks like follie is some kind of acting therapist. Maybe for the zariman kids?
there's a quote like || they were attacking you. thats why you killed them all? ||
plus, tons of rorshachs

[solid otter]

I wouldn't think its for the zariman kids

[fading lily]

uh

thats not normal lmao

[solid otter]

"Put this one back in storage" doesn't. Sound like the zariman kid. We weren't exactly put in storage

[high otter]

i mean, they were in cryo-sleep, as far as i remember

[fading lily]

exactly. this must've been post-Zarimen, so it'd make sense that she would just have them put back to sleep after experiuemtning

[solid otter]

Yeah, on lua and iirc it was a secret that they were there

And this seems to be much more.

Infantile than what we saw most of the zariman kids

[balmy bane]

Got that amount, and there's nothing about a 5th letter in his menu

[thick jolt]

Well there was that description of where the tenno were stored in the rhino codex

[solid otter]

The therapy type theyre doing is. Iirc mainly a non-verbal. Type of therapy? Yk like. Therapy to help non-verbal folk regulate emotions. Because NV =/= silent, it csn also mean really bad tantrums when thry cannot control or verbalise their emotions

[misty veldt]

Beeg lok

[solid otter]

Mmm, depending on how old this is, id hold it with slight scepticism, kinda like the. Ember prime story and the zariman being a military ship
-# that was from that yeah?

[thick jolt]

Yup

But we have had other things we thought completely outdated in the past being suddenly mentioned so yaknow

Nice to keep in mind

[solid otter]

Emperors true

[wild wind]

The Zariman being a military ship was the cover story, right?

[thick jolt]

One of them at least

[high otter]

Maybe it's less >>therapy<< per se, and more trying to figure out what's going on with them? What they experienced on the zariman?

[sharp night]

Use Amesha, its 1st ability is basically mesmer skin plus 4th gives energy on dmg

[high otter]

at least in the mission, a lot of follie's voicelines were less focused on helping, and more on " pulling the truth out of you"

[solid otter]

From the singular run I managed to do before college, there's.

1. This person isnt alone
2. Is waking and sedating the other people up
3. If this is pre-war, it would be related to Margulis, post old peace it would be waking them from the second dream which. Is a bad thing i think

[wild wind]

It's pretty clearly post-Zariman

The kids are absolutely feral

[high otter]

Yeah

Oh my, i read the two first letters just now.

[lyric onyx]

is there a somachord for the guilty boss music ?

[solid otter]

I mean as like. Is it pre old peace or post old peace

[left canyon]

Why must the Coda Bubonico be so wide
All the extra bits kinda make it difficult to see

[wild wind]

Pre

[thick jolt]

Because we must suffer a price for our power

[solid otter]

Mmn, would we be in storage before it?

[wild wind]

Yeah

[high otter]

Why do you think pre-old peace? because after the old peace, the tenno rebellion has begun?

[wild wind]

The Tenno rebellion technically came after the Old War itself

[high otter]

Until the kids are no longer feral, probably yes

[balmy storm]

I don’t think it was Follie specifically as the therapist but yeah

The therapist is abusive, I’m thinking they could be an Orokin

[wild wind]

It's pre-Old Peace because we're told that the Zariman kids went completely fey during the time they were in the Void

[solid otter]

She feels as if she was. Perhaps under the same program maybe? Follie feels vaguely childish

[wild wind]

Like, when they were found they were skipping and playing games like children

And they had a hard time adapting to life back in the real world

[high otter]

Oh,
I see that follie is considered a truth-teller so maybe she's just re-playing the voicelines from the therapist?

[solid otter]

When you die, she. Cries? Acts to at least

[wild wind]

Follie the Warframe was uninvolved

My guess is that the Operator was (re)traumatized by the therapist

[solid otter]

Gives the vibe of how. It stops being funny when you get hurt

I don't think this quest was about our operator tbh

[wild wind]

I mean it's about all the Tenno in general

The person doing the therapy is using shadowgraphs to get the Tenno to come out of their shell/explain their experience/behave normally

Follie the Warframe was an entire Warframe built around the concept, and art in general

[junior mural]

Yo, are all accolade glyphs for the guilty discovered?

[wild wind]

scroll up

[junior mural]

I only saw wisp and ash so far

[high otter]

Maybe except Rell?
And that's why we had to do chains of harrow before doing this one?

[umbral pivot]

My first Shadowgraph over the barrel

[wild wind]

Rell was separated out by Margulis

[solid otter]

I need to just buy Follie bcs her grind is. Really bad

[wild wind]

If this is before she started transference therapy, then Rell's still in the group

[solid otter]

Ehh wasnt it almost immediate?

[wild wind]

we have no idea

[nimble goblet]

I completely forgot Amesha has that lmao

[wild wind]

How long did Margulis spend developing the tech? No idea.

[high otter]

Nooo, do the mission. Trust me, i got 3/4 blueprints by doing the mission alone

[nimble goblet]

thanks for the reminder

[wild wind]

I actually thought Follie's Hunt was going to be an endless mission

The fact that it's not keeps throwing me

[junior mural]

Can't find it, any chance you can link me the message?

[solid otter]

It is structured like it

[junior mural]

Ah so my hunch was correct
All the vanguard frames minus volt and protea cuz they already had accolade glyphs

[high otter]

and i've done the mission like 6 times, so it's actually doable. And once you get used to the tilemap, it can actualy go really fast

[junior mural]

So the other two are wisp and Oberon?

Very weird that it's Oberon and not harrow

[solid otter]

Folk have memories of a harrow accolade sometime, no clue why

[wild wind]

Harrow isn't directly connected to Perita

[solid otter]

I mean nor is Oberon

[nimble goblet]

Wisp, Ember, Oberon, Caliban and Ash is all I've heard of

[junior mural]

Just makes sense if wisp is there

[solid otter]

Id argue that Lyon at least brings harrow closer

[wild wind]

yeah that's what I mean

[nimble goblet]

Ember and Wisp are the only ones I've seen actual evidence of

[junior mural]

Mesa seems like a safe bet

[junior mural]

I saw Caliban, ash, wisp, ember
Still yet to see Oberon or who I'm assuming is the last one, mesa

[dusty arch]

I understnad now why pain is in the word paint

[near pasture]

Question. I don't want to know how to unlock the guilty but can I ask. Where do I begin

[wild wind]

it's extremely not intuitive

But go visit Lotus in the Dark Refractory

[near pasture]

Okay

[wild wind]

||And bow to her as Uriel|| the answer

[near pasture]

And there is like

Nothing indicating this

At all?

[zenith jacinth]

I guess the name is supposed to be a hint?

since roach's thing is "can the orokin ever be forgiven" and he's a uriel

[wild wind]

yeah, no hints or anything afaik

[near pasture]

That is...

[wild wind]

unless Lotus has some dialogue about it

[near pasture]

She speaks of forgiveness and all that

[wild wind]

if there was anything else in the game like this I'd like it a lot better

[near pasture]

But literally nothing indicating a connection between them save for the whole concept of decendia, that one Roathe Kim conversation and such

[fading lily]

i just need the main blueprint n ive got Follie

[solid otter]

Slowly gettung people to call roathe roach more and more

[quick token]

for anyone else who’s done the Guilty so far, have there been any issues with permanently losing Sentinels during the Vanguard portion of the mission? using Wyrm Prime myself and have had that happen every single time

-# not sure if there’s a bug somewhere or if I’m forgetting a certain mechanic somewhere

[zenith jacinth]

I called him roach before you did

[solid otter]

Yeah but you weren't consistent 💔

[balmy bane]

I just got up to 1300! And yet meanwhile...

[balmy storm]

): idk
I’m not even there yet sorry

[balmy bane]

Is alright~

[zenith jacinth]

zorbees...

[balmy bane]

I could infer that the Letters were tied to the challenges, though where you find those challenges is a mystery to me, outside of being notified of them when achieving them in the mision itself...

I know there was one to get 1200 Atramentum, but when I got it, it didn't seem to register for some odd reason...

[zenith jacinth]

I'm still waiting for my wf to get done updating ._.

[fading lily]

ok, so new issue with the mission

if it takes too long, the team will just.. leave

[zenith jacinth]

isn't that just normal for random multiplayer

[fading lily]

i mean, sorta

but its espescially bad here

[sharp night]

215 Scaldra Dedicant Eximus, Thalys with new Tennokai no primer

[fading nacelle]

New tennokai?

[sharp night]

Yes

[eager dagger]

So running follies hunt do we get any actual answers or lore in the dialogue ? I’ve ran it twice now and it seems like gibberish

[sharp night]

Seems that talking to the vendor gives lore

[eager dagger]

On the relay?

[sharp night]

Y

[oblique furnace]

where fith letter

[eager dagger]

Ah ok

[hearty pendant]

yea, vendor has stuff about the arbiters, the dialogue in the mission is about something else

[eager dagger]

Without spoiling do we fight out what’s going on with the mission dialogue?

[hearty pendant]

sorta
it seems like an early attempt at ||giving therapy to the tenno, post void-incident||
||but the therapist doesn't seem to actually empathize with the patients, and just keeps sending them away||

[oblique furnace]

okay yeah it seems to be bugged

[quiet crypt]

why is it so small

[sharp night]

People theorize its a tenno being subject to therapy right after the Zariman rescue and before margulis takes them under her wing

[zenith jacinth]

can it even be called a theory when it's this obvious?

[nimble goblet]

The full list is ||Ember, Wisp, Caliban, Oberon, Nokko and Ash||

[junior mural]

I've seen them all apart from nokko tbh
Have you seen a pic of it?

[nimble goblet]

It's on the wiki now

[junior mural]

Sadness... should've been mesa

[hearty pendant]

that's such a weird combo
though ig it was only one or two of the accolade glyph groups that were themed

[nimble goblet]

Odd given if Mesa was part of the list then we'd have an even spread for male/female frame accolades

Guilty has 4 male frame glyphs tho

[junior mural]

It should've been the 4 vanguards who didn't have accolades
And wisp + harrow in place of vanguards that already had glyphs

It makes TOO much sense to be anything else

[nimble goblet]

That's what I was hoping for too

Nokko and Oberon out of the blue

[junior mural]

Oh well, I still want these for my loadout screen
But mesa was my first main so I'm sad she's not there

[eager dagger]

4 runs deep it seems she only gives her enough therapy to stabilize her and then puts her back in to cryosleep

[remote raft]

Damn the new drop tables already paying off

[tranquil bobcat]

its a trap

[willow needle]

Nice 😂

[tranquil bobcat]

god i love her already shes great

[faint jasper]

Is the guilty worth grinding out a second Uriel for?

[pallid goblet]

So is there a reason to do the new petria mission besides the sumdali?

[zenith jacinth]

glyphs

[pallid goblet]

It's not like uriel is a difficult grind

[tight pagoda]

So did we figure out how to do The Guilty?

[pallid goblet]

Yeah

[pallid goblet]

||The dark refractory is open now in sanctum anatomica. Just go in there as uriel and the bow emote at the lotus||

[faint jasper]

I just have other things to grind for to get Mr from.

[pallid goblet]

I guess the question comes down to, do you wanna fight all 3 bosses at level 270 in petria rebellion for an egg ornament for your ship

It's a pretty fast mission, but I dont think it's worth farming a frame and waiting 3 and a half days over it unless you do it in passing maybe

Though i'm surprised you got rid of your first uriel, he's a pretty strong frame and won't get a prime for 3-4 years. It was probably worth farming a second one originally to feed it and keep the other

[faint jasper]

I do need to unlock the other tauron strikes eventually, but Im just grinding for Mr.

I just don't have the intention to build non primes no matter how far away in the future it is

[pallid goblet]

That doesn't sound very fun, but hey. It's your game, your playstyle

[faint jasper]

At least Follie is still a better grind than Kullervo

[zenith jacinth]

why tho

[tight pagoda]

Never would've guessed that

[last void]

||so does anyone know the name of the song that plays during the guity? i kinda wanna listen to the whole thing without gunfire and explosions||

[misty veldt]

Let me know too i wanna listen too

[balmy storm]

Damn, you’re still waiting for Styanax to come out 😭

[faint jasper]

Not really. I've only been playing WF for 70 days

[balmy storm]

Then why are you waiting for primes lol

[faint jasper]

Who said im waiting? I just farm the base, level them up, and then subsume. Outside of mag I already have the frames I want to play

[night grail]

There is no official name yet but it is a new rendition of Ironclad

So I've just dubbed it as Ironclad (Guilty)

[solid otter]

Is it? It sounds like lullaby of the manifold

[last void]

well ironclad is a version of lullaby of the manifold

[night grail]

Its ironclad

[solid otter]

. Theres. Lyrics?

[night grail]

It starts with "vor u'tal, vor u'tal"

[solid otter]

There's the lyrics to lullaby of the manifold 😭

[last void]

also with "ironclad (guilty)" we now have gone 3 versions of lullaby of the manifold deep

[solid otter]

Albeit. Mostly screamed

[night grail]

Well theres the original, lament, dusk. THEN there's Funeral for a Friend and the elevator breakdown ambient versions that are only in the quest

[pallid goblet]

Anyone else find it kinda disappointing that the new mission didn't use the old relay layout? Since vesper was destroyed long before the relay revamp

[night grail]

THEN theres ironclad and ironclad (guilty) which are a further level of abstraction

[night grail]

Do you speak sentient and haven't told anyone 😭

[last void]

well no i mean in the way that there's one lullaby of the maifold then layer two which is ironclad which is a version of lullaby and then three which is a version of ironclad which is a version of lullaby

[solid otter]

MAYBE??? I SWEAR IT WAS THERE

It plays mainly during the dactolyst part i think

[last void]

so 3 layers deep

[solid otter]

Which. Ive never gotten past

[night grail]

I have the full track :)

[last void]

well not anymore you dont

[solid otter]

My strongest frame is jade and she needs her abilities to function and

Maybe im just sentient

Making a sentient oc once I get home

[night grail]

I literally have it downloaded wdym

[last void]

wah how?

[night grail]

Secret

[last void]

oh wait no i mean the new guilty version of ironclad

[night grail]

Yeah

[night grail]

If there is i definitely cant make any English out thats why I'm inclined to it just being based on ironclad

[solid otter]

Do. Do you hear the screaming part?

[night grail]

Yes

[solid otter]

Im 99% thats the part im hearing having the lullaby

Others also heard it as that too

[night grail]

It has the same cadence

At most I can make out "high" and "die" but idk

[tight pagoda]

Kasumata?

[night grail]

Perhaps

[knotty cobalt]

I finish the vesper relay then what?

[thorny creek]

Love that Folie is an evil therapist

[lyric onyx]

its basically a metal version of ironclad/ lullaby from what i gathered. it sounds like a remix of the two songs together to me.. tho i want it for my ship so i can jam out to it while i afk xD

[night grail]

It doesn't sound like Matthew Chalmers so idk how likely itll be we would get it for somachord

Its why we dont have lamenting the days or waverider for the somachord

[ripe owl]

Recorded it if anyone wants to listen to it offline: https://youtu.be/7RXW6JuWU08

[lyric onyx]

its called Dreadnaught and you get it from the pity shop for folie. i just found it!!

[night grail]

I never even considered it would be there 😭

[ripe owl]

Yeah, that's too easy

[gusty plaza]

how rare of a reward is the main follie blueprint?

[night grail]

~5%

[gusty plaza]

ooft

it's the only blueprint i don't have for maknig her

[night grail]

Its like ~6.5% on steel path allegedly

[gusty plaza]

there is a big lock on the SP version for me

[night grail]

Show your star chart

[humble patrol]

yiou can buy it for 400 no?

[hearty pendant]

main bp is 1200

[humble patrol]

guh\

[hearty pendant]

lmao why is the lock so big

[gusty plaza]

idk

[solid otter]

BIG

[hearty pendant]

you've done the junction to get to venus on sp, yea?

[gusty plaza]

yeep

[hearty pendant]

odd, then
that looks like the only requirement

[gusty plaza]

i'll see if someone can load me in and maybe that'll fix it

[solid otter]

Go do E gate

[gusty plaza]

aight

[humble patrol]

3 systems... neato

[hexed relic]

what does unlocking all of follies letters do?

[gusty plaza]

that fixed it, thank you

[tight pagoda]

Chains of Harrow

Wait this is for steel
Path my bad

[solid otter]

[obtuse gyro]

looks likes as much as you completing the mushroom king from nooko

[night grail]

I mean at least the prince was like

About nokko more than tangentially 😭

[pine bluff]

the icon is just huge for some reason

oh i was scrolled up what

[rare night]

very random question....how did anyone figure out that that was how you unlock "the guilty" mode CC:

[hearty pendant]

supposedly there's a hint in the cathedral

[rare night]

Really? dang I just saw it on my feeds that it was already solved cc: I'll go take a look see when i have time

[solid otter]

I mean i can tell you how to unlock it but it. Is seemingly locked behind ||uriel||

[zinc inlet]

I’m not sure if this counts as spoilers. I mean it kinda does.

For the drifter. ||I’m fully aware that I can use him as an operator (I’m at the most recent point in the story) but can I use drifter abilities/duviri drifter outside of duviri? I think it would be a fun challenge to try undercroft as only drifter, or other things. And also be able to use the unique weapons styles in duviri.||

[solid otter]

Unfortunately not

[hearty pendant]

drifter is the exact same functionally as operator outside of duviri

maybe the roll is different but everything else is the same

[zinc inlet]

Yea ik that, just wondering if I could use the duviri things outside of duviri is all. Thx yall

[solid otter]

Due to the story, the abilities we have (the heal + guiding hand) seems to come from the lotus hand, which by the time drifter leaves duviri, they would've given it to. The lotus

Or. To rebuild her

[zinc inlet]

Oh yeaaa. I completely forgot about that

[solid otter]

We need a friendlier thumbs up istg 😭

this feels passive aggressive

these are too friendly

[zinc inlet]

You wanna hear what really sucks? You can do circuit as duviri drifter. It just randomly picks stuff for you. Was testing it earlier today.

[solid otter]

Oh word?

Well build in randomiser

[zinc inlet]

Yk what. Thats fair

[karmic blade]

Guys I haven't played Shadowgrapher

On a scale of 1-10, how scary is it

[night grail]

The scariest part is the vendor prices and drop table

[karmic blade]

OH MY GOD NO

[rare night]

CCC: thanks for the offer, I'll probably try to figure it out myself first.

[floral hawk]

it is locked behind redacted

no other way around i dont think

[lost zodiac]

Wtf is the guilty

[floral hawk]

horrific... ~35 runs to get just the bp

[obtuse gyro]

superboss mode for perita

think 60 eyes or super tank

[lost zodiac]

Does it give anything good

[floral hawk]

no

[lost zodiac]

I don't have Uriel anymore so I can't do it

😭

[floral hawk]

the sumdali is kind of ass? but personal preference

[obtuse gyro]

honoria, the green thing from old peace, and 10 lyroc bridge until they fix the rewards and give the other 2 materials

so like, not necessary, and not worth it for the material

but if you want the glyph then do it

[lost zodiac]

I cant

Least right now

I have to remake Uriel

Annoying that it's locked behind a specific frame I dont like that

[floral hawk]

do we have a full list of the accolade glyphs?

[floral hawk]

thanks!

DARN

||WHERES MY HARROW ACCOLADE!!!!||

[faint jasper]

Got everything from Follie outside of the shiny mods.

[humble patrol]

FREEDOM

[plush kraken]

i was playing with the random colors button and i got this and my brain instantly went OH! 💀 🤣

[zenith crane]

||i just heard rap tap tap starting a new mission... should i be scared?||

[tight pagoda]

Yes

But this is the scariest quest in the game

[solar zealot]

Unsure if this belongs here or in lore, but while playing a 1999 mission today, ||on mission summary screen a window opened like command prompt, with red text at the top, then multiple lines of white text, then disappeared. Was in some script I don’t recognize, but remember seeing around in game.|| is this something I shout know/recognize? thank you

[obtuse gyro]

TSD teaser

[solar zealot]

Alright, thank you. I’ve done that quest, does it still just randomly appear?

[obtuse gyro]

yeap

[hearty pendant]

yea, never gets disabled

[solar zealot]

Sweet, thank you very much

[hearty pendant]

iirc it says something about transference interference?
though i might be misremembering tww stuff

[night tartan]

Do I need max standing with the Cavia to successfully have Loid meet the Family?

[hearty pendant]

just the entrati family

[night tartan]

Ah, okay. Thanks!

[mellow mirage]

Does letter quest count the current amount, or the overall amount of atramentum?

[obtuse gyro]

should be lifetime collected I think?

[mellow mirage]

Alright

[solid otter]

Woah why are you piss yellow what a horrible colour for mobile players

[tight pagoda]

@solar zealot if you were interested in the translation

[deep citrus]

its olive✨

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[deep citrus]

:P

[solid otter]

Man maybe piss is just olives

[deep citrus]

always has been

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[solid otter]

See this is funny because Albrecht seemingly eats olives on pizza

[deep citrus]

he's freaky like that xd

[inner verge]

idt this is supposed to happen, host was playing on a potato pc anyways.

[solid otter]

Got lucky

Literally the most useful requiem

[inner verge]

thats what im saying, bro was saying "sorry" i couldnt even see my toolkit because the requiem sequence was stuck on my screen

nor the objective

they were still alive btw

[solid otter]

Oh what

[steep trench]

is the party not yet available?

[opaque dove]

That’s Not off putting in the slightest

[zenith jacinth]

explain?

[steep trench]

yeah i still cant invite someone to party

[zenith jacinth]

are you playing on solo mode

[steep trench]

no bro

i dont freaking unserstand

[waxen sphinx]

The amount of fashion potential DE unlocked within every tenno just for a new type of signa is amazing XD. Ive seen so many mecha themed drifters and cyberpunk themed fashions with these signas

[solar zealot]

Sweet, thank you very much

[lethal vortex]

Cascading fragmentation, a effect that was a thorn in my side each time i took too long fighting The Fragmented One

It mainly took long due to most of my shots missing

Being the person that i am, i obviously will probably go for at least one accolade glyph, cause i ain't that much of a person who tries to get everything

[lofty girder]

We can now run doom in warframe

[waxen sphinx]

Just need a longsword that looks like the Crucible and perfection

[lofty girder]

I mean the ghoulsaw is a good substitute for now

[solid otter]

Mm, Doomguy's visor is blue, most of the time. Is this 2016 slayer?

[waxen sphinx]

Chainswords would be such a cool weapon to have one day

[lofty girder]

Yeah, its apeing the 2016 box art

[waxen sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-geats-chainsaw-man-kamen-rider-csm-anime-gif-26937376

[solid otter]

figured as much

[unreal field]

Follie theme music is AMAZING

[mint sage]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-evil-grin-gif-20903082

[pastel pasture]

question for you all to consider

if you were to take every possible hollvania tileset and put them together. how big is Hollvania

surely it must be a massive city to have all these really similar looking streets

[lofty girder]

Is it tho? Like, i don't think it's bigger than downtown paris?

[pastel pasture]

I mean in the context of what i just said

take every possible combination of hollvania tiles

[lofty girder]

Considering we have an actual map of höllvania, i wouldn't try to apply lore to the random tile generator

[pastel pasture]

take my joke a little less literally

[lofty girder]

Also worst-case it'd be like, greater London metropolitan

[uncut solar]

Non euclidian european sh thole

[lofty girder]

Definitely smaller than something like the Jakarta mega city or Tokyo metropolitan

[lofty girder]

Honestly that be a great eastern European indie horror game

[pastel pasture]

Imagine having to work overnight and drive home to find your house is no longer there

[hearty pendant]

daedalus if he was an urban designer

[zenith jacinth]

Ew, AI

[pastel pasture]

AI more like DUMBI am i right gamers?

[unreal field]

Laughing at the hotfix message, I was wondering if this was seriously going to continue like this. lol
People who didn't play Follie's Hunt on day one will never comprehend how brutal it was

[timid remnant]

Real.

[zenith jacinth]

What hotfix message

[unreal field]

I actually love the current difficulty as there's not a lot in the game anymore that feels 'scary' to me or intense like this, but the feedback I wanted to give is about the resource drop rate. Getting an average 50~ or 60~ atramentum per run of that when one piece of Follie costs 400 is a bit wacky.

However, I don't think I'm going to hate it being made a lot less terrifying.

[uncut solar]

I feel like they are running out of ways to make things difficult that people won't be complaining about

[unreal field]

Yeah, it's not a good idea for main content to be crazy difficult. I would enjoy some special 'actually nightmarish' challenges but it's fair that people are complaining about that being just the new warframe grind

[fading lily]

good GOD Follies kit is fun

[fading lily]

there is Guilty

[unreal field]

I can't believe people got her already lol
I look forward to it

[zenith jacinth]

Honestly only issues I have with the mission are that it's too easy to get blocked in by a quadrizintillion enemies and the resource drop amounts

[unreal field]

Even the Archimedea thing is starting to get a bit bland

[zenith jacinth]

I was stuck in teshin's room 3 seperate times while farming for follie bps

[unreal field]

Yeah getting cornered in a room, assaulted by enemies while the literal wall is killing you and the screen is getting inked out is...I could see how some people would rage quit that

[zenith jacinth]

I look forward to trying her out in... well, over 3 days bc I spent all my plat on forma

[unreal field]

It's also very hard to actually get past her with the ink, walking through a bubble is usually instant kill

[zenith jacinth]

Building up a clan takes so much forma

[zenith jacinth]

Meh, my 1.3k hp drifter can handle it

[unreal field]

My Drifter is kind of a glass cannon to be fair

[zenith jacinth]

Mine is just a tungsten cube

[unreal field]

I didn't set anything up for it, just using my Eidolon hunt build I had on already

But that's what's fun about it being so difficult, I get to think about actually utilizing the game's systems and building something that can handle it.

Most things you can just start with anything and press button repeatedly

But I have a mighty need to get the music in my orbiter 💜

[lofty girder]

Feel like alot of people don't realize that the more paint you apply, the more of the map follie restricts, genuinely had runs where because the team finished an easy frame the last portrait took 3 minutes longer

[fading lily]

god i love you randomizer

[distant stirrup]

honestly I have an opinion on the mode:
make it more rewarding but also make it harder. I'm talking for both base star chart AND Steel Path.

I personally feel that the gamemode is too unrewarding to even be played when taking into account the cost of Follie and her main weapon's blueprint 1.2K each and it's worse for if you want to actually get a 2nd Follie to subsume because it'd be another 1.2K leading upto 3.6K of the new resource JUST FOR THREE BLUEPRINTS!

honestly it'd be more efficient to just grind out the plat and buy them

[wise solstice]

What is the new rebellion game mode called

[steep totem]

Here's a potential hot take:
Why not wait to subsume Follie until you have Follie Prime?

[distant stirrup]

3 year wait time at least

[steep totem]

Why not wait?

[wise solstice]

Who sings Dreadnaught?
(The song from ||The Guilty|| gamemode)

[lofty girder]

Why not not wait?

[steep totem]

It always seemed like a waste of time and resources to get a 2nd frame just for the subsume

[lofty girder]

Not if the subsume is good

Like, Cyte09's subsume is a universal invis ability

Nokko's subsume is arguably the strongest energy generation in the game

Jade's lets you armor strip via looking at people

[steep totem]

And I only subsumed Cyte when I noticed I wasn't playing him at all

I don't have Nokko
And I'll be waiting for Jade Prime to subsume my Jade, if I ever do

[amber terrace]

Forgive my less than ideal memory, I somewhat remember Zorba having trouble reading words, did his mentor have crappy handwriting or does Zorba have literacy issues?

[wise basalt]

Jade Prime is going to be such a massive plothole

[steep totem]

No more than Revenant Prime

[waxen sphinx]

I thought it was since it was all written in Follie's ink he had trouble reading it

[cerulean kiln]

No, there’s no plothole

Once Jade was made
They can clone Jade and stick gold on it

[waxen sphinx]

Primes were just a rank for the warframes right?

[undone lodge]

Not quite

[cerulean kiln]

They were Frames reserved for the Prime Vanguard

[undone lodge]

There was a higher up group, the Prime Vanguard, but Prime’s are actually just better

They also all have this weird obscure ability on Orokin tilesets IIRC

Something to do with energy orbs?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[steep totem]

I love throwing people for a loop when I bring up Revenant Prime as a response to this sort of statement

[cerulean kiln]

They get energy even from destroyed orbs

[steep totem]

Death Orbs give them an energy pulse

[undone lodge]

Energy isn’t canon like that but I’m gonna assume that’s meant to actually represent something just because of how. Oddly specific it is

[cerulean kiln]

It gets annoying when people call something a plothole because it hasn’t been explained yet

Even Revenant Prime they could’ve used the clone frame stick gold on it strat instead of the fatherless thing

No frame has an issue existing if DE don’t want it to

[undone lodge]

Speaking of

How far off is Uriel Prime?

[steep totem]

...no?
Revenant didn't exist until after the Fall
There would be no Orokin around to clone it

[undone lodge]

Roughly. I don’t keep track of the schedule and count

[steep totem]

But I agree
No frame has an issue of existing if DE doesn't want it to

[undone lodge]

Like, in a couple years?

[steep totem]

*doesn't want it to have an issue, that is

[cerulean kiln]

Players just love throwing
This frame can’t exist because it hasn’t been explained

Many people think because we saw a Kullervo it means it’s the only Kullervo ever made so Prime can’t exist

[steep totem]

Lol, yeah

Technically, Stalker Prime could also exist

hmm, unless The Stalker went around and butchered them all, and destroyed the blueprints

that'd be pretty messed up tho

[cerulean kiln]

Stalker Toothpaste
Best I can offer

[waxen sphinx]

I think a couple years?

[timid remnant]

2029 likely.

[balmy badger]

The moment we got Nidus Prime, the "rules" for Prime's in regards to frames were thrown out the window.

Though you could also say that Valkyr Prime was the root of "can this get a Prime" rules being discarded for frames.

[timid remnant]

Eternalism. That is the answer.

[gentle cape]

is it crazy to say that the enemy follie spawn rate needs to be decreased?

why was i stuck between THREE of them in a tiny ahh corridor??

[timid remnant]

Polyopia. killable follies that die quicker than usual.

[high otter]

Folks, what follie build are you going for? I just got myself an umbra-powered persistence and i'm surprised at how well it pereforms

[timid remnant]

Random perk that gets added at parks of the missions

[timid remnant]

Persistence does what again?

[high otter]

removes your shield, limits dmg taken to 500, unless affected by magnetic and nullifier

[timid remnant]

Ahhhhhh, that one.

I just use triple umbra (working on it) with aegis and molt augmented for now.

[gentle cape]

not really helpful at all tbh... i just got stuck inside a tiny room with FOUR OF THEM now......... even silent hill wasnt this bad.

[high otter]

on follie?

[timid remnant]

Maybe it’s the fake Follie statues as well. That mode can get REALLY unfair at times, especially solo

[timid remnant]

Yeah! She has enough HP and armor to justify triple umbra, and aegis because:

A: don’t know what else.
B: it was 6am and I was groggy.
C: don’t wanna change it.

[lofty girder]

Tbh alot of the difficulty is that teams usually do the closest and easiest canvas first, meaning follie makes the last canvas a nightmare to navigate

[high otter]

yeah... usually best approach seems to be

1. discover all canvas
2. start filling them.
   Note: don't focus on a single one. best to spread to get all 3 at once

[lofty girder]

Well, technically it wouldn't matter

Follie counts paint applied, not canvas completed

[gentle cape]

thats what im doing... i still get stuck w 4+ follies in a single room bc apparently im an enemy magnet.

[lofty girder]

You can hit max aggro without completing a single canvas

[high otter]

hahahahah poor youu

[high otter]

Hell yeah. she's so tanky with that huge health pool

[lofty girder]

Tbh playing gauss wirh passive gating has sofar not killed me yet in about 10 runs

[timid remnant]

I needed a frame like her to exist. Now I can be tanky with no problems!

[high otter]

yeah. and actually fun!

[thick iron]

I wonder when de is going to pull out the kuva ignis

[timid remnant]

Me waiting patiently for a Paracesis augment or incarnon:

(I love that melee so much)

[timid remnant]

It was a joke.

[balmy badger]

I know.

[tight pagoda]

It's still disabled for consoles and mobile

DE has fixed it, they're just waiting for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Apple etc. to approve

[gentle cape]

apparently yareli prime & her bubblegun is the play against multiple follies

btw does the atramentum drop rate get affected by resources booster??

[gentle cape]

...why is follie's main bp 1k currency 😭😭😭

[thick jolt]

Pain.... simply pain

[tight pagoda]

Not boosters but maybe drop chance boosters

[gentle cape]

i think thats the highest pity right??

[tight pagoda]

I had active boosters and still got 3 so obviously it didn't get doubled

[tight pagoda]

If you get an average of about 60 per mission it'd take 16 runs

I think Citrine was slightly higher

Especially if you factor in that Follie's bps have a chance of dropping from the mission (which takes like 5 minutes if you're lucky), while Citrine requires Rotation C (25 minutes)

[gentle cape]

does follie's speed get affected by nova's 4??

[rain otter]

they changed it to be like 100% more drops.

also i swear people are getting this frame faster than others

but the drops might jsut be good.

[obtuse gyro]

the biggest shocker is that corporate exists in the orokin era

[midnight rune]

Does anyone know who voices Aspirant Zorba? I swear I've heard them before in something but I can't place it. (Could be wrong, though...)

[reef compass]

So, did I piece more or less correctly Follie's lore?

||She was someone that had a special needs Tenno classroom cover to set them into cryostasis (2nd dream, so that means she was the one putting us to sleep) when losing control, before that more of a healer.||

But I doubt a little:

||is the voice that female executioner and Follie was forced to do it?||

At least what I can piece from the 5 letters and the stage voiceovers.

[zenith crane]

||just reached new war and... WHAT THE HELL||

[hearty pendant]

from my understanding, ||Follie developed the method of therapy, some orokin twisted it into the process we hear about during the mission, then used it on multiple (all?) tenno after they returned from the zariman, prior to margulis.||
||Nitokh might be involved? she's in a couple of the drawings on the walls in the mission, but i highly doubt she'd be the one 'taking care' of the tenno||
||i'm not sure if Follie herself has any further connection to the voice in the background or not||

[hearty pendant]

yeah that's usually how it goes

[reef compass]

pretty much

[rain otter]

Have a good time. Come back when you get through more and we can talk.

[tight pagoda]

Having ||Nitokh|| be the one to do it makes sense if they're wanting to set her up which seems to be the case

[cosmic prawn]

With Tuvul disgraced and Ballas not yet interested in the Tenno, it makes sense that it would be given to another Executor to "clean up"

[hearty pendant]

even then, i don't think she'd be there personally
maybe someone under her, though

[zenith crane]

ok so... that's done....

WHAT THE F#@$

[hearty pendant]

yeah that's usually how it goes

[zenith crane]

still wish i could have been the one to off him, but also WALL

[hearty pendant]

man in the wall living up to his name

[zenith crane]

also i'm hopping off fo the night but i saw the name of the next main mission.... is that the one we walk out with the kid...?

also, what in the hell is this morality system? i feel like i've been selecting wrong after that whole ordeal

[reef compass]

Ngl I didnt expect it to be so literal

[hearty pendant]

it isn't really morality as much as its how you react to things
where's that teshin speech, hold on

[zenith crane]

aaahhh

[hearty pendant]

Three are the principles,
three the weaving ways.

Cool water flows,
the moon behind a cloud;
To the receptive mind
All things come in time.

Sun at mid-heaven,
Sovereign above all;
Mind in firm action
Commits without reflecting.

Between sun and moon
Unfolds a winding path;
Not by one Way alone
Is Mastery achieved.

Let me explain, Child. The words I speak to you have purpose. The choices you've been forced to make have not attuned you to 'good' nor 'evil', but to older, less subjective principles. You must find comfort in your choices, for your enemies will provide you none. The road ahead will be one that requires more choices of you, Child. Be ready.

[steady inlet]

it mainly affects some minor dialogue lines. No real gameplay impact.

[reef compass]

So far it does nothing of real importance

[steady inlet]

Just flavor

[reef compass]

The only important one imo

Its the last choice in TNW

[zenith crane]

my face after reaching the end

[reef compass]

And its also irreversible

You can purchase the other looks but not the ||name||

[zenith crane]

thats what i thought, and why i wanted to ask, the others didn't feel like they mattered until i reached that point

[reef compass]

Yeah i definitely chose ||Natah|| and mails now feel more hearted

[zenith crane]

damn, i went with ||Lotus||

also not bad timing. just under 5 hours

[reef compass]

Thats okay its her position and a middle ground

[hearty pendant]

none of them are the wrong choice, per se
i went with lotus, personally

[reef compass]

Alternatively she would use the alias which is also right

[zenith crane]

i have to say though, ||CONSUMING THE SUN|| was not on my list of mission endings

[reef compass]

When pettyness in a man goes overboard

[solid otter]

Cannot wait till you learn of the next quest's ending ||old man yaoi beats the wall back with a diary||

[reef compass]

Don't click that

[solid otter]

I mean, it genuinely would've been the only way to get to tau, ballas is smart but as far as we know, there is no way he could do what Albrecht did with the void

[reef compass]

They are right before that

[solid otter]

Afaik you start ||witw|| right after the new war

[reef compass]

People need to rest usually after such

[solid otter]

You also could do duviri but I dont know if theyve done it prior to the new war like I did

[hearty pendant]

only quick way, at least
potentially could've rebuilt the rail, but that's not as, uh. impulsive.

[solid otter]

Do they 😭

[zenith crane]

I do ;-;

[solid otter]

Man maybe this is why I burn out so fast

[reef compass]

I definitely did Duviri way before TNW >_< i wish it still was prerequisite

[zenith crane]

I literally sat like this for five minutes XD

[solid otter]

AInt duviri supposed to be played after TNW?

Given it. Released after?

[hearty pendant]

generally yea

[reef compass]

Its quite an oniric experience

[hearty pendant]

duviri's just. in completely the wrong place

[reef compass]

No place works well for Duviri

Either too early with the oniric experience and sense of misdirection

Or too late and its like "okay?"

[hearty pendant]

after new war works best i think
but it is 'set' between act 1 and act 2 of new war

[reef compass]

I had it while it was offered after Venus i think

I enjoyed having the Circuit earlier and thinking ||i was that human controlling the warframes||

[uncut solar]

||There's Zariman still||

[reef compass]

Cause I remembered the ||light coming to the frame|| in the start

[solid otter]

Mm, is there? ||You don't need angels of the zariman to trigger whispers afaik||

[reef compass]

Yeah thats optional at that point lol

[uncut solar]

Oh

[zenith crane]

I love how today started with rap tap tap, and ended with WALL

[uncut solar]

My memories are melting into one blob

[reef compass]

Its okay as ||eternalism|| goes lol

[hearty pendant]

||angels|| is entirely optional and not required for anything atm, yes
||whispers|| is unlocked right after tnw

[reef compass]

Cause the player experience has been shifted around

[uncut solar]

I hate you eternalism types

[reef compass]

I heard that they even changed Awakening recently

[uncut solar]

[reef compass]

And have added ||executor statues||

[uncut solar]

Teacher completely removed Cetus from your direction list

You immediately are tasked to go to Fortuna

[reef compass]

Oh wow

Wait so now Fortuna is before Cetus. Wow.

[uncut solar]

You can reach Cetus earlier but there's now zero direction towards it

[tight pagoda]

Until Chains of Harrow

[reef compass]

Amazing

[uncut solar]

^

To be fair, when I just started playing

[reef compass]

So much for "starter warframe" Koumei

[uncut solar]

When I entered Cetus I immediately figured out what sort of area this is gonna be and groaned

[hearty pendant]

Cetus was taken out of the main path before the Teacher, i think when koumei was added

[uncut solar]

So immediately going off to Fortuna and treating Cetus as secondary to it was a good idea

[uncut solar]

More so talking about the fact that Teacher directly tells you "go to Fortuna now"

[zenith crane]

Correction! Just a little over four! First screenshot where it ||has to confirm you want continue|| was around 8:30, wrapped up just after 12:40

[hearty pendant]

mm, i see
points you there a little earlier, but the junctions still point you there

[tight pagoda]

I was watching Smallville and there's an episode where Lex (played by Michael Rosenbaum who voiced Hayden Tenno) is beefing with a guy named Hayden which is funny to me and me alone

[reef compass]

I remember fumbling about 10 minutes the scanning minerals and looked up it was a very little dot

Saya was so much more annoying

Not the best welcome to warframe but i shrugged and took it as "eh 10 year old game some warts happen"

And later having to do that last stand on Fortuna's gateway almost dragging myself with zero lives left haha

[uncut solar]

Yeah doing Cetus early has this "you're starting off in a small village full of old people and it'll be a boring slog before you get to an actual game" vibe to it

People will talk, they will give exposition about something that won't matter because you're leaving soon anyway

Like an insignificant starting town in an rpg

[reef compass]

I felt it was weirdly ambitious

Like "oh what's this Zaw mysterious peddler man"

Followed with "uh nevermind i will come back later..."

[uncut solar]

Also going to Cetus after Teacher makes little sense

Since you just wrapped up your Grineer encounter and have been freshly introduced to Corpus

[reef compass]

I got a big problem with the Corpus myself

They never feel truly menacing storywise

[uncut solar]

Because 2 out of 3 reps are clowns

And their design is not very hostile, nor oppressive, nor alien

[reef compass]

And the 3rd is made weirdly grey

Oh forgot throat guy

Which still feels weird

[tight pagoda]

I think I might actually be in a polycule rn

[solid otter]

You. Might be in a polycule 😭

[floral hawk]

swear i went with Natah but it's showing me Margulis now, must've been eternalism

[reef compass]

She will mention Margulis sometimes

[stiff veldt]

Well thats interesting. Roathes conversation check for 21 descendia runs failed because it played BEFORE playing the last of the Voice Messages

[solid otter]

Ive never trusted folk who chose Margulis tbh

[opaque dove]

How the

[stiff veldt]

ok fascination period over. this is annoying

[opaque cargo]

Does Ballas want us dead or help us?

[solid otter]

Dead, but if helping us gets us there faster, then he'll do that too

[opaque cargo]

I seeeeee

[zenith jacinth]

he is deceptive

[deft mist]

He wa ts to help us be dead

Let me.guess youve seen his amalgam form amd he gave you the paracesis

[opaque cargo]

Yup. Hence why I’m super fecking confused. I wanna murder Ballas still regardless.

[zenith jacinth]

just keep in mind that he is lying

[deft mist]

Think of him as like a trickster he will lie to get what he wants trust me i was co fused too

[opaque cargo]

So basically Joker?

[deft mist]

More like loki

[tight pagoda]

No clue but I broke up with Lyon

Before the patch, even, as you can see I've been with Roathe for well over 5 days

Once I get all of Roathe's date scenes I'll break up with him too and return to Marie

Now if I keep Roathe and Lyon I will have the entire Triad

[solid otter]

Well, good to know that at least

[tight pagoda]

I don't plan on resetting since I got the Family ending

But I also got the Villain Roathe ending

[solid otter]

Eugh

[tight pagoda]

So if there's not any actual consequences there I don't care

I'm keeping my polycule

[solid otter]

Hehe. You can reset and Loid will stay up with the family btw

[tight pagoda]

Ah right, that's good

Does that effect the chats? I almost want to reset again to see if they comment on that

[solid otter]

I also discovered that there's a very specific route where it doesnt seem to check if you have positive or negative thermostat

[solid otter]

Yes! Roach will comment on it, iirc marie would too

[tight pagoda]

Yeah if you reset there's a chat that just lets you pick the ending

[solid otter]

Oh even on your first run

[tight pagoda]

I am an idiot and chose the villain Roathe option thinking it was the Redeem one

[solid otter]

The deciding chat, if done correctly, will only check for 21 descendia, the promise (which doesn't change anything afaik), and dating iirc, you skip the thermostat check

[solid otter]

Dw they're. Not very. Clear on it lol

[tight pagoda]

Aw dang it I thought the devstream was tonight

It's tomorrow

[solid otter]

Awh man

[haughty cosmos]

I really want the guilty music for my backroom, it's so good

[fierce kiln]

its 200 atramentum in aspirant zorbas shop

[lofty girder]

Well, there's the Jupiter amalgams, there's some scrumptious body horror

[thick iron]

waiting for the atramentum event.. i did like 6 steel path follies hunts in a row and got her main bp and neuroptics, i've had my fill for now lmao

[azure solar]

the spagetti cube

[night grail]

Dreadnaught at Zorba

[fiery oyster]

welp, just Marie to get fully done and I shall be finished

[zenith crane]

am i about to cry...?

[thick jolt]

probably

[jovial relic]

Only on my second day with the new game mode and it's already feeling kinda stale

You'd think something meant to open up right after Chains of Harrow would lean a bit harder into the existential terror side, but... nope, creepy stalking enemy

[zenith crane]

||captain xeto|| oh god it is that mission ;-;

[zenith crane]

it was what i thought it was

[hearty pendant]

indeed

[harsh fox]

@soft surge|| hi my b||

[lost zodiac]

What is everyone's opinion on the new game mode

[obtuse gyro]

not that hard

[lost zodiac]

I find it infuriating

[obtuse gyro]

now even easier since you can beat follie away

[amber terrace]

I mean, it’s a change of pace??? Idk, it didn’t really click with me but that’s mostly because Follie’s abilities don’t really speak to me

[lost zodiac]

Yeah I did it when you couldn't

It was

So bad the other day

[amber terrace]

I grabbed this image from the wiki and I legit think that Voruna might be the next prime instead of Styanax ;-;

[lost zodiac]

Wait seveagoth was recent

Wow

[hearty pendant]

fun for a bit, can get repetitive
its way easier after the patches
i don't think it was that bad on release though*
decent overall
* however, given that it's meant to be right after chains of harrow, its probably around the ideal difficulty now

[lost zodiac]

I'm going to say this I got the Warframe and weapon never doing it again there's no point

Kinda disappointed

They could of had an arcane or something

[hearty pendant]

it has a decent endo reward iirc but the lootpool is so large, it isn't worth farming it for that endo reward

[balmy storm]

There’s an Operation next week about the gamemode

[lost zodiac]

A what ?

[balmy storm]

So if you’re not gonna touch it again then you shall only be playing nightmare missions

Operations are limited time events
Play event
Get resource
Buy things

Things include cosmetics, previous operation rewards and more than likely a lot of Arcanes

[obtuse gyro]

I think the draw factor is to foil up your mods

[cosmic prawn]

Operation currency will also drop from Dark Sector missions I think, to lessen the burnout on the new mission.

[obtuse gyro]

nightmare missions not dark sector iirc

[cosmic prawn]

Yeah, I wasn't 100%, but that sounds more right