spoiler-chat

[solid otter]

Did loid always say necraloid during his first meeting?

That line sounded. Bizarre for no reason

No oh my god he did

Nevermind im just normal

NO. NO WHAT

Im going through it but

I can no longer bully Loid to places

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[solid otter]

This is so sad

We now exist in a world where we can no longer push loid into things

[cerulean kiln]

You can still bully Loid for crashing out

[solid otter]

Yeah but now I can't shove him to a place hes not supposed to be

[thick iron]

buddy mirage is like 85p and sevagoth is like 25p

what are we doing in trade chat dawg

[cerulean kiln]

It’s trade chat what did you expect?

[solid otter]

Woof. Thats bad.

[solid otter]

Yeah but its never that bad

[hearty pendant]

you can usually halve the trade chat price to get the market price but that sev is insane

[solid otter]

Mirage is only that expensive cus shes vaulted, right?

[hearty pendant]

vaulted + useful, yeah

[cerulean kiln]

Trade chat has always been bad for actual price

[thick iron]

420% upsell on sevagoth is insane

[floral hawk]

tell lil buddy this isnt 2018 anymore 😭

[solid otter]

Wonder how bad it is for those who try to sell r5 arcane energize for thousands of plat lol

[thick iron]

LMFAO

[solid otter]

Like damn bro are you starving

[floral hawk]

really enjoy Smokefingers' human head btw

actually really well designed?

like not uncanny at all, probably bc of the moustache just fitting in really well

[solid otter]

Have you seen nightcap's? Delicious looking man

[floral hawk]

i have not but i'll get to it 😭

[solid otter]

He kinda looks like captain price from cod lmao

[floral hawk]

smokefinger's a certified old chap, i need to see him more in places

eudico falls into the middle of the improvement curve where it ever so slightly looks a bit off?

[floral hawk]

its the moustache, just need a beanie

[solid otter]

Mm, ticker is unfortunately a little boinked, but genuinely she's just so awesome that she transcends physical attractiveness

[floral hawk]

leaps and bounds from cetus -> fortuna -> necralisk -> sanctum, protos

[river musk]

it's usually worse

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958787992481320961/1359623142753964072/image-1132.png?ex=69ac87b9&is=69ab3639&hm=9a141e4990dc5d9fe5743c0b3bb8e3b31943cdfde744eebccce59c6b10be6fe5&

most +repped account on WFM btw

[floral hawk]

wtf?

[solid otter]

Oh. That looks like dirty plat.

[floral hawk]

oh that's a rabbit hole https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1l4x7nx/can_anyone_explain_these_accounts_to_me/

[solid otter]

Weird.

[balmy storm]

Reminds me of the drama with rivens years ago
Idr any specific details unfortunately other than rivens were involved tho lol

[thick jolt]

Riven mafia?

[balmy storm]

Yeah that!

That was what
2019?

[solid otter]

I get too suspicious of any large amounts of plat being passed around

Reeks of dirty plat.

[thick jolt]

No clue i just watched from the sidelines since i never really traded

[balmy storm]

Same lol

[lofty girder]

Frankly im waiting for some business student's paper on warframe's player economy, cause its a fascinating form of large scale bartering

[vale sable]

Dirty play is hacked in ?

Plat

[real niche]

Most black Plat is just someone doing a chargeback on a credit/debit card

[thick iron]

this works on mesas regulators i assume right?

[lofty girder]

Both the bonus and the condition

[amber terrace]

I remember someone saying that Tauron strikes usually charge in the same amount of focus orbs, regardless of charge time buffs. Does this also apply to lenses on weapons? Do I strictly need to have lenses on all of the gear that can accept lenses to have a good Tauron charge time?

[deft mist]

No

Mines kinda haphazardly put on and i use vazarin mostly and i have a lot of different ones on However i do recommend do put your main schools lens on your frame

Ive found that out

I might be wrong though

[hearty pendant]

lenses on gear stack, more lenses = less charge time
type and school of lens does not matter, they just need to be there
that being said, in missions where they're worth using, i usually have a reasonable charge rate with only 2 or 3 lenses equipped

[amber terrace]

I mean yeah, that tracks, the question I should have worded better is whether or not it takes the same amount of focus orb pickups between no lenses and optimal lenses

[hearty pendant]

not sure on that part
i'd imagine it can cut quite a few off? but it depends on how many you're killing both with and without the focus orb buff

[amber terrace]

but it depends on how many you’re killing…
I play Hildryn in 2026 with a minmaxed strength build combined with a range multiplicative(3m • (1 + 44%) • (1 + 45%)) enervate crit machine balefire for my aegis gale

[restive rover]

is The Hex Quest replayable after completing The Old Peace quest? have a feeling it definitely is but i wanted to double check

[solid otter]

Yeah it is

[restive rover]

thank you! 😃

[balmy storm]

It doesn’t matter which focus lens it is

[deft mist]

Okay thanks

[floral hawk]

secret second replay on R4ing and building chemistry w the hex

[solid otter]

Ive replayed the base quest too tbh

Ive replayed a lot of them

None as much as whispers though

[balmy storm]

I imagine you keep repeating the first part on loop

[solid otter]

I have a recording for that, I play the whole quest usually. Mostly to see if I can. Like. trigger loid to doublejump

[balmy storm]

LOL

[solid otter]

Go my Loid

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

This but loid

[glass grove]

Is Albert blue or not? Lighting kinda makea it hard to tell.

[solid otter]

He is. This weird shade of green.

And its Albrecht 😭

[glass grove]

The good Loid?

[solid otter]

The blonde loid

[glass grove]

I know, I just call him Albert because it's funny

[solid otter]

Necraloid is just a copy of him. Just. A tad bit lobotomised

[glass grove]

There is none. His hair is gray.

[median edge]

Al-recht 🤢

[solid otter]

He looks so very pale against Loid's skin. He was also genuinely blue once too

[solid otter]

Nup. He is blonde! The lighting just nukes it

He has grey hair too, but he is predominantly blonde

[glass grove]

Speaking of which, why is human Loid not blue?

[solid otter]

Because hes not an orokin

Hes an Archimedian assistant

[glass grove]

Necraloid is better. A truer gentleman.

[glass grove]

Ah

[solid otter]

Loid gets nicer, he is just. Going through it rn

[solid otter]

He's also Albrecht's lover so. Thats something you should know

[glass grove]

Yeah, I knew that part.

[solid otter]

Some folk don't, that's all

Some folk. Somehow manage to get the. "Loid is Albrecht's son" interpretation

[glass grove]

Either way, Necraloid is the only normal and reasonable one in Deimos.

[solid otter]

Id argue bird 3 is

Necraloid is far from normal, he is currently fused to otak lol

[cold trellis]

Poor Otak

[glass grove]

Otak is a chill guy. Not normal, but not a jerk either.

He just likes mining

[glass grove]

But he's not normal.

[solid otter]

Hes pretty normal

[glass grove]

Counterargument: I don't like the Cavia (except maybe Tagfer)

[floral hawk]

fibbs is nice and funny

[solid otter]

Fib calls me a biped and I want to pour salt into his tank for it.

[median edge]

I like the Cavia personally but I can see why people would find them annoying. They just make me very sad.

[glass grove]

He also indirectly calls you stupid in many different ways

Tagfer makes me sad. Bird is kinda annoying and too naive but at least he's nice.

[median edge]

Eh, Albert has kinda made their lives a living hell so I can see why they are so grumpy tho. Their other dad didn't even wake up until like a week ago LMFAO

[solid otter]

He's. Not naive. He's rather emotionally intelligent actually

[glass grove]

He's dumb in every other way, then

[severe venture]

Ballas a bum

[solid otter]

No, not really

He also helps with experiments

[median edge]

Trueeee lmfao

[solid otter]

He is just. More positive than others

[glass grove]

Wait, so the Cavia have a pessimist, an optimist, and a realist

[solid otter]

Yup

[glass grove]

Also, since the Void is nothing and therefore has no logic, does that mean thoughts create things in it?

[balmy storm]

Conceptual Embodiment

That’s what Duviri is
That’s what the Holdfasts are
Possibly what Wally is

It’s specifically emotions and concepts interacting with the void

For example the incarnons are made from Cav dreaming up upgrades basically

There’s no real way to control it in the same way you can’t really control how you feel or what’s in your head

[glass grove]

Isn't Wally confirmed to be something that manifested because Albretch was the first to find the Void?

[balmy storm]

That isn’t hard confirmed but more so largely hinted at

Sythel talks about it

[glass grove]

Who?

[balmy storm]

Sythel is one of the courtiers in Duviri, she embodies fear

If it’s not her spiral you can find her in a boarded up house yappin away about stuff, I’ll get her lines

[median edge]

Wow he has just the worst vibes I guess 😞

[balmy storm]

https://www.orokinarchives.com/dialogue-sythel/

"The first scholar looked into the Void and he feared it. And his fear took shape. Do you understand? That's how all this started!"

[glass grove]

Ah, thanks

[faint quiver]

So cool

[floral hawk]

the twin peaks/control (2019) style name cards(?) are so sick still

[storm anvil]

is there a way i can fix things

[obtuse gyro]

who is this

[storm anvil]

arthur

i may have accidently confessed to him while dating amir...

[solid otter]

How does one do that 😭

[storm anvil]

the dialogue option came up and i got a bit excited

[runic latch]

You can use the Digital Grimoire to reset your conversation history with a group (The Hex, The Roundtable, or The Devil's Triad).

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Kinemantik_Instant_Messenger#Digital_Grimoire_(Starting_Over)

[storm anvil]

oo

[solid otter]

Tldr no you cannot fix it unless you reset the whole hex.

[runic latch]

Unfortunately, it resets the whole group, but it IS an option.

[storm anvil]

reset all the way to 0 chemistry?

[floral hawk]

yea

[storm anvil]

i also saw that quincy has a dialogue and can pair drifter w someone would it work for my situation or nah

[tight pagoda]

He can give tips on how to approach one of the Hex and I think he gives chemistry in the background if I'm not mistaken

[storm anvil]

ohh ok so i lowkey fully gotta wipe god damn

[hearty pendant]

not sure about background chemistry but he'll give tips and can get your chosen partner to give you a chance to apologize if you mess up

[tight pagoda]

I gotta read the past few messages one moment

[storm anvil]

oo ok salvagable then

[tight pagoda]

Dang

Yeah potentially if you get the chat with Quincy

But it's an earlier chat from memory

[hearty pendant]

maybe
if you chose arthur in that first chat, q might be able to get him to talk to you again

but you have to roll that chat as well

[storm anvil]

i kinda didnt bother talking to anyone in the hex apart from arthur and amir so i might not have that chat w quincy done yet

i saw it happens after him wanting to hate the drifter and i had that chat just now so hopefully i got it on the next one

[solid otter]

Thats. A bad idea

[storm anvil]

wait y?

[solid otter]

Talking to exclusively only one hex member

Or two, either or

You miss. A lot

Not just information either

[storm anvil]

well yea probs but i wanted to speedrun dating lol

i just did a fat fumble so ill try my luck w the quincy thing and if that fails imma wipe and restart

also i did talk to the others just not a lot

i mainly prioritised those 2

[floral hawk]

you have to be at least liked ny everyone for the Finale to happen iirc

[tight pagoda]

I mean you should at least try to be Liked

[storm anvil]

yea i am

[tight pagoda]

Otherwise you're locking yourself out of content

[solid otter]

Oh yeah forgot that one

[storm anvil]

i already redid the 1999 ending

if thats what ur talking abt

[tight pagoda]

Yep

[storm anvil]

anyway either way im probs gonna need to wipe my chemistry if quincy cant get us together lol

[tight pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/duviri-warframe-dominus-thrax-begin-again-spiral-gif-17147585142359123507

[storm anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/yareli-warframe-twerk-tennocon-throwing-it-back-gif-14342636548821049395

[solid otter]

Remember how folk got pissed at her for winning against the like. Necramech?

[tight pagoda]

#Voidrigged was a plague on cosplaying tbh

[solid otter]

People dont seem to comprehend how most cosplay contests work

Big foam mech must win!!!

[floral hawk]

yeah, the voidrig should've thrown ass

[hearty pendant]

the voidrig was cool but incredibly unweildy, and that would impact its scoring imo

[tight pagoda]

This year I remember seeing minor controversy about John Prodman not getting top 3

When really all there was worthy of him being awarded was the VR helmet

Which was definitely cool

But not what they were judging

And he still won an award I think

[solid otter]

Theres arguably more skill in making a warframe cosplay than a necramech foam suit yk

[floral hawk]

they interviewed Octavia after her stint in a 5 hour afk survival

[tight pagoda]

Pretty sure it was cardboard

[floral hawk]

so nice of the grineer to wait

[solid otter]

Love that they have a cosplay maker as a judge tho
-# I think

[hearty pendant]

-# why does that umbra look like he's about to pull an 'absolute cinema'

[tight pagoda]

I didn't take enough photos of the contest tbh

[solid otter]

Thats incredibly important when it comes to cosplay comps with a craftsmanship category

[tight pagoda]

Yes, Plexi Cosplay (Rusalka) and her husband (who did Albrecht that year) are both judges

[solid otter]

TAHHHH NECI

YAAH THEY ALSO DID THE ALBRECHT N LOID ONE

Couple goals

HOLD ON I HAVE

PHOTO. IM. NORMAL ABOUT

[tight pagoda]

I think they also had another judge, can't remember their name but I'm pretty sure they are who made the Krubie prop we saw at TennoVIP

[solid otter]

[floral hawk]

jesus that Rusalka is WELL made

[solid otter]

YEAH

Hold on the only one of the loid one i had on hand is

[solid otter]

Woae.......

LOOK AT THE TEXTUTE OF THE JACKEY

Im. I need to sit down.

[solid otter]

Awh someone gotta push his hair back why is it in the front/j

[tight pagoda]

Loid with tossled hair 🤤

[solid otter]

Im sure Albrecht felt the same way

AGTGRGH THEYRE SO COOL

LOOK

My only issue would be the wig being a bit too crimped

[solid otter]

LOOK AT HER GO

I should draw her

I should draw nihil

[night grail]

Bird 3 slander 💔

[night grail]

Im pretty sure she's the one who will always appear regardless of spiral. Which makes sense because her thing is being afraid she wouldnt leave her house?

[solid otter]

Nah she disappears iirc

[hearty pendant]

afaik she's only not there during fear spiral
which is when the vagabond's standing behind her house

[obtuse gyro]

and like, we know where she is during fear

[solid otter]

The devious orowyrm:

[thick iron]

EDA stinks

i assume constricted reduces hildryns shields?

[umbral yoke]

No

Hildryn is immune to most eta modifiers by not having energy

[thick iron]

WAIT THAT'S LIT

[deft mist]

Lavos might be to

I use him a lot

[umbral yoke]

yeah but hildryn got an exalted so she can ignore having bad weapons too

[deft mist]

True

Im trying to get weapon so i can stop using natahruk

[azure solar]

which one?

[balmy storm]

Attack helicopter :]

[lofty girder]

I mean technically lavos can also nuke, though not as constantly

[umbral yoke]

Not as well on ETA level

[deft mist]

Not sure i need to kill my lich cause hes annoying me

[azure solar]

what weapon they got?

[deft mist]

I forgot i know that it has poison on it

[azure solar]

you can check at any time in your pause menu

[lofty girder]

Its incredibly high scaling heat procs, its no gauss sunder but its close

[umbral yoke]

What's the build for that

[lofty girder]

The damage for his 4 scales with the number of status effects on target

[umbral yoke]

Hmmmmmm

[lofty girder]

Plus archon vitality to double the proc...

[umbral yoke]

I can see how that can kill single target with heat inherit priming but not how a nuke build alone would work

ETA scenario, 3 bad weapons

[lofty girder]

Using an aoe primer like an epitaph or a companion

Hound, diriga, panzer, those are archimedia agnostic

[umbral yoke]

I guess there's no bane mod for eta

So it would only be roar on your companion

[zenith jacinth]

build issue

[umbral yoke]

for sure, I wanna know the build that can

[zenith jacinth]

mine :)

well, probably. I never get to use him in ETA

[umbral yoke]

I dont mean that as in not believing but as curiosity

I actually want to know the build

[zenith jacinth]

my lavos can kinda nuke anything with the right casting order, but I'm not in game rn

[fringe pond]

This man has the warframe equivalent to Condition Overload

[deft mist]

Seriously i didn't know

[deft mist]

I perfer using viral or corrosive on the abilitys

[zenith jacinth]

I roughly adjust it to match faction weaknesses, but I also like to use blast

[balmy storm]

Blast + void :]

[sharp junco]

im starting to think eleanor is the best to romance in the hex

for a very very very good reason

[thorny barn]

Kim chats were a disaster for this game

[solid otter]

Eh

I disagree

[deft mist]

Mixed feelings for me

I wish they had fleshed out the triad more

[solid otter]

Well. For the hex at least. The triad mucking SUCKED lmao

[sharp junco]

they just need to make a special cutscene now

[solid otter]

You do kiss her :)

[sharp junco]

not just that

[deft mist]

I love the capitol yes

[solid otter]

... eh I cant be too upset

[sharp junco]

what im now realising and i think is funny is that im messaging one woman with another woman as my pfp

[solid otter]

Because this is funny as shit

Because, despite the knowledge of Euleria's existence

I cannot comprehend it myself

[zenith jacinth]

no.

[sharp junco]

wym "no"

[deft mist]

N o no

Is spanish no

[deft mist]

I remember laughing at that

[craggy pollen]

are all steps of Inaros quest Kill rare enemy? if soo ngl Im kinda cooked 6 missions in row and not one brood on separate infested nodes. idk why they suddenly want to pretend not to exist just cause I have the urn equiped.

[thick iron]

read somewhere that they're buffing health tanking? anyone know what specifically they are doing?

[obtuse gyro]

they said they have plans for it, but havent shared specifics. I expect it to be a 2026 thing tho, so we have 3/4 of the year left for them to show it

[bleak forge]

Did u guys name stalkers kid Sirius or Onion?

[obtuse gyro]

Sirius

[thick iron]

whichever the green one is

[bleak forge]

Same
I still call the baby onion though
Weird to let us name it after a vegetable but I guess that's just DE

[obtuse gyro]

Orion who?

[deft mist]

Orion not onion

[heavy pilot]

He got to throw it down

[solid otter]

Well yeah he had a daughter but can you comprehend him doing it 😭

[glass grove]

What is it with the Protoframes and being so horny-

[solid otter]

Only real way they can drag new players/hj

[glass grove]

Sirius because it was Jade's choice

[glass grove]

Ironically I wouldn't be so hesitant to reach 1999 if they acted normal.

[solid otter]

Tbvf, they only get like that if you flirt. Other than Roathe.

Which makes him even worse to me

[glass grove]

Hard to comprehend the idea that the guy who kinda looks like Palpatine produced a child at some point.

[glass grove]

What does Roathe do

[glass grove]

Also, are they that desperate?😭

[solid otter]

Like he probably did it with Loid too but even then I cant understand it. Bluebrecht or whitebrecht

[glass grove]

Hard to comprehend Albert doing anything at all.

[solid otter]

Ehh, asks you. Needlessly sexual shit about your current partner and sees no issue with asking such shit and. That. Makes me uncomfortable

[glass grove]

Least unhinged Orokin:

You know, Ballas would never ask such intimate questions.

[solid otter]

Yeah, and thats concerning

Hell even Albrecht wouldnt. Hed at least respect folk like that

Roathe is just. Gross.

[Warning !! Opinion!!!]

[glass grove]

Kinda expected from the Devil Protoframe

Why does the Man in the Wall kinda look like Palpatine?

[glass grove]

Dude using the Orokin strategy of gaslighting you into doing what he wants instead of just asking you.

[solid otter]

Hed probably just ask and Hed get it

Albrecht learned he can just do that

[deft mist]

The devil ya know?

[solid otter]

Shockingly, to noone, the devil is worse than Albrecht

[deft mist]

I mean better the devil ya know better then the devil ya dont and yes i agree he is a little to interested in that

[solid otter]

Id rather be in a room alone with Albrecht over Roathe.

[steep totem]

...with or without syringes of Helminth strain?

[glass grove]

With, you get cool powers
Without, you get a (probably) nice chat
So it's a win either way

[floral rune]

Wild take 😭

You’re just asking for more trouble

Choose neither

[uncut solar]

"both"

[craggy pollen]

ngl having koumie use Lizzie for the shawzin emote is peak. she really fits it well. figured say that here since Flare stuff is very spoilery. ya know?

[solid otter]

Im just a bit too old for a traditional yuvan but that doesn't mean im safe. Id rather be in a room with a man who doesn't want to do it than a man who does

[floral rune]

😭

[solid otter]

ITS NOT A CRAZY THING TO SAY

If i had a choice of anyone, id be with Loid and I'll be brushing his hair

Practising my plait skills......

[hearty pendant]

albrecht's prolly just going to leave
roathe might straight up kill you

[solid otter]

At worst a current Albrecht would do is stare at me funny

Honestly Albrecht would be in danger, not me

[solid otter]

You get me

Roathe might kill me if I call him stupid and arrogant

Even if he said shit first

[solid otter]

Because despite what it seems, ive made threats to end that man's life in horrible ways

Personal favourite is. Slaughtering like a cow and or pig amd gutting him

[craggy pollen]

Albrecht got alot to answer for, even if he does succeed in every way. EVERYONE gonna want to end that man.

[solid otter]

I want him to live, though

If only for him to actually face the consequences of what he did

[craggy pollen]

Aye to make sure everyone gets their closure. I respect it.

[solid otter]

And unfortunately for that. He needs to live.

And continue to live. Shit doesnt just go away now that theyve hit him

[balmy storm]

You saying that’s a wild take is the wild take

[solid otter]

I can reiterate why being in a room with Albrecht is far safer than to be in one with Roathe

[uncut solar]

What if both of them were here

[balmy storm]

Get the popcorn

[solid otter]

They'd murder each other

Id be rooting for Albrecht though

Because if Roathe won, Loid wouldn't be too far behind with his Ekhein

[balmy storm]

Idc who wins, but if Roathe does he’s getting locked up

[solid otter]

Id let Loid at him

I need to see this man go feral

[uncut solar]

Which gun is he using, again?

Sybaris?

[solid otter]

Zylok prime, but i think if we hand him the incarnon

[uncut solar]

I keep confusing zylok and sybaris

[solid otter]

He has more than a chance

[uncut solar]

They look so similar

[solid otter]

I also do just think Loid would muck roathe up regardless

That man held no hesitation to fight the fragmented one

[hearty pendant]

that really is the same gun lmfao

[solid otter]

....whoa.

DE please what the shit is that

[uncut solar]

One is primary, another is secondary

[hearty pendant]

i think the primes are pretty different, at least?
idr how sybaris prime looks

[uncut solar]

Yeah

One is more personalized, another is very generic prime gold

[hearty pendant]

similar motifs but distinct enough, yeah

[uncut solar]

Normal versions are just

The same weapon stretched

[solid otter]

And Albrecht got a pissy little lex prime

Wonder if thats signalling something

[uncut solar]

What if Loid stretches his Zylok into Sybaris

[hearty pendant]

new incarnon upgrade for zylok

[uncut solar]

Don't slander Lex Prime

[solid otter]

Oh, no its great

[uncut solar]

It's a weapon of pure destructive power

[solid otter]

Just. Tiny.

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/хуёк-gif-21701625

[solid otter]

Ah loid likes it! Size doesnt matter- gets mucking shot

[uncut solar]

It's not the size of your gun, it's how you use it

[zenith jacinth]

it ain't

[solid otter]

A joke, scrap

[zenith jacinth]

I know

[uncut solar]

Then don't ruin the joke

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[deft mist]

Can i say one of my.favorites slowly pulling him apart i thought about it after reading how excruciating the protoframe transformation was the hex

And how lettie said the worst part was hearing aois screams

[solid otter]

Mm. Did you know that you can vitrify an organ? Turn it to a crystalline structure and preserve it? But did you ever wonder if the crystals get into the bloodstream and how it would feel?

That's one i enjoy. Let the man feel fire in his arteries and capillaries.

... was that too much

[uncut solar]

It was ok

[deft mist]

Hoo

Ive honestly ive had.worse

Im not saying them though most of then were for ballas

[zenith jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-rohan-kishibe-i-refuse-gif-26066583

[zenith jacinth]

the best part is that the transformation still isn't done! it's just progressing VERY slowly

[deft mist]

Dont remind me i really hope they dont turn into full warframes

[zenith jacinth]

they do eventually

that's. already confirmed

[thick iron]

yeah i thought flare is proof that they eventually turn into full warframes

they just don't because they're currently in a timeloop yeah?

[zenith jacinth]

yep

[floral hawk]

seeing arthur turn to a real excalibur would be funny

go on boy turn to a generic warframe so inherently default that youre used as placeholder

[deft mist]

Oh well okay

[thick iron]

now i'm curious what temple prime is going to be

because the temple at the night of the naga drums is flare

[solid otter]

*themself
-# flare uses they/them

[thick iron]

i did forget about that, mb

[solid otter]

All good bro

[uncut solar]

Lizzie ate something gold and got primed

Flare too by an extension

[static crater]

?

Temple was never put into production I don’t think

[solid otter]

That doesn't exclude them from prime status

OHH

No actually, they were thete

Flare was the first temple

[static crater]

Ballas shelved temple because he really didn’t need a rabble rouser

Entrati just took a bunch of spares from his shelf

[solid otter]

Yes, and Albrecht unshelved that.

No clue how. Wet raccoon of a man probably stole it

[static crater]

Oh absolutely

That and he 100% had connections

[solid otter]

He was deemed insane by then

[static crater]

sure

[solid otter]

And. He faked his death

It would he hard to get anything if you're. Dead

[static crater]

but he was both working on his own strain of the helminth virus and had at minimum two frames custom made for him

possibly 3, dante has ties to the sanctum

[solid otter]

Im just saying the connections are liikely to have been done before his faking death situation

[static crater]

oh yeah no absolutely

[solid otter]

Qorvex is.

[static crater]

my point was entrati absolutely had closer ties with ballas than most

[static crater]

oraxia is too

[solid otter]

The entrati as a whole, I feel. Not just him

Grandmother knows far too many

[static crater]

grandmother is i think fully unaffected by the memory issues of her family. also mind you, shes vilcor's mother not [insert mothers name i forgor]

like remember; it was her who sabotaged the heart to draw us in

for the sole point of reuniting her family

[solid otter]

I will need to inform you, I do not mean to be aggressive with my periods. I just. Like typing like that

[static crater]

oh lol no worries

[solid otter]

Euleria? Gomaitru?

[static crater]

ye her lol

grandma is on the other side of the tree than albrecht

[solid otter]

We know Albrecht's ex-wife's name too. She. Wasn't particularly liked by him

[static crater]

lmao i wonder why

[solid otter]

It was an arranged marriage, which is. Kinda surprising

[static crater]

perhaps because he was gay

[solid otter]

The orokin doing that is weird

[solid otter]

YEAH EXACTLY

[static crater]

not really, theyre a giant nobilty class

[solid otter]

Loid acting as Euleria's father fr

[static crater]

its all politics all games

[solid otter]

Nah. Its odd for their. Culture

They generally dont believe in monogamy

[static crater]

ah

[solid otter]

Let alone forcing it

Oh, and Vilcor has another name too

[static crater]

i mean you can still marry and not believe in monogomy

[solid otter]

His. Maiden name???

[static crater]

itd be to unite houses

[solid otter]

House name??

[static crater]

house prolly

[solid otter]

Its ||Petros Vorten||

He is probably related to the vortengeist labs

[static crater]

he was a war general before joining the entrati family

[solid otter]

Nah, not a general. He was a pilot

Railjack pilot

[static crater]

i mean any orokin on thee field is in a leadership position

[uncut solar]

In. This. Economy?

[solid otter]

Unfortunately shit be a typing quirk atp. Send help. Please god

[static crater]

but to my original point

theres definitely primes that just dont fit lorewise, like nidus or revenant, and to an extend id even say protea

[solid otter]

Nah

[static crater]

so temple prime would probably be just that

[solid otter]

You gotta remember the trailers arent about the prime

[uncut solar]

Oh no, typing quirks

[static crater]

wait was there a temple prime trailer??

[uncut solar]

No

[solid otter]

Nah, not yet lol

They came out a year ago, but what I mean is

[static crater]

then what trailer im confused

[uncut solar]

Temple Prime trailer and it's just a music video

[static crater]

lol

[solid otter]

The prime trailers do not refer to the prime warframe

They use the singular name

"Mirage" "Yareli"

[static crater]

mmm

[solid otter]

Which iirc is abnormal

[static crater]

i love the concept of yareli in lore

because i can only imagine she came about as like

ballas, hitting blunt "yeah just like... make a weird idol girl. put her on a skateboard, screw it."

[solid otter]

I love how screwed up it is. Theres occasionally ballas defenders and I just love to bring up that he wanted to wear a little girl's skin

[static crater]

bro who defends ballas

[solid otter]

Theres ballas defenders, wally defenders

[solid otter]

Folk defend the orokin as a whole.

Its. Tiresome.

[uncut solar]

Ballas defenders are either rich people or people with a thing for authoritative villains

[static crater]

bro is such an incel he destroyed a society

orokin defenders and ballas defenders are two different things

[solid otter]

This goes for Roathe too tbh

[uncut solar]

Orokin

Typical

[static crater]

i find the orokin fascinating

[solid otter]

Ehh

They're not. Going on about how they're. Not all bad

They're justifying yuvans

[uncut solar]

They kinda go hand in hand. Not a lot of people who defend ballas even acknowledge the incel part

We can now point and laugh and go

"this is what Roathe also said as projection"

[solid otter]

Roathe does project a lot

But christ on a stick

[uncut solar]

I thought it's at least 2 sticks

[solid otter]

His change doesnt mean shit to me if he doesn't change in the way it needs to

No roathe. You shouldn't be calling Vor a slur even if we don't like him

[static crater]

He calls vor a slur lol?

[solid otter]

Yeah randomly pulls out the vatrat during descendia

[uncut solar]

What's the slur again?

Oh, that

I can't believe you said it Thomas

[static crater]

Lmao

[uncut solar]

How could you

[solid otter]

Im a grineer myself shush

[uncut solar]

Oh sorry I didn't know

[solid otter]

I am multiple things

[uncut solar]

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

[static crater]

Idk the orokin fascinate me because they’re genuinely one of the strongest fictional space empires if you think about it

Yet they fell solely because one dude got mad because his wife liked their kids more than him

[solid otter]

I can name another that's probably stronger/j

Do not get me onto doom its horrid

[static crater]

Like to put into perspective I’m pretty sure the orokin scale above The Imperium of Man

[uncut solar]

Turns out when an empire that's based entirely on giving the power to a couple of assholes is easy to mess up if even a single one goes rogue, because they all have unrestricted power

[static crater]

It’s more ballas was a bottleneck to that power

They were getting railed by the sentients until his warframes

[uncut solar]

Pretty sure he couldn't stop them from beaming Margulis

[static crater]

And he alone decided to sell the Warframe bps to hunhow

[static crater]

No yeah that’s why he decided I’m going to collapse my society

[uncut solar]

His plan with warframes worked because he had the power just like them

[static crater]

Power like who

[uncut solar]

The rest of the seven?

[static crater]

The seven?

Oh ok I thought you meant the Tenno for a sec lol

[uncut solar]

My point was that if you give a bunch of assholes unrestricted power then even one going rogue has a chance to use said unrestricted power to have chokehold on others

Because duh, they're all gods

[static crater]

Oh yeah sure

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link

And as much of a genius as he was bro folded for mommy

[uncut solar]

Talking like this is not a common thing

[static crater]

Absolutely not lol

He did not love

He lusted

[uncut solar]

Oh right

Lust, were talking about lust

[static crater]

He wanted control

Which is why when a literal skinwalker version of her came through he immediately brainwashed her properly

[uncut solar]

Yeah

[static crater]

It didn’t matter to him it wasn’t actually her

[uncut solar]

Yeah yeah yeah, you're right, it was a poor choice of words on my side

You have the right to throw a brick at me

[static crater]

kestrel to the side of your head

I will say

I deeply enjoy hearing roathes stories

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/ezzerland-xwitha-itsjerryandharry-ezzerland-gaming-cat-gif-5170144865885327599

[static crater]

About how the orokin were bored out of their minds until the old war

Upon which they immediately hit the gamer lean

Also wait do people have problems with Wally

[uncut solar]

I only saw "we must help Wally because I personally like power and want to kill people without consequences"

"and not having that ability restricts my roleplay choices"

[static crater]

Free my boy Wally

Bro did literally nothing wrong

He got his fingers stuck in the door

[uncut solar]

He slammed his fingers in the car door

[static crater]

Bro is a 4th dimensional entity forced to abide by our laws of time because some old dude broke into his house

[azure solar]

the tenno are 6 not 7... oh god 67 is in warfraME TECHNICALLY

[zenith jacinth]

The tenno aren't 6 what are you talking about

[azure solar]

not 6yo but 6 tenno to 7 orokin overlords

you have the 4 playable operator voices

then the the 2 outliers we know of being drifter and rell

[undone lodge]

There’s also the 2 Zariman Tenno from the flashback

And those guys from the Old Peace CYOA

[static crater]

There has to be more than just that handful right?

I assumed there was like

Minimum 50 of them

[undone lodge]

Yeah but this is just talking about named ones

[static crater]

Ah ok

We love Rell

[undone lodge]

Like, actual specific characters that exist to an extent

[static crater]

God bless our autistic savior

[thick jolt]

That is a severely low minimum for tipping an interstellar war

[azure solar]

theres technically an infinate amount

[zenith jacinth]

There's a few thousand tenno based on the zariman ARG

[real niche]

Where's it have any mention of that?

[deft mist]

Well considering how big the zariman is

Id say its about the size of id say a large ciry probably could hold the same.amount of people

[soft pumice]

this maan is so hard to work with i hope it will be worth it

[cerulean kiln]

It's got an annoying scale making it too hard to even try determining that

[real niche]

There's too many confounding things here to estimate a population. The sheer size of it, the lack of any real overview of its build, the fact it's a worker-colony ship, it being a creation from a civilization that spans the entire solar system and not just Earth...

There were like, what, 30 or so seats in the one classroom? Multiply that by 500 or by 5000 and both sound like "reasonable" estimates for the number of Tenno, since the scale is simply "A hell of a lot less bodies than either the Grineer or Corpus have"

[thick iron]

for some reason it never occurred to me that the orokin would have alcohol

obviously i know the hex are serious drinkers i just never could remember any like, present day talk about drinking

[azure solar]

||it being stuck halfway in the void||

[balmy storm]

That’s less of an issue tbh, we know what the ship looks like

[zenith jacinth]

on those voluntold-draft letters that ppl got irl iirc

[real niche]

People were drafted?!

[zenith jacinth]

to the zariman

it wasn't a voluntary thing

[real niche]

Yeah I know that, just didn't think people were sent something from it

[zenith jacinth]

I remembered it having a blacked out line instead of the redacted text... oh well

[thick jolt]

It did yeah

It was probably changed after we started trying to count how many characters could be in the blacked out line

To try and get a range for the zariman crew numbers

[zenith jacinth]

[thick jolt]

The zariman arg had many .... interesting events

[glass grove]

So Duviri is in the Zariman?

[real niche]

It's connected to it, not inside it

[glass grove]

Then where is it?

[undone lodge]

It’s basically a pocket dimension in the Void

[real niche]

In the Void, which was talked about here and there in the quest that introduces Duviri itself

[balmy storm]

Komi…

[thick jolt]

the komi conspiracy was very funny

[balmy storm]

I was tangentially there and it was insane lol

[thick jolt]

i loved those few weeks

[obtuse gyro]

I was actually there and I still dont know what happened

[thick iron]

my operator (blue) or my drifter (pink), what do y'all think? i'm leaning drifter for the cape, but i'm also open to suggestions if anyone can find a good way to get the heurodis ephemera to look a little cleaner on my operator

[median edge]

This looks sick as fk so far tho

[tawny mulch]

Odd theory but do you think Nokko sacrificed himself to save Shroom dude? He hasnt been around but idk if hes been missing since then or after a bit. Usually the assumption is these frames are all dead over time- could be the sprodlings are the remains of nokko. Maybe its like harrow but nokko just expended himself i to the vallis using his minions like bodies to watch the area? Ramble ramble- but you thibk hes dead persay but sacrificee himself to revive our mushman by the beeg prince?

[obtuse gyro]

Personally thats the understanding I walked away with, that Nokko sacrificed himself for the dude

didnt bother to check if its correct, too busy crying

[thick jolt]

nokko is already quite a unique case to begin with considering one of nightcaps lines about nokko and his relation to the shrooms

[zenith jacinth]

nokko seems to not even be the original frame, there's some very odd black bits that don't fit into the rest of his look at all

[tawny mulch]

Oh if you saw the old comment post i made, hsd a weird dream thst was a hodge podge of warframe stuff but part of it was a high pitched ish talking nokko, like micheal jacksoney ( not mesnt rudely idk whst else to word it as ) and like anime uwu high pitched sprodling doing a mission. I thibk it was tou going through infested goop in caves or stuff deep in venus, and there was a small ish room as the hub you would turn items in to the sprodling for rewards, mostly bobbles like it was a treasure hunt game mode.

[thick jolt]

also on a side note
love this caption

[balmy storm]

LOL

[obtuse gyro]

All I know is that the majority were doing it wrong

and the answer was juran I guess??

[next imp]

I was talking to someone and they said the operator can do time loops like the drifter since they’re the same person. This is wrong right??

[solid otter]

What? Yeah that's wrong. Drifter can only really do timeloops when there's one established as well

[hearty pendant]

they share an origin, but are not the exact same person by this point

[lethal vortex]

Ya know, not once have i ever ||broken up with a protoframe, whenever i was gonna romance the next one i just reset things||

||However i think i'll stop resetting things since i am loved by Roathe|| and i gotta hope DE doesn't make more that are able to be ||romanced,|| otherwise that makes more ||protoframes for me to get with, one at a time||

[thick iron]

i hate this event with a burning passion

[median edge]

I refuse to do it lmfaooo I love fortuna and everything but nah

[solid otter]

Well. You can date one hex and one triad at once

[lethal vortex]

I already dated all of the hex members

[deft mist]

I forgot about that

[zenith jacinth]

buried debts is only worth doing with a coordinated full squad

[heavy flint]

Very late to the party but 100% blue

[lofty girder]

Idk where i heard it but iirc nokko was some frame that got subsumed by the undermine fungi

So Nokko isn't the sprodlings, but other way around

[zenith jacinth]

it's nothing solidly confirmed but it is implied

[lofty girder]

Much like how we'll probably never know what the pre eidolon revenant was

[zenith jacinth]

well we know he was an idiot

[lofty girder]

Conehead mfr but got no brain

Tbh it would be immensely funny if warden fell into the eidolon pool because he got siren called ala enthrall

[zenith jacinth]

he didn't fall in, he gave in to curiosity and a tentacle yoinked him

[lofty girder]

So siren call

[steady inlet]

Devils Triad End-of-KIM question:

||Did i manage to mess up the Loid reunion? I agreed to work with Roathe, convinced Lyon to help, but got Marie to agree that Albrect was a complex man. Cavia and the Infested Entrati rep is at rank 5, but i havent seen anything about triggering the event. Did i muck something up?||

[solid otter]

||Mm. Did loid message you? If not, you might need to wait for tomorrow||

[steady inlet]

||its been 2 daily resets. I worry I might have messed something up, or theres not a "hey go do this" message||

[solid otter]

.. check Marie's status real quick

[hearty pendant]

||there's getting all 3 to agree, a roathe "it's time." message, and a loid message.||
||if i had to guess, it's stuck on the second step. have you been getting other convos in the meantime?||

[solid otter]

||Because helping her realise that doesnt actually trigger her boolean to allow her to help||

||its a seperate convo||

[steady inlet]

||I think thats where im stuck at. I dont recall being given that option, and ive had all the Triad's convos finished for a couple weeks. ||

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[solid otter]

Cro you might be screwed 😭

Thats an "old" bug what 😭 thats one of the first they tried to fix

[steady inlet]

Theres alot of moving parts for that one thing

[solid otter]

Yeah, they decided to overcomplicate shit for some reason

[balmy storm]

I hate Roathe!!

[solid otter]

Same!!!!!!!!

[mild marten]

Does subsuming primes grant improved versions of the abilities?

[river musk]

you can't subsume primes

[mild marten]

Thanks

[cerulean kiln]

Primes use the same versions of the abilities

It's just higher health and shields etc

[uncut solar]

Extra stats and extra polarity

Most upgrades are negligible, some are Volt Prime

[thick iron]

volt prime deadass just has 2x the energy pool at base

[fiery oyster]

tbh I thought Ballas was just using Margulis

but apparently that might not be the case

[deft mist]

I think its like a henry the eighth thing he loved Catherine till she wasnt useful

[fiery oyster]

maybe

[deft mist]

Once marguiluis was questioning his decisions she wasnt useful

[fiery oyster]

but Margulis never had that thing, according to Roathe, Ballas loved Margulis and was shy, despite being one of the Seven and the most powerful one at that

it was the Tenno that had Ballas trumped

Margulis focused more on the Tenno than him

have you seen that full convo?

[deft mist]

I probably have somewhere

[fiery oyster]

like, theres parts I already knew but theres others that raises an eyebrow

[deft mist]

I probably did it i remember laughing that ballas.was shy

[fiery oyster]

yeah lol

but I guess love makes even a powerful man weak lol

[deft mist]

Or a.cruel man even crueller

[deft mist]

At least roathe admits he was a depraved lunatic

[fiery oyster]

yeah, that does make sense considering what the Orokin have done

[turbid saffron]

im sorry if this is the wrong channel, but i figured itd be okay because it has to do with 1999 content. can anyone explain the codas to me? this is what i see on the first screenshot, and these are the coda mods i have installed. am i doing it right?

i have NEVER done a coda hunt before, this is the first ive actually gotten

[steady inlet]

You're starting off right, yeah. You're gonna need to get more of the Anti-virus mods, because each coda is vulnerable to only 1. Once you know which one (trial and error), you swap the other 2 out for potency mods

You're gonna need to run the marked missions until the other members show up, down then and then stab with your parazon while you have anti-virus mods equipped to find the right one.
Find the right one, and keep running the missions until you fill the "disinfection" bar.
After that is filled, they will retreat to a specific node in Earth Proxima. Hop in a railjack, and finish them off for good.

[glass grove]

Who's the Pedro Pascal-looking guy in the intro cutscene of Duviri Paradox?

[cerulean kiln]

You

[thick iron]

yeah isn't that just the stock drifter? i remember i played through duviri a long time before i got to the new war and when he showed up i was genuinely so confused lmao because i remembered him from duviri

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah it's the default you get before you start customisation

It's Drifter equivalent of Mara

[thick iron]

i was so confused because my operator was female so i didn't know what connection drifter could possibly have until that dinner table convo

[glass grove]

Meanwhile my Drifter and Operator looking exactly the same:

[thick iron]

yeah i made that change after new war to make them the same

[cerulean kiln]

I've seen some people swap their genders and voice then laugh when they realise they're meant to look the exact same

[glass grove]

Operator when the one who claims to be an alternate version of them has a completely different race, gender, voice, hair color, face, and eye color:

[cerulean kiln]

[static crater]

mara?

[floral hawk]

ngl i thought they shoved in another hayden tenno reference into the game

[static crater]

john tenno

[cerulean kiln]

When they showed the original Duviri trailer they accidentally made the model look just like Hayden

[cerulean kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-trailer-cinematic-trailer-grineer-tenno-gif-23972872

This

[static crater]

Oh is that like the canon Tenno name

[cerulean kiln]

It’s the code name for us

[static crater]

Yeah

Mara Lohk baybee

[cerulean kiln]

We don’t have a canon name so far because it’d run into gender issues if it isn’t a name both genders use

[static crater]

Kiddo

My favorite Warframe characters Kiddo and Marty mcflea

[cerulean kiln]

Getting called Marty got annoying after a while ngl

[static crater]

That’s fair

Now they call us lover

[median edge]

I actually wish they still called us Marty, it's such a fun reference imo. Much cooler than "future" lol

[thick jolt]

Not cannon but the name the devs use when doing script reads in their meetings

[static crater]

I see

[shadow forum]

What hapenned to a this character,after she put a flower near 3 warframes.

[zenith jacinth]

never actually existed

it's a representation of our tenno waking up the frames

[shadow forum]

oh

[eternal flume]

iirc it was actually a miscommunication between de and the studio that did that

[balmy storm]

Pedro

[azure solar]

trans

[balmy storm]

Gender ain’t real

[ember wigeon]

My operator/drifter is trans lol

[glass grove]

Explain the race, then

[azure solar]

...um the void got in your dna?

[balmy storm]

You could explain it as the refacia kit but that’s more so for the Orokin tones which
Aren’t tied to race and are cosmetic

[undone lodge]

reracia kits

[willow jay]

I just realised that Warframes are at least somewhat on-par with Viltrumites from Invincible. During The New War your Operator/Drifter will take damage when on Praghasa near the sun, but your Warframe will not. Obviously Praghasa is shielding them a bit, or else you would instantly burn up (or the Tenno is just that durable), but the Warframe is still more durable.

To the original point, Viltrumites are still damaged by the sun's surface.

[chilly pine]

you know, now that you mention it they do seem kinda on par with one another

[willow jay]

Unless a Viltrumite figures out the Warframe's small truck weakness...

[balmy storm]

Infest a viltrumite

Call the frame
Invincible

[willow jay]

Are you sure?

lol, you don't even need to use the Ostron Balloon during The New War. You can just Void-Sling all the way up.

[shadow forum]

Oh that explains everything. Thanks

[thick jolt]

nah that name is cursed by the monkey's paw

[zenith jacinth]

make another nautical frame, call it titanic

[valid pine]

Why is Albrecht a mean person?

[zenith jacinth]

fear

[solid otter]

Fear, Trauma.

Pragmatism.

[robust frost]

Cause he hurts animals....

[valid pine]

Can we de ball him like we did to Ballsack?

[steady inlet]

Just leave him for the Cavia. I'm trying to de-wall Wally

[willow jay]

Fishies!

I should probably be stopping Ballas...

[obtuse gyro]

remind me again, how hot is it over there?

[willow jay]

5,500°C

[obtuse gyro]

well, I can safely say that warframes are 10000% affected by temperatures higher than that at the very least

[balmy storm]

What was the temperature of the things Alad used in that one cutscene?

[floral hawk]

the cut up warframes scene?

the dead excal with mordred helm on?

[obtuse gyro]

no idea, but parvos used an 80 mega therm bomb on warframes before

[warm anvil]

its probably just for gameplay reasons so you can't die during that sequence and screw anything up

[cerulean kiln]

If it was realistic the Sun would've been white and would've died before even getting close

[hearty pendant]

the problem would've solved itself, ballas would suffer the same fate

[opaque dove]

Praghasa was struggling to withstand being that close if I recall

[median edge]

He's a self centered, reckless scientist, and borderline cult leader who thinks he knows better than everyone else lol trauma and fear and not good enough excuses unfortunately. He is orokin and they tend to think themselves smarter than everyone else. I hope we get to send him into a void without a spacesuit tbh

[solid otter]

Mm, was she? She was serving as our protection wasn't she?

She seemed pretty fine

It would be weird if she can't withstand the sun if she was made to uh

Eat the damn thing

[zenith jacinth]

..no

"Self centered" when the dude ran to 1999 to protect loid

[median edge]

You said your opinion ✅
I said mine ✅
That's all that needs to happen lol

[solid otter]

No thats just factually wrong

But i don't think you understand it

[median edge]

So true Thomas I can't understand the complex media literacy of being obsessed with Albert

Having a different opinion to you ≠ being factually incorrect
But I don't think you understand it

[zenith jacinth]

It's not really a matter of "opinion"

[median edge]

It quite literally is, icon ❣️

[zenith jacinth]

Albrecht is scared but also tries to protect ppl, he's not selfishly caring only for himself like other orokin might

[solid otter]

Im ignoring calling him reckless

[deft mist]

Slef centered i disagree with but he has a savior complex

[solid otter]

Bevause he is. The opposite

Half the issue folk have with him is his inability to communicate

Which comes from him being overly cautious

The only time I could see him being reckless was the void incident

[zenith jacinth]

So selfish, educating a fictional person given form on the danger of wally

[solid otter]

Which reads as an attempt

[deft mist]

Is it like the same thing with the indifference as with the warp in 40k the more people know the stronger it is

[solid otter]

And i aint gonna fault a man for trying to off himself

[zenith jacinth]

Nah

[deft mist]

Okay just curious

[median edge]

I think to have a savior complex you have to see yourself as a savior, knowing more than others and assuming they cannot handle it like you can

[solid otter]

Thats one interpretation. The other is that wally can literally be anyone at any time.

So. Why ever risk divulging anything

[zenith jacinth]

Wally's power is a constant thing not connected to other ppl

[solid otter]

Hell maybe thats why he trusted the hex as much as he did, the infestation is notoriously a weirdly good defense against wally

[zenith jacinth]

Just his fingerbones, kiddo

[deft mist]

2 out of 3

[solid otter]

Will I say Albrecht is selfish? I mean yeah but most humans are

[deft mist]

Ever read or watched shadow and bone

[zenith jacinth]

No why

[solid otter]

Theres no way someone is completely selfless unless its literally jesus from the damn bible incarnate

[deft mist]

Fingerbones it reminde me of the three amplifiers in it

[zenith jacinth]

-# (Even he was a bit selfish in some moments)

[solid otter]

People when a human has flaws and are trying to fix them

Clearly he's not doing anything not at all he's not doing anything at all

[zenith jacinth]

I referenced a line from the duviri quiz tablets, "where are my fingerbones, kiddo?"

[solid otter]

He doesnt feel bad about every single thing he does no clearly not

[median edge]

Lmfaoooo causes a bunch of destruction and horror he's just a sweet lil guy trying his best to fix he's flaws

[solid otter]

Clearly he didn't feel disgust and resentment towards himself for what happened to the cavia

[zenith jacinth]

That's not what we're saying OR what he's doing

[solid otter]

He is. Actively trying to fix his issues

Thats what the triad was.

Which. By the way

[deft mist]

Aj

[solid otter]

All willingly chose to do the serum

Including Roathe.

Roathe was the example for the others, and he knew full well what an helminth injection would do

[deft mist]

Im not saying hes right but we destroy an entire civilization

[median edge]

Oh, I have thoughts about the tenno too don't worry

[solid otter]

Oh yeah and the innocent sentients we murder in the old peace during the time we hunt down ballas

Oh and Loid sourcing the cavia for Albrecht

[zenith jacinth]

Lyon being the only one with the foresight to take off his clothes first is still funny to me

[solid otter]

Again and again.

[zenith jacinth]

Of course

[solid otter]

Like clearly Lyon understood what would happen lol

They aint stupid and im tired of folk acting as if they are

[deft mist]

Well doesnt all the harrows have like a hive mind

[solid otter]

Sure the writing is abysmal but like cmon

[median edge]

Damn, I can't believe I would have the audacity to form my own thoughts on a video game I like 😔

[solid otter]

Yuppers, but this was before then

[zenith jacinth]

Not quite but also kinda

[deft mist]

He mentioned he heard rell as a kid in chat

[zenith jacinth]

Infestation is weird I don't like it

[deft mist]

If i remember right

[solid otter]

Rell being a fella in all Harrow users minds is funny to me

"Hi :)"

"Oh my god there is a child"

[deft mist]

Schroedengirs hive mind

[deft mist]

Ha

Not wrong

[zenith jacinth]

With your thoughts on most things in this game I'm just afraid of the thoughts on tenno

[solid otter]

Mm, thats wally/infestation messing with the memory

This is something wally does

We see it with Neci

[thick iron]

why does everyone recommend ivara for spy, i've been speedrunning missions with a full efficiency/duration wukong (auto hack subsume over 4, though you could just bulk craft ciphers) and i haven't yet had a vault where is struggled. seems faster to use wukong ngl

[solid otter]

Ivara is just generally better for those things

[zenith jacinth]

Wukong

[solid otter]

Naturally too, so you didnt need to sacrifice an ability

[zenith jacinth]

Wukong is just a free win button 99% of the time

[solid otter]

Because now that wukong is locked into that build and thats. Funny

[thick iron]

i mean that's why you have configs

[solid otter]

Subsuming general use warframes for a specific usage is funny

[thick iron]

i have my regular bonk wukong on config A and spy on config B

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah uh subsume can be done per-config

[solid otter]

WHAT.

Me and my 3rd jade

[thick iron]

there's no way

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[solid otter]

Wait i have

Something for this

[median edge]

You literally don't know most of my thoughts on the game lmfao mainly just albercht

[zenith jacinth]

What, did you just check all 3 boxes every time you subsumed an ability

[thick iron]

im crine

you can undo the subsumes i'm pretty sure

[solid otter]

Had to replace a word but

[zenith jacinth]

Really

[solid otter]

Yeah I aint gonna risk shit bro

[solid otter]

It was handwritten before so I mightve gotten away with it actually

My handwriting after the ward was never the same

[zenith jacinth]

That's not what I was referring to

[thick iron]

i am really curious as to why you ticked all 3 boxes 😭

[solid otter]

Dw about me

Im

[floral hawk]

yeah

[zenith jacinth]

Dw as in do worry

[solid otter]

Gonna sell my jade again

[thick iron]

evade on harrow is genuinely s tier honestly

[solid otter]

Just gotta make sure its not the ones with archon shards

[median edge]

I love the names lol

[zenith jacinth]

I've never seen ppl with more than 3 config slots before

[floral hawk]

it gets a bit boring after a while 😭 crepuscular + spectral serration + cascade and you're the god of the world until the enemy thins out and the evade/covenant runs out

[zenith jacinth]

What is "typhoon season"

[solid otter]

Well thats a free warframe slot

I should get Xaku prime now

[floral hawk]

i'm glad you asked

[zenith jacinth]

I regret asking

[thick iron]

my main issue with playing harrow is enemies that are not grineer/corpus my god the weakpoints are so weird i can't be arsed to learn where they all are

[solid otter]

Well.

[opaque dove]

Even then, there were beams of solar energy ripping through her hull. We all saw what happened to erra

[whole mountain]

how long does the new war quest go? just finished my 4th mission playing as a slow character, i really miss my warframe...

[opaque dove]

An hour or two depending on how things go

[whole mountain]

ty i must be close to the end then

[opaque dove]

Where exactly are you at?

[zenith jacinth]

5-6 hours

[zenith jacinth]

No

[opaque dove]

Oh hells

[whole mountain]

Am playing as my adult operator again, i think the last thing i did was save 10 prisoners and hack smth? i think its the second node as adult operator now

[whole mountain]

oof

i thought the grineer one was ok but i love the normal gameplay for being fast and responsive, this no action walking in slow mo is not for me

[solid otter]

You would've hated og warframe lol

[median edge]

Bro they are lying it not an hour or so, it is several hours long depending on how it goes lol

[median edge]

You have a lot left

[whole mountain]

lol thank you, hopefully the gameplay will change up a bit but its fine its not bad just not as good as normal gameplay for me

[median edge]

It will definitely change up!

[zenith jacinth]

Didn't even read what I said

[median edge]

It gets less annoying the later on in the mission goes

[whole mountain]

cheers m8 i think i know eveything i needed to know, I will save space mom guys don't worry

[deft mist]

Theres more of that i find kahls mission sort of enjoyable

[opaque dove]

Oh the Corinth in his segments slaps

[soft pumice]

ima guess this message is bugged as i have tryed this for 4 days each waiting 10 mins to see if he will send a message

[solid otter]

I think if you just reload the orbiter/backrooms it should change it to a new conversation?

[soft pumice]

i tryed for 4 different days. it should have reloaded by now

[floral hawk]

bugged, can you go anywhere with roathe?

last time i had the bug i had to do a song and dance with roathe hating me and having to ask marie for help

thats after 21 descendia kills

if nothing else helps, reset or ask support to reset it for u (in a way that doesnt trigger a flag associated with resetting, if you care)

[balmy storm]

The Triad were not worth it istg

[floral hawk]

TRIAD SHOULDVE BEEN POSTPONED...

[uncut solar]

Triad shouldve been a separate update

[balmy storm]

Unfortunately they decided early on enough that they’d be ingrained into the update

They needed a shop for the new items ig and iirc Old Peace didn’t come with any new skins

[uncut solar]

It came with a whole package of weapon skins

[floral hawk]

whole load of tau dax cosmetics(?)

[uncut solar]

It also feels like they really shouldn't have added academy outfit to the prime access of all places

[balmy storm]

Those aren’t Warframe skins though

[uncut solar]

Important story outfit not in some accessible place, but in a stupid fomo paid only access

Why

[balmy storm]

At least prime access comes back and much cheaper

I get what they were going for but yeah it
Probably should have just been a quest reward

[uncut solar]

Old Peace quest itself was great

Everything around it felt like a huge rush

Triad was geniunely worthy of its own update

I swear I hope DE learned from that and we aren't gonna get

New batch of hamfisted low tier bait skins on top of every relevant update

[balmy storm]

I really hope they move away from protos for a bit

[uncut solar]

I mean we will, they do sell

They WONT and I'm absolutely sure of that

[balmy storm]

The Triad have been the truly most nothing ones tbh

[uncut solar]

I just pray that they won't do it like with the triad

[balmy storm]

Skins first
Characters second

[uncut solar]

Yep

[balmy storm]

Then they tried to overcomplicate one of the characters which broke everything

[uncut solar]

Can only hope they get an actual update to them

But I will not be surprised if they just

Stay as is, in an isolated room with Kim chats

[balmy storm]

Tbh even if they do I’m unsure if I’ll engage with them again

[uncut solar]

I mean if they do something like

Oh here's a door to another floor or outside

And now you get some sort of 1899 small mission type with a bunch of new protos

Like a filler update

[balmy storm]

With how broken they’ve been and how much I do not like Roathe and Marie I’m not sure I care enough about reuniting the family any more

[uncut solar]

Why can't protos come in a filler update, seriously