#spoiler-chat

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worn fjord
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Also my fav notes has to be this:

“…But as the days melted away, I came to recognize the strange cast of characters Euleria had created, and their purpose. I heard voices I had myself first conjured in the darkness of her childhood chambers, for no other reward than her delight. She had not only preserved this gift I had thought so trivial, she had made it an instrument of healing. More: a stronghold.”

“Despite my legacy of neglect, despite my shoddy example, my needs, my demands, my daughter had triumphed in my absence. Her confidence, her warmth, shamed me. I had fled from the horror, but she? She had stood alongside the most vulnerable, those with the most to lose, and told them a different story.”

“I did not perceive the significance of Euleria's stance at first. Her concern for the children was not merely pastoral attentiveness. It was a direct strike against the Indifference. She was teaching the weak to be strong in the very places where those cold fingers could reach, and through her act of compassion, spitting in the face of alienation and despair.”

“Could I do less?”

“Shame is an inert state, but fertile. It primes the mind, bolstering it for repentance.”

“I had thought to make a difference in Duviri. But Duviri had made a difference in me. My own daughter's creations, reverberating and growing in the womb of the Void, had shown me another path than that of the indulgent coward. I was neither helpless nor irredeemable. Like she had, I could fight.”

solid otter
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Ihh go mother somehow understanding Albrecht better than most people

solid otter
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MY SHAYLA

worn fjord
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And then that whole line about shame

runic matrix
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i know that alot of the items that used to only be possible to aquire once are now available via simaris. is there any items i need to watch out for that are still a one time aquisition however?

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tried looking to see if anyone had any lists on the wiki or forumn but couldnt find anything

worn fjord
solid otter
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They do they do

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I need to see loid high as well

worn fjord
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I forgot the exact words

solid otter
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He has his flaws or whatever

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She kinda turned out to like

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Have BPD or some shit. Similar enough

worn fjord
solid otter
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Shes not mentally stable for a lot of that

worn fjord
solid otter
worn fjord
fringe pond
worn fjord
# fringe pond Vilcor can’t catch a break dude

Right… || “Her husband, Father, would attempt to console her, telling her to put the shard away and move on. However, Mother angrily attacked him, repeatedly cutting and lacerating him with the shard while the children looked on.” ||

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That was….

fringe pond
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Kaelli also is the ||reason he has no arm,|| apparently

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So that’s fun

worn fjord
fringe pond
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I mean he can still somehow assemble guns with big ass arm

worn fjord
cerulean kiln
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Infestation also saw it irrelevant to regrow his arm

worn fjord
fringe pond
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I wanna see Vilc with a necramech arm someday

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He deserves the limb

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Hopefully the infestation won’t eat it

worn fjord
cerulean kiln
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Infestation only repairs what it deems worth repairing

fringe pond
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Rank 5 Entrati should have given him an arm smh

fringe pond
worn fjord
cerulean kiln
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At least Infestation saw Umbras face worth repairing

fringe pond
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If anything it appears to have freaked out in the region his arm cut off

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It’s all raw and red
And like, halfway across his body

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I see him scratch it sometimes
Freaks me out

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Especially with how sharp his nails look

worn fjord
cerulean kiln
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Infestation could’ve gave Marie feet but because the frame floats didn’t

worn fjord
fringe pond
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I mean yeah
At that point it’d just be redundant

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Why feet if you’re never gonna use them

worn fjord
# fringe pond Why feet if you’re never gonna use them

It does bother her though

“Do you know how tiring it is to have to float all the time, jour après jour, heure après heure, when others may walk ?”

“I am ravie to be so mobile, to be able to reach anything I wish, do not mistake me. But it is still so exhausting !!”

fringe pond
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Mm fair
Commission mech legs from Vilcor when he gets his new arm :3

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Or feet specifically ig

cerulean kiln
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Maybe he likes not having an arm

fringe pond
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Idk he seems pretty miserable

cerulean kiln
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The whole family was miserable till we showed up

worn fjord
deft mist
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How i see him he sees what he does is that its regrettably is necessary

fathom nexus
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Hear me out!
Oxylus Prime could arrive in Tau update.
Tenno will use several of those to plant xenoflora which were grown by Hunhow on UrAnus.

solid otter
worn fjord
# deft mist She wants to be normal i feel

Yea she states:

“But it is like you said, non ? All inconveniences like ours come with a secret power. We must simply find them.”

“But I know your frustration. Oh, I know it well. I sometimes would sit there and stare at a book on the top row of a case and think how unjust it was that I could not reach it.”

“That it contained knowledge that I cared about, no one else, so why was I denied it ? And along would come some helpful soul who would pluck it from its place for me out of pity...”

“Oui ! It is not their fault, for they are doing an act of kindness - I needed the help. And it is not their fault that I needed it. But oh, how frustrating it is to need that assistance.”

“Ah, it just brings me happiness to know that someone here understands what it is like. It is so rare. This silent, unseen plague we suffer.”

worn fjord
deft mist
worn fjord
deft mist
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Well i didnt click confess feelings

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But i did apparently the best options for his convos apparently

worn fjord
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But how did you make Marie angry? IvaraLurk

worn fjord
deft mist
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Entrati

worn fjord
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Ah yes not surprising

deft mist
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Yep

deft mist
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The one where marie said shes the daughter that didnt abandon entrati

worn fjord
deft mist
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Same with tagfer that one shocked me

solid otter
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AND NOT HER BLAMING THE FAMILY FOR HIM NOT RETURNING

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That shit genuinely made me hate her

deft mist
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Im going to try to reset them and see if i can a better convo with her

solid otter
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Like.

If mother heard that, and she was anything under r5 family, Marie, you might get murdered.

worn fjord
solid otter
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Thar argument is supposed to happen regardless

worn fjord
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Yea it’s supposed to happen

flat pilot
worn fjord
flat pilot
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we won

worn fjord
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LETS GOOOOO

solid otter
deft mist
solid otter
flat pilot
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i think our time has come chat

worn fjord
solid otter
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LOID.

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LOID PLEASE STOP BEING A STUPID IDIOT

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GO UPSTAIRS.

deft mist
solid otter
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MOTHER MISSES YOU. SHE MISSES YOU SO MUCH.

solid otter
deft mist
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Thats also a reason i want to reset

worn fjord
solid otter
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They should be able to fix it w out reset

worn fjord
solid otter
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The booleans should all be active still

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I hope.

worn fjord
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Hoping

solid otter
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Ough cramps.

limpid gale
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Will we get a “Brethren Moon” moment in the future for Deimos?

solid otter
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A what

worn fjord
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Lmao I got confused too

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Brethren moon?? What’s that

gray dagger
worn fjord
solid otter
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"Fixed Loid missing his glasses and issues with Roathe's clothes in the reunion cinematic." NOOOOOOO

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I NEVER GOT TO SEE ROATHE W OUT HIS LOINCLOTH IN MY GAME

flat pilot
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naked roathe??? i want it

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dang it DE

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hell yea

night zephyr
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They fixed the reuniting soft locks yay

hallow wharf
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🥹🥹

jagged summit
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Yo praying this hotfix is the one and I can finally jump Roathe’s bones 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

solid otter
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MNO SBIG

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SHIT SHIT SHIT

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SHIT. SHIT SHIT. THIS ISNT GOOD.

worn fjord
solid otter
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WHAT THE SHIT

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NO

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ITS

ITS WORSE

ITS GOTTEN WORSE

flat pilot
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im scared

solid otter
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WHAT THE SBIT

worn fjord
solid otter
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I DIDNT CHOOSE THOSE OPTIONS

flat pilot
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OH

hallow wharf
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Oh dear💔💔

flat pilot
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WHAT

solid otter
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WHAT THE SHIT

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WHAT THE SHIT IM LITERALLY DATING LYON

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HOW DID THEY MESS IT UP MORE

flat pilot
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HAHHAHWDWADHWBD

worn fjord
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istg if this happens to me….

solid otter
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HOW DID THEY MANAGE THIS

night zephyr
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LMAOOOOO

worn fjord
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Logging on rn

solid otter
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GENUINELY HOW

flat pilot
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fix one thing and break another i love it

solid otter
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WHAT THE ABSOLUTE SHIT

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Im so done.

Im so done chat

night zephyr
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I'm sorry for your pain but it's really funny

worn fjord
solid otter
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I JUST WANTED LOID TO BE HAPPY

solid otter
flat pilot
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im confused what was this conversation????

solid otter
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What the hell man.

worn fjord
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LMAO

night zephyr
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Well they said tried

worn fjord
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what a bug

flat pilot
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thats a W honestly

pure merlin
solid otter
night zephyr
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Yeah

solid otter
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I DIDNT DO THAT

night zephyr
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So what now he's pissy and won't help you

solid otter
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I DIDNT CHOOSE THAT

night zephyr
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?

jagged sable
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fingers crossed hoping to god I'm not screwed still

flat pilot
night zephyr
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hrmmm

flat pilot
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nooo im scared

primal gyro
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aand the verdict is...
my thing kinda bugged out. still. again.

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🙃

steel mantle
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what was the point of this hotfix if now i've gone from weird limbo state best friends to "roathe doesn't like you because you didn't do that one specific convo which never showed up, ur in anathema and u have to reset"

pure merlin
solid otter
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No bcs its literally same shit but worse

solid otter
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Same shit different horse

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WAIT

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THATS NOT HOW THE SAYING GOES

primal gyro
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now i know this is bugged as hell cuz my dialogue with roathe suddenly changed when i opened the logs

flat pilot
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LMAO

solid otter
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Apolocheese its 7am and I haven't slept

night zephyr
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You mean you haven't slept all night

flat pilot
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go rest big boy

solid otter
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Mhm

pure merlin
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Reb didn't really mention the chats yesterday, she said the profile notes for the Triad would be fixed and some appearances issues with the proto skins

night zephyr
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Dawg catch some Z's god damn

solid otter
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No im

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Im up writing fanfic i cannot

steel mantle
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also I love how lyon still is not talking to me even after dating marie, like he just never had the initial message with me

solid otter
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I also forgot to take my meds and im halfway through trying to not die

uncut solar
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I believe in you

primal gyro
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note that i am literally just "best friends" with him, and the kim chat i had with him was the "it is time" kim chat and the dialogue looked pretty normal
but when i opened the logs again, the kim chat history is as if i was dating roathe

solid otter
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Pounding sand.

night zephyr
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Lyon also is texting me saying something has gone wrong too lol I didn't screw it up with anyone (the family stuff)

night zephyr
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Well it is time to wait again I guess

solid otter
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DE WHAT THE SHIT.

night zephyr
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They're doing their best

solid otter
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HOW DO YOU FUMBLE THIS BAD

flat pilot
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oh whait

fallow sonnet
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Wait till reset, send a bug report. The notes mentioned behind the scenes fixes for people still stuck.

solid otter
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Im debating drawing Roathe getting his ass beat for doing this

flat pilot
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im dating roathe too apparently HAHAAH

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yknow what? hell yea

solid otter
worn fjord
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I’m not going to touch those two chats that seemed bugged then (Lyon and Roathe)

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Mannn do I have to wait for another hotfix

flat pilot
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yeah theyre weird rn

solid otter
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What the shit.

flat pilot
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welp too late for me!

fallow sonnet
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The gemini romance lines seem to be working for roathe at least IvaraHeart

solid otter
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Im tired boss

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Im so tired.

solid otter
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What the balls.

worn fjord
balmy creek
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oh hey i'm ALSO having the issue of Roathe talking like i've romanced him

jagged sable
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I think i'm good. Still dating Marie, not dating Roathe or Lyon.
Just gotta wait til the reset to be 100% sure for Loid's reunion.

pure merlin
solid otter
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Im so close to crying

worn fjord
solid otter
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I was so close

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Yet so damn far

flat pilot
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i was dating lyon, im getting lines for roathe like i was dating him but it still says best friend on profile

primal gyro
flat pilot
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ill go visit him on cathredale and see what happens

pure merlin
night zephyr
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I'll wait because Lyon was saying he'll fix things to get the others to comply, when they both already agreed to help with no issues lol

solid otter
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Shout out to playstation for being able to record past events

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Roathe doesnt have it noted, interestingly

flat pilot
balmy creek
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it's new

flat pilot
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oh

solid otter
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Its a new one iirc

worn fjord
flat pilot
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makes sense yea

solid otter
flat pilot
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what doesnt make sense is that chat happening tho

pure merlin
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Could honestly just be another profile note issue with Roathe and you're not actually dating him

worn fjord
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Wait but apart from the bugs did you get the cutscene?

solid otter
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No!

flat magnet
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How long does it take to romance Marie? been on a couple months break and trying to catch up on the content

balmy creek
solid otter
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Not even the loid chat

worn fjord
solid otter
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You get a chat w Loid telling you it's time

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That he needs to go do it

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And this bastard REFUSES

worn fjord
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Or maybe you gotta wait till daily reset

solid otter
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Im gonna draw Roathe getting his ass beat by Loid

flat pilot
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oh god pls do and post it here

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ping me even

fallow sonnet
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Send bug reports, yall. They probably set some flags wrong in fixing the other KIM bugs.

solid otter
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He's called the sleeper bcs that mf got a sleeper build

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He can doublejump

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I hope everyone is aware of that

jagged sable
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Wait, did loid tell you it's time or did roathe
Both have a "it's time" chat.

pure merlin
solid otter
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Loid can double jump

worn fjord
solid otter
balmy creek
flat pilot
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yep

solid otter
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What the shit

balmy creek
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. okay so leaving to go to the sanctum and aborting the conversation with roathe still got Loid messaging me. awesome

flat pilot
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roathe looking normal on cathredale, not getting any romance voicelines

solid otter
pure merlin
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Yeah so you're not actually dating Roathe, it's just a chat issue

solid otter
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Youd have the entrati thing for that convo iirc

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You get it before best friends

nocturne garnet
flat pilot
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oh

balmy creek
worn fjord
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I THINK I KNOW HOW TO WORK AROUND THE BUG

flat pilot
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HOW

nocturne garnet
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I was best friends before

solid otter
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Im so pissed

nocturne garnet
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and now im neutral

solid otter
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Rage.

Enraged

nocturne garnet
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this is a DE moment

night zephyr
flat pilot
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guys got a new chat

pure merlin
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Means you succeeded

solid otter
fallow sonnet
solid otter
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LOID

flat pilot
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YEP

worn fjord
solid otter
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LOID

flat pilot
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just went to cathredale and came back and boom new chat

night zephyr
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alright chil out

solid otter
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YES ITS WORKING

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SORRY YOU HAVE NO ICEA

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NO IDEA AT ALL

uncut solar
solid otter
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Oof that camera work is bad

primal gyro
night zephyr
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Cause that's what's for me even tho they both agreed

hallow wharf
flat pilot
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idk why

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just got a marie one too now

pure merlin
solid otter
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AHHSYSYYAAG

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MY LOVE

primal gyro
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Additionally, i got a chat from lyon too but its if i wasnt able to convince marie about entrati being a crazed man (which is wrong cuz i was able to convince marie)

solid otter
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EXPLODING

worn fjord
primal gyro
solid otter
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Just leave the orbiter, it fixed it for me

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For some reason

pure merlin
worn fjord
night zephyr
pure merlin
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Seems to fix it for people

solid otter
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AND YOY CAN REPLAY THE CUTSCENE

night zephyr
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Oh ok so orbiter

solid otter
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Poggers

night zephyr
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Well on I go

solid otter
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So surgoi or whatever my mate says

worn fjord
nocturne garnet
fallow sonnet
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If you don't get the Loid chat and you think you should be, report it, I didn't get that until days after the previous hotfix + reporting it, p sure they tweaked extra stuff to get it to pop for some folks.

nocturne garnet
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I did 21 descendia runs

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why are you like this roathe

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first you go to neutral from besties, now you're close??

flat pilot
night zephyr
solid otter
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"Every light casts a shadow" YOU'RE SO RIGHT GRANDMAMA

fallow sonnet
primal gyro
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Man i was just trying to learn how to play devil trigger on the shawzin and this hotfix jumpscares me 😭

pure merlin
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It's not baaad, it's just a small little jumpscare but won't affect anything it seems

solid otter
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Ph wtf otak

primal gyro
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IT WORKED AHCUSUDUUXS

primal gyro
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THANK YOU

solid otter
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Ik this isnt a new line but otak has a random line saying about how hes damaged and that deimos damaged him

primal gyro
solid otter
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And that guts me every time

fallow sonnet
hallow wharf
solid otter
# primal gyro

"So strange to call her by that name now" MY MAN RAISED HER ITS SO REAL

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AHHH

nocturne garnet
hallow wharf
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Oh yay

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I went to the sanctum, left and got Loid's "i relent" convo

nocturne garnet
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for me hes just close now and saying I need to do more descendia

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even tho I did 21

primal gyro
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Do i have to go to the sanctum now after my chat with loid

solid otter
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Yea

hallow wharf
night zephyr
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@worn fjord ok when I left the orbiter it didn't immediately fix but after logging out and logging back in the conversations have changed 👍

solid otter
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"No, I have served, and I shall serve. Out of love" IM ACTUALLY GOUNG TO EXPLODE????

hallow wharf
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WOAH WOAH

primal gyro
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Ok the cutscene played but is there more to this

solid otter
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Loid.

hallow wharf
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HANG ON LEMME GRAB THIS SCREENSHOT

solid otter
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Loid the things you do to my heart.

primal gyro
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Do i have to go up to the necralisk as well

solid otter
flat pilot
solid otter
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Also Roathe is there now

balmy creek
flat pilot
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tell em kaelli

solid otter
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Get em

balmy creek
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fantastic way to end off talking to the family about this lmao

solid otter
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Don't hurt em now

worn fjord
solid otter
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I think its interesting.

Everyone is so focused on Albrecht, but mother is only focused on Loid

hallow wharf
# hallow wharf Broo

I did Lyon's convo and then Marie's one about Otak, and now Roathe is back to Anathema 😭😭😭

balmy creek
# balmy creek

though also if there was ever a time to let a character drop the f bomb: this wouldve been a PERFECT time.

solid otter
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DE. My poor heart can't deal with this

solid otter
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If I wind up dead, know that DE caused it

hallow wharf
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Truth

worn fjord
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Wait so I should be getting a cutscene in the inbox or?

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I got Loid’s message

solid otter
worn fjord
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Ohhhhh

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Okay will do

solid otter
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Well, sanctum, but I think both works

hallow wharf
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Im in Necralisk rn and nothing

solid otter
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And you can replay the cutscene

hallow wharf
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So it's sanctum I believe

solid otter
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Did you get the loid convo? Won't trigger w out it

hallow wharf
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The "i relent" one?

solid otter
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Mhm.

hallow wharf
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Yep

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Went to the sanctum too and nothing's happening

flat pilot
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and you got the loid convo too?

solid otter
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Rip lmao 😭

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My shalya...

hardy fossil
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I am stuck in kim chat again lyon is typing for over 20 min now

hallow wharf
primal gyro
worn fjord
solid otter
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The shit mother says feels like he should be up there

flat pilot
solid otter
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Told you though

flat pilot
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and roathe is chilling up here too

solid otter
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Its a bit of a nothing burger

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But good lord did i need it

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You have no idea

undone lodge
hallow wharf
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Does family need to be r5? I went to all of them and they didnt have extra options

solid otter
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Mother used to rely on loid for so much..

hallow wharf
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😭

solid otter
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Did you do this all w out r5 family 😭

hallow wharf
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YES

solid otter
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Oh my god

hallow wharf
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I don't wanna do that grind

solid otter
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Go do that 😭 you cant w out it

flat pilot
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oh damn

hearty pendant
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-# they made it easier this update too

solid otter
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They made it better too

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Only 10 grandma tokens for the seriglass shard

undone lodge
solid otter
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Mother would kill loid if she wasn't r5

hallow wharf
solid otter
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To tell her that Albrecht "abandoned" her willingly would make her spiral

solid otter
uncut solar
solid otter
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I want to ask Albrecht so many questions

primal gyro
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My curiosity has finally been satiated...

solid otter
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And Loid. But those questions are different and he would hit me for asking them

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"When did you and Albrecht first kiss-" gets mucking smited by the ekhein

hallow wharf
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Oh wait I'm rank 4 I forgot

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Won't be too bad

primal gyro
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I wonder how operator is supposed to react to the whole thing with the family meeting human loid cuz technically it was drifter who's responsible for getting the triad's help to convince loid to go upstairs

uncut solar
solid otter
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It still baffles me that people don't realise Loid and Albrecht are lovers

primal gyro
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But the family say "Ayatan" so its supposed to be operator they're talking to me thinks

solid otter
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Ayatan refers to us and the drifter bcs we are the "same" person

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Idk i dont like it

fiery oyster
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ok so now what?

uncut solar
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Loid has Zylok and Ekhein, but what's his primary?

primal gyro
valid folio
fiery oyster
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went neutral with the thing at the bottom saying one way forward, had the talk with Lyon, went back to Close and that but had that convo wwith POM2

fiery oyster
solid otter
jagged summit
hardy fossil
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Still wont progress beyond this point 30 min and nothing

fiery oyster
jagged summit
solid otter
solid otter
flat pilot
fiery oyster
hearty pendant
hardy fossil
jagged summit
fiery oyster
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oop I got the cutscene

solid otter
jagged summit
flat pilot
fiery oyster
hardy fossil
solid otter
flat pilot
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i love lettie, my latina representation and jojo ref (even though shes not) CLEMLove

undone lodge
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Jojo ref?

undone lodge
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Ah, the pompadour or whatever

flat pilot
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yepp

jagged summit
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JOJO RAHHHHHHHHHH

solid otter
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Albrecht teels like a jojos reference form what ive seen too

flat pilot
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RRRRRRRRRAR

flat pilot
solid otter
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Im not a fan, so i couldn't tell you

uncut solar
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No he's not a jojo reference

solid otter
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I said feels

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Not is 😭

uncut solar
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Best I can muster is this deadbeat dad

flat pilot
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idk man i see jojo reference in literally anything atp im kinda obsessed

solid otter
hearty pendant
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got the cutscene
||if there's anyone that deserves to call out "typical orokin bullshit," its definitely kaelli, yeah|| v light dialogue spoilers but spoilers nonetheless
incredible. love it

solid otter
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I think, personally, that its silly that she thinks thats what the quote means, but fair enough

fiery oyster
undone lodge
solid otter
solid otter
pure merlin
solid otter
#

I hate him so badly.

solid otter
#

Im gonna punch Albrecht

fiery oyster
solid otter
#

I want to punch him for that stupid joke

#

Dad jokes and all but SHIT

#

I will put his ass through the wall like I did that chair

fiery oyster
#

lmao

solid otter
#

Ive done it before ill do it again

#

Nothing worse than a unmedicated thomas

fiery oyster
solid otter
fiery oyster
#

I swear, the Origin System would be wildly different without the Tenno

solid otter
#

YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND

#

LOID RAISED EULERIA WHEN ALBRECHT STRUGGLED TO

#

HE WAS HER OTHER PARENTAL FIGURE

primal gyro
#

Now im curious if operator will ever meet or work with the triad in future updates considering roathe's inbox messages during blood of perita that were directly mailed for our operator

soft coral
#

Loid is just,,,
jweviewvuoweuovpi
he's wonderful,,,,

solid otter
#

You dont understand noone does

fiery oyster
civic ore
solid otter
#

Ew.

solid otter
#

No.

civic ore
#

but we know he loves Albrecht more

solid otter
#

I feel like that would be a horrific breach of... everything

fiery oyster
#

wait, isn Albrecht married to Grandmother?

solid otter
#

No???

#

Thats Father's mother

hearty pendant
#

where's vinny and that chart-

soft coral
#

He's still very much into Albrecht I believe, and also no Loid is like, father figure X3c

civic ore
#

hmmm yeah I see it

fiery oyster
hearty pendant
primal gyro
civic ore
fiery oyster
solid otter
flat pilot
solid otter
#

Albrecht was also in an arranged marriage!

#

One he did not like!

civic ore
flat pilot
#

no...

primal gyro
#

Plus wasnt it roathe's and nitokh's whole thing to overturn the orokin empire even if it was for different reasons

hearty pendant
soft coral
civic ore
#

basically Grandmothers name was Dagath and long story short, she gave her name to the warframe

solid otter
#

Albrecht did a lot for his daughter. He loved his daughter.

He never lit candles for her mother.

flat pilot
#

ah nice, ty :3

solid otter
#

Never mentions her compared to loid

#

Once and thats it

undone lodge
hearty pendant
civic ore
#

family drama, gotta love it

solid otter
#

Everyone knew about Loid and Albrecht imo

#

Not shocking

primal gyro
#

Plus ive said this before, roathe gives off the energy of this meme for me ExcaliburLUL

solid otter
#

They seemed to be rather open about it

primal gyro
#

And GOD am i glad im kinda right

soft coral
solid otter
#

Xata nuke

civic ore
primal gyro
#

Roathe hates ballas, operator also hates ballas - its good common ground

undone lodge
civic ore
undone lodge
pliant sandal
#

I had a cyst on my warframe if anybody knows what that means (I had helminth remove it)

solid otter
civic ore
undone lodge
civic ore
#

thought it was space aids but same thing

solid otter
#

Eh. Aids has worse connotations

#

Herpes is more accurate

civic ore
#

with tendrils?

solid otter
#

Doesnt do anything really, kinda just bothers you

civic ore
#

.< its like a damn mutated pimple you gotta pop eventually

solid otter
#

Herpes bcs its so easy to transmit

soft coral
#

The pimple is mainly just a cosmetic surface thing, only thing you get out of it function wise is a Helminth Charger

solid otter
#

Theres another

#

A yellow one

soft coral
solid otter
#

A yellow cyst....

worn fjord
#

Free from anymore KIM bugs finally

pliant sandal
#

helminth lowkey a real one popping it for me

solid otter
#

Techrot coda....

soft coral
pliant sandal
#

I had a red one

solid otter
#

Helminth is cool

#

Till it eats your kavat

civic ore
#

aka Lizzie

solid otter
#

Or your boot from fishing/j

soft coral
hearty pendant
worn fjord
# solid otter Real

Like Roathe’s chat history changed a bit but I’m freeeeee— redeemed and reunited

civic ore
#

reminds me, probably should check my frames for cysts

solid otter
#

I also think my kalymos got vampired

#

So. That's fun

uncut solar
#

Vampirelymos

worn fjord
pliant sandal
#

helminth warframe equilivent to tenno NHS

heady dew
#

Yay it seems like DE fixed being softlocked out of reuniting the family, hope I get that convo from Roathe/Lyon tonight

solid otter
#

Yeah

undone lodge
solid otter
civic ore
#

yeah peeps were talking all about the KIM bugs it was nuts

pure merlin
#

The end of an era

undone lodge
solid otter
solid otter
#

Like. Yeah I have but yk

civic ore
#

i reset cause I think I didnt do it right so shrugs

heady dew
undone lodge
civic ore
heady dew
#

It was very clearly a bug and hopefully that’ll be fixed tonight after reset

solid otter
#

Yeah reset is like

worn fjord
# undone lodge Yeah

I got that bug too a while back but I did it anyways since she acknowledged it in another chat

solid otter
#

In 3 hours

civic ore
#

now i gotta romance marie again and probably talk to Aoi too again lol

worn fjord
hearty pendant
# solid otter You should've gotten it already

it gave me roathe's "It is time." and a second Lyon agreement for some reason. ignored Lyon in case it would mess up something, reloaded my orbiter after Roathe's convo, and got the Loid one
was odd but it worked, so nbd

undone lodge
worn fjord
worn fjord
pure merlin
#

Yeah that Roathe dialogue thing is just a small issue, that's not how my convo went and I'm still dating Roathe, I don't think it's really going to affect anyone, it didn't make me breakup with Roathe, just this particular chat not giving the options properly/showing the options you chose properly

solid otter
#

Yeah it does that

#

It doesnt matter

worn fjord
#

If it does then it’s good and you can do that bugged convo (R5, C4)

#

The only thing that’s bugged about that convo is the boolean not triggering

#

At least that’s how it worked for me

solid otter
#

Mhm

#

Should work

worn fjord
solid otter
#

Visual bugs my beloathed.

hardy fossil
#

Im still stuck here with lyon not continues typing nothing happens at all 😡

worn fjord
hardy fossil
#

I am loved by marie and best friend with lyon and roathe is anathema

worn fjord
#

Ohh then…

#

Wait what’s your last chat with Roathe

#

And are the profile notes correct or incorrect?

hardy fossil
worn fjord
# hardy fossil

Was this how the chat originally played out or did a bug rewrite it?

hardy fossil
#

No it was how it was

worn fjord
hearty pendant
#

if i had to guess, that's one of the failstates that lyon can't bail you out of
but i'm checking to be sure atm

hardy fossil
worn fjord
hardy fossil
hearty pendant
#

huh. looks like this is just RoatheFail? so lyon should be able to get you out of that

hardy fossil
worn fjord
#

But you’re best friends with Lyon already and that convo to help you should’ve happened at Close

hearty pendant
# hardy fossil

this chat should've triggered a lyon one, then that should've triggered one for marie

hearty pendant
hardy fossil
#

I just got it after the update a couple of hour ago?

hearty pendant
# hardy fossil

this chat might just be broken for the moment
prolly wait for daily reset to see what happens then

hardy fossil
#

Ok thanks guys for taking the time 🙏💪

worn fjord
hearty pendant
hardy fossil
worn fjord
#

Ohh okay that one should get Roathe out of Anathema

hardy fossil
worn fjord
#

It’s a new convo that was added after the hotfix so

hardy fossil
#

Yeah I hope it fixes this, been having trouble with this kim chats. But thank you for trying to help me 🙏

jagged summit
#

Oh AWESOME apparently the hotfix fd up my relationship with Roathe even further

#

Dude…. FacePalmLotus

dark remnant
#

Wait until after 7pm eastern and the next conversation script runs.

#

Mayb ethen it'll get fixed.

jagged summit
dark remnant
#

Wait for the regular conversation update script to run at 7 pm eastern/midnight UTC. Then see if it gets fixed.

jagged summit
dark remnant
#

Yes, me too.

#

I'm waiting until 7 pm to see if it gets fixed.

jagged summit
dark remnant
#

The Anathema flag seems to be improperly persistent. It keeps popping back up after being cleared.

jagged summit
#

If it daily resets at midnight at it’s still the same I fear I might reset everything 😭

dark remnant
#

They did mention there are an exceptionally large number of 'edge cases' in attempting to do the bug fix.

jagged summit
#

Like are we supposed to go through Anathema again and then will it bring us back to the correct ranks (Best Friends/Loved)? or are we supposed to wait until midnight cause it’s an actual added bug.. idk what to do in all this 😭😭

limpid smelt
jagged summit
dark remnant
#

Thus, wait until 7 pm eastern/midnight UTC when the regular KIM conversation update scripts run and those script fixes are applied.

jagged summit
jagged summit
dark remnant
#

And by 'edge cases', the simple fact is they have so many flags set during these KIM conversations, and they get set inconsistently sometimes, that some flags 'stick' and are persistent, or some conversations lead to unintended combinations of flags.

scarlet ginkgo
#

I played the cutscene of ||loid going up the stairs, roathe stopping him from backing out and then cut.|| I should be seeing ||some sort of dialogue with the family? roathe is in the upper necralisk now, sure, but none of the family really comment on loid or roathe at all||

pure merlin
hearty pendant
scarlet ginkgo
jagged summit
hearty pendant
pure merlin
worn fjord
jagged summit
pure merlin
scarlet ginkgo
pure merlin
scarlet ginkgo
#

walk up to

pure merlin
#

Trying by teleporting

jagged summit
pure merlin
scarlet ginkgo
#

ok, restarted the game

#

seems to be wrokign now

pure merlin
#

Nice

scarlet ginkgo
#

final fun fact: ||the operator cannot interact with Roathe in the necralisk, he just gives you the "close dialogue" chatter. But if you select the drifter you can talk like noral||

balmy storm
#

When you could sneak into xx99 with Operator it did the same thing
Ofc if you were as your frame they’d still talk to you funnily enougj

scarlet ginkgo
#

like, damn bro, don't gotta be so mad about it, just a random tenno

pure merlin
#

Roathe hates kids confirmed ?

scarlet ginkgo
#

||ye, even with operator selected, i can talk to him if I'm in the warframe||

sharp night
#

ok so this never happened, ive never confessed to Roathe, and i had two messages, from roathe and lyon, i took lyons first where he asked me if i needed help with roathe for loid's reunion, then after that the roathe message disappeared, couldnt even see what was it

scarlet ginkgo
#

slightly mad ||marie and lyon don't come up to hang out too||

pure merlin
worn fjord
pure merlin
hearty pendant
pure merlin
#

Yeaaah, I reported that as a bug in the forum

#

I'm assuming it's not supposed to do that

sharp night
worn fjord
worn fjord
#

The message should pop up then

worn fjord
#

Awesome!!!

worn fjord
#

Then talk to the family and Loid for extra dialogue

sharp night
worn fjord
floral condor
#

So, did the man from the wall enter our reality?

balmy storm
sharp night
balmy storm
#

Notably the fragmented are not him but dealbreakers he’s twisted, their goal is to tether strands of khra so Wally can fully enter essentially iirc
Hence why we kill them, to sever or stop them from even tethering a strand

balmy storm
floral condor
#

And I have a question, canonically there are more Teeno characters besides ours, right?

sharp night
floral condor
#

Because outside of the multiplayer mode, in the story we are always alone.

hearty pendant
#

you're the main character, but there are other tenno, yea

real niche
#

Player is the chosen one, everyone else is just doing other things

#

Like most online games with a main story

floral condor
#

Any idea approximately how much there is? I don't think there are many.

balmy storm
#

There’s a lot

#

But not as many as the actual player count

cerulean kiln
#

At least 2

hearty pendant
floral condor
#

4 per mision

balmy storm
#

All Tenno are from the Zariman, a colony ship, it’s unknown how large the crew was let alone how many children were aboard

opaque dove
hearty pendant
balmy storm
sharp night
#

also newer lore from the old peace where Tenno were killed as comandeered frames, so a few less?

opaque dove
balmy storm
#

It’d be really nice if we could go to the Zariman island in Duviri
We still wouldn’t know exacts but maybe we could estimate a bit more if we could stand beside the actual thing

sharp night
cerulean kiln
#

We aren’t told what happened to the Tenno controlling them

hearty pendant
#

their fate is very vague
"what happened to them can happen to you, too" isn't definitive

balmy storm
#

The only tenno that are confirmed dead are the ones from the interactive who were sealed within their frames via the anomalous radiation that toootally won’t show up again

sharp night
#

in the old peace arg and the quest

balmy storm
#

Like they literally tell us the radiation is rare

hearty pendant
#

i don't think ascaris prime utilizes it
it could, ig, but why would they destroy the source of the radiation if they'd use it later

steep totem
balmy storm
#

I believe it is implied that some of the commandeered frames are still piloted by Tenno but forced to act for the Anarchs
I may be wrong though idr all the lines

balmy storm
sharp night
#

then why is such a painful memory for the tenno that they have to kill the Warframes? if they are just being controlled but nothing more, well they only lost their warframes, it doesnt make sense

opaque dove
#

Also why were the prime vanguard taller than us

balmy storm
#

Cause the tenno may still be in there, fighting eachother is still traumatic and the tenno know the truth about the Warframes cause
Transference

steep totem
hearty pendant
balmy storm
#

The frames can still die

sharp night
#

yeah fair point

steep totem
sharp night
#

as how the quest and missions were putting it, i thought the commandeered frames were tenno trapped then killed alongside the frame

hearty pendant
#

also do any of the commandeered primes actually die or do they just run off, i don't pay attention to them in-mission

balmy storm
#

Also the tenno do just feel the pain through the frame so ):

balmy storm
#

I know we don’t kill Roathe for example but idk for the vanguard

hearty pendant
#

like stalker and kullervo kneel and disappear, roathe teleports to above the throne, but idk what the vanguard do

balmy storm
#

Wait does fighting the Vanguard count as pvp
Why aren’t we earning conclave standing from this HappyHyekka

sharp night
#

Or idk, but im sure they drop to the ground dead

balmy storm
#

You just gave your classmate a concussion doing that

rancid pilot
hearty pendant
balmy storm
#

Also we do know that the frame can die and the Tenno themselves can be fine
Except for the times they aren’t which typically involved explosions iirc

rancid pilot
hearty pendant
#

where the hell would galastra's lines about the vanguard be on the wiki ughh

balmy storm
#

Why does exploding the frame kill a tenno but not beheading the frame
Do we just get really bad neckpain with one and the other is pain so immense we’re braindead?

worn fjord
#

Grey, I can confirm the Gemini lines are not working for me either. Although Lyon’s capturas and Cathedral lines are working

hearty pendant
balmy storm
#

Roathe messed something up with the Helminth smh

#

That’s why they’re so buggy
Totally

worn fjord
hearty pendant
#

huh, very well then

worn fjord
#

Hope it works for you too after that

hearty pendant
#

hm. odd thing about the vanguard. galastra's lines are unclear, but lotus's lean more towards their operators dying
Lotus: "The Anarchs were cruel, turning loyal friends into maddened enemies. Lay their tormented ghosts to rest."
Lotus: "Well done, Tenno. Remember the fallen. Gather strength for the battles to come."

rancid pilot
#

Ok so the commandeered warframes are piloted by tenno

balmy storm
#

I’m really questioning tenno mortality with this update

#

I’m still not a fan of our revive ability being from Adis

hearty pendant
rancid pilot
#

Ok i found the line that implies at least 1 commandeered was piloted by Galastra herself
Adis: "Control frames, but no Tenno? Galastra burn herself up for sure."

balmy storm
#

Ascaris go brr

rancid pilot
#

Ascaris really does whatever it needs to

balmy storm
#

I mean

#

We know what it does lol

#

We literally got hit with one day 1

valid folio
#

They fixed the gemini animations, the newer lines and fixed my loidfamilyreunite, roathe is still anathema but I can't do much about that atp, EVERYTHING (Mostly) I COULD WISH FOR

valid folio
#

Yeah I suppose

balmy storm
#

45 mins

valid folio
#

I'm going to sleep before then, but I'll check tomorrow

balmy storm
#

I’m gonna wait til we know all the bugs are squashed before I even attempt a full reset lmao

balmy storm
worn fjord
valid folio
#

I'm not resetting even if it means Roathe won't talk to me, takes too long

balmy storm
#

With how often I play it’s worth it

valid folio
balmy storm
hearty pendant
balmy storm
#

I really want them to add the KIM chats to the companion app

balmy storm
floral condor
#

they are our teeno parents?

valid folio
uncut solar
floral condor
#

What I find strange is the color; now both of them appear red. Before, only the woman had red hair like my character. Is this a bug?

uncut solar
uncut solar
#

they are red for an amazing reason

rancid pilot
# balmy storm We know what it does lol

I mean we knew it enables a degree of control over a warframe and possibly to the operator? But Galastra is using the ascaris prime to directly take control/interface with a warframe and killing herself to do so, make me wonder if Vor was also bruning himself up to do so or it's a difference between the prime and regular

floral condor
#

So teens can't grow old? Will they be teenagers forever?

hearty pendant
#

the tenno were in cryo for a while

balmy storm
hearty pendant
#

mhm

balmy storm
#

Potentially a good bit more than that

#

We don’t know when we went to sleep

#

Just after the Old Peace

balmy storm
hearty pendant
#

rell, our biggest example of someone not in cryo, bound himself to harrow permanently to avoid dying of old age

balmy storm
#

*bound his mind to Harrow through transference

#

His physical body was dust by the time we help him

hearty pendant
#

right, yes

rancid pilot
#

Do we know if Warframes came before the orokin found the children on board the Zariman?

forest kiln
rancid pilot
#

Ok, so the general timeline is
Sentients attack
Everything gets thrown at them and doesn't work
They make warframes to fight the sentient
Find the children on the Zariman, turns out they make great warframe pilots
Old Peace
something like this

balmy storm
#

The timeline roughly is
Sentients are sent to Tau the long way
Takes too long
Zariman is made out of impatience
Zariman incident
Rail is online
Old War starts
Frames and Necramechs are made to fight against the Sentients
Frames work really well for a while
Go feral, get shelved
Eventually the Zariman returns
Transference is discovered (Rhino Prime Codex iirc)
Tenno are used to control the Frames

rancid pilot
#

Ok, so i was wondering, before the frames proved too unstable to fight, was the ascaris the method they used to pilot them?

balmy storm
#

Probably not since the Gen 1 frames had sapience

#

The problem was they went feral and were unusable

rancid pilot
#

Oh yeah, that's right

balmy storm
#

It may be the Ascaris only really works if someone is using transference on the frame actually

#

Maybe thats what Galastra was doing?

#

Like
At least for one, it sounded like she was hurting herself so

#

Anyone can use transference via somatics, especially so with a bolt (ig, we dont know enough about them beyond Umbra’s specific special one)

hearty pendant
#

(because i couldn't remember it,) ascaris prime's description:
"Technology developed by Executor Ballas to allow remote piloting of a hijacked Warframe for short periods, forcing them to act against even their deepest instincts."

balmy storm
rancid pilot
#

I hope we get clarification, preferably through something in game

pearl geyser
#

I came back after a short hiatus and roathe is marked as ‘anathema’ on KIM chat. Is that normal or does his approval drop if you don’t do descendia enough?

pearl geyser
#

No, just like… 7 I think. Is doing it 21 times how to get past it?

balmy storm
#

You’ll need to fight him 21 times at least

pearl geyser
#

I see.

balmy storm
#

I believe it persists through resets too fyi

worn fjord
pearl geyser
#

So this is normal progression and not something I missed?

worn fjord
worn fjord
balmy storm
balmy storm
worn fjord
#

But he needs to face it yea

pearl geyser
#

Damn, I was friendly with him too

balmy storm
#

I was literally agreeing with him, misclicked (on an answer that wasn’t that bad) and he blocked me for it :p

worn fjord
pearl geyser
#

Little orokin baby

hearty pendant
balmy storm
worn fjord
#

The 21 defeats

#

Let me double check

balmy storm
#

It might be since that exists for Wisp and Harrow too

hearty pendant
#

Exorcist for 21 defeats, The Devil's Confessor for 21 VMs

worn fjord
#

Okay “The Devils confessor” for 21 VMs

balmy storm
#

I’ll have to check if I have exorcist

#

Cause I did get all 21 VMs

worn fjord
worn fjord
hearty pendant
#

double trouble is for 21 floors as uriel

opaque dove
balmy storm
worn fjord
balmy storm
#

Hm
I do not have that but clearly have done it 21 times

#

Maybe you have to do full descendia for it to count?

worn fjord
#

a bug then

worn fjord
worn fjord
#

I think so

jagged summit
balmy storm
#

I’ll get it eventually
Or I won’t
I prefer scholar of secrets and no god above knowledge anyway lol

jagged summit
lucid peak
worn fjord
jagged summit
lucid peak
teal steppe
#

Oh... okay... So, Lyon presented me with a conversation, I was like "Uh, yes, help me I guess?" And now, Marie is in the "Agreed to help me unite Loid with the Entrai family" state, Roathe isn't anymore. Lyon is still comitted to helping.

worn fjord
lucid peak
#

i have

worn fjord
#

Hmm

worn fjord
lucid peak
#

i just don’t know what else to do. waiting is not helping, and today’s hotfix has made things more confusing

jagged summit
worn fjord
worn fjord
balmy storm
#

MAN LYON REALLY IS THE BEST ONE WHAT

#

am I a bad person if I date him before resetting just to get that-

lucid peak
jagged summit
lucid peak
#

for real

#

well, 20 more fights, here i come

worn fjord
balmy storm
teal steppe
# worn fjord All three were on board before this happened?

Nope, Marie was in a softlock condition, Roathe and Lyon was commited. I booted the game up after they patched it, both Lyon and Raothe wanted to talk. I talked with Lyon first, he said "Looks like Roathe's dragging his feet. want me to help with that", I went "Sure?", then Roathe's conversation disappeared. I checked Marie's status, said she's committed now. Lyon was still comitted. Roathe wasn't anymore.

balmy storm
#

Lyon is my fav of the triad tho

worn fjord
balmy storm
#

At no point was he frustrating or insufferable

jagged summit
#

Actually losing it at how “please don’t get me started” is LITERALLY me rn because of what’s been happening with me and the damn bug with Roathe’s romance and him ghosting me for 7 days now 😭😭😭😭

lucid peak
#

Lyon, thanks for being normal, babes

jagged summit
balmy storm
#

Actually the only time he was insufferable was earlier cause the new chat they added if you failed Marie iirc?

lucid peak
balmy storm
#

I was honest to him and was just rude but whatev its about his soul sister :p

lucid peak
#

i’m so SICK of them, i am gonna fight them

teal steppe
fiery oyster
#

so can someone help me?

fiery oyster
#

does this mean I HAVE to reset? I've already done the 21 runs

teal steppe
jagged summit
#

I think the time I was sick of any of them was sadly Marie when you have said argument with her, I reached a point in that where I legit couldn’t care if I got blocked by her after the convo

lucid peak
balmy storm
fiery oyster
#

its reset and no convos so idk

jagged summit
lucid peak
worn fjord
teal steppe
#

I think Lyon force-reset the flags and now all three are on board.

fiery oyster
#

yeah but Roathe is still at close with the Descendia

#

I might have to run it rq

fiery oyster
lucid peak
#

i hate my stupid blue boyfriend

worn fjord
fiery oyster
#

I blame the Orokin

lucid peak
#

gonna do 20 runs, see what happens

balmy storm
#

This feels out of character for him by this point (we’re besties in every way)

worn fjord
jagged summit
# fiery oyster so can someone help me?

Listen we’re in the trenches rn, I assume you also have a Anathema block, I recommend you do Descendia 21 times again to unblock it and hopefully after that we get the actually right rank and missing convos whether you want to romance him or not, if in next midnight’s reset nothing changes that’s when I recommend to just reset the damn Devil Triad 😭 take that with a grain of salt cause I’m in the same position and am doing what I assume is the correct path

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