spoiler-chat

[dry dawn]

Ahhh, I need to find that place

[hearty pendant]

only annoying part is all of uriel and vinquibus using the same crafting materials

[floral hawk]

yeah, roathe is a pushover and a bum nerd and the french stat sticks come help you

[dry dawn]

Don't think I'm gonna get Uriel so I'll just settle for the weapon

[floral hawk]

youll unlock Descendia after this, he's at the bottommost floor

[dry dawn]

Sweet

[lofty girder]

5th time I've had to tell someone, the ping happens when you hit 0 on the ammo counter, not when you reload.

YOU STILL PING EVEN WITH AMMO EFFICIENCY

[hearty pendant]

you're still consuming less ammo prior to hitting zero, less pings
-# i'm probably wrong but its funnier to say this

[zenith jacinth]

I thought it's on reload

[uncut solar]

its on the last shot of the clip

efficiency allows you to shoot when you reach 1

so you still get more pings

[late spoke]

In the new update i die 😔

[dry dawn]

EWWWWW BALLAS LOOKED AT ME

Just finished another mission

This chapter is pretty nice

[solid otter]

Hm? Where are you at?

[shadow forum]

He said, you are next in fight.

[minor tundra]

I have no mouth an I must eat.....

Why no mouth

[faint quiver]

Can i ask here

Is it true that steel path will reset the main quest?

[obtuse gyro]

no

[faint quiver]

Ahhh

Is planet going to reset?

[obtuse gyro]

all your nodes? yes

[faint quiver]

Ahh i see ty

[obtuse gyro]

but you can toggle back to normal any time and your star chart will return to normal

[faint quiver]

I hate the main quest worm thing

Thanks

[median edge]

NGL I was thinking of dating Marie but she fr buying into alberts cult nonsense

[median edge]

I always assumed the markings on his tummy were meant to be a mouth and that's why they glow

[uncut solar]

concept art is supposed to have a core inside of him. Did they just... mess that up?

[median edge]

Why does this look so funny to me

[minor tundra]

Om nom

[dry dawn]

👋

continuing this sweet chapter

KULLERVO YOUR TIME TO SHINE LETS GOOOO

it was short 🤣

my kullervo's overguard carried back to sentient lol

||Adis, I will miss you dearly||

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

yeesh, my boy is pissed and rightfully so

now understand lotus a lot more now

fackkk

the music this chapter is amazing

[timid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/emotiguy-salute-joe-hi-emotiguy-joe-salute-gif-12916449566301630787

[pine wolf]

Yeah i cant forgive her or Lyon or Roathe for their mutual crimes of Spiritual Bypass

Kinda makes me judgy for her simps

[uncut solar]

Lol, game itself does that too

So many ppl ruined her romance just going "yes" to everything she says and the game having sort of a fail condition in it

[steep totem]

Always judge simps

[pine wolf]

Like... you're seeing these people delude themselves and willfully obligating yourself to preserving their delusion so that they can placate your ego?

Bruh i got a few words for that! Including "manipulative," "patronistic," "bad-faith," and just downright "Evil."

[thick iron]

i managed to make her see that albrecht isn't allat 🌹

[pine wolf]

Oh, based

This is the way.

No Walls, no Orokin.

Only roamin'.

I wonder if its tied to her hatred with roathe. Like, albrecht is so special simply for being so unlike the typical orokin.

(Since I am typing here i dont mind spoilers or corrections)

Spiritual bypassing is the misuse of spiritual beliefs, practices, or jargon to avoid dealing with uncomfortable emotions, psychological wounds, or, personal accountability. Coined by John Welwood, it manifests as a premature attempt to transcend, using concepts like "positive vibes only" or "everything happens for a reason" to mask pain or avoid difficult, necessary inner work.

Key Aspects and Signs
Avoidance of "Shadow": Suppressing anger, grief, or fear instead of processing them.

Toxic Positivity: Dismissing genuine pain with platitudes (e.g., "just pray about it" or "don't be sad").
False Superiority: Using spirituality to feel detached, "above" human, or better than others.
Boundary Violation: Over-emphasizing forgiveness or "niceness" to avoid conflict, set healthy boundaries, or hold others accountable.
Intellectualization: Using spiritual philosophies to rationalize unhealthy, repetitive, or avoidant behaviors.

Common Examples
Using astrology or karma to justify a lack of personal responsibility.
Pretending to be "above" anger while actually being passive-aggressive.
Excessive "fawning" or people-pleasing masked as compassion

While often well-intentioned, this defense mechanism hinders true emotional healing and psychological growth.

[stiff eagle]

Is this where we can discuss the upcoming warframe or is main chat okay (follie)

[hearty pendant]

yes x2
just depends on the audience you want

[pine wolf]

Dont mind me im just going off about the triad

Kinda mostly done the psa

[stiff eagle]

Ah kk, just making sure.

Does anyone else wonder if what they've shown might be getting reworked? (Or is what they've shown just a concept?) because her second is kind of cluttered. Why would we need to spawn the defense objective thing? Am i just dumb?

It's definitely the coolest thing i've ever seen and i hope it STAYS like what they've shown, but im conflicted on both sides

[hearty pendant]

they've taken some feedback and confirmed a couple of things, mostly regarding her second ability (spawned objects will have an inky texture, lohk surge will not have infinite ammo, for example)
defense objective is kinda just a fake target to distract enemies, similar to her 3 without the other bonuses

[stiff eagle]

So its exactly as they've shown, just mini reworks to the creations? Like you can create the boost for survival missions and for excav? (Assuming im remembering right and actually saw those in the gear wheel)

[hearty pendant]

afaik yes

[uncut solar]

Disruption keys is kind of wild

I really hate how they've been trying to seemingly make the game more interactive to make people actually pay attention and do something during the mission instead of blindly killing. Only to next release a warframe whose whole purpose is to avoid that...

[hearty pendant]

new meta, 4 follies
hm. wonder if those might have a global cooldown to prevent that actually

[stiff eagle]

I am in love with follie.

Aight creep-mode aside, i feel that if they CAN actually create these mission progression items, at least give it a cooldown of somesort.

[uncut solar]

I hate what she represents gameplay wise

Absolutely despise it, in fact

She takes "not needing to play the game" to a whole different level

Her 2 also spawns damage sources, and they'll scale with enemy level

[stiff eagle]

Just imagine her spamming her builds to crash others games on crappy consoles

[uncut solar]

It geniunely just feels so counterintuitive to.. everything

I'm really disappointed in their decision making

[hearty pendant]

precisely why there's a cooldown and why infinite ammo was removed from the lohk surge
apparently that buff only works in the tilesets it does because it can cause serious performance issues on other ones

[uncut solar]

Last couple reworks are just invulnerability buttons, Nokko and Uriel are completely botched balance wise and now Follie does it worse than ever before, letting you straight up partially ignore objectives

Idk what they're thinking

Ik it's a singleplayer game and such, but having at least a small bit of integrity has to matter

[stiff eagle]

It's hard to make a character that doesnt do 1000000000 damage in one button press whilst completely negating the objective by finishing it near immediately, or by not doing whats required

[uncut solar]

Why won't they just add a warframe that kills everything on the map

Sends drones that autocomplete all objectives

And has infinite health

[stiff eagle]

Too weak, it needs to be able to kill devices too

[uncut solar]

Balance? What balance?

I'm kinda done with warframe personally, all the latest updates have not been very thought out gameplay wise at all

[stiff eagle]

Balance? You mean an even distribution of weight enabling someone or something to remain upright and steady?

[uncut solar]

Just waiting how the story will unfold at tau

[stiff eagle]

They'll release John warframe from his binds

[uncut solar]

And how else are they going to remove the luster off protos as a concept

Sad

[stiff eagle]

Don't mind me, i'll eat dog food if it was covered in glitter, so i don't really mind if games give me halfbaked content anymore

[uncut solar]

Content isn't half baked

Production quality is great

[solid otter]

Its overused and folk are listening to too many people complaining about playing the game

[uncut solar]

But the lowest common denominator for their balance team seems to be a lobotomized squirrel

[solid otter]

If you dont wanna play the damn game dont play it

[uncut solar]

Except for hardmode bosses

[solid otter]

Pablo... Pablo disappoints

[uncut solar]

These get dedicated nerfs around them for some reason

They kill aya farm one patch

Then announce Follie???

Idk, Ill probably stop complaining because I just got barraged with insults last time

[solid otter]

Its a reasonable thing to be upset over

[stiff eagle]

I love the game, i'm referring to the balancing as for why it's "halfbaked". I'd play this game no matter what happens to it, it's playerbase, or myself.

[uncut solar]

Don't get me wrong, pretty much everything else is top notch

But the way it's heading I'd rather just discuss lore and check the story

I've been playing Deadlock instead

[obtuse gyro]

Follie can spawn a life support tower and disruption keys.

But remind me, isnt the "optimised" version of survival gameplay camping in a room ignoring the life support tower? And isnt disruption a matter of killing goobers until one of them drops a random key?

Are critical objectives being ignored in follie or

[uncut solar]

Yeah she straight up bruteforces these modes

She would also be invaluable in any sort of ETA EDA run

Because... She bruteforces these modes

She adds fake defense objectives too

She has level scaling dmg

[obtuse gyro]

she's brute forcing a mode where the usual gameplay is ignoring the tower mechanic in favour of kpm life support?

[uncut solar]

She is just enabling even more of it

[obtuse gyro]

and this is an issue because?

[uncut solar]

Developers are enabling playing the game less

[stiff eagle]

4 follies on any missions that require items (like cores, oxygen etc) is just gonna be op

[uncut solar]

Game already has an issue of people not playing the game

They're just making it worse

[thick jolt]

decoy says hi

[obtuse gyro]

flechette orb, sorry no, flechette-tether orb says hi too

[uncut solar]

My point is that she is exasperating the problem that has been very apparent already

Apparently playing the game is something we have to account for now as a balance decision

[median edge]

I hope she's more balanced on release

[uncut solar]

Why did they start listening to people who basically have the spatial awareness and gamesense of a chocolate bar

And balancing the game around them

[uncut solar]

They quite literally said "we are removing infinite ammo surge but only because of performance issues. And we might add it if the issues are solved"

I don't think they care anymore :(

People say like it's ok that the game gets a character that makes the existing problem of not playing the game being "meta" worse

It's a solo game of course, but are we really going to let this be an argument to just remove all challenge from literally anything

Blehgh

Back to my metaphorical basement

[obtuse gyro]

cool

anyways, ahead of follie being able to spawn a tower, theyve included a mechanic to force you out of the hole you've camped in to speed up the survival timer so you can get more reward for less time

although I suspect you'll read that as another point in not playing the game

[thick jolt]

also we dont know the final cooldowns on the drawings

[uncut solar]

No actually that's a pretty good thing if they actually make you go decently far after it

[obtuse gyro]

I know in the devstream it was 30 seconds

[obtuse gyro]

well in the devstream I couldn't tell if it was a skissue that megan had to hunt for that jaun for a good 3-5 minutes

[uncut solar]

I'm all up to reducing reward timers if this means doing something for it

[obtuse gyro]

should be 3 since the timer started running down in the 2 mins

[uncut solar]

In modes where the time is fixed, giving something like this is actually a good idea imo

Because as I said they just removed the challenge from the game

May as well poke a player with a stick so they may want to move a bit faster

[thick jolt]

different for different objects

[obtuse gyro]

thats not the cooldown tho

thats how long the entity is on the field

[uncut solar]

Like voidrigs in EDA Mirror Defense

[obtuse gyro]

the cooldowns are in the summon menu

[thick jolt]

it is orb still spinning and the orb icon on the ui is gone

[obtuse gyro]

get a clip of the menu when they summon the life support

and then lets see how it tallies when they summon something else

[thick jolt]

thermian icon is now gone and thermian no longer has lock

also barrel and arc trap didnt trigger icons

[thick jolt]

or rather a timer

[obtuse gyro]

neat

which means LST is a 1 min cooldown

[thick jolt]

at least at the time of the devstream

[obtuse gyro]

which means that unless you have at least 2-3 follies

you cant just spam towers

unless they make LST cooldown shared

then extra follies wont be able to help

[hearty pendant]

if any have a shared cooldown, its prolly the conduit key
that's the only one that i could see reasonably crossing out of 'convenience'
out of the objective spawns at least

[obtuse gyro]

conduit key and LST really, the rest wont have any pressing value to need one

shared cooldown on the barrel bomb is crazy

let us have our 4 follies and a barrel bomb fiesta

actually yea I want to see whats the damage on having follie 4 an enemy, and then have the enemy drop onto 4 follie barrels

[hearty pendant]

i could also see the orokin death orb having a shared cooldown
or maybe a radius where you can't summon another around an existing one

depends on how much damage it does ig

[floral hawk]

this is some looney tunes nonsense

the barrels have ACME branding on them?

[hearty pendant]

new execution method /s

[median edge]

She's kinda who framed Roger rabbit coded in that sense lol

[floral hawk]

you are sentenced to... wile e coyote skullduggery

[lofty girder]

Shoot now i want a frame that benefits from you chaining increasingly complicated ways of killing enemies

[obtuse gyro]

dont we see two death orbs?

[obtuse gyro]

ah no this is one orb with a very bright arc trap

[solid otter]

Death obs... reckon they'll spawn in both types?

[lofty girder]

+Parry
+Parry
+Disrespect
+Ricochet
+Quad Feed

[hearty pendant]

do we? i'd have to check
i only remember one

[solid otter]

Ultrakill mentioned

[lofty girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ultrakill-brick-throwing-brick-parry-gif-27624590

[hearty pendant]

the first one despawns while they're spamming rockets, didn't see them spawn a second

[obtuse gyro]

yea nah I mistook a very bright arc trap for a second orb

which in hindsight doesnt make sense because there was only one follie

[floral hawk]

killing a boss with the ghoulsaw should net you +UNCHAINEDSAW

[obtuse gyro]

so there couldnt have been two simultaneous orbs

[hearty pendant]

for the death orb, cooldown is 30 seconds, duration is ~45 seconds
they could coexist but not for long
assuming that summoning a new one doesn't overwrite the old

[thick jolt]

there could be a summon limit yeah

i remember some teaser probably pablo posted on social media

[obtuse gyro]

what the inked up visuals?

[thick jolt]

https://x.com/PabloMakes/status/2026406002476683476

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

A little preview of Friday's Devstream!

X · Feb 24, 2026, 9:16 PM

To me this resembles the icon/timer ui

And kinda give me the feeling of only 3 objects at a time

[remote raft]

https://tenor.com/view/v1-ultrakill-funny-rat-dance-gif-16495615408189664439

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v1-ultrakill-dislike-thumbs-down-ultrakill-v1-gif-8759994374455967488

[obtuse gyro]

Anyways

given that descendia is literally mental hell

I wonder if warframe will ever explore a real hell

thats not a "oh this is hell" like the void

[floral hawk]

putting together a gabriel fit for it

I think the zariman is the closest thing we have to a precipice of hell? or together we can conceptually embody a new game mode centering on an expedition or-the-sorts into it

[lofty girder]

Waiter! Waiter!
Another 100 Harrow Gabriel fashions!

[floral hawk]

NOOOO WSIT

i was so overjoyed over the concept of descending into a different hell that for a moment i forgot "overdone fashion" is a thing

[zenith jacinth]

So overdone

[floral hawk]

[sobbing and crying] v2 gauss...?

[zenith jacinth]

Worse

[floral hawk]

[crying harder] grendel new deluxe guttertank..?

[zenith jacinth]

Get an e1m1 octavia and you got the unholy trinity

[lofty girder]

Minos Prime Dagath

[floral hawk]

okay you're promoted to new creative director

[solid otter]

E1m1???? Doom reference

[wise solstice]

Vaiter, Vaiter, Zere iz a Vly in my Zoup

[glass grove]

Am I the only one who likes necramech Loid but thinks human Loid is a jerk?

[tame hull]

THANK YOU

He was really annoying to me imo

[glass grove]

Necramech Loid is literally the only reasonable one in Deimos

[hearty pendant]

meh, Loid has quite a bit going on
n he does get better with that as you rank up w/ the cavia

[balmy storm]

Loid’s attitude is understandable lol

[tame hull]

Isn't the entire family forcibly kept in the dark by albrecht tho? Also is albrecht Arthur or dr entrati?

[glass grove]

Dr

[hearty pendant]

albrecht entrati

[glass grove]

The one with the terrible drip

[balmy storm]

Arthur is not Albrecht lmao

[balmy storm]

His is drip is not terrible lmao

[tame hull]

I got the two mixed up and idk why

I will 100% be romancing that man tho

[balmy storm]

Arthur?

[tame hull]

YES

[balmy storm]

Lol go off

[glass grove]

He's simultaneously dressed like a rich old man and an unemployed college student

[hearty pendant]

albrecht sealed the labs and left his requiem logs on his 'we end as we began' line
iirc that's all the family knows about his "current" circumstance then

[tame hull]

The whole hex quest was such a blur for me, it went by too fast and its been too long since I've done anything in deimos to remember the family lore lol

[glass grove]

What does human Loid think of Albretch anyway? Because it sounds like he dislikes him for...well, every reason there is to do it, but at the same time...

[hearty pendant]

lovers, Loid just had some resentment over his abandonment built up
he was reminded of their love at the end of whispers

[tame hull]

The end of whispers lowkey damn near made me cry

I hate the heartbeat coming from the statues though, it freaks me out

[glass grove]

Considering how...detestable Albretch seems to be, I don't see how Loid could even like him unless he's equally as bad.

Also, I don't really get what happened with the big robots/statues

I know it was us doing something, but I don't get why we did that, or why it worked.

[hearty pendant]

in whispers?

[glass grove]

Yeah

[hearty pendant]

the one was being controlled by the man in the wall, recreating the scene from the start of the quest between Loid and Albrecht with the vessels reminded Loid of his love for Albrecht, the man in the wall was driven off by it
as albrecht says during The Hex, "That's it, isn't it? The poison to your plan. Love."

[tame hull]

One of the statues was like Uber upset (dunno why)

[glass grove]

I knew it was a recreation, but I didn't know why it worked.

[glass grove]

Yeah, that still isn't clear even with the explanation.

But oh well, at least I'm done with that quest which made me go in and out in and out IN AND OUT OF THE LAB AND SENT ME TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP JUST TO MAKE ME GO BACK

[tame hull]

LMAOO I get the pain it was so long for no reason

[glass grove]

All while having to deal with jerks

And the fish

[tame hull]

Also yeah I had no idea what was going on i was ONLY in it for the hex and 1999 stuff

[hearty pendant]

was being controlled by the man in the wall, whose defining character trait is being mad at albrecht over what albrecht did to him

[tame hull]

I wanted to punch fibonacchi so bad

[glass grove]

And why did Albert send the last two members of a species on an expedition where the chance of survival was unknown?

[tame hull]

Oh?

[hearty pendant]

explained in his notes
-# which i'm grabbing now

"The catalyst was uniqueness. That attribute was what caught the interest of the bland and undifferentiated Void."
the last of a species is pretty unique

[glass grove]

Honestly, with all of Loid's talk about how Albretch uses people and tries to justify his terrible actions and all that, their relationship doesn't make sense.

[glass grove]

So he sent them because he knew the Void would like it, or because the Void told him to?

And also...how is Albretch related to the rest of the Entrati family if he's not the Grandfather?

[hearty pendant]

albrecht broke into the void, was met with an exact copy of himself, reaching towards him. albrecht ran, eventually got back out (though was severely scarred in the process), and wrote in his blood to tell his daughter (iirc) to close the 'door' to the void
when it was closed, it cut one or multiple fingers from it
requiem logs

[hearty pendant]

Mother's father

[solid otter]

Hes a bitter man but he still loves Albrecht

[glass grove]

So Grandmother is from the other side of the family?

[solid otter]

Yup

We do know Albrecht's wife, but he didnt like her much

[glass grove]

That explains why she's the most normal one

[solid otter]

Gotta love arranged marriages

[tame hull]

Oooohhh

[glass grove]

Where is she?

[solid otter]

||Dead.||

[glass grove]

When did it happen?

[hearty pendant]

he was trying to "unmake the adversary" by dumbing it down with animals
but nothing he threw in worked, until he threw in something "unique"
and that's when there was an actual result. not the one he wanted, but a result nonetheless

[solid otter]

A bit after Euleria was born. I wanna say. 5-8 years after

[solid otter]

I can see the logic behind it

[glass grove]

Ah. So at least Albert didn't leave her for Loid...right?...right?

[solid otter]

He did not love her.

It was an arranged marriage he was very upset in

I don't blame him if he did

[glass grove]

Unfortunately, it's chemistry logic for something completely unknown

[hearty pendant]

timeline for her and Loid is not completely known afaik, beyond Loid being around for Euleria's childhood
which doesn't super narrow it down

[solid otter]

He was established as Euleria's caretaker of sorts by the time we have been using, so id imagine they were closer during the marriage

[glass grove]

It would still be kind of a jerk move to leave her when they already have kids and all. But idk, we're not looking at Albretch for examples of being good.

[solid otter]

Honestly

Not really thats probably like

The most understandable thing he could've ever done

He might not even like women

He had no choice in what happened, and i cannot blame him for leaving if he did. Which. He didn't but still

[glass grove]

Understandable? Yes. Correct? No.
You can't just start a family and then leave them.

[solid otter]

He didnt want to. And nor did he leave them.

He did not choose to do this

[hearty pendant]

-# by the time he actually did leave them, his daughter had a husband

[solid otter]

-# which he might not even like given he doesnt have his token in the netracells

Tolerates grandmother enough to

[glass grove]

Imagine Grandmother did it herself because she's goated like that

[solid otter]

Id find it really funny if grandmother managed to get into the netracells

[hearty pendant]

i think its funny as hell that grandmother's token is in there but father's isn't
regardless of if there's lore implications or if its just someone at DE leaving it out

[solid otter]

Son's isnt either

Maybe Albrecht just didn't like the men of the entrati family

[glass grove]

Isn't that just himself and Son? By blood at least.

[solid otter]

Yeah but Father was married in

Oh! We have Father's original name too

Petros. Petros Vorten. Who may or may not be related to the vortengeist labs [the people behind the aesthetic Gyre's deluxe has]

[glass grove]

Honestly there's only ones in Deimos that feel reasonable and relatively normal are Grandmother, Loid (the good one), Otak, and the dog.

[solid otter]

Necraloid 😭

Hes a copy of Loid's brain without half of his dislike. Maybe because it was probably done before Loid harboured a lot of it

[hearty pendant]

they all get a little more normal the more time you spend with them (as in rank ups n such)

the fish remains arrogant

[solid otter]

Loid gets. Weirder tbh

Looking at it

He gets weirder

[glass grove]

Unfortunately, that requires more grind that I'm willing to do

[solid otter]

Ahh its one of the easiest syndicates to rank up

[glass grove]

Maybe he needs an emotional support Dante

[floral hawk]

i think son and daughter are just passionate about what they do

[solid otter]

Drusus. Emotional support drusus

[glass grove]

The family isn't

[floral hawk]

i mean daughter listens to the backstreet boys

[hearty pendant]

the entrati family's rank up grind did get reduced a decent amount for Old Peace
n cavia's not that bad, i don't think

[solid otter]

Cavia is super easy, entrati is easy now too

[solid otter]

I still believe Albrecht showed her that

I cannot believe anyone who says otherwise

[floral hawk]

cavia is pretty ehh because bounties reward standing and not tokens/voca so you cant stockpile
however i love the family, the drift spawns a LOT of conservation animals

[solid otter]

He had 31 ONLYNE CDS IN THE BACKROOMS

That man. That man

[hearty pendant]

i think its more fun if albrecht is behind it but i don't think its likely

[glass grove]

This sounds like a meme

[solid otter]

Probably not but its funny if he did to to Lyon as well

[solid otter]

Ive counted them, i am not joking 😭

The backroom's state is how Albrecht left it [given we come in and its like this]

[glass grove]

Gotta love walking on an amalgamation of body tissues and organs. And going into the "caves" by getting eaten.

Warframe truly has everything

[solid otter]

This includes

-pizza crusts that matches the pizza crusts for the veggie pizza big bytes sell. Including. Olives.
-coffee cups [disposable and ceramic mugs]
-31 (or more) onlyne cds
-a lot of dark sector cassettes
-sweets. Including chocolate

Why is he like this whats wrong with him

[glass grove]

Too much

[solid otter]

Autism, probably tbh

31 onlyne cds is.

Impressive.

[glass grove]

If they have that many, makes sense he'd want the whole collection

[solid otter]

Iirc theyve only ever released 4 songs

So. Thats the weird part, 4 songs. 31 cds. The. The autism in this man

[hearty pendant]

there's one? that's only mentioned in a spotify description and the two we hear in-game
not remembering a fourth atm

[solid otter]

Basing it off the 4 consistent cd covers

3 obviously being the ones mentioned + the other one maybe

Maybe its a compilation

[hearty pendant]

"RUNNING LATE", "PARTY OF YOUR LIFETIME", and "THE GREAT DESPAIR"
these guys need less caps
but yeah there's prolly a fourth if there's 4 different covers

[glass grove]

Plot twist: he just uses the CD cases to store his recordings

[solid otter]

Recordings of what 😭

Loid. Those are full of photos of Loid and Kalymos/j

Albrecht is a strange fella

[hearty pendant]

untapped albrecht lore source in the CD cases

[solid otter]

Mild kleptomaniac

He has stolen. So many things

And its not serious things

He stole cars and put them in a tube

[floral hawk]

ive seen this in the labs, yeah

[tight pagoda]

Imagine if the obols on his coat were like CDs and contained data

[solid otter]

Mm, that would be. Awesome actually

[floral hawk]

unreleased onlyne songs

[glass grove]

Experiments

[glass grove]

Kalymos is a person???

[solid otter]

Its so silly why does he have them 😭

[hearty pendant]

th e cat

[solid otter]

Kalymos the kavat, he thinks shes as smart as a person tho

Its a funny thing he does.

[floral hawk]

"so this is a kaithe with wheels instead of legs? wonderful, i want 10 for my current timeline"

[glass grove]

Ah

[solid otter]

Calls her sagacious

[solid otter]

Now imagine how he got them in the labs. Imagine Albrecht driving

[hearty pendant]

-# "It was not necessary to explore queasy debates about the Oro; animal minds simply lacked the full distinction of a singular persona. My Kalymos, I was sure, was an exception, but I would not sacrifice that loyal being."

[floral hawk]

he runs over a group of people and goes 'effervescent' or smth

[solid otter]

My favourite Albrecht quote is like

None of the sad shit, screw that

Its. "(benevolently)"

[hearty pendant]

modify the atomicycles

(benevolently)

[solid otter]

Shout out to this one too

[solid otter]

Implying he could do it malevolently

Oh thats

Probably what he meant. Thats Probably the weapons

[glass grove]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-sonic-x-gif-11147319604941222102

[solid otter]

Yeah thats some eggman shit

Some others

Oh also

The atomicycles having 220 horsepower is. Wild

Like. Debatably street legal wild

[lofty girder]

Wouldn't that mean they'd hit like 200 kmh?

[lofty girder]

Actually wait... Iirc the boost pushes them to 40m/s, that's 144 km/h

[solid otter]

Mm, if you can understand cc, its. Around/above 1000cc. Its. Wild. And very much not safe without protection 😭

[lofty girder]

And yet I've regularly heard scooters louder than the tommy...

[solid otter]

Yeah its. Not properly scaled i dont think

[lofty girder]

Nah, scooters around me have aftermarket exhausts made by their cousin's workshop designed to be as loud as possible

[solid otter]

Well thats obnoxious

[shadow forum]

What if roathe was a wally.

all this time.

[uncut solar]

We put him in the pool to search memories

I think Cavia would've freaked out if he was Wally as well

They can sense it

[willow jay]

Someone should draw that one Rize image with Roathe.

[solid otter]

I would but I genuinely despise the man

Might do it as wally-Loid tho

[willow jay]

Roathe is growing on me. "Like mould", as he put it.

[median edge]

^^^ same lol

[zenith jacinth]

I want to stab him repeatedly but he has some good opinions

[solid otter]

Half of those opinions arent even his.
-# if its about Wally's creation

His ass just read the operator report that comes to that conclusion

[zenith jacinth]

His opinions on the empire and orokin in general

[solid otter]

The bare minimum 😭

"Mm yes the empire of slavers and child murderers was bad actually" yeah no shit Roathe

Not that he cares about either, considering he actively wants to do continuity again, and will call grineer slurs

[zenith jacinth]

Oh you're more biased than me somehow

[solid otter]

Dude

He deadass says it himself.

[median edge]

Idk for me like even when he's wrong he's authentically wrong lol I am slowly appreciating him as a complex character at least. I wish Marie and Lyon had more complexity and depth

[solid otter]

The only thing stopping him was the infestation.

And! He'll call the grineer a slur regardless of what ending you get

Not a big fan of that

[zenith jacinth]

Ik but he also wanted to reset the empire and make orokin either not exist or lose power

[solid otter]

Yeah and place himself as the power

[zenith jacinth]

Temporarily

[solid otter]

Scrap. Do you honestly think he would've given it up? Doesn't. Doesn't he admit that himself actually

Hold on Kim time

[zenith jacinth]

He admits that he's unsure

But for an orokin that's already an improvement

[solid otter]

So 50/50 chance 😭

If that

Regardless, the main issues of the empire and the orokin still persist with him

And lowkey I don't like slave owners 😭

[median edge]

https://tenor.com/view/stress-headache-gif-19532428

[zenith jacinth]

He shows willingness to change

[solid otter]

But he doesn't?

He doesnt change against the main issues with the empire

Again, wants to do continuity and still uses a slur. Least daughter doesnt after the next rank up with kahl

[zenith jacinth]

People can't change if they're never given a chance yk

[lofty girder]

Lowkey? Imma highkey zarr his face ala John Brown

[solid otter]

Im gonna do far worse than that. Dw we can do it together tho

[lofty girder]

Remember kids! It's never wrong to punch a fascist!

[solid otter]

Watch out, roathe defenders might explode at seeing their precious meow meow being called a horrible person

[willow jay]

I think we'll see his true colours once we find Albrecht. That will be the point where we see if can truly change.

[uncut solar]

Do you really think DE will let him be a part of the story going forward

[solid otter]

He obviously has to change, thats the point of his existence

[uncut solar]

I geniunely feel like triad was made just to sell skins and will vanish into nothingness story wise

[solid otter]

Yuppers

[willow jay]

I worry the same.

[solid otter]

And for rebb to add on her own weird shit into the game again but thats. Neither here nor there

[uncut solar]

What do you mean, exactly?

[solid otter]

I was, from the start, unenthusiastic about the triad. Seeing marie as what she is and all

[solid otter]

Oh, I'll explain in dms, a certain someone will jump my throat for disliking it

[uncut solar]

I was unenthusiastic because unlike the hex they had zero main story relevance

They kinda ended the luster of protos

I'm sure they sell well, we will continue getting more

[solid otter]

I hate em cus they feel shoehorned in

[uncut solar]

As I repeat time and time again

[solid otter]

I am. Incredibly glad that Follie doesn't have one

[willow jay]

I love the weird shit. It's their tendency to forget things they add after they grow bored of it. Ironic to the story they're trying to tell.

[uncut solar]

Hex were characters first, skins second. Triad are skins first, characters second

[uncut solar]

My dms are all open

[solid otter]

Exactly!

I just found it weird that Albrecht goes on and mentions every single thing he did in his notes, good and bad

But just. Forgets to mention he went to france for 3 years and kidnapped an orokin.

Well. He didn't kidnap roathe, that was Roathe's own doing

[willow jay]

Speaking of skins, I'm still hoping against hope we get the primary Protokol skins.

[fringe pond]

They probably are to be entirely honest
If anything i thought people agreed that they were lol

[median edge]

I do hope they add depth to them but idk I'm not holding my breath

I just unfortunately think the triad is under written and roathe is kinda the only interesting one to talk to

I honestly forget they are protos sometimes

[uncut solar]

its a matter of whether they stay in the story for longer

if they dont - rip

[balmy storm]

If they weren’t baked into the update it likely would have elevated both, since the Triad would have been delayed

But if that happened then Follie would have come later which
She may need

Why doesn’t the Shadowgrapher effect abilities

[median edge]

Does anyone feel like their drifter/operator would have a preference of Warframe

[balmy storm]

Yup, they def would have their own preferences for frames and weapons

[uncut solar]

Don't we have a kim chat dialogue for this?

With Quincy I think

[undone lodge]

Not favourite but yeah

It’s like the freakiest or creepiest frame or something

And then with Roathe you can choose favourite weapon type/killing method

[balmy storm]

I believe that’s an Arthur chat

Broadsword: What is the most horrifying warframe you have access to? (ArthurRank6Convo7

[uncut solar]

Oh right

It was with Roathe, the killing methods and weapons

[zenith jacinth]

probably

[lean plover]

finished the red veil quest for rell and im like. the intro to the arc was super cool but then it turned into grindy bs…..

[ornate carbon]

does otak and the other guy both know about the sanctum atomica

like the other guy on the necraloid

[cerulean kiln]

Otak was put to sleep when the Kalymos sequence was activated and is asleep anytime Necraloid goes downstairs

[rugged shore]

would it not just be your favorite frame?

[dim sky]

wait, do we know whos the next prime releasing?

[rugged shore]

styanax

followed likely by Voruna

[grizzled coral]

Mini spoilers of the Zariman Rank 5
||Huh...all the crews of the Zariman when I level up Rank 5 all of them they don't have marks of the Void did they...heal or something?||

[obtuse gyro]

the huh?

[balmy storm]

Follie’s sketchbook is called the Shadowgrapher, I wish it was more akin to the Mandacord in terms of how it functions with abilities
Not just
Custom icon maker

[obtuse gyro]

Not sure what you wished it could do

wdym by affects abilities

[real niche]

||They mentioned they were feeding off your Void energy, which is why they were saved after the quest.||

[grizzled coral]

||Ahh that makes sense||

[balmy storm]

Maybe certain colors or certain shapes effect the ability, like what can spawn

So it’s not just a devlist of items :p

[zenith jacinth]

? What

[obtuse gyro]

so like a chroma element sitch except for determining entity spawn?

I see where youre going, but wouldnt that restrict the creative liberty of the shadowgrapher?

[balmy storm]

Eh kinda, think chroma element switch but it’s also the mandachord

[balmy storm]

Eh not really
Limitations can cause people to be even more creative, plus if someone really wants their icon to be something specific they’ll find a way to make it work

[obtuse gyro]

But say a colour I really want to use is tagged to the pneumonia armament, and I dont want to use the armament, wouldnt I be limited in that regard

[balmy storm]

Nope
Hide a buncha that color underneath your actual drawing

People are creative, they can find a way

Also I think it’d force people to put a millisecond more thought into it and might balance it better

[obtuse gyro]

similarly, if I want to be able to activate the whole roster, whats the difference between the current system now and what youre proposing in terms of practical use

[solid otter]

Ehh, we have a layer limit though

16 layers only

[balmy storm]

Remove the layer limit

[obtuse gyro]

because it sounds like the same result but with more effort

[balmy storm]

Or just hide a buncha stuff on a layer

Also I would say we don’t need the entire sketchbook

Why does she have like 10 summons
That should be balanced

[solid otter]

Folk are already concerned about what folk are gonna make in it 😭 iirc DE might add something to sone ToS feature or smthn

Mm. Isnt it energy based? Can't exactly spam if you run out of energy

[balmy storm]

Make her drawings the actual creative aspect of her kit do anything with her kit

[obtuse gyro]

its going to be the same as how DE deals with ToS breaking names

[balmy storm]

My worry isn’t spam
Also they’re on cooldowns

I just would rather her Shadowgrapher actually do something in regards to her abilities
Or
I guess just the one ability

Cause as cool as it is, it doesn’t do anything

[solid otter]

She is. Clown first, artist second i think

[obtuse gyro]

each layer can only hold one object now tho

[balmy storm]

To me Follie lacks creativity in her actual kit

[balmy storm]

She’s ink first clown second.

[solid otter]

Thats what shes supposed to be but i think they didnt do the best execution for it

[balmy storm]

I don’t really care what it’s locked to now, it should do something

It’s like having the mandachord do literally nothing
There’s no point to it other than “oh that’s neat”

[balmy storm]

From where I’m sitting Follie feels like they took a few too many missteps

[solid otter]

I am excited, if only for the fashion aspect

[balmy storm]

I do wanna see how she is when she comes out but right now I have never been more disappointed in a frame

[balmy storm]

Oh yeah no that aspect of her is good lol

[solid otter]

And the story. Hoping that they also fix the borked triad chats

[balmy storm]

They better

[solid otter]

I hope they just. Add a little more loid chats but that is delusion

[balmy storm]

If I give the Triad a third chance and they’re still broken then I’m done
Idc about Loid meeting the family anymore if it’s just going to be broken

[solid otter]

If its still borked will I be able to discuss the family's comments post reunion

[balmy storm]

I mean you got free will but I sure won’t be happy bout it

More so cause lore I want to interact with is locked behind a bugged system
Not you lol

[solid otter]

Oh good

Got. Worried

[balmy storm]

I’m not gonna be mad at someone for talking about something that I should reasonably have already had access to
It ain’t your fault lol

[solid otter]

Thank you ducky

[obtuse gyro]

like right now or are you going to wait for DE to say they fixed it, and then see if its still broke

[thick iron]

6 liches in and still no kuva nukor spawn

[obtuse gyro]

are you remembering to complete the mission instead of abandoning it?

[thick iron]

yes

i finally got it it took 8 spawns

[fringe pond]

you also should wait until the larvling dies before you go to extraction

[thick iron]

really? i have not been doing that lmao

[fringe pond]

yeah it doesnt take the skipped weapons out of rotation if you extract before the larvling dies

[obtuse gyro]

thats... not true?

[fringe pond]

huh fr?

i remember seeing something bout it

[obtuse gyro]

unless the larvling manages to die in the few seconds I reach extraction from when I dome it

[obtuse gyro]

huh no youre right

I guess they do die that fast

[median edge]

Idk the conversation but me unlocking mirage today like ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[floral hawk]

there r so many methods for energy generation these days that DE can't even make "so this ability takes a gazillion energy" as a setback method 😭 my subsumed roar takes 114 energy to activate and with just equil + synth deconstruct i gain it back in seconds

[obtuse gyro]

but also like her passive provides orbs so shes ok for energy regen

[floral hawk]

bless you

[balmy storm]

Wait for them to fix it and see if it’s still busted

[floral hawk]

oh god yeah she has built-in synth deconstruct

[obtuse gyro]

DE has released back to back frames with their own energy management

oraxia spawns orbs, nokko restores energy, GULPHAGOR, and now inkybobinky gives orbs

[floral hawk]

iirc its sorta implied that our presence keeps them here/"heals" them, i forgot exactly the line

oh its been answered

head in the dirt

[floral hawk]

yeah, my goodness. Thurible's gonna be out of work soon

[balmy storm]

Temple: ☹️

[balmy storm]

Trauma chains or funny mushroom?
Hmmm…

[obtuse gyro]

temple doesnt generate energy buuut, they do have energy mitigating gimmicks

back beat is 50% energy cost

so you get to cast pyro for 12.5 energy

cast it enough and backbeat lizzie for free

"enough" being like 5 times for max ammo

[balmy storm]

I was mentioning them cause they got left out of having energy regen lol

[obtuse gyro]

true, but DE definitely had energy management in mind for temple

[balmy storm]

Oh for sure lol

[obtuse gyro]

Im waiting for a frame that uses health for energy

and no garuda's blood for energy doesnt count

[floral hawk]

why not 🥺

[obtuse gyro]

because it uses health to make energy

I want health as energy

[floral hawk]

oh i see, hildryn style

evil hildryn

[obtuse gyro]

mhmm

[steep totem]

So, Gourmand and Despoil type mechanic, but across all 4 abilities

[obtuse gyro]

bingo

[steep totem]

That actually sounds kinda interesting

[obtuse gyro]

it will require the upcoming changes to health tanking

because no way a health based warframe will have shields LMAO

[steep totem]

That, and probably something similar to Hildryn's passive along the lines of health tanking

Maybe a built-in Arcane Persistence?

[obtuse gyro]

easily I know the second ability will be a health regenerating ability

[steep totem]

I'd probably run Pulse and Grace on that frame, ngl

[solid otter]

True.
-# using this bcs it feels like an accurate response

[atomic marten]

I would die for her. I would kill for her. Either way, what bliss

[balmy storm]

I still don’t get this

[balmy storm]

I’m so sorry if this comes off as rude but what do you see in her

[floral hawk]

roathe tries kombucha

[willow jay]

lol, I just had a big argument with her. Funny to see this immediately after,

[solid otter]

"Oh. Hm. Yeah. Nah" sorta response

[balmy storm]

Is it from something I’m not getting it 😭

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/kombucha-girl-brittany-broski-woman-tasting-taste-test-mixed-emotions-gif-26748289

[balmy storm]

OH

OH
THAT LMAO

[solid otter]

[shut jacinth]

Second time this happened what’s this even mean?

[floral hawk]

what does the note say?

either she hates you or youre bugged

[tight pagoda]

Anathema means you're blocked, you have either done something to upset them, haven't done anything yet and so you're progression locked (i.e. if you don't do 21 Roathe fights to unlock his messages), or most likely you're bugged because there's a lot of that with the Triad

[shut jacinth]

Yeah I am romanced but that seems not to matter I enteract in cathedral and she has romance lines

[merry shore]

did someone seriously animate this? 😭

[solid otter]

yuppers

[merry shore]

that's hilarious, I'm stealing it

[uncut solar]

DE themselves did it

[floral hawk]

rebb conceptual-embodied it

[merry shore]

That is EVEN BETTER oh my god

[uncut solar]

This one too

I think?

[tight pagoda]

Yeah I believe there was an animator with some extra time on her hands so she just did all this

[lapis lion]

Same man
It's "Close" but anathema ffs

[solid otter]

How much extra time does one have 😭

They might just work insanely fast

[tame hull]

Fr lmao

[fringe pond]

I wonder where Reb keeps the Roathe kiss scene with the Lotus added to it

[solid otter]

Its her own game iirc? Isnt that her whole thing

[fringe pond]

Secret Rebb stash

[fringe pond]

Woh?

Oh yeah

[solid otter]

Swear i heard that somewhere lemme see if i can find where

[fringe pond]

Im just thinking

[willow jay]

Not that I was going for a romance, but what?

[fringe pond]

Kim chats have BEEN buggy lmao

[wispy hare]

how can this guy have a way to escape death

[hexed relic]

i got a message with a date with marie in it but i cant use it, and no cutscene played when i logged in

[balmy storm]

Share the message

[hexed relic]

i figured it out, the dates from the cathedral are captura scenes. a bit disappoint they're not cutscenes or interactable events but it is what it is

[balmy storm]

I thought so lol

You can go up to them in the cathedral every
Week I think? For a little moment with them, which iirc unlocks the captura scene

You can get some neat lore from the scenes
(Though I don’t think Marie gives anything)

[hexed relic]

ahhh ok

ill give that a try

[glacial mist]

One day, when I opened the game, I received this error: "Please ensure that your firewall allows UDP ports 4950 & 4950." and this error is compatible with my settings 4950 & 4955 normally, but I can't send invitations to anyone.".....The tenno says your invitation to the player is not being delivered." What should I do?

[thick iron]

gettign 6 lazulite toroids is going to be the bane of my existence why is NOONE doing exploiter pls 😭

[fiery oyster]

hey so I've been waiting for a response from DE about my Roathe being softlocked - is there any point to waiting any longer? should I just reset now?

oh to add, nearly 2 months since I made the ticket

[tight pagoda]

It's worth resetting just so that you have his new dialogues about the reset

[fiery oyster]

fs

[tight pagoda]

And also so you can just skip straight to either ending

[fiery oyster]

I'd rather not reset cause I was 100% on the right track to redeeming the guy... so annoying

screw it, I'll reset

[tight pagoda]

Like instead of having to navigate the minefield of "RoatheRedeemed/RoatheVillain" there's a chat where you just have two options

I accidentally made him a villain there

[fiery oyster]

cool ty

I was deffo on track for redeemed

[tight pagoda]

Luckily for me you don't need to have him redeemed to do the Reunite Entrati thingy

[fiery oyster]

its cause its been so long now that I'm losing patience

[balmy storm]

I’d just wait to do anything with the triad tbh

It’s too buggy still :/

I can’t progress at all cause it thinks I don’t have rank 5 entrati

[fiery oyster]

I still find this funny

he's acting like we cant go down there and make him bend the knee to us..

cool, guess I'm waiting 45 minutes lol

[balmy storm]

I mean we
We can’t

The protoframes can boot us if they want to

[fiery oyster]

like our Void powers cant make him bend the knee? lol

[balmy storm]

No lol

[tight pagoda]

Clearly they don't want to— or rather, deep down they really like doing OnLyne dances

[fiery oyster]

oh come on, we're basically Gods lol

[balmy storm]

We are not lmao

[balmy storm]

Lmao

[fiery oyster]

well, I am 😛 - more Demi-God but still

[balmy storm]

OROKIN LEVEL EGO DETECTED
NIGHT OF THE NAGA DRUMS 2 STARTS NOW

[fiery oyster]

even my Uriel is showing off white hot power

[slow wedge]

I love the detail that Tenno tenses up when Ballas touches them

[fiery oyster]

ikr?

but I can imagine your reaction to seeing him though

[median edge]

Bite his finger

[balmy storm]

Bite it clean off

[fiery oyster]

god, that reveal was done so well

[shut hill]

What do I do if I completed a mission for a blueprint, didnt get the blueprint and cannot do the mission again (jordas precept potent pherliac pods)

[fiery oyster]

uhh, you should've gotten it - you checked Foundry?

[solid otter]

im still interested in the murmur sound in the track that plays there. we came to the conclusion that its just meaning a stronger wally presence

but still

interesting to hear yk

[fiery oyster]

yeah so I've reset but he's not telling me about the reset so what gives?

nevermind, current convo has him talking about ti

[balmy storm]

He do be rap tap tapping in our heads

[balmy storm]

Roathe will figure it out / kinda remember and Marie will mention it
Lyon’s got his own issues

[fiery oyster]

cool

I'll just play along with it

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-feel-that-thats-xata-xata-warframe-meme-gif-15531284589461707381

[thick iron]

i'm tired boss

now i have to collect all these random ahh parts for xaku..

[balmy storm]

Time for the bones

[thick iron]

how the hell do they want me to get this

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[twin citrus]

Light & Shadow.

I was playing around with lighting effects.

[twin citrus]

I still want to slap him.

[thick iron]

okay 2 more scintillant and i can finally build xaku

this is so annoying bruh

[balmy storm]

YOU’RE SO CLOSE TO THE BONES

[thick iron]

yo does anyone know if i abort a bounty after stage 1 do i still keep the reward??

[balmy storm]

You might if you leave the through the door to the hub, but I wouldn’t risk it tbh

[thick iron]

IT WORKS

[balmy storm]

YAY

[harsh otter]

Can anyone recommend some good/top dagger? The only one i have with build is Karyst (non-prime) with build i slapped back in 2018. I mostly use daggers when doing Cephalon affinity farm so more of a stealth killer with maybe some normal/heavy attacks potential

[balmy storm]

I believe the rumblejack fairs well as a dagger but I can’t really recommend a particular build

[thick iron]

please just 1 more scintillant DE i'm begging

does not feel like an 18% chance ngl

[dry dawn]

Just finished the finale, loved it

[balmy storm]

Your Drifter looks cool

[quick smelt]

I just love how the three protoframes our character will be by are the starter warframes

[balmy storm]

We use transference on all of them except for Lettie in the quest

Arthur twice, the start and end (omg we end as we began)
Aoi to help her with the reactor
Amir to help with the panic/anxiety attack
Quincy to help him find the tank weakspot
Eleanor with keeping her from going full techrot on Lettie

[obtuse gyro]

rakta dark dagger

combine with amalgam argonak

[tropic harness]

Hey, can I ask something in here?

I have a friend who has a really bad pregnancy trigger, but they want to do content that takes place after Jade Shadows.

Would I be able to log into their account and play it for them, or would that be against tos?

[obtuse gyro]

if you dont announce it to the world maybe

but also account sharing is kinda against ToS

but who knows sometimes folks travel

or even now: play on mobile

[tropic harness]

Yeah... We live nearby, so we've been trying to figure out a date/time to meet up in person.

[thick jolt]

yeah this one may actually work the safest

[obtuse gyro]

in that case just sit in their chair and play it for them lol

[tropic harness]

Well, the problem is that they live several hours away.

[thick jolt]

much safer than logging in different machines

[tropic harness]

Okay... It just sucks, because this is something that is making them want to quit Warframe, and I really don't want them to be completely turned off of a game that they love over this.

[solid otter]

Pregnancy trigger in what way, if i can ask?

As in the sight of pregnancy, or the idea of jade dying in pregnancy?

[tropic harness]

Pregnancy in general, honestly. The fact that it causes so many changes to someone's body... The idea of "popping out a wholeass person who didn't ask to be born", in their words.

There's a lot of trauma regarding it in their family.

[solid otter]

Mm. I can see that. Jade shadows was always weird for me too, for similar reasons

[tropic harness]

Yeah... Idk, maybe I'm just being a worry wart about this.

[solid otter]

I do think you can just skip it, iirc. Its a main quest but it doesnt yet have anything tied to it other than Jade

Mm, maybe tenet weapons? Or is that the sevagoth quest

[thick jolt]

sevagoth

[solid otter]

Theres not much pregnancy references post jade shadows either

Its literally just her

[tropic harness]

Yeah. They're just worried that they might end up having to play it in the future in order to access stuff.

[thick jolt]

maaaybe further stalker stuff in the distant future

but it is a sidequest for a reason

[tropic harness]

Yeah...

[solid otter]

Its probably gonna get shifted to the side quest area tbh

[thick jolt]

it already is

[solid otter]

Wait huh?

[median edge]

It's listed as a main quest to be fair

[solid otter]

Was it not put down as a main quest?

[thick jolt]

huh i must have missed another adjustment

[solid otter]

I think, it should be in the side quest area

They shafted Octavia's anthem, despite it being hunhow related and kinda important

[thick jolt]

or maybe i just got confused by rebb comparing it to veilbreaker

[solid otter]

Probably lol

[tropic harness]

I think it's because it uses a similar thing that New War does when you start it.

[median edge]

Yeah I appreciate the tw

[tropic harness]

The "type a confirmation in order to play the quest because it's long" thing

[solid otter]

Mm, maybe?

The hex does it too, actually

Duviri... really should if it doesnt

[median edge]

It's more bc it's sensitive content it's not v long tbh

[tropic harness]

Ah, I see... Thank you for the help.

[faint quiver]

Is it true that u can get umbra excal in Sacrifice quest for free?

[forest kiln]

Yes

[faint quiver]

Still available?

[solid otter]

Yeah lol

It will always be open

[tight pagoda]

It's a main story quest, Umbra is the reward

Don't rush

[faint quiver]

Oke imma read the mainquest and Side quest

[solid otter]

... its wrong. thats what. why is there an excalibur?

[uncut solar]

This is a screenshot fed through AI I'm pretty sure

[solid otter]

mm. figured as much.

[tight fulcrum]

Does Isle Weaver give pathos clamps?

[solid otter]

mhm.

[lofty girder]

they fookin whitewashed the scythe!

also the supras are missing their mags

[solid otter]

disgusting.

[inner shore]

My first prime in Warframe Excalibur umbra prime in mobile

[shadow forum]

Imagine in the tau we get a challenge that we must use the deimos clan dojo keys

[faint quiver]

I found something

So cute

[shadow forum]

Clem

[solid otter]

Popcorn is also around there

[undone lodge]

Popcorn’s the moai right

[fathom rapids]

Okay so are we gonna be bringing back Entrati and talking to the Deimos family? Because not only has Marie mentioned it but also the Devil (cannot remember his name) they are very keen on it.

[undone lodge]

Roathe

[shadow forum]

Have some questions why roathe mentioned lotus being manipulated by albrecht.

And why did he mentioned how will tenno fight in the tau.

[lofty girder]

Roathe is saying that the Lotus could potentially be compromised by wally

Frankly i call bull due to the fact that love is incredibly effective in repelling wally and the Lotus literally went against her own programming to protect the Tenno

[shadow forum]

so I made a good choice answer to roathe I wouldn't turn back on anyone.

Since wally is afraid of love,maybe we get better answers in the tau .

[humble dawn]

Ever since ballas opened up the void and lotus just stared at us after fighting off wally i haven't been able to trust her fully.

[solid otter]

I really hope so. As bad as Albrecht is [he's pretty normal in regards to his family ngl], he deserves to see his family. Reconciliation, perhaps. But Albrecht doesn't seem to be all too willing to uh. Live

[solid otter]

Moa, and yeah

The. The little guy !!!!!

[thick jolt]

the smoll

[harsh otter]

Is there some sort of list of Archwing enemies and if they have eximus variants? I wanted to retire my Astral Autopsy mod and the one list i found does not show whether the enemy has eximus variant or not

[undone lodge]

Should be one on the wiki

https://wiki.warframe.com

I couldn’t find anything that lists them altogether outright but there’s a section on the Archwing missions and you ahould just be able to go through that list and check the pages for which enemies each mission has

[harsh otter]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Category:Archwing_Enemies
I used this one but since it does not show if they have Eximus, i had to also help myself with this thing
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Codex

[fathom rapids]

Yeah, I feel like that quest will come soon though. A crazy quest in fact. Maybe around the time we fight the Indifference. Or Wally.

[solid otter]

Mm. Tau or post Tau, maybe.
-# the indifference is wally btw

[deft mist]

I think shes desperate and i dont think she knee about the deal or anything really

[fathom rapids]

I know I was saying that as a or his other name. Or their idk. And we will see. Something big is coming i can feel it.

[solid otter]

Tau is in sight, as he said. I do hope we actually get to see Albrecht again before Tau, bcs you know that shit is gonna be at the end of the year

We did not visually see any Albrecht all of last year

[quiet willow]

Anyone else get this issue where the hunhilis just doesn't spawn for specifically you in the second phase?

Everyone else is doing damage to it just fine but I can't do anything.

[solid otter]

It makes sense tho now, chronologically that.

Nevermind. What? Why did. Isleweaver. What help

[solid otter]

Mm, no. Havent seen it before, but it should just be fine if others can damage it. Just. Pretend to do shit lol

[quiet willow]

It's been happening pretty consistently for me. The ping for it on the map seems to still be at its ground arena for some reason

[shadow forum]

imagine they make fusion between warframes to become one, a strong one.

[floral hawk]

hows your ping to host? warframe recently gets very buggy if you have even a slightly worse ping
either way, oh well lol

[next imp]

redeemed Roathe

[floral hawk]

cute that loid believes we'll get upset if the Tales of Duviri book is misplaced

[quiet willow]

I mean it's a full stack perita rebellion it's gonna be bad.

[solid otter]

I think its more of a. "Oh no if this person reads the book that is mildly releated to their trauma shit will happen" deal. Cute that loid is concerned regardless

[next imp]

Loid is goated

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-loid-entrati-gif-2475787012030073166

[median edge]

He deserves better ngl

[solid otter]

Hes good character. Still, his hand in what happened to the cavia was shitty though

Mm. Maybe they can be horrible together.

[astral obsidian]

im doing whispers in the wall rn why the hell did ||arthur pull out meurilina on the 1st and 3rd move i think my game broke again and i cant stop laughing at that||

[tidal turret]

what was the Ballas quote in TNW ends in under her eye i believe... was one of Drifter's missions

[solid otter]

Oh my god 😭

[tidal turret]

the quote was from Chimera Prologue, my brain mixed up the quest names lol

"only suffering under her eye"

[solid otter]

Lmao

Dw we all do that

[thick iron]

building a nokko just to subsume the boi

i wouldn't mind doing the bounties again though if someone can actually tell me what he plays like and if he's like the goofy fun type of warframe

[floral hawk]

have we translated this? isleweaver thrax statue

[solid otter]

Mm. Lemme ask my friends rq

To the archives

[floral hawk]

thank you!

aforementioned statue

[solid otter]

Mm. You can get a decree there.

Shoudlve mentioned that

But there'll be a prompt to kneel, iirc you can do it in drifter if its not working as a warframe

[floral hawk]

oooo

[solid otter]

You also can get a trick too, iirc. Be..bonked by murmur I think

[floral hawk]

did not get me a decree, but i did get a sarcophagus

[solid otter]

Also it means "bend the knee"

Which apparently is on other thrax statues, but in normal orokin text?

[floral hawk]

ive seen! in the normal orokin text its "Bow" iirc?

[solid otter]

Maybe? I am generally relaying what the friends said, but I can ask

[faint quiver]

Ahhh man here we gooooo

[solid otter]

Heh.

Ballas on a leash

[faint quiver]

How to kill ballas

[solid otter]

Just wait for a bit.

[prime badger]

The story connection here is so well woven. Wonderful performance DE.

[fathom rapids]

For sure.

[warm anvil]

Litany of the Dax wooohooo

[ornate carbon]

honestly i wonder
is the only entrance and exit out of the sanctum atomica just through the building that mother and father live inside
like how would the lotus of all people with very long wires sticking out of her like braids manage to sneak into there

[thorn zephyr]

So, I understand that the Orokin; like Ballas and the Entrati family, have an elongated arm, but why is Roathe different? Is the elongated arm more like a genetic bloodline trait?

[solid otter]

No clue why Roathe doesn't, but you'll notice Albrecht doesnt either

[thorn zephyr]

hmm

[solid otter]

We know Albrecht just chose not to, so its probably just a personal choice

[hearty pendant]

they just modified their bodies to Do That
"shaped to match our generosity" or whatever tuvul was on about

[solid otter]

Easier for warzones, perhaps

[thorn zephyr]

"shaped to match our generosity" sounds a lot like performative activism on their part to cover up their malicious nature

[hearty pendant]

mhm
especially in the context of the quote, which i will find in a moment
if someone doesn't beat me to it

[obtuse gyro]

roathe had this revolutionary idea where if your arms are the same length, suddenly your physical balance especially during combat improves

[thorn zephyr]

Roathe is practical in that sense, which is something to admire, that and he wanted to reform the Orokin empire, so he couldn't be all bad

[hearty pendant]

"We stretched forth our Great Hands, shaped to match our generosity, and we gave. Such abundance! You citizens were to be the first to settle a new system! And now your bestial defiance has cast you into the pit. Come to those hands again, and you will find them closed to you."
in the zariman logs, which seem to be transmissions from tuvul to the people on the zariman
-# he abandons the project in the log after this one

[thorn zephyr]

damn (for a lack of a better word)

[solid otter]

Which is probably the same reason Albrecht never did it. Its impractical

[solid otter]

Reform it to his own desires. He isn't that different from other orokin. He expresses the wish to perform continuity again, and even while we don't like grineer, we wouldn't call them a slur like he does 😭
-# sorry for the double reply

[thorn zephyr]

you're okay

The lore has so many layers, and certain characters even have more layers

[solid otter]

Roathe is explicitly written to be that way, tbf

Except for the villain route. That just discards any piece of nuance he would ever have

He isn't good but flawed in any ending, but the villain one is particularly bad

[thorn zephyr]

At least Roathe is aware of his nature, some of the Orokin (Ballas and the Grineer Queens) would rather act upon their villainy without a thought of what it would do to others I think. idk still learning

[solid otter]

Thats a very down to earth and normal thing to think actually

Shows you have good media literacy

[hearty pendant]

yea, roathe's able to figure that out about himself through being removed from any power and system that had kept him that way
ballas still had access to the whole origin system, the queens are, arguably, in the most powerful position they've ever been in,
and roathe's stuck in a basement

[solid otter]

Alas..none of the same courtesy can ever be extended to Albrecht. Because he wasn't ever written for us to be sympathetic towards him

Which kinda sucked actually

I don't remember like. Any old KIMs that tried to give Albrecht any grace whatsoever

[thorn zephyr]

I think Albrecht was written forgoing empathy and replaced it with logic. no?

[hearty pendant]

most of them were 'he's pretty bad but he was probably the best orokin' at best

[solid otter]

Ehh, it was more of a "i have to forgoe empathy to be able to do this world saving thing", he never liked it

He never really wanted to do it, yk? He is haunted by the choices he made

And before someone says thats him manipulating us, he echoes this sentiment in his notes. Something that we are never supposed to read.

[hearty pendant]

-# tbh i forgot he even says that during the hex lol

[solid otter]

-# I forget a lot of his lines in the hex

God I wish we had more Loid content actually

I was mildly pissed that they allowed Marie to learn of Loid's childhood, a mf loid just met, but not us

[thorn zephyr]

If we get more Loid in Shadowgrapher, I am sure you'll be the first to know 🙂

[solid otter]

I absolutely would be

Im the fella that predicted the Loid KIM

Do not test me DE im a feral bastard

[thorn zephyr]

Honestly a scene with the Operator, Loid, and Lotus watching scary movies with pepperoni pizza and cola would be neat.

[solid otter]

Almost 1:1 of exactly what happened too just using a default account over Albrecht's

[solid otter]

Family time with space mum and the gay uncle

[hearty pendant]

-# even then, albrecht set up the lab's network, so it still kinda counts

[solid otter]

Or. Is he step-granddad given his position in the family as Euleria's sorta second father

[solid otter]

Im so scarily right sometimes, I wonder if DE was listening/j

[thorn zephyr]

DE is always listening (i think)

[solid otter]

Im still upset that we don't have roundtable floofs though

Let me have the pile of Flare floofs DE you cowards

[solid otter]

They're listening. They're whispering. Perhaps they're... whispering in the walls

[hearty pendant]

at least sometimes
Juice popped in here once to tell us kimulacrum wasn't going to work with the triad

[solid otter]

So we all know Loid is making the floofs too right? What possessed the man to make a Roathe floof?

Maybe out of "well i made the other two"

[solid otter]

That lasted for soooo long

[hearty pendant]

it wasn't wrong per se, the existing method didn't work for the triad
but it only took a day to get a new one up, so

[solid otter]

I wonder why they felt the need to change the kim system the way they did

[astral obsidian]

i was browsing my medal and i got a clip of this so
|| https://medal.tv/games/warframe/clips/mgcJcDkoGruRzj7ql?invite=cr-MSxHZWosMzI5NzY5OTE ||

[solid otter]

It somehow managed to ruin everything else

[solid otter]

Oh weird yeah thats the prime one too

Thats. Really weird 😭

Like. As in ive never seen a warframe's ability be messed up like that

[astral obsidian]

i did have yareli prime equipped so my best guess is that it tried to pull the blade but it counts merulina as yareli's exalted weapon so it freaked out??
but exalted blade worked fine, skills were still broken though so idk 😭
I'd like to note thats not even my merulina colors lmfao

[hearty pendant]

best guess is that it's due to swapping your frame mid-mission?

[solid otter]

Well then. Whispers got borked in more ways than I imagined

Oh yeah, grey is that still messed up for you?

I wanna replay whispers again because I have been made aware of unique Loid anims that play

[hearty pendant]

i was able to progress whispers while on android, not sure about other platforms
didn't run into another bug or anything, just took a break and haven't gone back to finish it yet

[solid otter]

Sick. Not like I need to go to the triad again

Maybe replaying the old peace would fix it perhaps

Time to finish this Ultrakill level and replay whispers

[floral hawk]

that is messed up and evil ur just using them like a paddle to whack people with

the poor thang 😭

[uncut solar]

Would Lizzie have her own?

[solid otter]

Tiny Lizzie floof.....

[uncut solar]

No-no, floof sized

[solid otter]

Shed bite Loid's head off if she wasn't included

[uncut solar]

Like how they did for Dagath's horse

[solid otter]

But how will flare hold her!

[uncut solar]

But how would Dagath ride the small horse

Lizzie can have a properly sized floof

As a treat

[solid otter]

She can have two maybe, one with flare and their proportions, and a floof sized one that says things

[uncut solar]

Floof with a voice box

[solid otter]

The ticker floof has one!

[uncut solar]

Pinnacle of technology

[uncut solar]

Oh, didn't know that

Then nothing is stopping them

[solid otter]

Yea, and she gets like

Super big for some reason

Bigger than the nihil toob

[floral hawk]

radahn style

[uncut solar]

She can float, I suppose that works

[solid otter]

Also chat ive been made aware of. Some of Albrecht's scribbles on the walls and

[floral hawk]

the missing face is weight reduction enough

[solid otter]

They're kinda concerning yk

[uncut solar]

What do they say?

[solid otter]

Mm. That he should go on antischizophrenia meds.

Lemme get a good screenie

... after I finish 8-3

[willow jay]

Oh, they were translated?

[solid otter]

Some. Not all.

"Forget." Is one, iirc

[solid otter]

IM SORRY

IM SORRY HOLD ON

Did