spoiler-chat

[rain dew]

Can I have back the 15 seconds it took to look up this dumb meme?

[bright meteor]

you will see that is where the darkness will lie

[bronze beacon]

Reset the index? How?

[bronze beacon]

Oh it’s lying alr

[last snow]

Have you killed Nef???

[bright meteor]

sentient nef anyo npc being added into the perren sequence will make dark neptune asscesible for ps5 players

[fathom nexus]

I wish

[bronze beacon]

Ykw just

[bright meteor]

bro js spoiled the greatest moment in dark neptune

[last snow]

Once you kill Nef anyo you get the dark Neptune side quest

[bronze beacon]

Just tell me how to not make Lyon crash out

[last snow]

It’s spoiler chat

[bright meteor]

rizz up marie

[bronze beacon]

Done

[last snow]

rizz up Marie with dark neptune

[bright meteor]

text him on the pc

[bronze beacon]

Yeah alr

[last snow]

Take her to my neptune

[bright meteor]

once he starts texting you you can talk to him

he sells furniture and stuff

[obtuse gyro]

really! I cant log on, surely you can do it for me

[bronze beacon]

Yeah ik but like he’s

[last snow]

I think theltakinglegend made a video on this

[obtuse gyro]

no

I dont want a video, I want you to do it for me

[bronze beacon]

Read this thingy majigy whozawatzit

[obtuse gyro]

You're in game for the past 7 minutes, go on go to fortuna

[bronze beacon]

Ykw gang

I’ll do it

[obtuse gyro]

pick what you want ngl

affirm or deny his faith

[last snow]

Doing now

[bronze beacon]

Idk if it’ll feel like lying to him or not

Bc idk

[obtuse gyro]

nah dude, if you dont know, he dont know

[bright meteor]

guys ive just found some more evidence for dark neptune ill @ u in it in 5 minutes

[bronze beacon]

So we just decide his faith?

[obtuse gyro]

you get to choose if he believes in Lua or not

[obtuse gyro]

lowkey yea

[bronze beacon]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan this sucks

Objectively speaking, it was definitely rell and harrow

But I’d be denying religion existing in the game

And on the other hand, I’m sending this guy straight back to the religion that makes him thwack himself

actually that makes denying it feel a lil better

[obtuse gyro]

I mean the religion exists

up to you to express if you think that the contents of said religion exists

[undone lodge]

He’ll do that anyway

[bronze beacon]

Bweh.

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah the flaggelation is unrelated to religion

[undone lodge]

It’s not that the religion specifically makes him do the thwacking, that’s just a method that he and the others use to snap themselves out of it when they have an episode

I’d just say go for the “Maybe” option

Let him decide for himself later

[bronze beacon]

There’s no maybe option, either “sorry bout that” or “HEAR ME OUT, GOD MADE YOU ALMOST KILL YOUR PARENTS”

Anyway I chose the sorry one

Aaaaaand now roathe is using Sheldon terminology to ask about Marie

What the helly

[rustic tree]

Bazinga?

[valid folio]

I KNOW EXACTLY THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

"I'm begging to know, does she deliver homilies* during coitus?"

*Homilies = sermons/prayers (to save you the Google search)

[red egret]

theres a funny bug i found during my run of sneaky sabotage (kahl mission)
at the end where you fight the spider boss: if you kill it and it kills you at the same time, when you respawn you can just immediately extract

[broken shuttle]

aw hell nah ballas making me type in my password

you know Im beating his ass

[opaque dove]

Fetch me his soul

[red egret]

why is ballas phishing

[broken shuttle]

is he supposed to be preparing for a proctor exam or what

[pure merlin]

What an handsome fella

Surely he never comitted any war crimes

[opaque dove]

Not a single one~!

[broken shuttle]

this dude fr mussolini

[opaque dove]

Nah, he’s worse

[red egret]

just imagine they reveal a character worse than ballas

[pure merlin]

Like, Nitohk 👀

[red egret]

nah nah

[opaque dove]

I think she’s dead

[red egret]

narmer deacons

🥹

[pure merlin]

I haven't seen any body, yet 👀

[red egret]

all narmer deacons are spiritually israeli

[opaque dove]

Major pains, they see you once, and you’re cooked

[red egret]

dude in sneaky sabotage once they catch you, you just lose immediately

[pure merlin]

The veil is great, embrace the veil

[opaque dove]

Never!

[red egret]

can we get a narmer deacon extermination

i think that’d fix me

[pure merlin]

There's deacons in descendia, I don't even think you can harm them

[red egret]

roathe needs to stop being a loser and let us kill them

[pure merlin]

Well it's some sort of memory, meaning Roathe was probably never able to kill those guys either 👀

[red egret]

the hate for deacons is generational 🥹

[pure merlin]

Their design is mad cool tho

[red egret]

agreed

i like that you can stun them in kahl missions

oh wait you can kill them with the orbital laser

[pure merlin]

They'll stay gods in my head

[red egret]

booting up sneaky sabotage just to kill every deacon

[pure merlin]

Need more lore on deacons

[red egret]

roathe hates ballas solely because he made the deacons

[pure merlin]

We need Bird 3 as the new leader

[red egret]

“Squawk! Reprogrammed the deacons! Made a new warframe.. Narmer Warframe 😈😈”

[pure merlin]

For Narmer

[red egret]

for narmer

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ballas-warframe-narmer-gif-24413311

[red egret]

i can see what lotus saw in him

[pure merlin]

Honestly Roathe looks a million times better than Ballas 👀

[red egret]

they should just kiss

how would nokko prime exist lore wise

“Yes, we found a random child underneath Fortuna. Yes we turned him gold. Why do you ask?”

[pure merlin]

I don't know much about the process of priming a warframe

But maybe because of Nightcap ? 👀

[red egret]

“Yeah mate, I know how to prime warframes.”
wait a minute… rips open nightcaps grate
oh my god hes an orokin!

[pure merlin]

or the Sprodlings did a disney princess thingy, picked up gold and added it to Nokko

[red egret]

i love nightcap so much

i convinced my friend to spend the rest of his savings on the nokko premium pack

[pure merlin]

Should have convinced him to get the sprodling floof from Makeship too 👀

[red egret]

🫡

i also have temples

[pure merlin]

Based

[red egret]

my friend gave me the money to buy him ash prime of all frames

[pure merlin]

Ash is greaaaat

[red egret]

on everyones souls we’re all running loki prime

[opaque dove]

We? Who’s we?

[red egret]

we as in me you and all the other million registered users

[pure merlin]

I'd rather use Inaros 👀

[red egret]

on everyones souls we’re running prime corpse

[rain otter]

Loki is

So old dawg.

[red egret]

loki is the best frame in the game

same with banshee

[rain otter]

He needs help.

[red egret]

loki never getting that rework

[pure merlin]

Banshee needs a looot of help too

[red egret]

loki rework where his invisibility works by summoning a clone that distracts enemies and it turns you invisible for the entire duration

[uncut solar]

Idk, loki has invisibility and extremely strong Decoy

He has all that you could possibly need to work

[rain otter]

Your describing what if he was broken Octavia.

[uncut solar]

And Banshee just has 1 garbage ability

[rain otter]

Banshee needs some help. She's the most requested rework for a reason.

[uncut solar]

People talk about "needing help" and then they're running low efficiency low range caster Lavos

[rain otter]

Ember also needs help.

[uncut solar]

Ember definitely needs help

[rain otter]

Lavos is fine.

[red egret]

i wish we got more tomes

[uncut solar]

That's not my point

[rain otter]

Good even.

[red egret]

i think theres only two in game

[uncut solar]

My point is that people don't know what theyre doing and asking for help because rooms aren't getting nuked

[red egret]

the grimore and the new focus school one

[rain otter]

Then make a better point Box.

[rain otter]

That's not what i said.

[uncut solar]

Loki is perfectly fine

[rain otter]

No hes not.

[red egret]

loki was made for an old era

[uncut solar]

What does he need?

[rustic tree]

Loki so fine 🤤

[rain otter]

He's very old and everything he does is done better.

[cerulean kiln]

There’s literally a better Loki out there

Ask Odin to rework him

[rain otter]

Okay so make his 4 do something impactful his vision can stay the same give him a good passive and like make decoy a long range roller ball. Also make teleport not be able to grief and make lethal teleport built in.

[red egret]

i hate that l and k are right next to eachother, im trying to type loki and not make the biggest freudian slip of my life

[rain otter]

We did it.

[night zephyr]

poor hammerhead

[cosmic crypt]

hey everyone !
I'm new to this server, and played warframe on and off for a few years, and finally catched up with the lore
I have some questions about the lore and I hope you'll be willing to enlighten me 🙏
what's up with the orokin bodies ? As I understand, Margulis wasn't an orokin but served them, so she was human when she was an archimedean ?
and what about Albrecht ? He should be an orokin, and we see him in "orokin form" in some paintings, but we see him as human in the quests
I don't know if it's explained "yet", I don't mind spoilers from secondary sources that I might not explored yet
thanks 🙏

[uncut solar]

I can only really agree on his 4 needing something more impactful, good passives are dime a dozen and his actually has a bit more use than most

[lofty girder]

Orokin are human

[uncut solar]

And decoy will pay the augment tax with damage decoy

Like even the new frames have to

[lofty girder]

Just, with enough cosmetic surgery and gene editing to make the Bogdanoff brothers jealous

[karmic grail]

The orokin look you know (blue, black hair, big arms...) is a fashion statement done by bio engineering their bodies

[solid otter]

Albrecht whitewashed himself to blend in, Margulis was just a human loke other orokin

ORHTER. SHES NOT ONE TO BE CLEAR

[lofty girder]

Albrecht's current human form is his most recent and last body. The blue skin portraits where before he walked into the void and basically got flayed alive by the edge of reality

[solid otter]

I cant

[uncut solar]

Orhter...

[karmic grail]

Entrati at some point stopped joining the trend

[solid otter]

Speak

[lofty girder]

Orhter

[solid otter]

Erm achtually that portrait is after

[uncut solar]

He decided to go blue for a while

[lofty girder]

Da ba dee da be da

[solid otter]

The portrait is after bcs it has void scarring. Idk how well you can see it but theres blue shit around his eyes, where the void blinded him

[red egret]

can we get the husbands to reunite

[solid otter]

We don't know yet

[red egret]

it needs to happen

[karmic grail]

Absolutely

[solid otter]

I hope they will. I hope they kiss so the idiots who think they're not gay get shut down

[uncut solar]

They kiss and Entrati explodes

[solid otter]

Bcs somehow people don't think that Loid is gay.

Somehow.

Huge levels of denial

[karmic grail]

"My albrecht..."

[red egret]

they kiss and the leverian guy kills them both because he developed a homophobic view on the world after his boyfriend dante mysteriously died

[uncut solar]

Don't you know

They were roommates

[karmic grail]

-Loid

[solid otter]

More than one person said they're father and son, so.

[undone lodge]

“Tortured love poetry”, “My Albrecht/Loid”. The Pose

Yeah no totally platonic

[karmic grail]

Historians will look at this and say "they were close friends"

[undone lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[red egret]

theres a literal historian who lives with loid

[undone lodge]

Roommates during their time in the labs

[pure merlin]

God no, need Loid to move on from this jerk

[karmic grail]

"they were close friends"

[solid otter]

Albrecht laying on his bed n kicking his feet as he gayly describes Loid's eyes

[undone lodge]

No? They had like, one relationship issue, during the most stressful and traumatic period of Albrecht’s life

[solid otter]

No clearly you should break up with someone when they're going through a traumatic event

And show no empathy

Clearly.

[uncut solar]

They deserve reconciliation, but also Albrecht deserves to explode shortly after

[undone lodge]

It’s not even that bad of an issue. Like it’s a very tame and reasonable one on both ends, relative to what it could be

[solid otter]

They struggle with communication

[cosmic crypt]

love the debate (they're totally gay)
thanks for your answers !
so Orokin are humans that gone through bio engineering just to look cool except they suck
and Albrecht portrait should be explained by eternalism theory if it didn't do the blue stuff yet lmao

[undone lodge]

No eternalism

[uncut solar]

He did the blue stuff

[solid otter]

Something common with people with complex traumatic experiences

[cerulean kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jessie-jesse-walter-white-gif-18718878

[red egret]

Marie: “Loid, take care of your children!”
Bird 3: “Yeah Dad!”
Tagfur: “Cmon Dad, lets do something together!”
Loid: “Zzz..”
Alberecht: “I’m gay, let’s write poetry.”
Loid: “Yes, Alberecht.”

[solid otter]

Nah, Albrecht probably just turned his skin white. Or stole a person, whatever is funnier

[uncut solar]

He unblued himself for 1999

[cosmic crypt]

ok it's reversable, got it 👌

[pure merlin]

I didn't mention this character, I simply said Loid needs to move on

[cerulean kiln]

It’s basically skin paint

[solid otter]

Albrecht just stealing shit constantly is so funny to me

[red egret]

blany we’re turning you blue

[pure merlin]

Albrecht doesn't deserve him

[uncut solar]

They have access to extreme body modification with scifi levels of "limitations" so yeah

You can even buy a refacia kit in-game that is just an injector to change your skin color to blue

[red egret]

blueny

[cosmic crypt]

please don't 😢

[undone lodge]

They suck, but some suck a bit less to varying degrees, like the pre-Infestation Entrati and Roathe

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht ain’t worthy of Loid yet Loid wants to be worthy of Albrecht

[uncut solar]

Unblueing yourself shouldn't be a problem

[undone lodge]

(Or green or purple)

Also IIRC he’s actually still “blue”

[pure merlin]

Pretty sure he's insanely mad at him right now and doesn't care to be worthy of him anymore

[solid otter]

He probably stole cars, atomicycles, helminth serums. Also probably committed tax fraud

[undone lodge]

Just a really pale white option in the blue palette

[uncut solar]

Very pale, at least

[solid otter]

Erm green actually

[undone lodge]

Ah

[uncut solar]

He's just sickly pale

[karmic grail]

Hes albrecht color

[undone lodge]

Mouldy skin

[solid otter]

Shout out to the orokin archives

Slightly green

With. Purple lips. For some reason

[karmic grail]

Albrecht goblin theory

[solid otter]

I love it tho, iconic

[balmy storm]

I hope Nitokh is purple

[solid otter]

I hope so too

Let karrish be green >:)

[cerulean kiln]

How did Albrecht go from white eyes to blue eyes?

[solid otter]

Contacts or a retcon

[red egret]

he felt like it

[undone lodge]

Troll Karrish

[solid otter]

Both are sad. I hate it.

[balmy storm]

Contacts
Alternatively
They’re Orokin???

[solid otter]

He looks uncanny now, but in a bad way

[karmic grail]

Orokin mumbo jumbo

[balmy storm]

Bio-editting goes brrr

[cerulean kiln]

Tbh it looks creepier in white than blue

[balmy storm]

They dye their skin blue, they’re not limited to their eyes being one color or their hair always being the same lol

[undone lodge]

He survives Grendel somehow and has to live under a bridge, eating the cervulites that broke out of the wildlife preserve when they pass over

[solid otter]

Its supposed to look uncanny when white, but theres a difference between that and the weird blue eyes

[balmy storm]

The Orokin are masters of biology, especially when it comes to aesthetics

[solid otter]

I liked that you could tell he was an orokin via the white eyes

[karmic grail]

They listened to "im blue da ba dee da ba da" once and decided "yep. Thats the one. Thats the new fashion norm."

[cerulean kiln]

You could tell he was an Orokin by his outfit

[balmy storm]

I do think it probably started out something like this
Just one Orokin being dumb and oop it caughr on

[uncut solar]

Orokin sharpie bath

[solid otter]

Foul reference

[balmy storm]

Orokin sharpie bath

[karmic grail]

His name was John Orokin or something

Trust

[cerulean kiln]

Think if I threw a blue Orokin in a bath the blue skin would become a normal skin tone

[undone lodge]

Andrew whatever was one of the ORO guys

[balmy storm]

No
Blue itself isn’t negative so they don’t cancel out into a positive

If anything you just get a bluer Orokin
Twice the ego

[undone lodge]

His successor made a joke about the baths and one of the lower Orokin took it seriously and it caught on from there

[uncut solar]

"why the hell not?" Said an orokin once

[cerulean kiln]

Watch DE make the next Villain, Nitohk

[undone lodge]

Orokin hair started because someone wore their child’s arts and crafts project as wig to a party once trust

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[balmy storm]

Maybe after the Tau Arc
Or do you think it’d be during

Technically she was a villain during the Old Peace

[uncut solar]

I wouldn't mind Nitohk but please no protoframe bs with her

Roathe is sort of a unique case

And all people can think about is protoframes now. Protoframes this protoframes that protoframe Loid into Limbo protoframe Alad V into Vauban

Protoframe psyop is real and my tinfoil hat is protecting me from it

Unlike those sickos who are into humans, I prefer faceless biomechanical creatures

Give her Garuda as a bodyguard

[cerulean kiln]

Garuda as a bodyguard would be in line

And finally a reason to get lore

[uncut solar]

Rebb said "garuda lore 2026"

[cerulean kiln]

Let’s hope Rebb doesn’t do a Steve

[lofty girder]

Schizo ramblings ; Nitokh had a daughter, she's Garuda protoframe

[uncut solar]

I am going to eat you

[karmic grail]

😨

[lofty girder]

Me eats you whole

[uncut solar]

They were supposed to be a cool gimmick but now it's becoming a staple apparently

[cerulean kiln]

If it is Nitohk how do you think Nitohk survived the purge?

[solid otter]

Id only accept proto loid if its a one off case, hes gonna get infested no doubt

[uncut solar]

Also because his suit would fit the prime

[solid otter]

Mhm

Like its so obvious

[uncut solar]

Protecting him from the indifference thanks to the rift

[solid otter]

We can forgoe the hat tho. Let Loid's glasses serve as the hat in the idles

[uncut solar]

Hid on a private tuvul island on Tau or something

Ballas survived somehow, she can always do that too.

[cerulean kiln]

Hiding on Tau is actually a fair reason for survival

Since it was Origin we killed the Orokin

[red egret]

prime necraloid

[cerulean kiln]

Necraloid is already Prime

[lofty girder]

Necraloid but he has a necramech with a custom slot

[undone lodge]

Super secret private Void Tower

One for each of the Executors

[uncut solar]

This was her life for hundreds of years

[uncut solar]

All that Entrati tech is kinda already in it's "prime" form

[gray orchid]

I reaaaaaaaaaaally wanna see what "Nitohk faction" aesthetic would look like

[cerulean kiln]

You can

[uncut solar]

I imagine it would mostly be just "orokin"

But let her brew in a secluded place for ages

Who knows

[gray orchid]

That isn't quite what I mean, I don't mean just her, I meant her house, so to speak. Her soldiers, underlings, etc etc. There's definitely certain guidelines that a proper orokin would follow at large, but I have a sense the "house" of each one has a different aesthetic language

[uncut solar]

Yes I understand what you mean

We don't really have a point of reference

Ballas always had the generic orokin gold with him

And then Narmer I guess? But that isn't really a "house"

[red egret]

prime otak

[gray orchid]

Indeed indeed, it's a whole open world of exicting possibilitiesss...and I want to see them. Shovel them all into my brain like sugar in coffee

[cerulean kiln]

I doubt her soldiers wore clothes matching her and Orokin homes just use regular Orokin colours

[uncut solar]

In either case it would be new, because Ballas had a plan that uprooted everything and we didn't really have a "make orokin great again" villain

[red egret]

we need more otak lore

[cerulean kiln]

What I like about Ballas is he wasn’t your typical tragic backstory villain

[uncut solar]

They give him a bit more background and it's just more of him being evil

[gray orchid]

Just a needy, controlling, love-insecure man babby

[cerulean kiln]

So many villains in media now are just I’m a bad guy but this caused me to be a bad guy

[uncut solar]

It's either tragic backstory or evil superman

I hate cynical writing

[cerulean kiln]

Actually has DE ever done tragic backstory villains yet?

[gray orchid]

to be more serious, I'd love to know more about who he was. like, how was the social mobility? sounds like there's some glass ceilings in orokin heirarchy, so he must've been high born to begin with...but what was that growing up like, was he always schemey and manipulative? was he once just a relatively normal dude as far as high born blue people go?

but also you can be born/raised relatively normal and still be a narcissist manipulative no-thanks-bye kinda person so

[uncut solar]

Nef Anyo just wanted to be loved by his dad

[red egret]

nef anyo prime

[cerulean kiln]

Totally didn’t try to take his dads company

[red egret]

does albrecht count 🤔

[uncut solar]

There's not just tragic backstory

[cerulean kiln]

We don’t really know Albrechts backstory just a small part of his story

[uncut solar]

Everything attached to him before, now and forward is tragedy

[uncut solar]

I'm sure if not for the silly face mask Parvos would've been proud of his son stealing his way to success

[red egret]

we need alad v to come back

[uncut solar]

But Parvos already had dibs on it so

[cerulean kiln]

Alad V did come back for New War

[red egret]

which is years old at this point

[uncut solar]

They confirmed he survived New War at least

[red egret]

prime alad v

[uncut solar]

We are awaiting the return of the plot armor king

[red egret]

we need that operation of alad v vs nef anyo to get a sequel

[cerulean kiln]

DE have shown him so much they don’t want to show him again

[uncut solar]

Not even Stalker, not even Narmer, not even Infestation, not even Tenno could take him

[cerulean kiln]

Actually I have just realised DE don’t really give backstories at all just small parts of a character’s story so they can expand later

[red egret]

nef anyo backstory

we need more nef anyo

DE reveals that they’re making index 2 😈

[cerulean kiln]

Index Prime that gives 1 mil credits per run

[red egret]

fr

nef anyo prime

is it bad that i really like nef anyo and think he’s interesting and cool

[cerulean kiln]

I enjoy him suffering from depression to being homeless

[gray orchid]

Nef just needs a good group of buddies to actually properly chill with and shed the corpocash cult vibes . maybe someday he'll join the pizza party on the couch

[balmy storm]

Stalker?

[cerulean kiln]

True

[balmy storm]

Wally if you count his finger ig
But we don’t really know his full backstory

[uncut solar]

If there's even any beyond what happened with Albrecht

[cerulean kiln]

DE not giving backstories is a good thing

Allows for new lore

[uncut solar]

Allows for non destructive retroactive continuity

[cerulean kiln]

DE rarely do actual retcons yet players insist Warframe has a ton of retcons

[uncut solar]

Idk the way people treat the word retcon is a bit one sided

[obtuse gyro]

assuming they use the word right in the first place

[uncut solar]

Yeah

Warframe "retconned" a lot I imagine. With the overall change of the game's direction

But it's not the meaning of "retcon" that most people throw around

There's a lot of continuity added to the past that changes the overall context and whatever

[cerulean kiln]

You have people calling Infestation first a retcon because DE gave us the Infestation came first thing despite nothing saying it didn’t come first

[uncut solar]

It is by definition a retcon

[obtuse gyro]

which yknow is par for the course of worldbuilding

[uncut solar]

The entirety of old peace is a retcon

But again people just throw words

[cerulean kiln]

Players use retcon wrong

[uncut solar]

DE had the advantage of most of the setting being largely faceless early on

[cerulean kiln]

DE expand on existing lore to give us new info but not many times is it an actual retcon

[uncut solar]

Warhammer had that too but then Horus Heresy happened

[cerulean kiln]

Many times it is honestly players taking wiki at face value

[obtuse gyro]

actually isnt there some bar to clear to be an actual retcon?

like surely worldbuilding cant just all be retcon

[uncut solar]

Retcon is just retroactive continuity. Adding more to change and develop context to things that happened before for the current story to progress

[obtuse gyro]

wait no there is a bar! It needs to break continuity!

[cerulean kiln]

For something to be an actual retcon something prior has to be disproven buy new info

[uncut solar]

Yeah

Like the whole tau part

[cerulean kiln]

That’s not a retcon though

[obtuse gyro]

wait nevermind, thats not for all types of retcons

[obtuse gyro]

eh?

[uncut solar]

I was making a joke sorry

[cerulean kiln]

We’ve known we went to Tau for years

[uncut solar]

It didn't land

Either way the term has lost all meaning in the eyes of most people

[cerulean kiln]

There’s definitely players that assume it’s a retcon

[uncut solar]

It happened before the current story and has significance = retcon

Jade shadows was a retcon

[cerulean kiln]

They’d have to call the intro cinematic a retcon with that logic

[uncut solar]

"it was made by a different studio they didn't know what they were doing"

[cerulean kiln]

They certainly didn’t think lore accurate

DE should’ve told them the lore prior

[red egret]

nef anyo prime

[fringe pond]

It’s because some people are convinced that the Orokin CREATED the infestation when that’s not even true

[uncut solar]

I created it

[fringe pond]

Why’d you do that

[uncut solar]

Lonely

[fringe pond]

L

[uncut solar]

Onely

[fringe pond]

Hehehe

[red egret]

i created the orokin cos i was js bored

[fringe pond]

Bro made Ball Ass
Can’t believe you’d do this

[uncut solar]

Death by impalement

[red egret]

ballas 🤤

[cerulean kiln]

They’re convinced because they took wiki at face value

[fringe pond]

Wack

[uncut solar]

Wait

What is there about it on the wiki?

That can be taken like this?

@rose jay SHOW YOURSELF

[fringe pond]

It could have been an old iteration
Cause now it points out that the game’s lore is presented ambiguously
It’s possible that it was written differently before 1999

Found it

[zenith jacinth]

In older days the awakening quest was less clear about the infestation being OLD

[fringe pond]

“During the Orokin Era, before the Old War, the Infestation was created from the Orokin Empire’s technological advances in biotechnology”

A quote from a year old comment

The comment asking if this was ever actually confirmed

[uncut solar]

Oh

[fringe pond]

So whoever wrote that made some severe assumptions

[fringe pond]

Yeah there’s several comments pointing out that it’s weird

Im glad they changed it but
Misinformation jumpscare unfortunately

[undone lodge]

Technically Roathe

[cerulean kiln]

Is Roathe really tragic though as I’ve heard he took it willingly

[undone lodge]

What

Oh you mean him being a proto

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[undone lodge]

I’m talking about how Roathe’s KIM shows us how all the Orokin who went to boarding schools were severely abused and neglected, raised into their toxic mindsets and society forcefully

And that this was presumably close enough to the childhood at least some Orokin children could expect

Stalker wasn’t an Orokin

[deft mist]

Wrong reply

[undone lodge]

Ah

[cerulean kiln]

lol

Was definitely meant for me

[deft mist]

Yeah

My bad

[cerulean kiln]

See I can see the future

[deft mist]

No

[cerulean kiln]

Problem is with Stalker is we don’t actually have a lot of his backstory just bits of his later story

he was already an adult that was serving the Orokin by the time we got any lore on him

DE still haven’t really told us much about his childhood type backstory

[deft mist]

Still a tragic charecter its just not well fleshed out

[cerulean kiln]

I said tragic backstory villain

It really depends how far you consider something a backstory with Stalker

[deft mist]

Who knows

[cerulean kiln]

Roathe I definitely agree with as he was an Orokin who did swap bodies via clericy and does have the backstory from when he was a child

DE doesn’t give us much time as a child that shaped them to who they are backstories just usually what they did when they became an adult stories

[deft mist]

He honestly sounds like he regrets some of his body changes

Like the one where he was dying in the war and one of his soldiers drank the kuva

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[deft mist]

I think the character regrets it its just he still has to be the tough guy but little cracks open

[fringe pond]

On the Vector Shield wiki page

Of course the corpus have a shield that can cause cancer

[deft mist]

🤣

[obtuse gyro]

isnt that the weird stationary turret thing?

[fringe pond]

No it’s the holographic shield

[obtuse gyro]

the ball one?

actually just drop an image

[cerulean kiln]

Time to jump into it to see what happens

[deft mist]

That fun

[obtuse gyro]

For a cancer shield it sure doesnt last long

[cerulean kiln]

Think Operators can even get ill from jumping into it?

[undone lodge]

Nah, already got all that Void radiation

[uncut solar]

Oh don't worry they'll feel it later

[undone lodge]

A bit more other radiation’ll be fine

[pastel pasture]

My nitokh theory is holding water

Garuda lore this year

Tau this year

🤔

[uncut solar]

I beg no garuda protoframe

Please just make it Nitohk and her faithful garuda nuke servant

[pure merlin]

Nitokh but she survived by attaching some of Garuda's parts to her, like if she lost an arm or a leg during the war but can't use Garuda's abilities

[uncut solar]

She has a superweapon that is just Garuda strapped to an energy source

Charging a blood ball for millennia

[pure merlin]

And what happens when the blood ball releases ? 👀

[pastel pasture]

I'd take a garuda protoframe but like. not KIM and not our friend

Maybe Nitokh found out about what happened to Roathe, made her own serum

Orokin empire collapsed, Kuva too hard to get to keep up, decided being part warframe was the onlyw ay to keep doing what she wanted to do (kill people)

also appernetly next devstream is going to have the new warframe

[pure merlin]

Wait really ??

[pastel pasture]

that's what I read

[pure merlin]

Would you mind sharing where you've read it ? I'm curious

[pastel pasture]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1qj05fp/dev_short_86_key_points_day_late_edition/

there's also apperently bad news coming and i agree with the commentor who said its about wall running

We've already been told there's been troubles

already been told that wall running was removed for a very good reason

soooo im guessing dev team has thrown their hands up and said "yeah this isn't working"

[pure merlin]

Damn, I caught all this during the devshort but didn't hear the part about the new warframe

[pure merlin]

That's sad, wish it would have made it back into the game, but if it can't, it can't

[pastel pasture]

If it is canned i'm guessing that adding wallrunning at this point would require like

months of dedicated work rewriting code

that wallrunning is just incompatible with the game itself

[pure merlin]

It seemed to worked soo well back when they showed it in tennocon

But guess you're right

[pastel pasture]

cherry picked maybe?

they showed off the locations it worked really well

[pure merlin]

Maybe yeah

[fringe pond]

Maybe it screws up on certain walls yeah

Don’t mind my 3 typos in a row

[pastel pasture]

I'd accept better wall latching

like if a cliff requires a double bullet jump to ascend. I don't like having to do precise wall jumps to get my 2nd bullet jump

[pure merlin]

Maybe the only wall stuff we're gonna get this year is Wally 😔

[pastel pasture]

the bad news is they are shutting warframe down

"yeah sorry. just not feelin it anymore"

game closes 2 weeks later

[hallow wharf]

😪

Tragic

[pure merlin]

The way people would go absolutely fibbling insane

[pastel pasture]

i mean i'd be bummed because i never got MR30

and also i've spent money on this game 😔

[pure merlin]

Start the grind now, just in case

[pastel pasture]

joking aside I think this game has a very long life left

[uncut solar]

KUVA JAVLOK PLS

[pastel pasture]

I think the warning signs of server closure would be end of development

[cerulean kiln]

Game ended in 1999

[pastel pasture]

when development on warframe ends. give the game a 4-5 year life before server closure

[livid glen]

The Old Peace is a collective hallucination

[steep totem]

Would be nice to have
And parallel to Tenet Ferrox

[pure merlin]

It would be reaaallyyyy funny if they did a fake out during a quest, like you somehow face Wally and suddenly the game shuts down, and when you try to load back in, it tells you this game doesn't exists, then you wait and Wally shows up and boom, you're back in

[pastel pasture]

i feel like, and this might just be the copium talking, but i feel like DE would make a single player version

obviously watered down

[uncut solar]

Dark refractory more like dark corners of my consciousness

[pastel pasture]

but still letting you load into warframe and keep playing it

[livid glen]

I remember reading somewhere that once the end of development reaches DE would release a solo only version, yeah. Don't remember where though.

[pastel pasture]

p2p coop at the best

[pure merlin]

Honestly, even if the game ever shut down, the players would work their asses off to attempt to keep it online, like it's the case for some really old games

[chilly pine]

Megan brings up the idea of making syndicate operators clothing. Reb says she loves that
hell yeah

[pastel pasture]

i decided tto start watching that warframe blind player through nerd's playthrough

the guy who takes notes when playing

[worn fjord]

Bless Megan for bringing that up. More fashion on the way

[chilly pine]

DE seems the type of company to release the game files when warframe eventually dies, be interesting to see what the game looks like by then and what the community does with it.

[livid glen]

Endy20d

[worn fjord]

I watched his vids too!! fun to watch tbh

[pure merlin]

Totally agree

[worn fjord]

So since Garuda lore is coming would it be related to Nitokh or something else

[pastel pasture]

i have to say...probably

Garuda and Nitokh share (or at least close enough) a title

[worn fjord]

Hope it’s not KIM related

[chilly pine]

i could see it having something to do with nitokh given that weve gotten more lore on them

[worn fjord]

Like I don’t want to text Nitokh lmao

[chilly pine]

the kim systems great, and a great source of lore, but yeah, maybe time to let it be, atleast for a while

[pure merlin]

Make Nitokh the literal embodiment of Garuda's craziness, like make her absolutely damn insane

[chilly pine]

remind me, do we know if nitokhs confirmed dead?

[worn fjord]

DE is gonna cook with that one

[livid glen]

I would love to text Nitokh for the new lore, but from just a character/in-universe perspective, yeah, no, it would be very weird.

[pure merlin]

It's not confirmed no

Roathe says a line about it too

[worn fjord]

IIRC we asked Roathe and he didn’t give a definite answer

[livid glen]

Roathe goes out of his way to tell us nothing survived of Nitokh, information-wise, so she is a complete wildcard right now.

[deft mist]

Its up in the air

[worn fjord]

Yea exactly, I’m thinking from that point of view

[chilly pine]

hmm, wonder if DE is setting her up to play a bigger part in this arc then

[deft mist]

I could see a.main quest using the triad if they add nitokh

[deft mist]

Thats concerning

If she is alive not by her won accord so whos accord is the question

[worn fjord]

I was just about to post these texts lol

[pastel pasture]

what weapon is this

[worn fjord]

That’s for sure

[pastel pasture]

side note: Grineer showing good gun safety with the trigger finger

[steep totem]

That's Gotva Prime, I'm pretty sure

[worn fjord]

It does look like Gotva..

[pastel pasture]

uuuh

[deft mist]

Roathe might end up having ptsd

[pastel pasture]

looks slightly different but close enough I guess

[worn fjord]

But maybe he’ll be strong enough to face her despite all the ptsd

[chilly pine]

i almost wonder, what if nitokhs in tau, and the reason shes seemingly been quiet is she cant get back to the origin system. dumb idea but who knows

[pure merlin]

Imo, there's only two situation we can find Tau in
Completely deserted, with none or very few enemies roaming about
Restored completely because someone is still "reigning" there, and it could be Nitokh

[pastel pasture]

i highly doubt it'll be 'very few enemies'

[fringe pond]

It’s literally the same weapon but with slightly different colours

[uncut solar]

I think i understand something now

[deft mist]

And we have a new antogonisy

[pastel pasture]

I wasn't seeing the grip loop until the camera angle changed

[uncut solar]

Garuda can't have ties to Nitohk

[deft mist]

Okay sukuna

[uncut solar]

for a very important reason that we overlooked

[worn fjord]

I feel like Albrecht knows unless she made her own serum

[steep totem]

...which is?

[deft mist]

The lotus connection?

[pure merlin]

Because you can farm her in Orb Vallis?

[uncut solar]

No

because if she belonged to Nitohk, M on her head wouldve been N

[steep totem]

Means next to nothing
Smokefinger only found her bp in a fungus

[uncut solar]

[deft mist]

Hm

[steep totem]

Maybe the M means something else
like murder

[pastel pasture]

what if it's revealed Nitokh's real name is Mnitohk and nobody knew it had a silent M at the start

[pure merlin]

Ehhh, I thought maybe if they did give her lore, they'd change where you could farm her and for now Orb Vallis is a "placeholder", just overthinking 👀

[worn fjord]

Who do you think Uriel Prime is..? Roathe knows the identity too

[uncut solar]

"the silent M behind all of her bloodiest deeds"

[livid glen]

If a Nitokh protoframe does become real, it better be Garuda Prime.

[steep totem]

Her blueprints are filled with Vallis materials
Imo, it'd be too much work to change that

[pure merlin]

I don't think the "M" is that important, otherwise it'd show up on her prime version too

[uncut solar]

maybe it means Meat

[pastel pasture]

if we do get Nitokh protoframe I'd want her to be a villain but im not really sure how the gemini skin would work

[steep totem]

Little Meat? 👀

[deft mist]

Hm

[uncut solar]

i will cry if its Nitohk proto, like please DE stop

[pastel pasture]

the answer is not "there wouldn't be one"

Every protoframe we see will be a gemini skin. DE isn't dumb

[pure merlin]

Grandfather Entrati ? 👀

[deft mist]

I never thought of that

[undone lodge]

By god, it’s genius

[steep totem]

Unless we get Stalker protoframe

[uncut solar]

Thats why M is silent, duh

[pastel pasture]

what if we get a warframe that's just 100% Nitokh. not a protoframe, she just is a warframe

[uncut solar]

i would be ok with that

[pastel pasture]

isn't Stalker just like. a bootleg excalibur

[fringe pond]

Would she talk?

[steep totem]

Fully transformed?
Hmm

[zenith jacinth]

What

[livid glen]

With a dose of ash and nyx.

[steep totem]

Not anymore
He has his own model now

[pure merlin]

DE laughing at our theories, thinking we're not ready for the truth

[zenith jacinth]

He does?

[uncut solar]

i think he was updated when Gianni stepped in?

[fringe pond]

Doesn’t his model still draw from Excalibur’s?

[pastel pasture]

i meant strain-wise

[fringe pond]

No
He just looks like Excalibur cause of oldframe limitations

[steep totem]

Umm
No

[worn fjord]

Grandfather Entrati? You mean Grandmother’s husband? That seems like a stretch

[zenith jacinth]

Jarvis, show me stalker's model

[pastel pasture]

i guess he doesn't really have an exalted sword. he just uses Hunhow*

[pure merlin]

No like, Albrecht's father
Though I've barely head about him and it was more of a joke lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Oh wait I'm the jarvis

[uncut solar]

ngl i just feel like protos have lost their luster and the triad was advertised as skins first rather than an important part of the story

garuda proto being nitohk is just bleh, after Roathe it would just be continously jumping the shark

[pastel pasture]

I guess I agree. I don't want every update to introduce a new KIM chat but at the same time

We're gonna get more protoframes eventually

gemini skin sales fund development

[steep totem]

Agree
But

I think it would be cool if Caliban proto were an Orokin

[pure merlin]

People are gonna want a Voruna proto

[deft mist]

Id make make it like all blood themes

[zenith jacinth]

Why is everyone laugh reacting my joke was not that funny

[uncut solar]

We will, i just want them to be actually important for the story rather than "this character exists because the skins are selling well"

[worn fjord]

Ohh.. well the only hint we have is— for some reason Roathe will only tell us the name of whoever is Uriel Prime when he’s at his deathbed. I wonder why

[fringe pond]

That would be Great grandfather entrati

[pastel pasture]

I do however want Tau to add Caliban gemini skin

[livid glen]

Why not an infested Sentient.

[pastel pasture]

because i'm a filthy caliban main and i want a gemini skin for him

[uncut solar]

its not really the point

[fringe pond]

Isn’t that like
Incredibly difficult

[uncut solar]

my issue is with them having no real relevance and being shoved in

[fringe pond]

If not impossible

[zenith jacinth]

Caliban mains don't exist

[livid glen]

Yes, but let a man dream.

[zenith jacinth]

It is impossible

[uncut solar]

i know at least one on youtube

[steep totem]

Rule of Cool, my dude

[deft mist]

Imagine it being someone important

[pure merlin]

What if it's because it's some very grand general that died or something, or like one of the Emperors ? I think these are the ones above the executors right ?
Like genuinely saying his name would be like quite literally summoning the devil at your door and end everything

[uncut solar]

rule of cool can coexist with plot relevance and proper implementation

caliban himself is rule of cool

[pastel pasture]

I am as real as....THAT GUY 👇

[deft mist]

Ooh

[fringe pond]

Ive always wondered why the sentients were immune
Maybe because they adapt faster than the Infested can?

[deft mist]

They arent completely biological

[worn fjord]

It feels like it might be.. otherwise why would Roathe not mention it yet.

[zenith jacinth]

They're not biological at all but that's not why

[fringe pond]

That doesn’t really matter

[deft mist]

Right techrot

[worn fjord]

It would be

[zenith jacinth]

And regular infested

[pure merlin]

I can only really think of fear, really

[steep totem]

Not just that
The Mutalist strain

[chilly pine]

eris, mutalist strain too

[fringe pond]

Especially considering the nonsense that happens to infested derelicts

That’s literally just big hunks of metal in space

[zenith jacinth]

There's whole corpus ships being eaten by infestation

[uncut solar]

Sentients adapt to the environment and seemingly have a very precise control over their bodies down to being able to split into chunks. A mass of corrupting tissue facing something that can consciously resist and adapt on its own level is probably going to struggle

[deft mist]

But who

[pure merlin]

What if Uriel Prime is Scrap and he's just been hiding it this whole time pretending to be a Cephalon

[chilly pine]

infestation can convert non biological materials but its a much slower process i think

[pure merlin]

Someone powerful we don't know about

[zenith jacinth]

[deft mist]

Cant be Margulus cauae jadelight and im sure ballas would.know

[zenith jacinth]

Same speed

[pure merlin]

Thank you for making it day 5 of changing my pfp

[livid glen]

Now that I think about it, an infested Sentient is literally just Caliban if he had a mind.

[pastel pasture]

if Scrap is any warframe Scrap is probably. I dunno....Gauss

[worn fjord]

Lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Do I give off that much adhd energy

[fringe pond]

Even that
Sentients are essentially as complicated as the infestation is
So it’s a wave of replicating nanomachines that are good at adapting vs a wave of replicating nanomachines that are even better at adapting

[steep totem]

I'd say Dante
But that's for Librarian reasons

[worn fjord]

I was gonna say Dante too

[pure merlin]

Do you all honestly think the next update immediatly is going to be Tau ? I feel like that'd still take time to release

[pastel pasture]

ok fine then uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. Whoever the next warframe is

that's you

[livid glen]

I dunno why but my first thought was Octavia.

Like, completely random and not fitting, but it was my first thought.

[zenith jacinth]

But also it'd be baruuk

[steep totem]

It's either July or December

[worn fjord]

Baruuk is awesome..!!

[steep totem]

...also fitting

[livid glen]

It will almost certainly be December.

[zenith jacinth]

...I am learning to make music

[pure merlin]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, brb sobbing

[uncut solar]

probably some sort of echoes for old peace

hopefully focused on triad

[pure merlin]

I kinda want a cephalon focused quest

[fringe pond]

Bro is every warframe

[livid glen]

Well, I mean, Octavia's Anthem is kind of that.

[zenith jacinth]

Octavia anthem

[pure merlin]

You play as one of the cephalons before they become well, cephalons

[steep totem]

Octavia's Anthem

[zenith jacinth]

New strange

[livid glen]

All I'm hearing is playable Ordan Karris.

[fringe pond]

Technically Jordas Precept too

[steep totem]

Oh, that sort of focus
Hmm

[chilly pine]

Infestation of a living natural organism and the transformation of its molecular structure happens much more rapidly than with large synthetic ships or machinery.
from the codex

[worn fjord]

That’d be interesting..

[pure merlin]

No but like literally play as Ordan or Cy before they're cephalon, and then see them in their everyday life, then suddenly boom, the whole process of them becoming cephalons

[zenith jacinth]

Hmmm

[fringe pond]

Man i can’t wait to watch Cy’s crew die

[uncut solar]

Does Limbo's Theorem count as a cephalon quest? It's like 70% Ordis reading mathematical smut

[worn fjord]

Cy :((

[pure merlin]

One day, One day I damn hope

[zenith jacinth]

I try to be

[pure merlin]

I love him 😔

[steep totem]

And all I'm hearing is an excuse to kill Ballas again

[zenith jacinth]

Please don't call it that

[livid glen]

Ordan Karris: Killing Orokin has never been this fun!

[fringe pond]

I mean
Limbo fr mathed so hard it got Ordis flustered
And then Limbo’s calculator broke and he blew up

[zenith jacinth]

Well, he kinda f-ed up at that

[fringe pond]

Imagine being limbo’s operator dude

Bro lost their frame because they screwed up some math

[uncut solar]

"Just as I suspected, another theorem. Limbo's formula for inverting the entropic mass of void quantum is downright naughty"
"I want more. Operator, please hurry, this story is getting quite good."

[pure merlin]

Ahh, that's why math is important in school...

[fringe pond]

And i imagine getting shattered into atoms wasn’t a pleasant thing to feel through transference

[livid glen]

I mean, in this case it might be just Limbo without an operator.

[zenith jacinth]

Probably didn't feel it for very long

[livid glen]

We don't really know.

[fringe pond]

I know this is probably never gonna happen but stuff like this is why i wish we could meet more Tenno

[uncut solar]

Limbo is like a really bold magician trying to perform a messed up trick that would kill him most likely

and he succeeds, in dying

[fringe pond]

Yeah that’s probably his inspiration actually

[uncut solar]

i mean thats his whole aesthetic

he is a magician, a performer

and so his most dangerous trick yet resulted in his death

[zenith jacinth]

Make limbo's energy yellow, call that a whizzard

[fringe pond]

LMAO

Made his energy orange 🤔

[zenith jacinth]

Medically challenged whizzard

[pure merlin]

Why is Limbo so fast to build

[uncut solar]

Because he's a quest reward

[livid glen]

Because DE wants everyone to play Limbo, trust.

[pure merlin]

I mean, he IS the goat 👀

[zenith jacinth]

Limbo used to have normal frame build times

[uncut solar]

Yeah, it's more of a convenience than anything

[livid glen]

Now if only the Revenant quest also had a convenience update, I might actually finish it.

[chilly pine]

they reduced the limbo build time so people could get through the quest faster iirc

[uncut solar]

You had to build each part separately, per quest stage

And then the full warframe

That is quite a lot of time

[zenith jacinth]

Guaranteed bp drops

Please, DE

[pure merlin]

You don't need to build him to finish the quest tho, do you?

[livid glen]

Seriously, I'm pretty sure this is the only quest that requires you to farm the warframe parts to complete the quest.

The audacity.

Last quest I need to finish.

[chilly pine]

i believe you do, build each part to progess to the next part of the quest

[zenith jacinth]

It is and rng absolutely HATES me

[pure merlin]

Uh, fair enough, I can't remember ig
I remember building him a lot later after I finished the quest

[livid glen]

Only thing saving it is the Circuit.

[shadow ivy]

Like they rude to me without reasons (not GrimLord210)

[livid glen]

Too bad the circuit is also obscenely boring, but atleast it's guaranteed.

[shadow forum]

I think those who typed it, wants to have fun in cyber bullying other players.

Yep seems permanent mute is best way to avoid those players.

[balmy storm]

Report them

[pastel pasture]

80 more crystals....

[pastel pasture]

if you want to get him 2035'd that's 2035 messagse

[steep totem]

It'd be 2036 now, methinks

[pastel pasture]

nah not yet at least

someone was in this server recently whining about the 2035 ban they got for using racial slurs

[steep totem]

Why I hate modern culture
It is now okay to use slurs if it's casual and "all in good fun"

[pastel pasture]

culture comes in waves

next generation will probably be another "it's okay to show emotion and be empathic"

Current generation of kids is on the alpha male wave

[steep totem]

Nothing wrong with empathy

[deft mist]

I use them sometimes with friends rhat agree to it but i dont do it online

[pure merlin]

And being disrespectful to everyone and everything

[steep totem]

Why use them at all?

They're insults
Treat them as such

[pastel pasture]

but yeah if you look into generation attitudes. you almost always see the next generation defying the previous one

[deft mist]

Apparently you havent worked in fast food much

[steep totem]

if that sort of behavior is commonplace there, I'll have to remember never to work in fast food

[pastel pasture]

here's something to get chat back on track. a classic move I like to pull that makes everyone mad at me

[deft mist]

No ballas

[pastel pasture]

I think we'll see anarchs, or whatever came from the anarch faction, on Tau

[deft mist]

An older one

I bet either be perfected or be worse then the grineer in origin

[pastel pasture]

I mean if Nitokh is on Tau and has enough access to eqiupment to establish a foothold

she'd probably maintain the grineer

and if Nitokh is on Tau I think we're going to find a lot of evidence to back up Roathe's claim that Ballas wasn't the worst executor

[deft mist]

Shes gonna be a psychopath

[pastel pasture]

Pre Narmer Ballas

Preformed underhanded plans to trick people: standard Orokin

Plotted the downfall of the empire: Nitokh also did that

anything else?

I guess he sentenced his girlfriend to be executed for not loving him enough.

[echo basalt]

We assuming nitohk is alive in this scenario

[pastel pasture]

she might be

i may be misremembering but I think Roathe thinks she's alive

granted he wasn't around for the collapse

[pure merlin]

Roathe doesn't know whever she is alive or not but that it's weird considering who she is that she'd be so quiet if she was alive
But that if she is, she definitely took the time to prepare something horrible

[echo basalt]

Eh eff it if there's no lore about her dying or a body she's alive

[pastel pasture]

found it

[echo basalt]

I'll take a phyrexia scenario for 500 alex

[pastel pasture]

soyeah he doesn't know

but her being stuck in Tau would be "not of her own accord"

[pure merlin]

Apparently that phrase doesn't mean that

[cerulean kiln]

Erra got blasted by 7 beams at once and survived somehow

[pastel pasture]

fighting against Nitokh would also give us another secondary antagonist for the "longest arc" we're headed towards

[steep totem]

My thoughts on Alad exactly

[echo basalt]

Bros a roach

[pastel pasture]

Alad going to show up like "Ah Betrayers, you want to get to Tau? We'll I've been working on my Zanuka Rail made out of pure human remains."

[echo basalt]

Nah dude just used eidolon bones and duct tape

[pastel pasture]

"Betrayers look, Ive turned myself into a railjack. Ride me to tau....but only if you'll owe me a favor again"

then a year later we have Operation: De-railjackify Alad

[deft mist]

Jesus

[fringe pond]

Nope
No frame quest is like tgat

[echo basalt]

Revenant

Is like that

Or was it limbo?

[fringe pond]

I’ve literally never had to build any of his parts

Limbo yes

Revenant no
I know this because i only built him after i finished the quest

[pastel pasture]

we need more nonbinary frames

gimme a warframe that's nonbinary because it's a domestik drone

[cerulean kiln]

But Domestik drone isn’t an Orokin invention

[pastel pasture]

idc

[cerulean kiln]

And only Orokin can create new Warframes

[pastel pasture]

think about it this way

Domestik Drones, chronologically speaking

are ancient human artifacts the orokin could have dug up

[dark remnant]

Relatively sure that there could be new Warframes not made by Ballas or Entrati; what was discovered once can always be rediscovered with time.

Alad V certainly was trying to figure it out.

[pastel pasture]

Gimme a warframe made by some dude

like a random human got their hands on stolen warframe research. made their own warframe

as punishment they were turned into that warframe

[real niche]

As far as we're aware the Warframes all had involvement in some part by Ballas, and all were from the Orokin Empire which is now gone.

[pastel pasture]

Qorvex is pure Entrati is it not

[dark remnant]

Yes.

[hearty pendant]

designed by entrati, no detail on who made him

[cerulean kiln]

Who is Orokin

[pastel pasture]

John O. Kin

[real niche]

Designed by him

[zenith jacinth]

They aren't tho

[pastel pasture]

did you miss the part where i said 'chronologically speaking'

there is a domestik drone in 1999 because we brought one there.

[dark remnant]

And built by him. Or did you not notice the other Warframes that Entrati was making in his lab? You know, the giant 'statues' made from the Grey Strain infestation?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah, but that’s time travel not digging it up

[zenith jacinth]

It got sent back to the future by amir and kaya

[pastel pasture]

i believe they said one of them

[hearty pendant]

he's messed with helminth but the vessels are not warframes

[thick jolt]

So him building something else links to him for sure building out qorvex how?

Possible yes but no certainty

[hearty pendant]

why would qorvex's description specify being designed by entrati instead of just being made/built by him?

[dark remnant]

He knows how to manipulate the Infestation.

If anything, he's better at it than Ballas, because Entrati's Vessels don't require a human being at the core.

[thick jolt]

Yes he has the knowledge now explain how that translates to him for sure building out a qorvex

[dark remnant]

There's this thing called a 'foundry', you might ahve used it a few times.

[thick jolt]

He could make one so what makes you sure he actually did?

We see no built qorvex wandering around the labs

[karmic grail]

The description does say that he has been designed by Entrati to protect from the dangers of Entrati's laboratory, does it not? Why would anyone but Entrati make a warframe who was specifically designed to do that

[thick jolt]

We know albrecht designed qorvex, that much is explicitly said

But we have no assurance he actually built one

[dark remnant]

"I refuse to believe anything I haven't seen done with my own eyes in person, therefore it didn't happen."

[cerulean kiln]

Also Knowing how to use a 3D printer doesn’t mean you know how to build a wholly new frame

[thick jolt]

Just like temple
We know the temple batch was designed but ballas deigned to never actually build one of that batch

[cerulean kiln]

Warframe loves making designer and builder separate people

[thick jolt]

There is a difference between designing and deciding "yes i will now build this design"

We know for sure the design part happened

But you claiming the building part happened just because yes is just assuming

[cerulean kiln]

There’s literally Protea Prime and Temple as examples of this

[hearty pendant]

silvana and titania, parvos and protea

[thick jolt]

Could albrecht have built a qorvex? Yes
Do we have any evidence he did? No

[hearty pendant]

both in the codex description and Loid's description of qorvex, it only says albrecht designed him

[fading current]

That one had bombs strapped onto it I believe lmao

[real niche]

Because he possibly didn't have the means to make one himself, like how Protea was designed by Parvos but still needed Ballas to work with him on it. Even now he's only screwing around with stuff that was already made and used before with the serums, straight Helminth and Grey Strain.

[karmic grail]

Fair enough, I was just kinda assuming that if anyone would have built Qorvex, it would've been Entrati since all that laboratory stuff in the description
But i understand what you guys mean now, my bad

[real niche]

Yeah that's the distinction here

I'd figure it much more likely it's a commission rather than Albrecht having also made it himself.

[pastel pasture]

imagine if they added warframe to fortnite

[cerulean kiln]

No

[thick jolt]

Would be a sad day

[civic ore]

shudders

[pastel pasture]

ok ok ok

[cerulean kiln]

They already did a pubg collab

[pastel pasture]

what if warframe added fornite to warframe

[civic ore]

i wouldnt complain about more unreal tournament stuff

[cerulean kiln]

No

That’s even worse

[thick jolt]

An event better left forgotten

[cerulean kiln]

Game company collabs are weird tbh

[civic ore]

it always is sometimes

[undone lodge]

Imagine if fortnite added They to warframe

[pastel pasture]

we got two Theys in warframe what are you talking about

[undone lodge]

We need more

[civic ore]

refresh my memory who they are again?

[pastel pasture]

Xaku and Flare/Temple

[civic ore]

thinks .........yeah you're right

[pastel pasture]

I want another song moment

Lullabies of the Manifold during the Hunhullis fight was nice and all

but nothing is going to beat Sleeping in the Cold Below's moment

[chilly pine]

the for narmer scene, ooooof that was a punch in the gut

[pastel pasture]

ooh yeah that was also a good one

not in the same way as SitCB. but it really delivered home how bad things were during the new war

[zenith jacinth]

A lot beats that moment ngl

[pastel pasture]

i diagnose your opinion as INCORRECT. please go to the incorrect corner -->

[zenith jacinth]

You're just in a tiny arena fighting sparse individual enemy spawns, that's boring

[pastel pasture]

its the mood

something you don't get being a cephalon

[zenith jacinth]

I disagnose you with misremembering how impressive the moment actually is

[pastel pasture]

no no no i remember it just fine

gameplay sucked donkeys.

atmosphere was fire tho

[zenith jacinth]

For narmer and we all lift together are much better

[zenith jacinth]

There was little to no atmosphere

[pastel pasture]

there was beacoup atmosphere

[zenith jacinth]

Replay the quest right now, see how wrong you are

[pastel pasture]

only if you replay. uhh...The War Within

[zenith jacinth]

Why that one

[cerulean kiln]

I don’t think that’s how opinions work

[pastel pasture]

You are also diagnosed as INCORRECT

[hearty pendant]

funniest option is whispers because its still broken

[cerulean kiln]

You’re also now diagnosed as incorrect so join me

[pastel pasture]

D:

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-leaving-tigger-sad-tigger-meme-meme-gif-1861164940938639699

[uncut solar]

i am self diagnosed as CORRECT

and the best moment is "For Narmer"

[cerulean kiln]

Dw I diagnose you as correct so it isn’t self diagnosed anymore

[pastel pasture]

i self diagnose everyone retroactively as infinite incorrect

myself included, which reverts my incorrect status to correct

multiply a negative by a negative. the math checks out

also im aborting this challenge because I this quest is SO BORING

[pliant sandal]

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[fringe pond]

Broken how lol

[hearty pendant]

you spawn in the wrong place and necraloid never shows up to lead you to the sanctum
you can't "quit" the quest either, so you just lose most sanctum functionality

[pastel pasture]

Loid Loid takes Bird 3 out back and plucks him, rendering the quest incompletable

[cerulean kiln]

Heart of Deimos replay was also broken and it took till Isleweaver for DE to kick us out of the quest

[pastel pasture]

can't wait for Old [Spanish word for Fish] to be broken

[solid otter]

The same spawn issue necraloid had in Heart of Deimos before he got fixed 😭

[tough perch]

it gave me the option to confess intrest in roathe to marie, is that a romance thing or smth else

[real niche]

romance

[tough perch]

OH SHIT

[tough perch]

uhhh can i still romance marie instead

[real niche]

idk I plan on just confessing to them in person

[zenith jacinth]

I win

[pastel pasture]

Win what

I was very clear that the gameplay sucked

[zenith jacinth]

And the sitcb moment IS gameplay

[fringe pond]

huh

[zenith jacinth]

What? That's just an empty picture

[chilly pine]

huh, its a little hard to see but that does look like a finger

[small temple]

I messed up with Marie. It seemed fine and I reached best friend w Lyon and loved with Roathe but Marie is neutral… how do I fix it w her? I swore I picked all the right options

[opal ridge]

Romanced, oh my god roathe

[zenith jacinth]

Is she still talking to you?

[small temple]

No I think we’re done w chats

I’ll see tomorrow

Nope

[opal ridge]

OH MY GOD HE TALKS LIKE A GREEK MYTHOS

[solid otter]

Oh what the shit

[small temple]

I’m blocked

[zenith jacinth]

Anathema?

[small temple]

Yup…. What does that mean

[zenith jacinth]

Then you said something wrong

[small temple]

DAMN IT

[zenith jacinth]

Person is very upset with you

[opal ridge]

Is Marie really that hard of the 3?

[small temple]

I don’t wanna reset….

She’s so difficult

I said everything right

[zenith jacinth]

You can have one of the other two help you once

[zenith jacinth]

Clearly not

[hearty pendant]

what was your most recent convo w/ her

[small temple]

I had red in every dialogue

How’s it going w the devil today was the most recent

[small temple]

How

[zenith jacinth]

That's not what's important

[hearty pendant]

+chemistry is not necessarily the right choice