spoiler-chat

[rancid pilot]

• rulebooks (but alot of people just "borrow" those)

[uncut solar]

I just have a bunch of necrons decorating a shelf

[rancid pilot]

Honestly cheaper and better for your own health to just paint a few minis and enjoy that

[uncut solar]

As long as those aren't tyranids

Then it won't be cheaper

[polar shore]

how to get azurit beeing a outsider?

[thick jolt]

I dont think that translated well

[thick jolt]

You mean azurite for the rank up with the ostrons?

[grave quiver]

IM CRYING

theres a bug where his mouth model isnt rotating with his head correctly

roathe stop messign with your dentures and keep them in properly

[gilded light]

Is there a way to make only a single song loop via Somachord in the orbiter?

[balmy storm]

Yes, there’s a loop button in the bottom left or right
One is a shuffle idr which

[unkempt pawn]

Hmm interesting interaction

[zenith jacinth]

I will shoot roach.

[valid folio]

God I love the devil's triad

There's a line where he's like super protective of Marie tbh and that makes me love Roathe so so so much

[zenith jacinth]

Severely overshadowed by him echoing the loud minority of players

[valid folio]

He says something on the lines of "She's way too kind for her own good, if you abuse that kindness, I'll break every bone in your body, twice over"

[valid folio]

Wdym loud minority? About what?

[zenith jacinth]

.

[valid folio]

Ok yeah

I mean he also does say that "[he] will be disappointed in you if the floating gimmick doesn't get good use" 😭

Although, I've certainly seen at as him playful jesting, in a way to play you up

There's plenty of examples of him saying ts just to rile either Marie or the player dating Marie up

But it seems more like a playfully jabbing sibling or best friend

At least to me, which certainly makes me fond of the dynamic between the 3

[opaque dove]

Hit the loop button twice on the somachord you want if you haven’t already set a loop on it

[acoustic hill]

Do I have to confess and ask to date Marie before any new conversation with my partner from the hex appears?

[cerulean kiln]

Yes, you have to cheat first

[pure merlin]

Wish that was handled differently

[safe gale]

Help help help

Should i pick natah lotus or margulis

[cerulean kiln]

Lotus or Natah
Margulis is just wrong

[safe gale]

Why?

What would happen if i picked her?

[cerulean kiln]

Nothing

[safe gale]

Bruh

😭😭😭

[prime badger]

It's just the optional look you get to use

The rest you have to buy separate

[cerulean kiln]

It’s wrong ethically

[safe gale]

So it doesnt affect the story???

[prime badger]

She has been all of these people.
All of them are (more or less) the same person.

[safe gale]

How ? cause she died?

[cerulean kiln]

Yes

Taking the name of a dead person is a ethically a bad thing

[prime badger]

Natah is her latest true form. What is left of whatever began.

[safe gale]

Crazy ok thanks cause ive been stressing over this option for abt 10 minutes now😭💀

Imma pick lotus cause thats what im used to seeing🤷‍♂️

[prime badger]

I have the base Lotus still, is the one from the mission choioce one of ones with a longer name?

[cerulean kiln]

You get regular Lotus skin free for picking Lotus iirc

Margulis is the longer name

Lotus
Natah
Margulis

[prime badger]

I mean Lotus Radiant

[pastel pasture]

wonder what a nemesis warframe would look like

[prime badger]

Probably like the nemesis enemy

[pastel pasture]

i meant adversary

[prime badger]

Define Adversary?

[pastel pasture]

lich coda sister

we have adversary weapons

[prime badger]

Don't give the Orokin warframes. Look what they did with them last time.

[pastel pasture]

but what about an adversary warframe

[cerulean kiln]

A Coda one would just be a Warframe with a different strain

[uncut solar]

That's just Acolytes

[cerulean kiln]

There’s actually a Warframe called Nemesis

[uncut solar]

Where is that from?

[cerulean kiln]

DS

[uncut solar]

Dark souls?

I geniunely don't know, please educate me

[cerulean kiln]

Dark Sector lol

[pure merlin]

Who's that 👀

[cerulean kiln]

It’s Nyx before Nyx was Nyx

[pure merlin]

I was gonna say, it looks like Nyx lmao

[cerulean kiln]

It’s Nemesis

DE reused a bit of DS when creating Warframe

Excal and Nyx being examples

Even Nyx uses the Excal model

Even Stalker uses the Excal model

[uncut solar]

Oh I thought you meant actual in-warframe lore

[polar shore]

yes

[cerulean kiln]

It actually is in Warframe lore as a ||Movie and Novel||

[uncut solar]

Oh

[cerulean kiln]

1999 literally made it technically canon

[uncut solar]

I played Dark Sector like

Uh, I can't remember when

Oh right I did it on release, this was ages ago

[cerulean kiln]

2008

[uncut solar]

Nevermind

I played it in 2009 or so

Got it alongside demons souls

[cerulean kiln]

17-18 years ago

[uncut solar]

Time sure flies

I'm old...

[cerulean kiln]

I wanted to try it but DE only rereleased it for PC

I had a ton of people telling me after saying I can’t they I can

If I wanted to play it I’d have to grab a 360 or PS3

[solid otter]

I think they assume that bcs crossplay must mean console and pc, not. Console and phone 😭

[cerulean kiln]

Technically there is a PC account I set up

On my phone

[solid otter]

[cerulean kiln]

PC players don’t even gotta worry about getting crossplay role

Tbh I don’t even use mobile Warframe anymore as I tried it and it was the worst experience ever

[solid otter]

Ykwhat fair

Id only use it for kimchats

[jagged summit]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-meme-memes-sad-sunset-gif-21470428

[karmic blade]

Will it be bad if I reset for Roathe?

[jaunty salmon]

So bored now, anyone wanna play games together ?

[cerulean kiln]

He will know but otherwise no

[karmic blade]

Cuz I'm still on Anathema

[scarlet walrus]

I also have the same problem, but I refuse to reset, this is a problem that has to be solved by the team. Even because if it is reset I will suffer the consequence of an extremely angry Roathe

[lethal iris]

Sure

[karmic blade]

At this point, I'm just waiting for them to fix it

Also WHAT IS THAT PFP

[last snow]

What the heck is dark Neptune?

[heavy flint]

I reunited Loid with the upstairs Entratis! Marie got to meet Otak! Roathe is still on Anathema because he decided to have a conversation that I’m pretty sure should only trigger after a reset! I have no clue what is happening anymore!

“And now I know you are a liar as well as a memory-thief” Roathe I have done neither of those things

I know he’s bugged to heck and back I’m still just a tad grumpy about it 🙂

[solid otter]

😭

This is delightful to read

[heavy flint]

I’m glad my suffering brings you joy

[pure merlin]

Yeah Roathe's still bugged af

[undone lodge]

You can get a full reset (without engaging with a certain mechanic) by asking for one via Support Ticket

[heavy flint]

I’m joining the ‘wait and hope’ group

[undone lodge]

But I’d recommend waiting for them to get everything sorted

[solid otter]

Its bad, but it is funny.

Kinda like the people who think romancing Marie is hard

[heavy flint]

She thought I confessed to her when I hadn’t even realized I was flirting lol

[solid otter]

Watching as several people confess during an argument and watching them wonder why she doesn't like them anymore

[solid otter]

Yeah thats a bug 😭

But yeah, some people figured that agreeing with her about Albrecht = romance

Somehow missing the entire point of her chat

[heavy flint]

Oh no it wasn’t a bug, I just said something completely normal that was apparently tagged as flirting lol

[solid otter]

I am glad she exists tho. It was getting tiresome hearing proto after proto dog on him

... actually I think only the hex does

Kaya kinda tolerates him, I dont think flare mentions their feelings towards him much

[obtuse gyro]

I mean if you teased her at any point it counts

[solid otter]

Minerva and Velimnir... do they mention him?

[heavy flint]

‘What if I wanted to ask about you, instead? Is that blasphemous?’ Is what I said lol. I took it to mean ‘is it rude to ask a priest about her religion’

[heavy flint]

Surely at least a little?

[solid otter]

I know they mention him like once, but overall i dont think they mention their feelings about him 😭

[solid otter]

... do you, by any chance, struggle with social cues?
-# I mean this in a joking way

[obtuse gyro]

niope thats flirting alright LMAO

[solid otter]

"When I'd talk to Entrati about particle physics and the Void, and I LOVE to talk about that stuff, he would just, like, listen to me blather on. But I could tell, by the look in his eye, when I had things right and wrong."

This is a temporal Archimedia Kaya line and. Man i like it. Its a nice line. Humanising

[heavy flint]

I had to ask Arthur out manually despite resetting to get the confession conversation because I forgot to flirt. So, yes, lol

[solid otter]

Youd love the site Kimulacrum-

[heavy flint]

Yeah I get why the protos have their issues with Entrati and I’d love to punt him across a football field but he is a very complicated character and I like it when that actually comes up

[solid otter]

EXACTLY

[heavy flint]

Consider: I’m too stubborn to use it the first time through

[solid otter]

So many people just hate on him without actually looking at the whole picture because "muh hex told me he bad and evil" and its genuinely so frustrating and tiresome

[solid otter]

Ykwhat fair enough 😭

[uncut solar]

Ngl kim chats exposed a lot of people's issues

[undone lodge]

I imagine they’d have an ambivalent opinion on him since he explained it fully to them. VelMin leaning positive, while Flare would lean negative.

VelMin because they’d be able to understand and sympathise with making tough choices that negatively effect people, and Flare because they only have their new friends experience to go off of

[cerulean kiln]

KIM exposed a lot of DE’s issues

[steep totem]

cue the pic of Roathe commenting on our reading comprehension

[undone lodge]

Doesn’t help that the Hex almost always only let you just push past it, invalidate their issues with him or shit on him alongside them

[uncut solar]

I was mostly talking about being unable to communicate properly

But what are you talking about

[cerulean kiln]

Rebb fumbled Arthur

[heavy flint]

Roathe when I didn’t realize I was flirting

[steep totem]

Oh, right!
I genuinely forgot about that

[heavy flint]

How!?!???

[pure merlin]

I second this, how did she fumble Arthur ?

[steep totem]

I mean, I often wonder how people fumble Eleanor

[obtuse gyro]

theyre probably talking about the consent convo? but acting like its "alot of DE's issues" is an insane take lol

[pure merlin]

Yeah I mean the consent convos are baad

[cerulean kiln]

Consent convo should’ve had a possibility of breaking up tbh

[uncut solar]

So what were you talking about

[pure merlin]

Based on who you're having the consent convo with, it should end in a breakup, like with Lettie and Arthur who clearly do not want to share and are against cheating

[cerulean kiln]

Weird how they made it so you cheat then admit

[pure merlin]

"Hey so uhm, I fell in love with someone else and we kissed, I care about them, you're fine with that right ?"

[uncut solar]

Feels like it was a bit of an afterthought so they implemented it in a way that's easier

[heavy flint]

Arthur’s does, and as far as I know, only Arthur’s

[cerulean kiln]

Haven’t heard of anyone getting that

[heavy flint]

And even then your drifter has to be the one to say ‘you know what maybe we should end this’

Arthur gets 0 agency in the matter

[cerulean kiln]

Usually we get loads complaining how they got broken up with for whatever reason

[pure merlin]

It's more an option you can choose than him breaking up with you really

[uncut solar]

Ouch

[pure merlin]

Also, the drifter options are not nice at all imo

[cerulean kiln]

Cheat then breakup

[solid otter]

They added the consent conversations as a bandaid bcs they didnt think that their... audience would gaf

[pure merlin]

He sounds upsets af at first too

[steep totem]

Yep
For some reason, people seem to think that just because it's a video game, there's no way for them to get dumped
jokes on you, fellas

[solid otter]

I just wish DE would restrict their player base more

I still think triad should be behind r5 cavia

Or at the very least, the ending

[rustic tree]

That would make sense lol

[steep totem]

I disagree, but it makes some sense

[rustic tree]

Loid you are too busy figuring out how to cure void sickness!! Do not waste time !!

[heavy flint]

Loid going upstairs being locked behind rank 5 Entrati was a genius idea, honestly, because him going up before then probably would have ended with him dismembered

[solid otter]

Like why is he up there doing god knows what while the cavia are dying

[solid otter]

Mother would've killed him for sure

[rustic tree]

This should have been an option though

[solid otter]

She also would've killed Marie for the argument

I still think she would

Even at r5

[cerulean kiln]

Getting Warframe players to play Warframe is always good

[pure merlin]

And then Loid dies and you get a "game over, please create another account to replay the story"

[solid otter]

Unfortunately there's no loop for loid 😭

[heavy flint]

It would have been so funny

[rustic tree]

If someone cant figure out that it'd be a bad idea then too bad

[solid otter]

Marie blaming the family for Albrecht not returning was wild btw

Like. Marie. Marie do you want death

Calling them vipers

[heavy flint]

Imagine: cutscene plays out like normal, but when he walks off screen on the other side of the door we hear a wilhelm scream and then a lone leg goes flying by

[steep totem]

No, but Albrecht has cloned him before
It wouldn't surprise me if he had a couple dozen Loids in cold storage for such an incident

[solid otter]

Marie do you want mother to shank you 😭

[rustic tree]

I think that made some sense though in the context of the convo

[cerulean kiln]

I hate how DE keep removing requirements because players can’t be bothered to farm in the game about farming

[solid otter]

Oh? No thats. Thats not confirmed and not really likely any more

We just learned that cephalons can be created w out death

[steep totem]

It is though
Necraloid is a glassed clone of Loid

[rustic tree]

Necralized, rather, no?

[steep totem]

Then give me a source

[rustic tree]

Marie convos

[steep totem]

Specifically?

[solid otter]

Ehh, its not entirely wrong, he did leave to keep them safe, yeah

[rustic tree]

Where you talk about cephalon souls and about necraloid being a unique case

[rustic tree]

Idk im on my phone go find it

[solid otter]

Its.. a conversation with Roathe

[rustic tree]

There is similar convo with marie no?

[solid otter]

And yeah, Necralized is the term mother used

She thinks he's dead, and based on that we can assume necralisation is similar to the aggressive form of glassing

[undone lodge]

Worst part is half of them already knowing . I assume it’s meant to be like, Drifter being a really open book because it’s their friend-family, lover and them still getting used to emotional control but it just comes across like them already having experience and knowing the signs 😭

[rustic tree]

That makes the name more apt at least

[pure merlin]

Feels toxic af in the end, ngl

[solid otter]

Painless and non-destructively

As far as i know, death is neither

[rustic tree]

Unless you're holding fast

[solid otter]

And what we thought of glassing, it usually involved death

[rustic tree]

this is about what i was thinking of from the marie convo

[solid otter]

Also as a tip, don't ask for a source like that when you're claiming a theory to be canon. We had no proof there was any cloning involved, hell, we don't even know if kalymos was even cloned

Its hard to supply a source to disprove a theory like that 😭

[rustic tree]

"master entrati jealously guarded his most prized possessions, be they objects, or people" (probably paraphrasing a bit)
this line from necraloid also makes it feel like he probably wouldn't make a bunch of clones of his bf

[steep totem]

Considering that I wasn't aware that Cephalons could be made without death, it only made sense that Loid was cloned to make Necraloid

[undone lodge]

…actually, thats such a missed opportunity. They could’ve went for them thinking that maybe polygamy/amory was normal in the future/Drifter’s culture and they just, didn’t catch on, or think that because of their time in Duviri and the mess it made of them emotionally that they don’t really understand

That would’ve been an actually ok way to handle their reactions

Still not good but better than the crap we got 😭

[solid otter]

Considering they're in the orokin empire, it would make sense, insert some bullshit about it being normal

[heavy flint]

I’m pretty sure Roathe says as much somewhere

[pure merlin]

That would kind of frustrates players who do not agree with that way of life knowing their player character is "okay" with that
So would just be controversial

Lots of people like to "associate" with their character

[solid otter]

WIAH. I DIDJT KNOW THAT

[undone lodge]

No, I’m saying the Hex/Triad would think that, explaining how chill their reactions are

[solid otter]

Heathens

He calls us heathens

[undone lodge]

Like, they’d assume it, not necessarily being correct

[heavy flint]

Then insists he isn’t making fun of us when we call him out 🤷‍♀️

[solid otter]

No wonder he didn't like loid and Albrecht. They seemed pretty monogamous

[undone lodge]

Being a Dualist is fine. But being monogamous? Nonono, that won’t do at all

[pure merlin]

I meaan, I guess, it could have worked. But idk, it's kind of difficult to tackle stuff like this, I think the better choice would have been to force a breakup with members of the Hex that are not into that, and have the consent convo with the ones that are okay with it. Them assuming stuff would have made them look a bit dumb
Hopefully the whole issues with the Devil's Triad including those convos will be mentionned in the devstream and they'd have taken what people said about it in consideration

[undone lodge]

I’m not saying it would be a good way to handle it

[pure merlin]

I'm aware, lol

[undone lodge]

I’m saying it would have been a better way to handle the approach they chose - the Hex and Triad being okay and accepting with the cheating

[undone lodge]

Ah

[pure merlin]

I did say it could have worked if they did it that way, but imo forcing a breakup would be better

Maybe they'll modify it in the future, hopefully

[undone lodge]

Yeah. I would say better if we just, couldn’t do another romance at all without having a convo/toggle about poly first, but they’ve added “potentially fine with intentionally steering a man toward evil” to Drifter’s characterisation so

Them being unfaithful isn’t really out of the cards now

[pure merlin]

Would be slightly better yeah

Also Roathe is a pretty cool character, but his romance feels kinda toxic at times honestly, like you're just an object
Maybe it's the Orokin mentally, but it's kinda weird, considering in some of his message, he sounds like he could be very loving and sweet

Makes the consent convos even funnier "Hey, I'm cheating on you with a devil who kinda sounds abusive, but we're obviously in love, you're okay with that right ?"

[undone lodge]

Even worse if you go for the villain route

[pure merlin]

If you kind of understand some of the Hex's members mentality, someone like Quincy or Arthur would not stand by you getting into a relationship with an abusive blue guy lmao

[heavy flint]

And Eleanor would be to tell that blue guy was abusive even if you didn’t say anything

[pure merlin]

I'm a bit disappointed with that relationship honestly, he has a lot of potential to be someone passionate and loving, like the man literally cries because he's afraid once you discover more of his memories you'll hate him and you'll be hurt, and then he just constantly call you "pet" and feels demeaning

[heavy flint]

Like, if he trusts you enough to love you, you’d think he’d trust you enough to let the mask down?

[pure merlin]

Ikr, like that only happens once

It's also very clear that he loves you to death, but his voice lines don't show that at all

[undone lodge]

“Hey, [anyone except Amir]+pet name. I know you have a really strong sense of morality and values, but I found another vet like you who was traumatised from the war a past relationship and their toxic society, and he started confiding in me and I kinda used that to guide him towards abandoning the morality he had, even though that doesn’t fit most of the rest of his characterisation I was meant to help him get better. Anyway he’s hot and usually nice so we might’ve got together. That’s okay right?”

[pure merlin]

"Sure yeah go ahead, love you see you at the pizza party tomorrow"

[undone lodge]

Also I know it’s a big reason why he even got made, but I really feel like Roathe should probably have been undateable and taking a break from relationships after all’s said and done

[pure merlin]

You're right honestly

Like he wants to be loved so badly but what he probably needs the most is to heal from his trauma, and finally get along with Lyon and Marie, realize he won't just be used again, made fun of, like he has kind of a family in the Cathédrale, and learn to appreciate the person he can become and accept the things he's done

I don't think Lyon should have been dateable either, he seems to have wayy too much in his head right now to focus on a relationship, it seems like he can never rest, he needs a friend, someone he can count on, but not a lover

[undone lodge]

Tbh you could even make a case for Marie

[pure merlin]

Also a priest having a lover is weird 👀, even if this is technically a fictional religion

[undone lodge]

She has less but she’s still only just solving or “solving” her issues with her relationship with Albrecht

[pure merlin]

Yep
I'd argue she was only created to be dated originally tho

Some people would have been begging constantly to date her

[heavy flint]

I can’t imagine DE making a Wisp protoframe and not making them dateable

[pure merlin]

It's funny too because nuns technically can't have lovers either

Though again, it's a fictional religion and we don't know what priests and nuns can and cannot do

But the catholic references are crazy with the Devil's Triad

[dark remnant]

Yes, exactly. The Faith of the Luminaries is not Catholicism.

[pure merlin]

Yeah, that's what I said ? lol

[undone lodge]

Funny thing is if I remember right they originally wanted to try and avoid outright real religious stuff, so they avoided giving one of the characters a cross

And then, an entire cathedral, complete with a priest, nun and The Devil

Whose 56th twin brother was found crucified

[pure merlin]

Also something of note, in France, the city of Lyon is where Marie is celebrated the 8th of december every year, in an event called "La fête des lumières"

So the references are crazy

It's an old tradition thingy, but that's all straight up taken from catholicism

Luminaries - Lumières

So you'd be kind of guessing Dualism is taking after catholicism a little knowing that fact, and thinking it's still a bit weird for a priest and a nun to be able to have a lover
Though again we still don't know what the "rules" are for this religion

[dark remnant]

Yes and no? It's more that catholicism voraciously devoured traditions from other existing religions during their drive to convert Europe.

[pure merlin]

Not there to talk about propaganda and religions, but you can't deny inspiration was taken from it

Considering the characters are named Lyon and Marie lmao

[dark remnant]

And catholicism took inspiration from the faiths that were there before it, in order to better convert the people who were there before catholisicm existed.

But yes, DE is fond of wordplay like that.

[pure merlin]

That's not what I was talking about but alright ig lol

[steep totem]

Probably
But I'd argue it's an entirely different religion that just so happened to achieve the same popularity in this timeline as Catholicism did in the real world

[pure merlin]

Not there to defend or agree with real life religions, just there to give facts and talk about Dualism

[pure merlin]

Oh yeah most definitely

But the references are kinda funny

[steep totem]

And thus probably absorbed bits of other traditions as it expanded

[pure merlin]

Gotta wonder when people started worshipping Sol and Lua

If it was ageees before xx99 or not too long ago

[steep totem]

When it surged in popularity, or when it actually started?

[pure merlin]

When it actually started

Maaaaybe we'll get more protoframes from further and further away in time and it'll give us more clue as to when people started believing in Dualism

But it would be interesting to know how it started, since it's very popular in xx99 and in 1999

[pastel pasture]

what factions do you think we'll see in Tau?

I think we'll see sentients and maybe murmur at the least

[dark remnant]

There is a cathedral, probably their equivalent of Notre Dame. Given how long it took to build, and how dirty the stone in the room they are in is, the faith of the luminaries has been around for at least fifteen hundred years.

[pure merlin]

Orokin and sentients

Crazy amount of time then

[dark remnant]

And is probably older. The sun and moon have been objects of worship for a very very long time, and there are strong hints that it arose from norse myth. "A place has doubtless been prepared for you in the Hall of Heroes." As Victor often exhorts.

[supple quarry]

Strongly suspecting escaped Orokin Executor at Tau

[pure merlin]

I hope we get more lore on this whole thing, it seems to be getting more and more important each updates

[dark remnant]

I don't think it is getting more important. More of it is being revealed, for sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything other than historical footnotes.

[pure merlin]

I mean, the weird drawings on Lyon depicting Arthur and Loid alongisde probably Lua and Sol 👀

Seems important to me

[pastel pasture]

I honestly still think we'll see an anarch faction too. think about it from a gameplay/atmosphere view.

We get to Tau, Sentients that don't know what happened see us as evil humanity. Orokin there see us as aggressors that ruined everything.

Our one ally and holdout from the two aggressive forces? Remnants of the anarch still living off purer clone DNA

[pure merlin]

Zombified Anarchs...? 👀

[zenith jacinth]

Living zombies aren't a thing, only eidolons

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-but-but-why-gif-13724936

[zenith jacinth]

Because

[strong sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/chickenbecause-becausechicken-because-gif-27394413

[pure merlin]

[zenith jacinth]

I'm gonna poke your pfp

[pure merlin]

Do it

[zenith jacinth]

[strong sentinel]

Change it fast with a closed eye one.

[zenith jacinth]

I knew it

[pure merlin]

That's what I tried to do but there's none where she closes her eyes 😔

That's the best I could get

Day 4 of making Scrap go crazy by changing my pfp everytime he interacts with me

[strong sentinel]

ChatGPT "Close this eye for me" 🧌

[zenith jacinth]

I'm already crazy

[pure merlin]

Omg twiin

Hi Crazy, I'm Mad

[zenith jacinth]

Technically I'm also an eye since my cephalon is just a recolored curse of seeing

Eye sees

[pure merlin]

Must be hard not to be able to scratch your eye sometimes

Y'know, when it itches

[cerulean kiln]

Pokes eye

[zenith jacinth]

It's just light

You're poking light

[cerulean kiln]

That's fine

[undone lodge]

That Anarch one isn’t really feasible

[pastel pasture]

anything is possible because DE can write whatever they want

[undone lodge]

Alright

[pastel pasture]

the onyl arguement i've ever heard for why Anarchs cant be on tau is "supplies"

[undone lodge]

Can’t wait for Kahl to become female Wally who’s actually Loid in Tau

[pastel pasture]

im just saying if you have an arguement itll have to be better then "supplies"

[undone lodge]

Your entire idea for how they survived just, not working

They cannot have magically “purer” clone DNA because their limitation is the same issue as the in-system Grineer

[dire slate]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH. insert the baby saying YEAH! GIF

[undone lodge]

Who also had just fine, purer DNA to start off with

[pastel pasture]

If there are Orokin in Tau then the anarchs wouldn't be forced in the position the grineer are. They'd have functional orokin equipment not being guarded by warframes

[undone lodge]

Oh

So again, Origin system Grineer

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-hockey-kid-yeah-gif-18462482

[undone lodge]

The only way for the Anarchs to get the very specific equipment and more importantly, actual knowledge, to maintain/repair their genetics, would be if they had an Orokin, Archimedean or both who specifically knew the field and was familiar with or in possession of it, on their side

[pastel pasture]

ok

maybe they do.

Nitokh backed them before

we have the hanging plot thread of Nitokh matching up with Garuda giving us the possibility of a protoframe

[thick jolt]

Feels like saryn proto all over

[pastel pasture]

If someone came and told people "we're going to have a orokin protoframe" when 1999 came out people would call them an idiot

everyone would be saying how it's impossible

so express a little doubt in what you think is possible within the story

[thick jolt]

You have to admit a hidden orokin/grineer society in tau of all places after the rest of the old war is pretty far fetched

All to justify a garuda proto?

[pastel pasture]

If you really think we're not going to learn anything about Nitokh...

after how much spotlight she got

when her and Garuda's titles are nearly 1:1

[thick jolt]

Tuvuul also got quite the spotlight back then

And was just killed off screen

[undone lodge]

Yeah, because the existence of protos themselves specifically hinged on Albrecht going back to 1999, before the Orokin, which we had loads of information on and a collaborator with us

It would be stupid to think we’d get one, because it would be impossible. At that point we had a very understanding of the proto’s creation and the story surrounding it

DE sticking another plotline onto that and changing the entire framework doesn’t make having the idea before that change any less ridiculous

[zenith jacinth]

Odds of nitokh being garuda proto are extremely low considering how she's not exactly a chill orokin

[thick jolt]

Even roathe was pretty chill by orokin standards

Like albrecht didnt pick at random

[undone lodge]

If I made some theory that really, Tenno were child soldier warlocks borrowing power from the Void equivalent of a Chaos god, it wouldn’t make it reasonable all of a sudden when it turned out that actually, that was a close enough idea to what happened

[pastel pasture]

I wouldn't call Roathe chill but w/e. we'll just have to wiat until Tau to see

[zenith jacinth]

For an orokin roathe is insanely chill

[thick jolt]

Yeah

[pastel pasture]

im just saying that if we really are getting a star chart 2 then only having one faction would be weird

we're also going to be in tau for awhile given what DE said

so im expecting 2-3 factions and there's only so many possibilities unless DE wants to introduce actual aliens

[zenith jacinth]

We had only 2 or 3 factions for a while

[undone lodge]

Yeah he’s definitely chill by Orokin standards. He comprehends the awfulness of the Yuvans, the general toxicness and of the society and how messed up their institutions were

[zenith jacinth]

In comparison, nitokh was just "I'm bored. Time to kill everyone else"

[undone lodge]

He even wanted to change that and make things better. A twisted idea of what better is on account of being a product and participant of that society but still

[undone lodge]

Roathe 5 months later, sobbing in his room over the death of a Grineer:

[pastel pasture]

if I'm right about there being grineer in tau y'all owe me ONE fish from PoE

[jaunty salmon]

Anyone here for friends?

[pure merlin]

Narmer is your friend, if you let him 👀

[steep totem]

Any fish in particular?
Or would you accept a Goopolla

[pastel pasture]

it is the act of getting a fish i desire

[steep totem]

Good to know

[uncut solar]

This person messaged me and sent the same message in multiple channels.

On one hand, might be a spam bot

[pure merlin]

Oh yeah wtf

[uncut solar]

On the other, a person with questionable communication skills

[pure merlin]

Bring the veil

Just in case

[uncut solar]

None shall be subjected to the veil

For my allies, they must accept reality

For my enemies, they must actually suffer

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-clem-yellow-eyes-gif-14862662

[broken shuttle]

So is Erra like a punk or what or does he come back? He got crushed by a falling boulder

[undone lodge]

That’s Pazuul

One of the 4 Archons, special Sentients inspired by old Earth animals

Now able to be brought back with “anti-entropic” Archon Shards being stuck into them and their heads being attached to a suitable body, like a Warframe or other Sentient

Or just brought back entirely if you’re not a cheapskate bum and spend a few Shards, assuming that they weren’t killed by some weird special thing that prevents it and thats why Narmer don’t give them the Lotus treatment

[zenith jacinth]

That's the least rare kind of fish

I bet one duviri fish that there's no grineer in tau

[undone lodge]

I bet two Golden Maw there’s no Prime Grineer in Tau

And another one that there’s none at all

[zenith jacinth]

Invalid bet

[deft mist]

Theres fish in duiviri?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

Have you never gone "fishing"?
(Controlling a golden maw to eat fish)

[deft mist]

Not yet

[zenith jacinth]

They're technically rare because you can only get ONE random fish per duviri run

[jovial salmon]

TIL u can fish in Duviri

[deft mist]

Same

[pure merlin]

We'll offer Minuet your eye then 👀

[karmic sedge]

Gonna put this here just in case buuuut...

Lyon has this on the cards. I can't help but think that is is the Arthur told in the folklore that our Arthur is named after... and the fact it looks ... well quite a lot like him, I think Lyon might quite enjoy/be flustered by Arthur Nightingale? 😛

[pure merlin]

He also has Loid. I think it's a "prophecy" of some kind to what could happen next in the story, since Lyon kind of sees things
I don't think he's actually aware at who Arthur Nightingale really is

[karmic sedge]

Not until the drifter makes them meet possibly. Also Loid? Where?! I saw a Scarred Priest and a Wisp??

[karmic sedge]

Oh Those are MUCH clearer

[pure merlin]

That's the picture I was sent, I also checked if he had all of those on him and he does

[jaunty salmon]

Anyone for friends?

[karmic sedge]

Hekken Entrati

[pure merlin]

Top left ?

[karmic sedge]

Yah

[pure merlin]

Some people say it's Sol

[karmic sedge]

Closest I'd guess anyways

[pure merlin]

I think it's Velimir

[karmic sedge]

OOoooo

[pure merlin]

And the red fox references Rusalka

Just my theory tho

[karmic sedge]

I want to see Arthur riding a horse 😛

Red fox?

[pure merlin]

He does want to ride Kaithes so 👀

[karmic sedge]

Right!?

[pure merlin]

Kind of looks like a fox

[karmic sedge]

I think those are supposed to be hills?

And that is Lua behind her head

Though it overlaps strange

Maybe a headdress?

[pure merlin]

No like on the "Velimir" one

He has an animal on his shoulder

[karmic sedge]

OH

[hearty pendant]

the hollvanian script under arthur also says something like "Second Son" iirc
do with that what you will

[karmic sedge]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK IF ANYONE KNEW

God I love this community lol

[pure merlin]

On the wiki at the bottom of the comments for Lyon there's translation of the one for Loid too

And Ducky sent them aswell here at some point

[karmic sedge]

OH! The Lua one could be Lotus!

Because the upper half of her face is covered!

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-thats-genius-garret-sutton-reaction-hacks-thats-genius-thats-cool-gif-19267796

[balmy storm]

Top and Right could be Sol and/or Lua
I think both could work for both but Sol is likely on the left with Lua on the right

[karmic sedge]

The Fox on the shoulder really does make sense for it to be Neci

[balmy storm]

Interestingly both have 7 of something relating to them
7 stars
7 rays of light

[pure merlin]

It could be either the gods directly showing the link to Arthur and Loid
Or it could be references to character we know or don't know yet honestly

[karmic sedge]

True!

[balmy storm]

Relating to Sol and Lua makes the most sense

[karmic sedge]

At least currently

Which Wiki is it?

[balmy storm]

The Arthur and Loid link is likely just Albrecht being Albrecht

[karmic sedge]

That has the translations that is

[hearty pendant]

Loid is "First Son" and (likely) Sol is "Reflection"
-# i've not translated any of these myself, credit to Aifrie in the archives server

[karmic sedge]

Well Arthur IS a Second born

[balmy storm]

Yes currently though due to what’s depicted there I’m inclined to say they’re the gods

[karmic sedge]

Nods Though this said, you could liken Albrect to Sol, and Lotus to Lua as well.

[pure merlin]

Far fetched but assuming that 7 means 7 leaders needed, Loid, Arthur, Velimir, Rusalka, Lotus, Operator, Drifter (or 2 characters we haven't met)
Though you could argue Rusalka is not really the leader of the Scaldra

[balmy storm]

I mean I guess :p

I’m not sure how much Albrecht even knows about Lotus

[karmic sedge]

Far fetched, but well within Warframe lore ability

[pure merlin]

I have to find things to write about and theorize about otherwise I'll go crazy before Tau releases 👀

[karmic sedge]

Well he knows a ton about warframes and the tenno it seems, so I'm guessing he would know of at least Marg

[pure merlin]

He probably at least heard about her once

[karmic sedge]

I have a fan made Ember prime story that involves Tau and Albrect being Albrect

[balmy storm]

Seven is just a holy number in some religions
Which I can see translating to Warframe
Plus them having seven of a thing relating to the god just points more towards it being them
Seven stars for Sol
Seven rays for Lua

[pure merlin]

Yeah that also makes sense

[balmy storm]

If he knows anything it’s from the Pom-2

[karmic sedge]

It could also have more than one meaning too!

[pure merlin]

Do you wanna debunk something else I wrote ? To see what you think 😭

[balmy storm]

I mean ultimately these are a very small element that doesn’t even got talked about

[karmic sedge]

Yah but Warframe is good at putting the lore into the smallest details

[balmy storm]

Lyon should say anything about this to Loid but
Doesn’t

[pure merlin]

Theeyy could be important waaayy later down the line

[balmy storm]

Or Liger was just havin fun lol

[karmic sedge]

LMAO truth

[pure merlin]

I think he doesn't like Lotus ? Seeing how sometimes he talks about her

[karmic sedge]

Either way it adds to the world

[balmy storm]

I really doubt that, again this is a very small thing

[karmic sedge]

But it is cool to think about lol

[balmy storm]

It is, theorizing is fun

I think perspective is also just important lol

[karmic sedge]

Course

[pure merlin]

Do we actually know anything about Loid's family ?

[karmic sedge]

I was also just kinda giggling like the deviant I am about boy love because of the card 😛

[balmy storm]

I don’t think so no

[pure merlin]

Mysterious grandpa

[karmic sedge]

The way he was with Operator QQ

[balmy storm]

Closest thing to his family is the family

[hearty pendant]

Marie apparently knows more about him than we do

[balmy storm]

Bruh

Ok no why does she get to know more and then says what she says about him.

[pure merlin]

Why can't she say things instead of attacking Tagfer then jeez

[karmic sedge]

Think of Marie like a favored child

Reality is hard to come to terms with when you spent most of the time putting the wrong people on pedestals

[pure merlin]

Idk if it's written anywhere but what is Loid ?
Was he an orokin? Was he just a normal human? Is he from 1999 and he was brought into the future ?
Always wondered because he doesn't look like everyone

[karmic sedge]

Human

[balmy storm]

Orokin are human

And Loid was never an Orokin

[karmic sedge]

I mean not blue skin Orokin

[pure merlin]

Yeah but I meant more like blueish skin turned white like Albrecht but "because"

[balmy storm]

He’s also def from the future??

[karmic sedge]

Loid helped raise Albrect's daughter

[steep totem]

Reality is hard to come to terms with when you spend most of the time putting people on pedestals

[balmy storm]

Loid is just a normal origin system human

Specifically orokin era but
Yeah no he’s just normal :p

[pure merlin]

He just kind of looks so different from everyone, the way he dresses and everything

[karmic sedge]

You know what... valid. Just valid. No one should ever be on a pedestal, no matter who or how kind.

[balmy storm]

He’s a butler to an Orokin family that was given more freedom than most due to his relationship with Albrecht

[pure merlin]

Yeaah fair

DE we're gonna need more Loid lore

[balmy storm]

Why does Marie get it and then say what she says about him

[karmic sedge]

The way Loid treated Operator... dude I just wanna reach through the damn screen and hug him

[balmy storm]

That’s unfair ):<

It’s a crime we can’t hug him

[pure merlin]

All my homies hate Marie

[karmic sedge]

I don't hate her

I hate things she has done

[balmy storm]

My feelings are mixed but my opinion is skewed as KIM was bugged

[pure merlin]

She never apologized to Tagfer and our one true savior

[karmic sedge]

Nods Yah. As it is I think I'm going to reset and go through it all again... Roathe is going to be PISSED

[balmy storm]

I appreciate much of her and her story, what she represents but in terms of representation and being an intense Albrecht lover, she exists to shoot down those who think he’s wholly good or wholly bad

[steep totem]

I think it'll be worth seeing the new RoathKnowsReset dialogs

[karmic sedge]

I.... could have sworn there was something about that...Again I need to reset and do it all again

[karmic sedge]

Yessssss

[pure merlin]

She does a better job at showing him in an even worse light, by showing how his manipulation runs deep imo

[karmic sedge]

Ngl, I've been reading the flowcharts just because I wanted to know all the things

[balmy storm]

What
Manipulation

[steep totem]

I took a peak in Kimulacrum once
If the first conversation is anything to go by, that's gonna be golden

[balmy storm]

Albrecht didn’t manipulate Marie afaik, he treated her like a normal person and only called upon her and Lyon later to deal with Roathe

[steep totem]

Some people are just overly skeptical

[balmy storm]

She put him on a pedestal for it which
Girl he did the bare minimum calm down

[pure merlin]

I'm not talking about Albrecht anymore here, some people can't stand others opinions and I'm not interested in a fight (Not you Ducky you're great)

[balmy storm]

Marie exists to both show how Albrecht isn’t a wholly good person and he isn’t wholly bad

[karmic sedge]

Albrect is... woefully blind to the negativity his actions leaves behind. My Drifter has no idea how to FEEL about the bugger. Like on one hand, he is TRYING to figure things out and fix shit, on the other... @#$% him because "Tag for desposal"

[pure merlin]

We should give a gun to Tagfer and let him get his revenge 👀

[balmy storm]

I’m just saying it isn’t manipulation really at all, the Orokin aren’t ableist afaik
But I get it if you rather not talk about it due to others

[steep totem]

I don't think he's blind at all to it
He's just..
Choosing to ignore it for the time being

[balmy storm]

He absolutely is not blind, he feels a lot of guilt over what he’s had to do

[karmic sedge]

The Orokin thought flaws were beauty remember

[karmic sedge]

Maybe... But it doesn't seem to really change what he is doing either

[pure merlin]

Their flaws maybe, wouldn't they have others killed for that?

[balmy storm]

He literally feels guilt over what he did to the Cavia

[balmy storm]

Because he doesn’t believe he has a choice, because of what he’s up against

[karmic sedge]

I don't think so?

[steep totem]

Like I said
He's ignoring it for now, and will deal with the aftermath when the "after" comes

[karmic sedge]

I suppose. Still, guilt or not, the actions were done and the trust is ripped away is still well gone

[zenith jacinth]

Excuse you? I offered a valid bet!

[balmy storm]

I’ll be clear with this too, it doesn’t excuse his actions but just explains them
The fact he feels guilt for what he’s had to do is good

[balmy storm]

Yeah ofc lmao

[pure merlin]

But you'd make a great lamp too

[balmy storm]

Ballas could feel guilt and I wouldn’t care
He wouldn’t
Like most Orokin wouldn’t
But Albrecht showing that he feels guilty about what he’s had to do is good

[karmic sedge]

Not to mention... he could have figured out a NICER way to make us reset instead of freaking shooting us in the gorram heart because we told him no lmao

[balmy storm]

Yeah I’m not saying he’s a good guy lmao

[zenith jacinth]

Ask nemesis why that wouldn't be possible

[karmic sedge]

And Roathe I think. After talking to him more. It isn't guilt per say, but he does not exactly like the "evil" he has had to do either

[pure merlin]

Well, doesn't mean we can't try 👀

[karmic sedge]

Wait Squints What is Tenno helper role?

Doesn't spend much time in the discord

[steep totem]

For helping new players

[balmy storm]

Yeah that makes sense
The Orokin tend to become more human when faced with mortality lmao

[pure merlin]

You're a tenno and you help

[karmic sedge]

Oh... well... yah?!

Kinda the main thing about the community >.<

[zenith jacinth]

Optional role to say "hey, I'm willing to help out"

[karmic sedge]

Must have tossed it on ages ago lmao

I was concerned it might have been like a hidden founder role I hadn't realized existed and was like "No dude, don't out me like that! People will expect I KNOW stuff!" lmao

[pure merlin]

We should bring back Ballas

[balmy storm]

I will throw you into the sun (affectionate)

[pure merlin]

By writing this does that mean you're a founder ? 👀

[pure merlin]

Yum, a snack

[balmy storm]

Ok grandma calm down

[karmic sedge]

If only to enjoy his death in a more satisfying way. (I get it, he was human too, not all bad, loved and things, but Dude can kick rocks for eternity)

[steep totem]

Praghasa identified

[karmic sedge]

Ahhh... yah -.- lol

I've been playing the damn game WAY too long

[steep totem]

Provide proof
Present your Excalibur Prime

[pure merlin]

I second this

[balmy storm]

Oh no he was all bad
Only “good” was the hour of legit love he felt for Margulis

[karmic sedge]

Ah see, my ex and I only had enough money for one of us to get the prime. He played more than I at the time so he got the prime and I just got disciple.

[pure merlin]

If Ballas doesn't come back as our new leader, it has to be Bird 3

[karmic sedge]

All hail Bird 3

[pure merlin]

I won't accept any other opinion

[zenith jacinth]

Old

[balmy storm]

Bird 3 has the best voicelines

[steep totem]

...didn't know there was a Founder pack that didn't come with Excal

[balmy storm]

Go through all of them right now

[karmic sedge]

😭

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/roathe-bird-3-cavia-hug-warframe-gif-13086288884118841888

[karmic sedge]

Yup! There were like.. 3 levels or something iirc?

4'

Disciple, Hunter, Master, Grandmaster

[steep totem]

Yeah
But the way I understood it, all three came with Excalibur

[balmy storm]

3?
Like
Bird 3?

[zenith jacinth]

Karma hit me instantly, stem broke off the banana I tried to peel

[pure merlin]

Do you have Mag and Frost Heirloom?

[steep totem]

Oh, 4

Four levels, okay

[karmic sedge]

No... QQ I wasn't playing Warframe during that time like an absolute dingus

[balmy storm]

Soulframe’s has 4

It’s just done way better
They learned!

[pure merlin]

The armors looks soooo goooood

[steep totem]

Eh
3 of the same level, and one bigger
really, it's only 2 levels

[zenith jacinth]

I am exceptionally angry about my inability to buy soulfram founders

[balmy storm]

I mean its still 4 but yes technically only 2 different tiers

[balmy storm]

What ): noooo

[karmic sedge]

Honestly, I know they wont do it, but if they ever offered the Founders an option to upgrade their Founder status, I'd save up for it and do it in a heartbeat. Not because of the loot(Other than the badge), but because I love the game

[balmy storm]

But
We could be green together

[pure merlin]

What "class" did you choose ?

[karmic sedge]

I too went healer 😛

[zenith jacinth]

I gotta go through the effort of setting up online banking for my bank account -.-

[zenith jacinth]

Tethren

[balmy storm]

Ah
That’s rough buddy

[karmic sedge]

Also I think we have to stick to Warframe in these chats? Since Soalframe got its own public discord yah?

[pure merlin]

Hell yeaaaah twinn

[steep totem]

...maybe they might
No new Founders, yeah, that got shot down
But Founder upgrades might be worth presenting

[balmy storm]

Yeah best to swap back
It has been talked about in here before for a bit tho but that was in relation to WF
Which this somewhat is cause founders
Anywho

[pure merlin]

Clem or Avakot ?

[balmy storm]

Clem

[karmic sedge]

Clem

[pure merlin]

What's wrong with Avakot 😔

[balmy storm]

I love the avacado
He ain’t Clem

[karmic sedge]

Not Clem

[pure merlin]

OI, LEGGYY

[karmic sedge]

LMAO Ducky WHEEZE

[steep totem]

No Grakata

[balmy storm]

Clem’s origins surpass Avakot in every way

[pure merlin]

But you get to destroy his leaf self at regatta

[karmic sedge]

Clem came from Warframe Meme. He IS the community humor in Grineer form

[steep totem]

more like he destroys me

[balmy storm]

Avakot is marketable plushie

[pure merlin]

You're losing against Avakot ? 👀

[steep totem]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-gonna-tell-you-again-james-reece-chris-pratt-the-terminal-list-i-wont-say-it-again-gif-26078682

[balmy storm]

We could see another Clem situation eventually but I’m unsure of that occurring as Soulframe’s early points won’t be like Warframe’s

[karmic sedge]

Do you guys know Why Clem is a thing? What the meme was?

[steep totem]

Silly comic made by Warframe player
Devs liked it
Added to game

[karmic sedge]

Sort of. There is more to it than that

[steep totem]

Datareaper has since passed on, sadly

[balmy storm]

“Get clem”
Became a meme
Comic with Clem
Got added as a quest and character

[steep totem]

That's the important part though

[karmic sedge]

Nono the important part is the Get Them part nod nod

[pure merlin]

Clem wasn't there during the New War because his aura would have destroyed the universe if he intervened

[balmy storm]

Datareaper also designed the Tonfas iirc?
Or maybe it was the Kronen idr

[steep totem]

He designed a lot of stuff

[hearty pendant]

i think it was the Kronen yea

[balmy storm]

Or Darvo’s a good rommate and knows when to hold back his bestie
Either way Clem would have solo’d narmer

[pure merlin]

Oh yeah, thank god Darvo held him back

Bromius or Clem? 👀

[karmic sedge]

I'm sorry, I love Soulframe, but my heart is devoted to Clem

[pure merlin]

How could you do this to Bromius 😭

[balmy storm]

Like its just gonna be Clem every time

You know that
I know that
Clem knows that

[karmic sedge]

I am a loyal and stubborn F

[pure merlin]

I'm tempted to say something controversial again

But you'd send me back in the void

[karmic sedge]

We go to the void all the time

Well... you do if you are trying to farm rep for Zariman decorations -.-

[pure merlin]

I know Ducky would be capable of throwing me straight into the sun or locking me into the void for years to come if I ever critized Clem

[balmy storm]

Technically one version of us is always there if they’re both in the same spacetime zone

[karmic sedge]

Are they? I thought the Drifter and the Operator were able to exist in real space together now?

[balmy storm]

No?

Only when on the edge of or in the void

[karmic sedge]

Huh

[balmy storm]

This still applies

[karmic sedge]

OOOooooo

Thanks for that! That helps clear some things I was confused about tbh lmao

[pure merlin]

What about at the end of The New War ? When we sit down Lotus before choosing who she is, where are they?

[karmic sedge]

Sanctum irrc?

[balmy storm]

What?

They’re actively swapping between the two

[pure merlin]

Never noticed that ig

[balmy storm]

When one is in realspace the other is in the void, watching

They have a unique effect for the swap too

[solid otter]

Mhm. The edge of the Sanctum and Zariman, both void heavy areas.

[karmic sedge]

Its been a hot min since that moment. I can't fully remember lmao

[balmy storm]

Though considering the Zariman it does still seem their time is limited

[solid otter]

Mm, that could be from the whole

[karmic sedge]

I'm half tempted to make a new account and start over again to re live the story

[solid otter]

... hole.

[balmy storm]

This was before it was plugging the hole

[pure merlin]

You can replay some quests 👀

[balmy storm]

It didn’t do that til Angels

[solid otter]

Xata...

[karmic sedge]

Some but not all... and it doesn't FEEL the same

[pure merlin]

True true

[balmy storm]

It never fully will ):

[cerulean kiln]

Even making a new account it won't

[solid otter]

I just wished I remembered how I felt when playing whispers for the first time

[pure merlin]

Nemesis, can you transform a Cephalon into a lamp?

[uncut solar]

"just tell them they're beautiful, they'll light up with joy"

[balmy storm]

YAOI!!

[cerulean kiln]

Let's glass you and find out

[pure merlin]

Can we try on Scrap first?

[solid otter]

Dawg im deadass, I knew they're gay the moment I saw them but I genuinely cant tell you the feeling I had 😭

I realised Ticker was some form of queer the moment I met her

[cerulean kiln]

@zenith jacinth will it work?

[karmic sedge]

I knooooooowwwwwwwww. But also... I've been playing for so long I've forgotten more than I remember, not to mention for some of it I was rushing to catch up so I didn't actually enjoy it.

I'd die to have a "Up till now" arching quest for people that have completed all current main story quests, with little tidbits/story teller blurbs about which warframe/side quests would fit where between each playable section of the summary story

[fierce kiln]

eventually there will be founders for consoles, so you could wait and then buy it via console giftcard credit

which may aswell be years away from now

[uncut solar]

Maybe they'll do something like that when the wrap up on void war is in sight

At least, as a video or something

[karmic sedge]

It would be amazing if they could, but I do know that kind of undertaking is NOT small.

[pure merlin]

When did you start playing ?

[zenith jacinth]

I don't have a console that'll get soulfram

[cinder marten]

so we gotta wait till friday for a new update?

[boreal pewter]

I find it bizarre that Lua doesn't seem to be one of those rare places because they do the switch thing seemingly there with the Lotus after the new war, but yet this is the planetary body the orokin used for void rituals and other weird void stuff happens like the spy vaults.

[pure merlin]

They'll announce the date of the update on friday

[cinder marten]

oh guess it'll be a long while then

[pure merlin]

There could be an hotfix next week
But they said absolutely nothing concerning a new hotfix on the devshort so, still gotta wait for now

[young talon]

I'm weak, why did they make Roathe growl like that

[deft mist]

Cause they know the player base

[young talon]

Honestly valid.

[deft mist]

Come on citrines red text is bad enough

[zenith jacinth]

Madness asked because she wants to turn me into a lamp, I told her she should ask you why that wouldn't work

[uncut solar]

Last devshort they said they're cutting back on the gooner appeal a bit

[young talon]

Think you mean down bad enough.

[deft mist]

And vorunas red text to

[zenith jacinth]

There is no citrine red text in ba-sing-se

[deft mist]

Oh

[zenith jacinth]

Really?

[deft mist]

Press x to doubt

[uncut solar]

Probably due to all the mixed results with how somewhat forced the triad ended up being

[young talon]

I dont know how forced it felt. I liked all 3 of the stories'

[uncut solar]

Not saying that about their stories, it's good

[zenith jacinth]

More likely due to the general complaints that the game is pandering too much towards those

[uncut solar]

But they kinda come out of complete nowhere, and I feel like "it's not cheating if it's time travel" has bitten Steve in the ass like that one time when he said "Diddy Baro" on stream

[deft mist]

Oh

Fair

[zenith jacinth]

He didn't even say the time travel thing tho

[uncut solar]

Oh wait who was it

[young talon]

Eh. They have significance. And honestly? They adressed the cheating thing by adding the ask for consent thing from partner

[uncut solar]

I might've forgotten who it was

[zenith jacinth]

EXTREMELY poorly

[uncut solar]

Someone surely said it

[zenith jacinth]

Think it was rebb

[uncut solar]

Diddy Baro, never forget

[zenith jacinth]

Having to cheat before optionally asking for consent is bloody pointless

[uncut solar]

Yeah Triad was handled well in everything except everything that comes with romancing them...

[zenith jacinth]

Should've left them unromanceable

[young talon]

Thats fair. I like them being romanceable, but the option shoulda come up with the confession.

[pure merlin]

You called ?

[zenith jacinth]

Wisp nun is so blatantly designed for the goons

[uncut solar]

I'm no puritan but it feels like they've gotten over their heads a bit with Triad romance stuff

Hopefully things will be more tasteful in the next update

[zenith jacinth]

👁️👈

[deft mist]

Yep

[uncut solar]

Because they sure as hell won't be skipping more protos

Everyone talks about protos, always

Lightning in a bottle, if you can even call it that

[deft mist]

So is roathe though

[deft mist]

Even eleanor

[zenith jacinth]

Different

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-chip-lazar-chris-redd-saturday-night-live-my-eye-gif-18787807

[deft mist]

True but damn

[zenith jacinth]

Wisp was already very popular amongst the goons, and nuns are extremely fetishized

[pure merlin]

Everyone wants to bang a nun but nobody asks how a nun's doing

[zenith jacinth]

My opinion on the most common reaction to eleanor is negative too

[uncut solar]

Couldn't romance the parasite in my head in bg3, ended up doing it in warframe

(I have not romanced anyone)

[zenith jacinth]

Technically could tho

[pure merlin]

The Emperor ?? 👀

[uncut solar]

No the tadpole

[pure merlin]

But there's the emperor

[uncut solar]

Narrator often comments on the feeling you have from it

[zenith jacinth]

The emperor is the greater parasite

[pure merlin]

The Emperor is best character ever

10/10 would become a mindflayer again

[uncut solar]

I was very much on his side, but taking his side also means taking the same terms with screwing him over

I find it funny how you can just "live up to his expectations" but still screw him over because he's still in the wrong even if you might share his pragmatic views

[zenith jacinth]

The emperor is overly controlling calamari-to-be

[pure merlin]

So you choose to free a green guy ?

Instead of the very handsome tentacle boi?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[uncut solar]

Ofc, become the squid and free the green guy

[pure merlin]

Blasphemy

Make the Grand Design great again

[uncut solar]

I support the means Emperor had, he doubtfully had any other way to do it, but his final part of the plan is also utter dogshit in terms of balancing scales so I'd rather expend him too

[zenith jacinth]

Look, I like tentacles as much as the next deviant, but the emperor is a controlling idiot who gets pissy the instant you deny him

[uncut solar]

[pure merlin]

I meaaaan, he can kill you on the brain, steal your stones, and stop the brain himself

Sooo, still smarty boi

[zenith jacinth]

More likely that he fails spectacularly

[uncut solar]

I understand his perspective of needing manipulation to not get murdered on the spot, but he was also a massive coward so he needed to go even if he had a point up until now

When he shat his pants

[pure merlin]

He doesn't have a behind to do that 👀

[zenith jacinth]

Hmmm idea though... btw we should get back on topic

[copper scroll]

i accidently misclicked a chat on warframe and now i need to restart because now i cant get the butler to fsce his truth will this make roath go villiain if i restart?

[uncut solar]

Psychically shat his pants

[pure merlin]

So it doesn't smell like garlic anymore

[copper scroll]

roathe asked if i still love him but i accidently pressed no

[misty veldt]

May I ask how many years you need to play to not be considered a baby tenno. Im just curious and the thought came to mind

[uncut solar]

I don't think it's a matter of time

[zenith jacinth]

It's more a knowledge thing than a time thing

[uncut solar]

I can be called a baby tenno but geniunely can say with confidence that I understand more stuff than at least 90% of players

It's all about learning

[misty veldt]

Noted

[uncut solar]

[deft mist]

I think the only ones considered not to be baby is founders and people who do damage cap with every weapon and frame

[copper scroll]

does roathes villian arc happen immediately or should i just be careful?

[misty veldt]

Duly noted

[deft mist]

Like even i know a bunch but ive been playing for 6 to 8 months

[uncut solar]

Nah that's bs

The only things that put the difference between Tenno and Baby Tenno are

• New war
• ???
• Desire to learn

[deft mist]

Oh

Well i have new war done

[zenith jacinth]

No those are fossils and timewasters respectively

[uncut solar]

If you have the will to read wiki for stuff you are already more knowledgeable than most players lol

[deft mist]

Yeah i do that for gems

[timid briar]

Is there anyway I can speed up the Descendia grind for Roathe? I'm on my 9th run.

[deft mist]

Heciphron is an ass

[pure merlin]

Like to kill Roathe multiple times ?

[zenith jacinth]

Only do the fight

[timid briar]

That counts?

[zenith jacinth]

Obv

[pure merlin]

Yes

[timid briar]

Okay, sweet.

I'm glad I don't have to do the Descendia 21 times.

[zenith jacinth]

Yea, though fighting roach 21 times is still a pain

[timid briar]

True.

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/roach-dance-cockroach-dancing-dancing-cockroach-gif-2274000660641203258

If you have a good weapon each Roathe fight can take a minimum of 30s or less

[deft mist]

Uriel is fun to use just mine aint built well

[obtuse gyro]

I just used my good ol crit laetum

he stands still for the first 3 seconds after dashing past me

so I get to charge it up really quick

[tight pagoda]

The longest part is the chair ngl

Which is why a shotgun helps

[uncut solar]

I imagine from his perspective the chair is the longest part too

[wary swift]

So with Roathe I’ve had the 21 runs done. He’s on day 2 pestering me to reset and I’m still trying to change his mind after day 1 of wishing me luck. Day 2 He said no to me asking if I could change his mind. After his rep went to neutral. I reset its close again. Will he ever stop pestering me to reset because I won’t ever do that? And accept my help because it’s kinda annoying and I want to help him like I did Lyon 🥲

Idkn if anyone else is in the same boat or issue but mannnn does little stuff like this drive me up a wall lol

[steep totem]

Erm
I don't think you were supposed to do all 21 fights that quickly

[wary swift]

Well I got the achievement yesterday. During the first week I did a bit of the descendia (the full thing for normal and steel path) and then just the final floor for the blueprints in general. Besides that it was just doing it twice weekly since launch and yesterday is when I got his last voice mail. With the issue I said I got anathema under his name again lol

[obtuse gyro]

theyre not on 1.2

theyre on like roathe rank 5 after roathe whines about his memories

[obtuse gyro]

what exactly did roathe say at the end

theres like a pretty good chance lyon can help you here

[wary swift]

Yeah it’s constant whining now. I had the cutscene you get happen before I even finished all his conversations this week before the whining kicked in lol. At one point I had him thanking me for not going further? (Yet I went further 🥲)

I had the “He are are and here we shall remain in this purgatory. I hope you enjoy it here as I do not think we shall ever go a step further” as the conversation starter today.

The end of the conversation he said “No. And I am no longer in the mood to assist you in such matters”

[obtuse gyro]

ok baller I can pinpoint exactly where you are

yea so, your next conversation with lyon will save the situation

[obtuse gyro]

provided you dont somehow bungle up your second chance

[wary swift]

Yeah I finished Lyons conversations. I’ve had him help with Roathe once already but can’t tell if it was due to glitches with chat or choices (usually I’m good with them lol) also before what I said Roathe me description of our friendship was like I could romance him and such (I’m with Marie) but that’s just what it said. Now it’s I’ve done something to upset him alongside unfortunately there’s only one way forward as the other

[obtuse gyro]

No uh, that conversation with roathe you just had should trigger a future conversation with lyon about roathe

so which lyon will ask you to secure marie's help, and the two of them will pester roathe

[wary swift]

I guess I’ll wait till tomorrow and before I make the choices look up the Kim chart path. He did not like me saying if I could change his mind and instantly went offline. Got his memories as the deal then this all this 😅

I guess it will also be lyons 2nd time to help and Marie’s first as you said because he’s only ever helped with Roathe.

[karmic sedge]

God I don't know the exact year.... long ass time. I've been playing DE games since Dark Sector 😛

[deft mist]

Nice

[red kiln]

is there a bug with Lyon's KIM chat? I've had this interaction with him for the last two days and he doesn't say anything past this point

it's like he just falls asleep at the computer and then never presses enter

[pastel pasture]

it's a bug with everyone

it just gets stuck on. doesn't mean theres a message you don't see

also speaking of KIM

did DE say they are taking a break from KIM? or was that reddit misinformation

[obtuse gyro]

if they can't provide a source...

[pastel pasture]

They provided an image of Reb mid sentence

Does that count

[obtuse gyro]

does the sentence actually say what they claim?

[pastel pasture]

It was an image

So no I suppose

[obtuse gyro]

or is it just a still of reb with no text

[pastel pasture]

Yes

[obtuse gyro]

then you suppose correctly, that aint worth didilly

[pastel pasture]

yo aint tensions that dude who lives in Duviri

[obtuse gyro]

yea next to that child king anthrax

[pastel pasture]

i love how...dumb? Kim can be sometimes

you get Quincy to get Elenore to give you a second chance after you messed up dating her

you can just go "nvm don't wanna date you anymore."

[deft mist]

What are those are those like liches kinda?

[pastel pasture]

you've never had a coda before?

[deft mist]

Not yet

[pastel pasture]

must have gone into 1999 with an adversary already

[deft mist]

I havent done much in 1999

[pastel pasture]

someone in this chat disagrees with me

[deft mist]

Probably

[pastel pasture]

but it's hard to avoid getting a coda

[deft mist]

I need to kill that lich on earth

[pastel pasture]

you go into a mission. see a marker on the map, you go to it and it says pick up so you do it

then the game gives you an objective waypoint. you follow it. start a hack

then no matter what you do you get a coda

[deft mist]

Hm

[pastel pasture]

zero warning you're about to spawn one

[deft mist]

Oh thats how those get spawned

Thx

[pastel pasture]

i suppose its easy to accidentally summon a kuva lich too but at least there's a bit more chance for you to realize something is up

[deft mist]

Tentt is a bit harder

[pastel pasture]

yeah by the time you get a sister candidate you've probably already had a lich at least

[deft mist]

I want to send my lich into orbit but i need to get the mods

[pastel pasture]

you can tempt me into giving you an oull if you say the right combination of words

[deft mist]

Id rather figure it out by myself

Thank you though

[pastel pasture]

not too sure what you want to figure out that an oull would ruin but 👍

[deft mist]

Whats that

[pastel pasture]

wildcard requiem mod

[deft mist]

Oh

Huh

[pastel pasture]

if you get into lich hunting you wind up with a ton

so much so they aren't actually worth that much plat

eeh actually price is up rn

[deft mist]

Ive seen some weird named liches on reddit

[pastel pasture]

i once saw a coda named like

[deft mist]

I saw a lich name sugor kokk

[pastel pasture]

im pretty sure im remembering this right

but it was bunny.girlsmasher or something

[deft mist]

🤣 🤣 🤣

Nice

Im going to try to get a mote support frame so i cam carry the other people in my guild when we find a time to play

Ill probably get dante

[lean cedar]

Chat. Chat. Chat, emergency.

How do I come out of this single, chat.

[rancid pilot]

Why?

Wait ,i misread that, you come out of it single 100% of the time

[lean cedar]

Because I am a man of tentacular tongue-action first and foremost.

[solid otter]

Eugh.

[lean cedar]

Hey, DE is the one who gave me the option.

(I find Eleanor more intriguing as a character.)

[rancid pilot]

I didn't pick her, but, I understand

[solid otter]

And you were the person who said that.

[lean cedar]

I see no reason to deceive.

[rancid pilot]

But yeah, that lettie convo is just bordering the edge of being romantic flirting and platonically flirting

[lean cedar]

Ahh.

[rancid pilot]

So don't worry too much about it

[lean cedar]

Mm, fair.

[median hearth]

I still find it funny that despite dating roathe when the game had the most recent hotfix it put roathes status as ‘Anathema’ and yet he's still dating 😭 I still find it funny anyone else had this problem yet on the plus side I got to reunite loid, downside? No kiss yet from roathe and now he hates me….again somehow

[zenith jacinth]

That is ew

[fathom nexus]

I think Proto Garuda is Nitokh
DE mentioned they'll talk about Garuda lore in next DEvstream.

[solid otter]

I dont think we're getting more protos.

[fathom nexus]

Good point considering DE said they wanna focus more of the sci-fi part

They also said they have a bad news which I think will be about some gameplay rather than non-gameplay stuff

[last snow]

Anyone know the full lore to dark Neptune?

[rain dew]

wth is dark neptune??

[zenith jacinth]

What are you talkin about

[last snow]

Dude

Im talking about dark neptune

what are you asking me 😭

[zenith jacinth]

That's not a thing

[bronze beacon]

Gang I’m at a crossroads. Lyon is like “bro I lost my faith and got guidence” and I don’t know whether to say “…Sorry?” or “Hear me out…god did this.”

[rain dew]

I’m gonna assume it’s a brainrot thing

[bright meteor]

whos sister 5 of the operator i hear it in https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1463182389265305660

[last snow]

That’s what im wondering

I was asking for the full lore on it but nobody seems to know

[rain dew]

because it’s not a thing

[last snow]

Then why is everyone talking about it huh

I’ve seen the videos.

[rain dew]

Okay

Show me the videos then

[obtuse gyro]

Hell youve posted the videos lmao

[last snow]

Theltakinglegend has made videos

I sent them to this discord a few times

[obtuse gyro]

ever considered that they're just fan made lol

[bright meteor]

dark neptune is in reach.

anyo thought he could keep it from the tenno

i am the sole researcher of the inner workings of anyos little "experiment" and the risks involved with dark neptune and merging it with neptune from 1999

but if anyone finds anything out about this little enigma @ me

[zenith jacinth]

Hey it says gullible on the ceiling

[bronze beacon]

Oh it’s a meme

[last snow]

It’s not a meme

[bronze beacon]

It’s definitely a meme

[last snow]

???? Its literally in game mate

[fathom nexus]

Everything's a meme

[last snow]

go to Fortuna and look into the sky

[zenith jacinth]

No

[bright meteor]

reset the index in the fortuna sky