spoiler-chat

[solid otter]

Now what do you think wally is gonna do once he gets that finger

[solar schooner]

I bet my infested companion that you're correct

[uncut solar]

Asks us to pull it

[cerulean kiln]

Child deal time

[woeful patio]

Everytime i use qorvex 4th i imagine the devil core or ramiel from evangelion...

[solid otter]

I want Albrecht in a new fit at the very least, now that he doesn't need to conform to 1999 clothing standards

[solar schooner]

Maybe wally will take Albrechts finger as revenge

[cerulean kiln]

I swear that coat he wears he wore before 1999

[solid otter]

Eh. No i think its the shirt you're thinking of

[woeful patio]

Old man stealing a ELDRITCH being from a void dimension to ships....thats the most idiot and yet still accurate to the stuff

[zenith jacinth]

What

[uncut solar]

His shirt is the same

It's just the coat that's new

[floral hawk]

well. it not stealing if it just fell on his floor,

[solid otter]

The pants and boots probably are too

He. Wasn't wearing any in his statues

[solar schooner]

Do you guys think the drifter is gonna lock in

[uncut solar]

What do you mean-

[solid otter]

Safe to assume he didnt in the portrait too

[floral hawk]

what do you think duviri and tnw was

[solid otter]

He had these wraps, not actual pants. Yk?

[cerulean kiln]

Average day in Warframe

[solar schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-pepper-warframe-drifter-anguish-gif-1014994394534119487

[woeful patio]

I can imagine tenno shouting proudly "I MADE THIS WARFRAME, BRICK BY BRICK" And its qorvex

[uncut solar]

Anyways back to my uhh stuff

Bye

[solid otter]

And Albrecht wears doc martins

[zenith jacinth]

Concrete

[solar schooner]

Remember if you don't like ballas your Jordan's are fake

[solid otter]

Thats an important part of his character design

[woeful patio]

Dont wonders why you become a cephalon...

[floral hawk]

nuke out the club

[solar schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-sevagoth-sevagoths-shadow-point-tempestarii-gif-27332640

[solid otter]

Good thing I don't own any
-# vans + converse for life....

[solar schooner]

Honestly real

[solid otter]

Nuke in da club

[floral hawk]

yeah i wear milsurp unironically

[zenith jacinth]

Great grammar

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas isn't real he’s just a dream

[solid otter]

I need to get another pair of docs for winter

[solar schooner]

He's a stolen dream

[woeful patio]

Hah cry about it jordans are useless
-walks away with worn out zariman shoes-

[solar schooner]

Dissing Jordan's

[cerulean kiln]

What if he's just a Third Dream?

[solid otter]

Mine are almost as old as my 12 year old brother, they're finally falling apart

[solar schooner]

No he's the living dream

[zenith jacinth]

Big brands are bland

[solid otter]

• theyre a better pair to wear when birds are going at them

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/shoe-saw-cutting-experiment-curry-gif-15148042

[cerulean kiln]

I don't get it when people care so much about branding

[solar schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-whispers-in-the-wall-tenno-entrati-1999-gif-16943765476869672917

[solid otter]

Wonder if Albrecht would prefer converses or vans

[solid otter]

Its a bragging thing

[zenith jacinth]

Well you see, expensive brand means you're better, obviously

[cerulean kiln]

Bragging to who though

[floral hawk]

can you imagine being an orokin and finding out about like, 90s sneakers

[solid otter]

Look i can fork over [obscene amount of money] for shoes!!!!

Most of them suck, but a few are good to buy, Docs being one of them

[floral hawk]

do you think a kid ever made al play ball

[solid otter]

Making Albrecht play handball fr

[woeful patio]

. . . Does... Wally wall... A straight wall or if you go behind him you gonna see his...

[solid otter]

God. I haven't played that damn game in years

[solar schooner]

...

[floral hawk]

like he's gotta be up to other stuff in 99

[solar schooner]

@woeful patio i have a name suggestionTori the mute

[solid otter]

We know he was. Stealing cars 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Your english is devolving

[solid otter]

Committing tax evasion

[solar schooner]

I think the entranti family pays theirs

[solid otter]

Money laundering on top of that

[woeful patio]

Me no care engrish you

[solid otter]

Can't really pay tax if you don't legally exist 😭

[floral hawk]

asides from grand theft auto does he idk try out the old world slurpee?

a lot of 99 stuff has to be mega antiques for orokin

[solar schooner]

Imagine if instead of 1999 he went back to 2020

[cerulean kiln]

Do you think Albrecht will ever lock in and actually try killing Wally rather than running and hiding

[floral hawk]

"can we kill wally" is a whole point of debate with roathe

[solid otter]

Imagine the mad brain freeze hed get from it 😭

Massive headache so bad he's paging Loid for any form of help 💔

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht should just try shooting Wally

[woeful patio]

You can judge me but you cant ignore its possibility

[solid otter]

Would he be the kind of freak to just straight up bite into icecream
-# me, im that freak

[floral hawk]

idk i just think that something conceptually embodied into existence therefore entwining itself on an ontological level with the concept can't just be solved the way we solve problems

[solar schooner]

Do you think the indifference will take over the origin system

[cerulean kiln]

No

[solid otter]

Ngl it might

[floral hawk]

it would be funny if we have narmer 2

[solid otter]

We need some low point in the story

[floral hawk]

fortuna but green ?!

[solar schooner]

Yes

[woeful patio]

"go destroy that tank with this nailclipper"

[solid otter]

Green.... green fortuna...

[floral hawk]

i prefer murmur stuff to narmer dont look at me

[solid otter]

Would be better than red fortuna

[solar schooner]

Who do you think the big bad of warframe currently is

[solid otter]

No thats so real

Wally

He's been the big bad for yoinks

[solar schooner]

What if we misunderstood him

[solid otter]

Absolutely not lmfao

Hes a predator.

There's no misunderstanding it

He regularly isolates and alienates from their connections children to get something from them

[cerulean kiln]

How can you call forcing a child to kill their parent a misunderstanding

[solar schooner]

I mean maybe he's a big fan of greek mythology

[zenith jacinth]

??

[solid otter]

I mean there's a lot of stories about that

[woeful patio]

"i said to you kill THAT parents not YOUR parents"

[cerulean kiln]

Even if he was it legit doesn't justify it

[solid otter]

There's not much you can do to justify a lot of what wally does

He's also very unapologetic

[cerulean kiln]

Everything Wally does is malicious

[solar schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-the-man-in-the-wall-warframe-1999-warframe-you-are-late-warframe-jojo-gif-4432154459658682236

[solid otter]

A malicious... face...

[cerulean kiln]

Lotus thinks he has 2 faces

[solid otter]

He does, he has many faces

[cerulean kiln]

She says she saw his other face

What I find crazy is how players see a Man in a Wall and ask who the person at end of New War is

It's literally on the nose

I might start playing a game of media comprehension next time a person asks

[solar schooner]

Do you guys think the drifter can run doom on entrantis computer

[solid otter]

... yes.

It would be a matter of getting the floppies inside Höllvania

[uncut solar]

Without those floppies trying to eat you

[solid otter]

Shareware or full game btw? Bcs those have two different amounts

Also we could do doom 2 if we want. And maybe doom 64 if we had a n64

[solar schooner]

Don't you hate when you're about to complete the game and it just bites your hand off

[solid otter]

Reckon LAN parties would still be. Able to happen

[solar schooner]

I bet 500 non existent currency that wally would have a mental breakdown trying to play doom

[solar schooner]

I just realized I've never seen the top of a railjack

[zenith jacinth]

I have, many times

[cerulean kiln]

Depends which Doom as some never got a chance at being made

[solid otter]

FIRST 3 MIGHTVE

oop. caps

[cerulean kiln]

All before 1999

[solid otter]

mhm, iirc doom 64 is 1996

and. made in texas lol

[cerulean kiln]

1997 wasn't it

[solid otter]

-# you looked that up

Yeah. March 11, 1997

[cerulean kiln]

I looked it up when we first talked about this a while ago

I just have an alright memory

It's better than people who forget like an hour after talking

[solid otter]

True

I remember things when looking at people's bios

Specifically any links they have

[cerulean kiln]

I love writing notes on people

[solid otter]

Do i have any

[cerulean kiln]

I have one where I wrote

This is where logic goes to die when a person constantly said things that were stupid

[solid otter]

[cerulean kiln]

My Thomas note is just “Totally enemies”

[solid otter]

Yeah we're super evil haters of each other

[uncut solar]

Oh god

Please give me some self definition

[solid otter]

Going in the notes

Silly cat fella

[obtuse gyro]

My thomas note says:
Note (Only visible to you)

[solid otter]

Note to self:
There is a Thomas

[cerulean kiln]

My one for you is just this Nuke of a box might explode

[uncut solar]

Checks out

[zenith jacinth]

I rarely use notes but I make myself smile whenever I see the one I added to myself

[uncut solar]

[floral hawk]

be anointed with a descriptor

[zenith jacinth]

Human

[uncut solar]

Too VAGUE

And you would look STUPID if I make a fursona

[zenith jacinth]

Human(vain)

[zenith jacinth]

You'd still be human

[uncut solar]

And you'd still be BORING

And UNFUNNY

And UNINTERESTING

[solid otter]

Bro might be their fursona

[uncut solar]

And DUMB

[zenith jacinth]

No

[zenith jacinth]

Maybe

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[uncut solar]

A dumb person wouldn't recognize it

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[uncut solar]

I'm going to destroy you

And have an occult ritual performed for your soul to not be able to escape

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[zenith jacinth]

Considering I was genuinely too smart for school... meh

[uncut solar]

Man are you twelve

Your whole act of being "smarter than everyone truly neutral genius" is so lame

Did you watch too much rick and morty

Anyways, who cares (except me). You're unbearable to interact with.

I'll go back to work

[zenith jacinth]

That's. Not how I'm acting

[zenith jacinth]

I'm just responding to hostility with mutual hostility mate

[plush marsh]

Hex Question: Do they need to be at a legit liked status before repeating the new year or is friendly ok

[solid otter]

Liked iirc

[plush marsh]

Thank you very much

I'm impressed I got Arthur to like me and no one else so far lmao

[floral hawk]

underrated funny asf bit from Marie she figured out an infinite money glitch

[solid otter]

Wonder why they replace it if you move them. Was Albrecht just that autism'd and couldnt handle things being out of the norm

[floral hawk]

rudimentary programming that only checks the integrity of the room without considering the intent of reorganization?

or the funny answer is he gets mad if his layout is changed

[solid otter]

Mm, they are very. Basic drones yeah. Makes sense if they saw it as "object not in the right place = broken and needs replacing", but im also curious as to why Albrecht. Needed it in the first place 😭 what kinda shit was he doing to break that many chairs

[zenith jacinth]

Lo

[azure solar]

its repedative

you are a murderchild in space- you earn your keep via the blood of your enemies

try cosigning with nightwave-

what\gen

DO NOT

not killed- ours is a fate worse than death (check dms for the joke)

gratuitous amounts of violence can be theraputic

not sure

its a person's brain in a jar essentially

we are litterally throwing concrete at a wall

"mom warned me about you- thank you for living up to my hopes and dreams babe"

but railjack tho

[azure solar]

not stick his finger between realms i bet

[azure solar]

prime orokin behavior- power trip + hubris

[thick jolt]

Wally after recovering his finger on his way to destroy all doors ever

[azure solar]

oh no im wearing black airforces because of my feelings for ballas- me and umbra

[azure solar]

the other orokin thought they were too cool to lose

[steep totem]

Joke's on you, I don't waste my money on shoes

[prisma island]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVwATSclNFv/?igsh=MWc3aDJhcjJ0bmF6aw==

thedemonprinceoffical

Uriel AC-130 mode is real.
Alt-🔥still works while flying -
Bubonico + Primary Debilitate turns
DOT into pure chaos.#warframe #tennocreate #gaming #warframecommunity #fyp

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[willow jay]

[wild wind]

wrong thread but also lol

[thick jolt]

it is very funny that people to this day still think crossed out means correct

[tight pagoda]

For the Coda they should make it a big pixelated 🚫

[mighty valley]

i do get people missing it on liches because liches are all red themed so people see the mod glowing red and dont notice the slash (think this is the problem with the person on reddit too, the slash blends in with the design)

[zenith jacinth]

Ok but correct glows golden

[mighty valley]

yeah but theyve never seen a correct one

[zenith jacinth]

When does red ever mean "this is correct"?

[solid otter]

Is that not what kuva liches do?

[zenith jacinth]

There's. So many things in the game pointing towards "oi, wrong one leggy!"

[solid otter]

Maybe the requiems are just. Red and its causing confusion

[zenith jacinth]

No

I've failed enough liches to know 🥲

[wild wind]

avakot go home

[tight pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

Follie one week away

[zenith jacinth]

yey

[forest kiln]

This meme takes me back to 2020 man it's been so long

[dawn hound]

||Ballas Dies|| and then ||Comes back||

[warm anvil]

WTF!?🤬 spoilers!!

[zenith jacinth]

ballas' last name is secretly afton

[solid otter]

[zenith jacinth]

begone.

[solar schooner]

Ballas

https://tenor.com/view/ballas-warframe-narmer-gif-24413311

[tight pagoda]

Pretty sure she still does it every Christmas

[deft mist]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-umbra-gif-19388420

[solar schooner]

[deft mist]

Couldnt gind a good one

[tame canopy]

guys, are the kim chats fixed? can I continue them now?

last time I asked, people say I should wait for hotfix cuz the rank changes were wonky

[warm anvil]

As far as I know theyve been fixed for a while

[tame canopy]

I see. Ok then ty

[jovial socket]

anyone knows what.. "Anathema" is this ?
like, what is it
cuz idk
also, Lyon has been stuck in the same dialog
FOR 2 DAMN DAYS

[floral hawk]

she's mad at you

you got blocked

[jovial socket]

o damn.
oof...

[solid otter]

What was the last conversation with marie?

[jovial socket]

mb, was in mission
here

[solid otter]

Oh weird

[floral hawk]

oh thats likely bugged

[solid otter]

Mm, would that be a rank up?

[jovial socket]

o and, stuck here with Lyon
HE'S STILL TYPING-

[floral hawk]

ohhhh boy

[jovial socket]

possibly, not sure

[floral hawk]

you're bugged out 😔 welcome to post-vauban heirloom kim hell

[solid otter]

Mm.

I got super lucky

[jovial socket]

[floral hawk]

you can ask support to reset without triggering a Certain Flag with roathe, but if you dont care about that iirc you have to reset via the digital grimoire

[jovial socket]

o and this

[solid otter]

Post new year fix, pre-vauban heirloom fix

[jovial socket]

dunno why its locked
or do i have to do bounties?

[solid otter]

Yeah those are bounties, are you rank 4?

[jovial socket]

maxed already

[solid otter]

Mm. Wait.

No yeah those are just chemistry

Just do their bounties or gift them a bunch of shit

[jovial socket]

got it.
random gifting time it is

[solid otter]

Protip, you get a unique convo if you don't gift arthur any petrol containers. Gas containers?

[jovial socket]

wha..?

but i dont think ive done that

...wait.

[solid otter]

Basically he still gets a lot of them but it was amir instead lol

Oh, also each item corresponds to something the hex would like

Eleanor likes the notepads, for example

[hearty pendant]

yea there's advice for gifting in their profiles

[jovial socket]

noted

[alpine lotus]

I love Flare so much

[tame canopy]

welp, I made a haphazard choice because I didn't read the dialogue clearly enough and now romance is out of the option lmao

not that Im gonna romance lettie yet

This is my first time fumbling socially and getting this note line

so curious to know, but does this mean the line's gonna stay indefinitely or is there an apology prompt somewhere later on?

[hearty pendant]

i haven't checked the hex's chats in a while but iirc there's some chances for apologies in regular chats, and then Q can force an apology chance if you chose that hex member for the 'advice' convo earlier on

[tame canopy]

Seriously, man, it's such a fumble, it's the definition of failing an easy speech check

ultimate level fumble

this is titled "hey" and it's when lettie gets real and shared the backstory about entrati and how they took his drugs

[solid otter]

Honestly that's not that crazy of a response

Like i aint gonna lie

Its not our job to fix Lettie's guilt issues

[hearty pendant]

ah, yea
that first message is a little misleading compared to where it leads
i might've messed up that one too at some point? unsure

[tame canopy]

Like idk, I was kinda expecting.... something about redemption

[solid otter]

I didn't i don't think, but thats cuz I genuinely struggle to say shit against people

[tame canopy]

cuz the mistakes are all said and done, and like the holfasts, the hex have their lives to work toward redemption for their errors

[uncut solar]

Lettie is really up in arms if you question her moral stance or dont give it enough weight

otherwise shes pretty chill

[tame canopy]

the holfasts were also responsible for extremely serious actions too, and it eventually killed them all, and their rank 5 even mentions how them being present at all is their chance at redemption

I was hoping the line was gonna bring something up like that

[solid otter]

Ngl thats fair

I do fully think its her shirking the guilt of her actions to Albrecht, instead of. Actually accepting her hand in it

[tame canopy]

she and her team were definitely culpable for it, for better or worse, by turning a blind eye at the fact they're taking meds from a suspicious man with dubious rep

[hearty pendant]

i agree with the 'hope is a dangerous thing' line but its definitely more nuanced than 'you're at fault' or 'he's at fault'

[tame canopy]

true....
It's kinda bad that I misread the message and assumed it was gonna lead to something else I imagined in my head : p

so that's an L on my end 💀

on a positive note, marie agreed to help me bring loid and entrati family together via roathe

[solid otter]

Yay!

Let's hope it doesn't bug for you

[tame canopy]

lyon agreed too pog

[solid otter]

[tame canopy]

Just need my 21 runs and get roathe in on the plan

radiation wars mentioned

im on trusted with roathe, everyone else are close

how high does my chems need to be for the good ending™?

[hearty pendant]

iirc you can only get an ending at rank 5
which is whatever's above close i think?

[solid otter]

Bro you need that done by now 😭

And its not chemistry that you should be worried about

You should be worried about Thermostat

[tame canopy]

idk what that is 💀

[hearty pendant]

internal value that determines which roathe ending you're heading towards

high thermostat is the 'good' ending, low is 'bad'
middle/neutral is fail

changed by how much you push him towards changing himself, or accepting his reputation as an orokin and the "devil of tau"

[solid otter]

Oh and for some reason, it seems you can get villainroach even with positive thermostat

[tame canopy]

is that... buggeD?

[hearty pendant]

imo no, high thermostat opens up the opportunity for change, but isn't guaranteed
he still has to be coaxed into it, and the wrong dialogue sends him back down

[solid otter]

Specifically this damn chat

In this order, it'll skip any thermostat check

And thats really annoying 😭

[hearty pendant]

does it use one of the shortcut booleans? or just. nothin

[solid otter]

Nothing to my knowledge

[hearty pendant]

that does seem odd

[solid otter]

It checks dating, reset, promise and hellstory

But nothing else

Starts from here

[hearty pendant]

i mean, maybe because he's spiralling, he's more open? but i'd still put a thermostat check there if i was doing it

[solid otter]

Id absolutely check for thermostat 😭

It would be so infuriating

[tame canopy]

wtf lmao

cursed as chat

[tame canopy]

So Im guessing he figured out he's gonna be transformed into the uriel warframe, no matter what?

[solid otter]

Mm, I wont answer that. You'll learn once you get past the 21 roathe fights. Btw you can just repeat the roach fight, and not the whole of descendia

[tame canopy]

you can???

Ermmm
I didn't know

: P

[solid otter]

Is that why you procrastinated it 💀

[tame canopy]

yes

i've settled into doing the normal and SP variant weekly

because grinding it all the way is tedious

[solid otter]

😭

[tame canopy]

im clueless what can I say :p

[hearty pendant]

the game does not make it clear that you only have to do the roathe fight unless you just try it yourself tbf

[solid otter]

True

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-feel-that-thats-xata-xata-warframe-meme-gif-15531284589461707381

[lethal vortex]

I am so evil for just continuously screwing with the devil's triad group

Intentionally

[solid otter]

Depends on what you mean lol

Like. Being super insensitive about Lyon's self harm or

[zenith jacinth]

Atlyss pfp detected

[lethal vortex]

You saw nothing!

[zenith jacinth]

I see peak

[misty veldt]

Yea only way I knew about it was because my friend forced me into the descendia day one of old peace update to get uriel and the bayonet and suddenly the vms just kinda come in naturally

[formal grove]

a theory I have that I admit is probably a stretch

the upcoming Operator/Drifter outfit looks like the Caliban Orfeo skin

maybe it's foreshadowing that Caliban's going to play a part in the upcoming Tau update?

[hearty pendant]

prolly not
specific warframes don't usually play a big part outside of their specific quests, and caliban has a regular source and is featured in old peace already
it could be cool though

[thick jolt]

I think it is more so a hint on the general direction
Caliban was already shown off in the old peace so rehashing that point doesnt feel like it leads anywhere

But the title of the nightwave, caliban, and the orfeus skin kinda make some sense

Caliban points to tau
The title is tempestuous time, so either a time of conflict or something maybe void or time related
Orpheus in the myths travelled to the underworld

[balmy storm]

It’s Tau themed without being Tau themed

I do hope we get a Sentient themed one later this year

I’d kill for a Xenoflora ephemera
Specially one similar to what Amar had going on

[thick jolt]

Also i really didnt expect deluxe themed operator suit on a nightwave

[boreal pewter]

If it becomes a regular thing that could be interesting, would make me wonder what other deluxes would get that treatment.

[solid otter]

Limbo deluxe operator skin.......

[balmy storm]

Xaku Deluxe Drifter suit…

[solid otter]

Limbo operator suit and its just Loid's fit

[thick jolt]

Just pottery haphazardly strapped to drifter

[balmy storm]

[balmy storm]

That’s the prime tho

[thick jolt]

With duct tape

[uncut solar]

And the pottery is from 1999

And there is visible tape holding it together

[thick jolt]

Just imagine remnants of the glow in the dark era lol

[uncut solar]

Talk about ceramic armor

[tight pagoda]

New suit is gonna go hard in Duviri ngl

[floral hawk]

the nightwave ad is the new op/dr armor?

holy hell thats really good

[zenith jacinth]

is it?

[floral hawk]

thats certainly not the Orfeo skin itself

[obtuse gyro]

Caliban mains eating good

Its me, Im Caliban Mains

[floral hawk]

harrow mains starved to death since 2021

lyon does not count

okay maybe a little bit

[zenith jacinth]

harrow doesn't need more

[night grail]

Im not even a caliban main but ykw i forgive them for not giving his prime floating animations this is awesome

[floral hawk]

dramatic epic floating idle but gets on all two of his feet to walk

funniest frame ever

[zenith jacinth]

I don't

they don't deserve forgiveness

[night grail]

Itd still be nice but like he's the specialest boy rn

Gyre got shafted 😭😭

[hearty pendant]

this is also true

[night grail]

I would have loved prime trailers for like, any of the ones released after protea but before styanax though even if i understand why they couldn't

I know styanax is like the special boy because he's #50

I just dont really jive with styanax gameplay wise even though his animation was awesome

[floral hawk]

harrow no prime trailer :(

[zenith jacinth]

I don't like how styanax looks

[night grail]

Yeah I dont love it either

[floral hawk]

its really reminiscent of early early frames

almost plasticky looking

styanax would fit with like trinity in the starchart frames lineup

[wild wind]

One thing about the upcoming Nightwave is that both Caliban and Protea were part of the Prime Vanguard

Might be cool to see a Mesa Deluxe Nightwave later this year

[spare kindle]

It wasn’t shown in the nightwave trailer but a reworked calaban skin potential a and signa was in the icon for it on insta im assuming its to match another frame/ operator due to the gap being sealed up

[obtuse gyro]

confirmed to be a drifter/operator suit no?

[spare kindle]

I just was informed by a friend Ty

[silk ocean]

i wanna unlock mirage
i dont enitrely know the riddle. just know that...where gods ruled so high i forget where that could be

[wise basalt]

As to not give the answer outright, but give a nudge in the general direction... think of ancient pantheons of our time.

[silk ocean]

so...Deimos, or earth...

[wise basalt]

Between the 2.

[silk ocean]

olympus!

has to be

[wise basalt]

There is definitely some things with some of the older quests that are a bit more of head scratchers than newer ones. Hidden Messages, in particular, is one of the very first ones, introduced all the way back in Update 14 alongside Howl Of The Kubrow and the first iteration of Vor's Prize. This same update was also what gave us the Orbiter that we've grown so accustomed to, at least in its initial iteration.

[silk ocean]

ohh, okay

it clocked me "old place old place" checked mars then went !!!

"to build the one you think witty, seek the nymph who sang oh so pretty..she lured him in with her song and a grin, his wife musti've thought it pity"

this ones actually stumped me

has to be a mission thats got a name thats actually known as a name in other ways..

[solid otter]

Nymph. Think of nymphs. No not a young dragonfly

[undone lodge]

It’s another Greek one

Like, greek plays/stories, think The Odyssey or Aeneid

[silk ocean]

ah, it had to be one of hte named nodes

i knew ti nix off zaramin void(?) and lua due to them having not been made available(?) at the updates release

figured it out to be calypso

[thick jolt]

It actually fills me with joy to see someone playing along with the mirage riddles

[silk ocean]

the next one i accidentally found ._. the last one anyway

i had searched sedna and one of the first nodes i had hovered over was the answer to #3

the survival mission didint need to take 15 long star charted minutes

[thick jolt]

That does make me wonder if the new survival speed up thing coming next week will affect those quest survival missions

[silk ocean]

makes me wonder too

i wanted to work on mirage because i wanted someone who could make my weapons go from "good" to GREAT without having to sacrafice more time hunting mods

and whaddya know, mirage be there

[undone lodge]

Wait whats happening?

Are they reducing the time until extraction?

[silk ocean]

theres gonna be a key and lock thing that lets you speed up the timer for a minute

potenitally making a 5 minute a 4 minute

[thick jolt]

Shadowgrapher will add a mechanic where you can speed up the timer by finding overrides near each air tower

[limpid temple]

Whoa spoilers...

[shadow forum]

[shadow forum]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-bnp-kavat-rip-gif-20541365

[high turret]

do I need to use this channel to ask about 1999 stuff? i just saw i need to get 'liked' status with all the hex people to unlock rank 4, honestly not enjoying this whole 1999 thing and just want to get the whole shop unlocked, does it take a long time to hit liked rank? i assume i just do 1 chat, send 1 gift and maybe do 1 bounty for each person daily?

[steady inlet]

Basically. Go through their chats, and each glowing response is a point (part of a point?). Check the calender as well, if you send a message on a member's birthday you'll get extra chemistry as well.

It goes decently quickly, all things considered.

[high turret]

dang i've just been clicking the first response in each option lol, thanks guess i'll just slog through it

[steady inlet]

I honestly forgot about the gifts part, but I enjoyed the story portiona of the KIM chats, so I didnt mind.

[solid otter]

Can I ask why you don't like it?

[high turret]

last time i played regularly was before new war so i guess i missed a lot of lore or something but its so weird and feels like it came out of nowhere doing the quests sequentially when i was catching up

[solid otter]

Yeah you missed a bit, they absolutely didn't come out of nowhere lol

[steady inlet]

See, thats what I felt at first (kinda did the same thing, ghosted the game and the came back), but things clicked for me pretty quick. I enjoyed the characters alot.

[solid otter]

Whispers in the walls introduces you to Arthur and Aoi, but you are introduced to more important players like Albrecht and the man in the wall far earlier

[high turret]

arthur and aoi were already weird in that brief thing and it didn't get better for me haha

just not a fan of the setting i guess, i like the sci-fi setting more than weird pseudo 1999

i think i'm just weirded out seeing human faces instead of monstrous cyborgs and pasty grineer 😂

[steady inlet]

Thats fair.

I enjoy slinging around in Operator/Drifter like some kinda... Void Spiderman through the city

[solid otter]

I mean, 1999 is sci-fi, think like the matrix or smthn

Iirc its a direct reference to Dark Sector

[high turret]

that probably explains why it feels like a different game that just got mashed in

[steady inlet]

I do really like some of the characters you meet at max rank with the Hex.

[high turret]

do I need to finish the hex ranking before i do old peace or can I go on with that without getting more lost 😅

[steady inlet]

Convincing (rank 5 spoiler) ||Flare to trust their rendition of the Helminth||, and then chatting with ||Kaya|| about ||Travelling through time||, and there not being their ||full frame found in the Future because Rebellion is built into it from their personality|| was cool.

[solid otter]

-# btw Flare uses they/them pronouns

[steady inlet]

I missed that in the first time, and caught it in the rest >.< being honest, i did the same thing for Ticker, because I hadnt found any of her backstory.

Only downside to Flare/Temple is the grind for the frame is arse.

[floral hawk]

i dread stage defense

why is flare SO SQUISHY

[wild wind]

defense target problems

[tame canopy]

see, that's totally Canon™ because flare's a proto frame and proto frames are still somewhat human /j

Random note: I did defection arbi yesterday with 2 wisp (I use wisp) and volt and we manage to did it long enough to saw dialogue of the red veil apparently kidnapping kavor defectors for experiments lol

we also get to learn that volt's speed breaks the damm AI, survivors died to being stuck in walls because of their speed more often than not

at least with wisp's haste mote, they don't get so outrageously fast it makes them get stuck lol

red veil mfs doing low key evil stuff against people's will, all in the name of cleansing the origin system it seems

[steady inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[tame canopy]

I barely remember what those guys even do, much like the rest of the starting 6 syndicates so it is what it is

[tame hull]

This MIGHT not be considered a spoiler cause I only name him but better safe than sorry
Is it a guaranteed wally spawn when placing down the chair? And is it an instant spawn?

[floral hawk]

randomized iirc

[obtuse gyro]

instant? no. eventually guaranteed? yes

[tight pagoda]

It's the only way for Wally to appear in the Backrooms, but it doesn't guarantee a spawn. It uses the same chances as Orbiter/Drifter camp.

And if you put the chair in Orbiter/Drifter camp I believe he will only go on that.

[floral hawk]

wait what chair to make wally spawn in the backrooms? the normal office chair?

sucks that getting wally'd has stopped for me since i main drifter

[balmy storm]

He still shows up regardless

[floral hawk]

REALLY?

[solid otter]

Just as operator yeah

[balmy storm]

He’s never shown up as Drifter but even for Drifter he appears as Operator

[floral hawk]

oh my god ive never gotten wallied for years now

[solid otter]

Ive always found it weird that he does that

[balmy storm]

Which I still think it’s weird that even in 1999 he shows up as Operator

[balmy storm]

It happens!

[solid otter]

Same thought lol

[balmy storm]

He’s like a shiny pokemon

[floral hawk]

i miss wally so bad i gotta put the chair down

is it velimirs normal office chair?

[balmy storm]

Gotta get the wally charm

[solid otter]

I got wally'd once while eating garlic bread and choked 💔

[balmy storm]

Yeah the “normal” office chair

[solid otter]

Mhm. The totally normal chair

[floral hawk]

hell yeah

[balmy storm]

It’s totally normal and an eldritch entity totally didn’t sit in it

[solid otter]

Its supposed to be the chair Albrecht got his ass beat in

[floral hawk]

i miss wally so much :( he stopped popping in when i mained drifter a bit after tnw so i thought i did smth to make him block me

[balmy storm]

Actually
Ik its just cause funny
But it’d be funny if he left a piece of himself in a chair as an extra smaller tether to 1999

In reality we are probably that tether

[solid otter]

I think the rates are just really weird

[balmy storm]

Also the chair he jumpscared us in
And I believe it’s the same kind that Amir fell onto

Not that Amir being shot has anything to do with it specifically lol

[solid otter]

As far as I know there's nothing that increases wally spawn rate other than I believe chains of harrow having a confirmed spawn upon completion iirc

[balmy storm]

He’s like a shiny pokemon but the odds are full and you only roll for the encounter whenever you come back from a mission

[balmy storm]

Sacrifice has the confirmed one too

[tight pagoda]

It's how Drifter looked when making the deal, it's a mockery of their biggest mistake, the day their life changed permanently

[solid otter]

I think the chair he jumpscared us in was the chair Albrecht got beaten in 😭 maybe neci stole a chair from the reactor building to beat Albrecht in

[balmy storm]

I kinda hope that however way we defeat him he doesn’t leave us
I mean
He partially can’t, he’s why we have our powers

[tight pagoda]

Yeah when we go rescue Albrecht and suddenly it's just Wally in his hat, that's the same chair

[balmy storm]

I don’t think that’s really why, he can show up as anyone

[solid otter]

I don't think we're gonna fully kill wally. Maybe pull a nihil and put him in the toob

[tight pagoda]

I lowkey feel like he shows up more when the game is about to or has recently updated

I got hit with him right before Lotus Eaters and Old Peace

[balmy storm]

I don’t think we can kill him entirely tbh

He may just live on through us and the fingers but like
He’d still exist

[solid otter]

I will genuinely throw someone if wally gets to live but Albrecht doesn't

[tight pagoda]

True, plus Scathing/Mocking Whispers use Drifter I suppose

[balmy storm]

Nah Albrecht can die
Wally can’t

[balmy storm]

So the only time he shows as Drifter is to hurt us
He just hates Drifter tbh

Both were an experiment but Drifter wasn’t even allowed to leave, no cool powers, just pain til total apathy

[solid otter]

Ik he can die i just. Will be unbelievably annoyed if he does die 😭 like why does he get to avoid any consequence

What was the point of the whole. redemption shit if we aint gonna see it actually happen to the person who asked in the first place

[balmy storm]

LOL

I mean let him face consequences and redeem himself and then he can die

Or he’ll just accept death
Which
I hope if he tries that we save him

“Nuh uh old man, FIX THIS.”

[solid otter]

Eh, the consequences are gonna be a continual thing i feel, he hurt a lot of people and that pain will not go away for a long time

[solid otter]

Albrecht kinda already has, but it. It seems to be a martyr thing and if he succeeds I will bite uhh. Nemesis or smthn

Don't let that man martyr himself

[balmy storm]

Imagine, he accepts death or dies somehow and his guilt is SO intense a void ghost manifests of him, akin to the Holdfasts

[solid otter]

His void saturated body is just incapable of death

[balmy storm]

Lol

[solid otter]

I wonder if. That's ever gonna be talked about outside Roach suggesting it

[balmy storm]

I don’t think this would happen btw, the Holdfasts weren’t even made from their lingering emotions, not entirely
Something that already exists physically/mentally needs to start up the conceptual embodiment machine

[solid otter]

Void contamination seems like a pretty bad thing, how did Albrecht manage after it?

[balmy storm]

He didn’t

Remember how Loid had to like
Regrow his skin and everything

Ik part of that was the bell but he still went into the void unprotected

[solid otter]

I mean yeah he got his skin regrown n shit, but does that mean the contamination was only skin deep?

[balmy storm]

🤷‍♀️

It may have cut deeper

He was being cared for for a while it seemed

[solid otter]

Maybe it is like radiation, and has. Different types of rays that can affect in different ways

I wonder how Euleria felt when she saw what happened to her father

[balmy storm]

He was also in an odd part

Wally may have protected him in some way but
We don’t know his motivations in that moment so it’s hard to say

We don’t even know if he existed before that moment LOL

[solid otter]

I wonder if thats why she was obsessed with finding him in the void, maybe she didn't remember what actually happened during it, and not remembering ||the panels they were given to read||

[solid otter]

I fully think he didn't tbh, Roach is of the same opinion regretfully but I do agree I think

[floral hawk]

got my stage defense Flare killed by a blitz call that nonbinary erasure

[solid otter]

Ive seen Flare get nuked in temporal Archimedia from like. Half health and it was so annoying 😭

[undone lodge]

Old Peace happens alongside 1999 and it’s post content, basically what the Operator’s doing while Drifter’s busy

Though, just a heads up, there’s more time travel to a different period in the post-OP content, with a portal appearing in the Sanctum and Drifter meeting new, unrelated Protos to talk to and date

Though instead of going around the new time period, that’s just where their hub area is, and the actual gameplay is a special mode called Descendia

[tame hull]

Oh. I placed the chair and before I was even out of decoration mode he had appeared lmao that's why im asking

[tame canopy]

roathe just turned close for me

now I guess I need my 21 runs : P

[solid otter]

Let's hope for the best.

[tame canopy]

Istg if I did it all for a bad ending

I might legit restart the loop

[solid otter]

Honestly the triad is kinda made to be looped

[tame canopy]

for real? 🧐 can you elaborate?

[solid otter]

Mm, do you mind mild spoilers for non-important things?

[tame canopy]

I don't mind it, I am low key a completionist so I don't mind

[solid otter]

Sick. ||Roathe learns of the loop, basically. He slowly realises, or he can immediately realise that he has been looped, and iirc he does not like it at all.||

[tame canopy]

YO new lotus gift just dropped

Dex sybaris
Excalibur Dex in Action Glyph

[solid otter]

Poggers

[tame canopy]

Not surprised

the descendia runs have him directly said orokin values memories

and what we did, is essentially erased his memories for a redo

[solid otter]

They value memories more than children lmao

[tame canopy]

even if his future, redeemed version of him would not get mad, the past version wouldn't lol

[solid otter]

For realistically a pointless reason

[solid otter]

Oh no redeemed roach still doesn't like it iirc ||he still hates Albrecht for doing to him, even though he asked for it lmfao||

[tame canopy]

bro did not read the fine print /j

bad move for a general, smh shaking my head

btw im gonna buy one of the arcane helmets for collection's sake

arcane coil helmet, from mag

got an offer for 1000 plats 👀

[solid otter]

WOOF. Thats a lot christ

[tame canopy]

oh yeah, it's discontinued cosmetics, that tangibly gives extra powers lol

apparently at one point DE made helmets that gives powerups in exchange for a slight debuff

they discontinued it, but let anyone who brought them kept their copies for use or trading 👀

I heard this stuff also stacks with mods in today's time too

[solid otter]

I am. Aware of them yeag

Iirc thats why we have alt helms

[tame canopy]

alt helms on the nightwave?

🤔 so they are related?

huh, TIL

7
more
parts
and then, I will have 1 copy of every parts of an amp

there is now 2 grinds I eventually need to address
mining and fishing

[floral hawk]

just like the chaos emeralds...

[tame canopy]

NOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME
the 7 lil duck amp parts:

[floral hawk]

THIS CANT BE HAPPENING...

the 7 LD amp parts throwing u fish and mining parts like healing items lmfao

[cerulean kiln]

Obey the Void or it’ll kill you

[tame canopy]

The Void Giventh, and The Void Takenth

[tame canopy]

ki'teer exclusive new region

[solid otter]

Broken ki'teer 💔

[still swan]

i also got same stuff

[deft mist]

Same

[upbeat halo]

wait i dint understand the ending of whisper in the walls

[solid otter]

Wally was pushed back by the visualisation of Albrecht and Loid's love for each other

[upbeat halo]

damn they gay?

[solid otter]

Yup.

[upbeat halo]

poor dagath

[solid otter]

No lmao

[opaque cargo]

Can you change the look of your Operator after 2nd Dream?

[solid otter]

Albrecht's ex-wife was from an arranged marriage, neither party had a hand in it, and Dagath was not said ex-wife

[upbeat halo]

my head, so albretch aint dad of mother?

[thick jolt]

Dagath is mother of father/vilcor

[solid otter]

He is, but grandmother is Father's mother

Not mother's mother

[spark brook]

Alright glinty!!! That’s the best part!

[misty veldt]

Yes

[upbeat halo]

ohhh gotcha

[solid otter]

Mother's mother was ||named Gerivaine, and she is. Very dead. She died sometime after Mother's birth||

[opaque cargo]

Will it copy the look you have from Duviri if you already did that quest?

[thick jolt]

Or rather the skatist formerly known as dagath lol

[tame canopy]

Exploite orb will save me from some grind, i hope lol

[misty veldt]

I dont think it does no

[azure solar]

yes

[solid otter]

Mrs/Ms... Lady? Vorten, if you will

[thick jolt]

Found an image thomas made of the family tree
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650808321048596/1484030450803413002/entrati-2.png?ex=69beb8cf&is=69bd674f&hm=4207c94430cdbb8f14c62bdb5ac70bc568786878c9d62504bcb83827b1138d27&

[solid otter]

Woah i didnt make that

[thick jolt]

Well you posted it in lore at least

[solid otter]

Its just propagated by me mainly

[spark brook]

It’s not that baaaad. Just put on a podcast or tv in the background and mine ❤️

As a Minecraft in warframe enjoyer, it is very cozy, especially if you have a resource booster on because oh hell

[upbeat halo]

oh so why did they take entrati name?

[solid otter]

Its also super out of date, we have names for everyone but the grandchildren

[solid otter]

Because, the stronger family absorbed the lesser one it seems

The Entrati being stronger due to their nature as the upkeepers of void technology

[tame canopy]

I supposed so. I do have oxylus as well so i can find fishing hotspots and dont need dye at least

[solid otter]

Pretty hard to beat that tbh

[upbeat halo]

also if you dont me asking, what is tennokai and how is it related to albretch?

[spark brook]

I mean it’s also a world filled with space ninjas, ancient tech, and mystical stuff. It’s not unreasonable to assume a woman’s side of the family can be the last name they take 😭

[solid otter]

No clue how its related to Albrecht tbh. This dude collected random shit

[solid otter]

Tbf the orokin didnt really have. Gender roles

[cerulean kiln]

Still had enough time for another child unless Albrecht cheated

[tame canopy]

Yeah when youre part of the lineage that made the orokin empire basically moved up a civ scale ladder youre immortalized lol

[solid otter]

... mpreg

Or, the children are older

[spark brook]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-love-cute-grab-baby-gif-17001396

That’s enough internet for you today Thomas

[solid otter]

NO

[thick jolt]

Albrecht hoarded the manuals away from fishonaccis flippers

[upbeat halo]

not being misogynistic, just curious as to why, since the orokin seemed to be a proud race who dint really seem to respect equality

or rights in general

[opaque cargo]

Okay NOW THE DUVIRI PARADOX MAKES MORE SENSE

[cerulean kiln]

When did it not make sense?

[solid otter]

They did, thats the funny thing. They couldn't gaf about gender or attraction

[spark brook]

She’s on second dream

[solid otter]

They cared about their precious castes

And the status quo

[spark brook]

I wasn’t claiming you were! It’s more of a “think outside the patriarchy” statement. Their customs are different and stuff than our real life ones

[cerulean kiln]

DE should just lock Duviri to post New War already

[solid otter]

They only cared if you went outside your caste, which. Even then, they didnt gaf about it if you were orokin

[tame canopy]

When bodies and genes are exchangeable (the body markets and yuvan theater) theres bound to be blurring of lines and changes in norms

[upbeat halo]

uh jade?

[solid otter]

She wasn't orokin

[upbeat halo]

ohh

[cerulean kiln]

Orokin did a Drifter and became indifferent over time

[solid otter]

She and Sorren were low guardians iirc, and that was a seperate thing

[upbeat halo]

well i will play the jade shadows before further inquiry

[upbeat halo]

the indifference

seems to core subject here

[solid otter]

The great indifference...

[upbeat halo]

im yet to understand waht it means

[tame canopy]

For them the sentients going to war with them really shake the centuries long monotomy

[cerulean kiln]

We aren’t even told what Jade was just what her lover was

[solid otter]

Their poor status quo! Its ruined. The orokin can actually die and aren't unshakeable gods!

[tame canopy]

they thought it was gonna be a sweep but then they realized the status quo isnt tipping to their favor and thats when it got scary lol

So much so the wf project wasnt even assumed to win

Roathe said it was regarded more... An artistic project/statement iirc

[cerulean kiln]

“We are losing this war, you say”

Sentients didn’t even lose the Old War they just went into hiding to continue it later

That’s why Hunhow took a bath

[solid otter]

Methane bath...

[cerulean kiln]

Still silly how you have people assuming Hunhow was dying in New War

He just said he was waiting to die not that death was chasing after him

[solid otter]

Real

Albrecht faking his death core tbh

[cerulean kiln]

I’d more believe Albrecht trying to die than Hunhow

[solid otter]

Albrecht seemingly has tried before

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht thinking the Void would let him die is certainly something

Wally has got other plans for him

Silly Albrecht

[solid otter]

Silly fella

[cerulean kiln]

I want my finger before I let you die

[solid otter]

Nuh uh

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht accidentally saved by his daughter and an emotional child

[solid otter]

He cannot die and he hated it and thats so real of him

[cerulean kiln]

Think if he tried again he’d die

[solid otter]

I think his time in duviri was another attempt personally so I do doubt it

[cerulean kiln]

Funny how he jumped in just fine but Teshin didn’t

[solid otter]

Maybe he didn't? But I suppose we don't know much else

[cerulean kiln]

At least Kullervo didn’t have to deal with fall damage

[solid otter]

Albrecht can handle it

He fell straight on his face when he fell out of the seriglass bell

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht also has 0 mention of aging faster

[solid otter]

True...

[cerulean kiln]

Game hates Teshin

[azure solar]

albriecht did cheat- WE HAVE HIS BOY TOY IN STILL PLAYING CLEAN UP AFTER HIS SILLY SELF

[azure solar]

why would a fish need sword techniques?...

[azure solar]

nonono they didnt respect. period. they just couldnt openly screw with other orokin'

[azure solar]

she was a dax originally- kind of a funtime pet to them- kinda like an adult toy for their pleasures and fantasies- they were also toxic af to her too

[azure solar]

drifter grew numb DUE TO TRAUMA and ABUSE- orokin elite abandoned their humanity and compassion in favor of self-idolization

seeing themselves as above the natural order

[azure solar]

he did try suicide or self neglect to get out of his deal

[undone lodge]

No lore beyond the message’s description, unfortunately

Chosen Operator. A friendly suggestion: you could do so much more with those Melee weapons of yours. I donate my wisdom on both tool and technique. Listen well.

TENNOKAI, a fighting technique fusing Void and Beastial instinct. Raw power. While I have never used Tennokai, I understand it perfectly. Somewhat of a mind mastery. Enough so that lost materials pertaining to Tennokai have been stored just out of my reach in the Sanctum.

Tools. Papa was not one to rest. Use this segment to unlock more potential for your Arsenal. The Arcane was an art and science that Papa studied well – the convexity of my bowl a magnifying glass on his research, and now your gain.

Install this segment, acquire Melee Arcanes, find Tennokai Modules, and observe the results: the swift deletion of your foes.

—Fibonacci

Presumably the relation with Tennokai is either that

• it was invented as part of one of the many experiments/studies
• Albrecht nabbed info on it so that he could give it the Tenno/Chosen Operator
• they just had it because the Entrati were huge nerds, such huge nerds they had the biggest libraries even though books were seen as archaic

[solid otter]

Hm? What deal? I was referring to how Albrecht recklessly threw himself into the void

Like. The first time

[azure solar]

he also tried just floating on a wierd thing and either letting it kill him or self-neglecting

[solid otter]

Mm, that was the healing process after thr void incident iirc

[fringe pond]

prolly Felarx yeah?

[timid remnant]

Get the funny gun

[loud terrace]

Ok I got myself some plat to get the grand carnus regalia. I hope it meshes with the new nightwave regalia

[quasi pier]

Idk that Zariman Plinth looks aweful fancy

[fringe pond]

I’ll consider it

[subtle bolt]

what do i do with this

[wild wind]

I think Kahl can loot it? been forever though

[subtle bolt]

oh i had to give command to my fighters, they put something inside it and it opened lol

[winged sequoia]

Is this true?

[lethal vortex]

No

[winged sequoia]

It’s only through conclave missions right? I thought I was going crazy

[next imp]

What did you guys reach with Marie about entrati? I convinced her he’s a complicated man

[night grail]

And faceoff

Which has more players than conclave but not that many

[winged sequoia]

Face off??

[winged sequoia]

Are you talking about in the beginning? I believe we chose to believe our own beliefs?

[next imp]

No after the fight with tager in the Kim

[winged sequoia]

I don’t think I’ve gotten that far

The last thing me and her talked about was her childhood and her friend Hugo (I think his name was)

[solid otter]

I got the same one. Thats the good ending for her

[next imp]

[solid otter]

I loved seeing folk struggle to get to that point either because they either cannot accept that the story is wanting you to realise Albrecht isnt some giga evil bastard, or because they think that lying to her would ever help them romance her lmfao

[steady inlet]

Thats where I got, and then the KIMs got bugged out and I didnt get the final reveal for tham all.

[tight pagoda]

It "should" as in the poster is wanting that to be a function, not something that currently exists

Right now the only way for conclave standing is conclave, and the Faceoff game mode if you're not playing against bot

[deft mist]

I tried to be more deflecting doesnt work so yeah im goi g to probably reset it

[fringe pond]

They’re saying should
As in this is a suggestion

They’re not saying that’s how conclave standing works lol

[fringe pond]

1999

[night grail]

In Höllvania?

[trail timber]

So my relationship status with lettie is best friends but im dating her would she still show up in my backroom? Because i think they only show up when the relationship status is “loved”?

[tight pagoda]

Yeah just keep progressing a bit further

[trail timber]

Ok thanks

[tight pagoda]

If you just started dating her it will take a bit more chemistry to boost her from Best Friends to Loved

[marsh tide]

anyone know why I did'nt recieve drops from prime time? I have compare my twich with the game. I was reciever so many thinkgs but from last prime time I didnt. pls help 🙏 is it bc warframe is hacked?

[solid otter]

Send in a support ticket and they should help

[tame canopy]

interesting thoughts from lyon on the nature of the indifference

or perhaps it's better to say it's his opinions on the indifference's true nature

basically, if it's created by humanity, that's more terrifying than if it were a deity that existed before human input

also, for some reason, I got 2 VM from roathe at once

Im on run 14 so maybe they're from thaT?

[solid otter]

Yeah he does that

[tame canopy]

Turns out I didn't know roathe's gimmicks as well as I assumed

: P had to look it up after he insta killed me

he's at the point of telling me to stop now

no new, spontaneous messages appear yet

maybe it'll all come in tomorrow

[fringe pond]

The funny!

[tame canopy]

all right, all the runs are done

now, I patiently await the messages

[solar schooner]

Real big spoilers ||Ballas comes back||

[shadow forum]

Imagine ballas comes back in the tau with wally.

now that is some fun.

[cerulean kiln]

I'd rather him stay dead

[deft mist]

I have a upgraded umbra with his name on it if he does

[shadow forum]

i hope they use excalibur umbra to take revenge on fighting the ballas and wally.

[soft pumice]

noice

[solid otter]

Why would umbra, the guy with the easily exploitable memory of killing his son, ever be put against wally, the guy who exploits memories 😭

[alpine crane]

My brain had a funny thought this morning and I just want to share it, in this chat to allow spoilers to make the full bit more understandable
what would people think a Warframe Universe Beyond would be like,
I personally think the gimmick would be sort of like crew, but with Tenno Tokens to Transference into warframe Creatures as the "new gimick, and then perhaps adaptation as a thing another "set" would get, with adaptation being gaining +1 +1 counters from blocking with a creature of the sentient type. When talking with another freind in my MTG server we talked a bit and he said

"I could see them doing 5 precons, one for each faction."
*Player faction would be mount stuff with the different Warframes. *
*Grineer being Rakdos with a sacrifice and token theme kinda since they're mostly clones. *
*Corpus being Dimir artifacts based around treasures and robots. *
*Infested being either Jund or 5 color similar to slivers. *
And the Sentients as a potential colorless precon

I then said I think that Player Faction would be 5 color and that Sentients would be Colorless with the "new" Keyword adaptation.
I personally think that Adaptation would work via, if they take any damage from a source, they gain protection from up to 1 color of said source's damage
and he said "Adaptation makes it gain that color and it has protection from each of its own colors"

MTG Warframe Idea, but put in spoiler Chat because it may have spoilers.

[deft mist]

I wouldnt uae him against wally juat ballas

[tame canopy]

yeah umbra legit got more beef with ballas than wally - which, on another note, it's wild that umbra literally doesn't physically show up or is implied to do anything at all in the story arc where ballas takes over the origin system

[alpine crane]

personally I think that he is in "morning' from having our Tenno die.
losing another person he cared for due to Ballas.

[ocean furnace]

I mean isnt he with us

[deft mist]

And hade shadows says he walks around our orbiter so can you imagine like staker getting skajati against his neck hearing umbras growling

[hearty pendant]

ballas could just hit umbra with "Stop." again
umbra's not doin much against ballas

[tame canopy]

We don't even need that much

just him, idk, physically showing up, reacting, or doing something

he legit got a name drop and that's it, he barely meets the minimum of appearance after his quest lol

[deft mist]

Right the whole dax thing

[tame canopy]

there's a lot more steps before having ballas personally skewered by umbra - something that's done in his own quest already

[undone lodge]

No the Transference Bolt

[tame canopy]

wait, my memories are abit muddy, was the name drop even part of the new war or was it exclusively from jade shadows, when we sneak in the orbiter as stalker?

[hearty pendant]

just jade shadows, umbra doesn't have anything unique in tnw iirc

[tame canopy]

So, where was he when we got a time-skip of drifter doing their business fighting against narmer forces and rescuing people? drifter was introduced with ordis as company so I would presume unless otherwise stated, umbra should still be around the orbiter/drifter camp

Ive always found it off umbra apparently hangs around the orbiter and we dont even get at least a dialouge or two beside the name drop in jade shadows acknowledging he even exists in-lore

Its a nitpick, but it is still something that im mildly preoccupied with

[azure solar]

umbra does get around this though :#

[thick jolt]

We get around the command not umbra

[azure solar]

by lifting his sword just a little bit

[hearty pendant]

yea, we're the one that stabs ballas, not umbra

[azure solar]

if he pulls a purple man im pulling a fnaf (was it 3 they burn the building down?)

"and for one of you- the deepest pit of hel has opened up to swallow you whole"

[azure solar]

i want

[hearty pendant]

-# 3 and 6, the speech bit is 6

[azure solar]

you click on it with a camera and it summons the deacons over i think

[azure solar]

oh cool

[cerulean kiln]

No we pushed it not lifted it

Had to go in a little further

Good old out transferring Ballas

[azure solar]

ballas balassing the operator "HEY YOU LEAVE MY NEW FLESH-STEEL-PUPPET ALONE

[fringe pond]

With the topic at hand in mind, i really think a standoff between The Stalker and Umbra would have went so hard
They wouldn’t have had to fight either, it just would have been neat

[hasty hatch]

question: ive redeemed roathe, and convinced lyon to help loid reunite with the family. but i just had a conversation with roathe that said i didnt convince marie yet, the issue is i think ive already finished all the chats i can have with her... is there anything i can do or do i have to reset the triad to get marie to agree?

[hasty hatch]

they wouldve been awesome characters to meet for sure, two sentient frames!

[solid otter]

Go check her status first

[hasty hatch]

i have, on lyons status it says i convinced him to reunite the family, and on maries it doesnt - just says i convinced her entrati is a complicated man

which i think means i didnt convince her indeed;;

[solid otter]

No, that is the right one

Mm, what was your last conversation?

[hasty hatch]

oh really?? how so?

hmmm let me see

she starts with "tamer of devils" and reminisces over how much weve done together

or should i seek out the exact rank#convo#?

[solid otter]

We're supposed to see that Albrecht isnt just ballas 2.0, which is what Marie is for, to show us thst Albrecht is capable of good. So, we get her to recognise that he isnt a saint, but he isnt literal satan. Ergo, Albrecht is a complicated man

[solid otter]

That won't really mean much. They're randomised

Within their own rank, I mean

[hasty hatch]

true yeah, thats exactly what i convinced her of- so im surprised to see that i apparently failed to convince her to reunite loid with the family

[hasty hatch]

thats true yesyes

[solid otter]

When was the last conversation? You might’ve just gotten unlucky orrrr I think marie is the last one to convince?

Mm. Or was that the bug fixing conversation they made..

[hasty hatch]

i dont know Exactly but i believe a few days ago, since then shes been offline so i think ive exhausted all of the dialogue i have with her 😔

[solid otter]

shit.

[hasty hatch]

yeahhhhh

i might just have to reset atp 💔 i wanna try to get everything

[solid otter]

What the hell? That's so odd. Do you have all convos on?

[hasty hatch]

yupyup, the option is checked

[solid otter]

You can send in a support ticket to get it reset without triggering a Roathe thing, but if you don't mind that its fine

You also won't need to do descendia again

[hasty hatch]

maybeee but honestly? i wont be too upset to reset because i unfortunately procrastinated doing descendia for ages so i think i missed a LOT of convos i couldve had if i had more than 21 or even just more than one run LOL, might be fun to see what way those convos couldve gone

[hasty hatch]

LOL honestly i did all 21 runs in one go and wasnt that bad, valkyr wipes the floor with him 😔 sorry not sorry roathe

idm doing it again ahah

[solid otter]

If you don't mind spoilers, ||The roathe thing is that he eventually realised thst you reset his memories. And he gets pissed about it cus. Orokin and their memories or whatever||

Also getting to reunite Loid with the family is. Awesome, but a lot of people got really bugged. Im one of the lucky few who got through

[hasty hatch]

yeahhh i know about that and im a little worried on it, but also i didnt make the promise with him to do it so maybe it only counts if its that...? i dont know? honestly all the booleans coded into the convos are so complex its wild LOL

[hasty hatch]

damn! i see!

[solid otter]

Oh dw the promise doesnt mean much, I never made the promise and I was fine

[hasty hatch]

woohoo! okay thats good to know

🫡 well . looks like i shall reset cuz might be fun to do so anyway, thank u for ur information gamer

[solid otter]

Idk why they made the triad so severely complicated, its only caused issues

[hasty hatch]

appreciate it loads :]]

[solid otter]

[hasty hatch]

HONESTLY i was checking out the kimulacrum and the amount of booleans that kim convos use PALE to the triad ones

[solid otter]

This but more enthusiastic

[hasty hatch]

LOL tyty

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[solid otter]

Its so bad 😭 it got bad enough during the fixes that it affected the other kims slightly [accidentally screwed with Kaya and her profile??]

[hasty hatch]

oh god thats wild omg?? i didnt know abt wf during the time that old peace came out so i missed all of the bugs LOL

its a really ambitious project so it makes sense though

[solid otter]

Wow insane time to get to the triad in like. 3 months woah

[zenith jacinth]

Yea wth

[hasty hatch]

i just got put on wf a few months ago by a friend ahahah

[solid otter]

Tbf I got to whispers in like. 4ish months but thats like. 2 whole updates less back then 😭

[zenith jacinth]

90% of wf bugs are just

[solid otter]

Spaghettiframe...

[zenith jacinth]

Black hole/gravity frame

[hasty hatch]

i spedrun the whole story through the sheer power of insanity 🫡 i love this games lore

[solid otter]

As in. I started in 2024 and finished shit just before 1999 dropped

[zenith jacinth]

I started in 2021

I do not remember how long it took me

[hasty hatch]

it wouldve been rly cool to know abt this game earlier though, feels like i missed out on so much!! i literally never heard abt it until my friend showed me him playing

now its all i can think abt LOL

[zenith jacinth]

Nah you barely missed anythin tbh

[solid otter]

I latched into the entrati family and their lore pretty hard 😭 I was feral once I learned that we were going to reunite Loid with them

[zenith jacinth]

But hey if you're new-ish and like the lore you should join my clan :)
Jk

[hasty hatch]

😔 me 3 months ago starting w excalibur and learning that ill never get his prime bc i didnt own a pc when i was 10

[solid otter]

REAL

Hold on lemme do some math

[zenith jacinth]

Old

[hasty hatch]

I LOVE THEM SM THEYRE SO UNDERRATED! honestly even tho a handful of quests reference them, i hope we get some more quests that actually deal with them directly like heart of deimos 🥀

[zenith jacinth]

(I was only 8 when wf released )

[solid otter]

Should've broken ToS and played it when i was 6 💔

[hasty hatch]

im already part of a clan BUTT im lowk thinking of changing bc they dont have any deco and i rly love cool decorated clans

when was wf released 2013?

[zenith jacinth]

Oh..

My clan is like. Brand new

[hasty hatch]

!!!! omg i hope u get to do some cool stuff :D

[zenith jacinth]

I want to decorate but hard to do without resources which research is guzzling away

[solid otter]

Its so sad 💔 there is a. Impressive amount of lore for the. 3 updates that mainly involves them [heart of deimos, whispers, and kinda the old peace cus of the triad??]

[hasty hatch]

OH YEAH ON THE TOPIC OF QUESTS THAT I REALLY HOPE COME SOON

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED BETWEEN DUVIRI AND NEW WAR ON DRIFTERS SIDE?? i need to know!!!! HOW DID THEY GET CLUED IN

[zenith jacinth]

Remember that waverider involves grandma

[solid otter]

Ohh, that is just the duviri paradox!

[zenith jacinth]

The paradox quest is during tnw

[hasty hatch]

old peace was so good for that reason bc it finally dropped what happened to operator all those years ago,,, DELICIOUS

[hasty hatch]

nono i know!!

i mean like, after they leave duviri and before they get to new war

[hearty pendant]

^ new war act 1, duviri paradox, new war act 2 + 3

[hasty hatch]

cuz drifter just... shows up at the ship and somehow knows exactly what to do??

[solid otter]

Oh, also the tales of duviri is written by Mother/Euleria

[zenith jacinth]

Drifter just got yeeted out and went "welp time to fix this"

[hasty hatch]

LOL honestly, id love to see some more in depth stuff to it though. like i Need to see their reaction to popping out of hell and finding out theres a whole new hell going on 💀

[solid otter]

Yeah its kinda weird. Maybe some kimchats could help... maybe if we get more in shadowgrapher

[zenith jacinth]

-# apparently some ppl hate "welp" and it makes me want to use it more

[solid otter]

Im delusional and im taking the fact we're getting Loid floofs as proof that we might get more chats, specifically Loid ones

[hasty hatch]

i hope so toooooo, i need the next story quest so so badly (ik they take ages and honestly DE are amazing for practically pushing out a story quest per year)

[hasty hatch]

FRRR LOID NEEDS MORE ATTENTION

[solid otter]

The floof kinda concerns me but we'll find out in. 4 days?

[hasty hatch]

YES and i feel like that should be touched upon!! like what do u mean drifter Wouldnt bring that up around mother?? like "hi i was trapped in the physical manifestation of your story and got tortured. nice to meet u"

[zenith jacinth]

You could help by joining and donating ferrite so I can complete research faster heheh :)

[solid otter]

Go my Loid ...

[hasty hatch]

honestly i love farming so i wouldnt mind helping out LOL

[zenith jacinth]

-# I'm doing all the research solo and it sucks ;-;

[hasty hatch]

i need more stuff to do in the game

[hasty hatch]

go my loid,,,,

[zenith jacinth]

I love how slightly scuffed necraloid's skull looks

[solid otter]

I believe its Lyon who has a chat about something with the book duviri, but its nothing as cool as that. Mother would also just be thrilled that drifter is the living embodiment of. Eternalism, something she was enthusiastic about

She's also the other teacher on the zariman not the cephalon, but the person who explains stuff like. Eternalism n stuff

[hasty hatch]

EXACTLY!! you get it !!!!

god GODDD this world is so so intricately intertwined all together and its beautiful

[solid otter]

Loid also was partially her parental support when Albrecht was off being depressed

[hasty hatch]

i love u warframe ur so incredible warframe

[solid otter]

And I love that so much

[hasty hatch]

loid needs more respect he has been doing SO MUCH all the TIME

[zenith jacinth]

By the void now there's two thomases

Same exact energy

[solid otter]

We should fear Loid just a little

As drifter at least

[hasty hatch]

LMAO for sure

[solid otter]

Loid has been hinted at since heart of deimos dropped, and his character has seemed to be consistent, and I love that

Son has a line about Loid carrying him on his shoulders through the gardens and

That kinda hurts man what the hell DE

[hasty hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

wait thats so cute what the hell

[solid otter]

Yeah! And once again, if you don't mind spoilers for the reunion. ||loid helped care for mother, waking her up and dressing her, "teaching her to be kind", actually teaching her things (this comes from whispers but yk), and helped her light candles in honour of her dead mother ||

[hasty hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-screaming-machin3girl-gif-22623519

OUHHHHH I CARE THEM ALL SO MUCH

[solid otter]

I love them all so much

Oh, you'd like this

So I got to ask Rebecca a question

OH MY FOD I GOT A QARFRAME AD

I did not see half as many advertisements for warframe around the time the old peace came out

[solid otter]

I should. Finish my sentence lmao

So. Albrecht might have dead children

[fiery oyster]

think I finally got through to the stubborn bugger

count on it, Roathe

[solid otter]

Oh i am. 99% sure that's the villain ending 😭

Its a ending you can get Loid to the family with though, so i suppose it doesn't matter

[fiery oyster]

w h a t

I thought this was the good ending?

I had to reset it cause of a damn bug.. I stg it better not be a villian ending

I googled it @solid otter - I have the good one, "he is no longer beholden to his past" is the good one

[solid otter]

Mm, I was under the belief that the chat wouldve been the villain one, i cant find another one with those words I dont think but I can check with my redeemed roathe

[fiery oyster]

it better not be a villian one, I stg lol

[hasty hatch]

this is what i got when i redeemed him

[true onyx]

By all Sol I am going to TURN THAT BALLASS INTO A NOGLE AND FEED HIM TO KALYMOS!

[grim totem]

where can you find this?

[solid otter]

This is kimulacrum

[grim totem]

ohhh idk about that

[past osprey]

how prepared should i be going into old peace? like a decent amp and a good frame good enough or like do i need to have builds ready to go?

[solid otter]

Nothing you need other than your standard warframe build for a small segment

You'll be using a borrowed set of things, excal prime being one of them

[past osprey]

oh ok ill get that done tonight, just wanted to make sure i was prepped. didnt know if it was like a new war situtation

[solid otter]

Nah, i think theyre avoiding that whole deal, for good reason

[shell hazel]

so, I'm curious where the lore's gonna go
'cause, the Old Peace?
Good
Very, very good
But also extremely sad.
Like, "too good, I never want to play it again."
But we have to grind it, and that hurts.
So... something light, I hope?

[obtuse gyro]

something light? The update coming in like 3-4 days is a horror themed one lol

[shell hazel]

oh, Folie Inks, I forgot
... well, light horror can be a thing

https://tenor.com/view/army-of-darkness-evil-dead-ash-groovy-gif-25791428

[obtuse gyro]

well given what we've seen of the map, it sure has a lack of lighting

[shell hazel]

well, to badly paraphrase Mel Brooks-
"Tragedy is if a little old lady slips and breaks her leg.
Comedy is if she falls down a manhole and dies."

Old Peace was dark, not "dark."
More blood, less genocide, would be nice.

[solid otter]

Well, we have sad painter clown horror now

A nice break.

[shell hazel]

more Spirit Halloween, less Grave of the Fireflies
DE plz

More seriously- from a narrative speculation standpoint-
why are they making Ballas more hateable after we already killed him?
unless they bring him back as spooky skelly Ballas?
Roathe tries to make Bally more sympathetic, which I guess implies we're fighting Nitokh at some point
but still, dang

[hearty pendant]

-# because some people are still defending him /s

[shell hazel]

"The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones"- Billy Shakes

[shadow forum]

Bruh so ballas wanted to open a portal to the tau to fight the nitokh.

[solid otter]

Take away that /s you know full well people seriously defend him 😭 /lh

[shadow forum]

well he did manage to turn orokin system upside down.