spoiler-chat

[exotic nebula]

no i just think he's neat

[balmy storm]

For the vms yes

[exotic nebula]

yes and it is bugged seemingly so enjoy putting roathe in the blender for who knows how many times

[floral badge]

Ive already done it like 30x once before he blocked me he can go f himself 🥱

[balmy storm]

Tbh once things are fixed the best thing to do will likely be to just reset the chats

You’ll have all the vms already done so you won’t have to worry about them

[zenith jacinth]

Patience is a virtue no wf player posesses

[balmy storm]

Which is weird cause all we do is wait
??? To get the parts
12 hours per part
72 for the full frame

[exotic nebula]

fr

[zenith jacinth]

Yea

[balmy storm]

The game teaches us patience lol

[zenith jacinth]

It's fascinating

[balmy storm]

It is

The wf player effect

[zenith jacinth]

I repeat my statement that I want to see the average wf player play ds2 blind

[balmy storm]

Oh that and calling everything eternalism when they don’t know what that even is or how it works

[balmy storm]

All i know about ds2 is that in some ways, like the devs, it’s the polar opposite of warframe

[zenith jacinth]

It's similar and different

[balmy storm]

Star Trek vs Star Wars

[zenith jacinth]

I specify ds2 because ds1 is actually pretty easy while ds3 is plain unfair in places, but the difficulty in ds2 is very dependent on player skill and knowledge

[balmy storm]

Oh you meant dark souls

[zenith jacinth]

...yes

[exotic nebula]

And elden ring is just here same w nightreign

[balmy storm]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-disintegration-meme-ai-meme-funny-gif-5585270952676380091

[fluid canyon]

So, Roathe talked to me again last night! He asked me if I wanted to send Loid upstairs. His status seems to be stuck in pre-Descendia mode, though

[zenith jacinth]

What else could I mean

[balmy storm]

Don’t worry about it

[zenith jacinth]

Elden ring is ds2 2

[zenith jacinth]

I worry about it

[balmy storm]

The “hardest” game I’ve played is maybe tboi

[zenith jacinth]

Since when is thomas a game

[balmy storm]

And that’s more luck based by a certain point

[exotic nebula]

I platinum trophied elden ring and nightreign so both ds2 2s I have done well in:]

[balmy storm]

Har har

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah roguelikes are a different form of difficult

[solid otter]

HEY I WASNT EVEN HERE

[pastel pasture]

man some people really suck at kim huh?

[solid otter]

DAMN

[zenith jacinth]

No no, nightreign is pve fortnite

[pastel pasture]

not even in a doesn't understand social ques way. in i "why did they get mad after I insulted them?" way

[zenith jacinth]

Yeahp

[solid otter]

If the diagnosed autisitc can do it, So the hell can they

[balmy storm]

Tbf the triad are bugged

[zenith jacinth]

A pun must be made, no matter if the subject is present or not

[pastel pasture]

no no no not that

[balmy storm]

Oooh ok

[fluid canyon]

The triad? Bugged? Nooooo. I didn't spend a week trying to get Roathe to talk to me or anything!

[zenith jacinth]

And the undiagnosed autisitc

[zenith jacinth]

What ds2 did you think I meant

[balmy storm]

Marie being bugged romantically is very funny since so many are just gonna go after her cause wisp lol

[balmy storm]

Shhhhh no it’s ok

[zenith jacinth]

I have to know

[solid otter]

And shes just written so you can fail if you're dumb about it

[pastel pasture]

one example. saw someone who thought Roathe's spiral was Roathe being whiny and the game telling them that they failed the kim chat

[solid otter]

Shout out to DE

[zenith jacinth]

A very subdued shoutout, the rest of the questionable writing overshadows it

[balmy storm]

I was literally nothing but kind and patient and then got nothing
Oh and that one argument that i was forced to do
Oh and being to insult her religion

[solid otter]

Im just glad folk think of me when I aint there lol

[balmy storm]

Maybe it’s cause she’s bugged but i do not like her as much i thought and hoped i would

[solid otter]

Cant lay around and do nothing, she needs to be pushed. Hard.

Both mentally and physically.

[zenith jacinth]

I always think of every person I either consider a friend or an annoyance

[solid otter]

Pushing her off a cliff

She'd be fine

[solid otter]

This is so real

[balmy storm]

I just wanted to be nice to the new people i just met ):

[solid otter]

I be talking about some folk to my therapist

Like as in ive called her at 2am crying in rage 😭

[balmy storm]

Lyon is friend
Roathe is a coinflip
Marie turned into an annoyance

[zenith jacinth]

Same not counting the oversized smurf reject

[balmy storm]

Yeah, I got actually frustrated more often cause he’s
Him.

It really feels like I’m talking to an Orokin!

[zenith jacinth]

I firmly hold on to my hatred of orokin

[balmy storm]

Aka terrible

[pastel pasture]

Roathe is a kitty cat

Looks mean but is a cinnamon bun

[solid otter]

Its funny that I had the whole i hate marie before she released, she dropped, ooh shes not bad

And then now im back to hating her, but more now.

Wanna punch her

[fluid canyon]

Roathe just takes forever to sulk! Spent a week sulking because I did Descendia

[zenith jacinth]

He's an orokin

[balmy storm]

He did warcrimes and killed at least one child.

[pastel pasture]

who hasn't

[solid otter]

Noooo hes pretty nooo

[balmy storm]

I think looks mean but is a cinnamon bun fits lyon more

[pastel pasture]

The Operator's killed a child depending on your definition of child

[solid otter]

Forever ridiculing the folk who think Roathe can be redeemed but Albrecht can't

[balmy storm]

Context matters

[zenith jacinth]

I really don't like some of her writing and still hate the concept of nun wisp

[cerulean kiln]

Operator has killed plenty of child clones that probably don’t even make it to 5 or 10

[pastel pasture]

also Scrap ain't you an Entrati glazer or am i thinking of someone else

[balmy storm]

My issue is def more so with her writing, I’m fine with her being wisp

[zenith jacinth]

That's thomas

I universally hate the orokin

[balmy storm]

That’s Thomas who still doesn’t fully glaze him, not as much as he used to at least

Bro knows he’s a wet rat

[solid otter]

Hey I hate him too

I just like drawing him a lot

[pastel pasture]

must be thinking of someone else. I remember someone in this server was a huge Entrati glazer. Like to the level of Marie

[cerulean kiln]

Doesn’t Thomas despise Entrati or am I going insane

[balmy storm]

You’re more of a loid glazer (which fair)

[solid otter]

I just get frustrated when people misunderstand any character

Especially ones im normal over

[zenith jacinth]

albrecht was too

[balmy storm]

Did we need Marie to spell out Entrati isn’t the worst but isn’t the best?
I don’t think so

[solid otter]

Im the loid enthusiast

That doesnt mean im blind to the fact he enabled Albrecht to do the shit he did to the cavia

[zenith jacinth]

Tbf he was reluctant

[pastel pasture]

TBF The Hex was pure "Entrati is bad and 100% evil" Marie is a nice balance to that

[solid otter]

Characters are complex holy shit!?!?!?!?!

[zenith jacinth]

But yknow, servant of an orokin can't say no

[pastel pasture]

and also yes. we did. some people aren't going to know that if you don't spell it out

reading comprehension is dead

[glass plover]

oh, so if he stop talking, I just need to finish 21 fights for him to talk again?

[solid otter]

That writing is the cause for most 99% of the hate around Albrecht imo

[mental ice]

Cool, now imagine Albrecht moaning in bed with Loid in that deep voice of his....

[solid otter]

Nah, only dax

[balmy storm]

Those same people think him being kind was manipulation lol

[solid otter]

Dax and grineer

[pastel pasture]

yes. to reach Roathe's conclusion you need 21 kills

[solid otter]

IM SORRY-

THAT WAS SO OUT OF POCKET.

[glass plover]

oh, no rush then I guess XD

[mental ice]

Worst image ever, right? XD

[balmy storm]

Albrecht 100% deserves the hate too 😭

[zenith jacinth]

You want me to ping the mods?

[solid otter]

I CANT COMMENT ON THAT

[mental ice]

Chill, it was in good humor 🙂

[zenith jacinth]

It was against rule 4

[solid otter]

I just think people overly hate him and always assume the worst.

Had a person try to say he assaulted his exwife once and that was. Exhausting.

[pastel pasture]

Now don't get me wrong. Entrati is terrible and the only thing that redeems him is that it's all for a good cause. I also think Entrati has convinced himself that he's a martyr. He fixes the problem then thinks he can redeem himself by saying "okay now you can hate me as much as you want"

[zenith jacinth]

21 kills and then hear all 21 voice messages

[balmy storm]

Okay yeah there def some overhate
I more meant from the protos lol

[solid otter]

Oh.

Yeah, nah I agree

[cerulean kiln]

What does Lyon think about Entrati?

[solid otter]

They hate him fairly, but the irls seem to overtly hate him because thats the (biased) information they were told

[pastel pasture]

someone in this server got really mad at me because they were convinced I was wrong about it being 21

I could not get them to understand X>=21 meant 21

[balmy storm]

He does not like him much iirc

[solid otter]

I think he was just always weary?

Doesnt trust him iirc

[zenith jacinth]

Random writing complaint, I hate how lettie (afaik) never apologizes for being rude, not good writing imo

[balmy storm]

He knows the truth now, or more so ig

[mental ice]

I think it's fair that Albrecht has his faults, makes him believable as a character

[solid otter]

Charactisation but at the cost of me occasionally wanting to call her several not nice words.

[balmy storm]

It’s mostly faults tbf

[pastel pasture]

eh i kinda get her

[zenith jacinth]

I don't know anyone aside from actual psychopaths who never apologize

[balmy storm]

He’s got more crimes than good aspects

[mental ice]

Can't disagre with that 🤣

[pastel pasture]

i share her distaste of being asked dumb questions

[solid otter]

He was a good father, the best he could've been

[balmy storm]

Like
Cat dad
Loves loid
Wants to stop Wally

That’s the end of the list

[solid otter]

Loid helped a lot, but honestly, being a single parent is bloody hard.

[mental ice]

To be fair I only tolerate Albrecht because he is a cat person 😅

[solid otter]

Especially with someone like Euleria. She gives BPD vibes in the worst ways possible.

You know its bad when she reminds me of my sister because of it

[balmy storm]

If Kalymos talks i will explode (I’m talking Entrati with me)

[cerulean kiln]

Game characters don’t apologise if a psycho writes their dialogue

[zenith jacinth]

Fair

[balmy storm]

DAMN NEMESIS LOL

[cerulean kiln]

I’m not sorry

I must speak Xata

[solid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-feel-that-thats-xata-xata-warframe-meme-gif-15531284589461707381

[zenith jacinth]

Its haralds are the stars it fells...

[solid otter]

The sky and earth aflame

[undone lodge]

The Operator actually has according to the Blood Of Perita stuff. We just can’t do it in game on account of, obvious reasons

[undone lodge]

Haralds

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[mental ice]

Weird but alright I guess 🤷‍♂️

[zenith jacinth]

The stars it fells just turn into copies of some german/swiss/austrian dude named harald

[exotic nebula]

Just fought my 30th? Roathe still no removal of Anathema I'm gonna start tweaking if I hear "I'll see you.. soon.." one more time

[zenith jacinth]

WAIT. FOR. TOMORRO.

[exotic nebula]

Oi this one was just to get a somachord I missed

:[

[opaque dove]

Is it the rose from the abyss soma?

[exotic nebula]

yes

[opaque dove]

Do you know where it is?

[exotic nebula]

when you spawn in it's on a cliff in the spawnroom

[opaque dove]

Had that issue, went and kicked Roathe’s tail solo

[livid glen]

To be honest, I never really thought about it but I personally never really felt like she needed to apologize. Like, was she sometimes a bit rude? Sure. But not to the degree that would require forgiveness. It's not... insulting insults, if you understand me.

Or maybe I'm just more tolerant to it because I too rarely apologize for my insults, lol.

[zenith jacinth]

Likely the latter, and you don't need to insult to be rude

[pure merlin]

Can someone explain to me how the rewards for the Isolation vault bounties work ? I'm going insane

[worn fjord]

Do you mean the percentage drop chance for each reward or?

[pure merlin]

So I'm grinding the Sporothrix barrel and stock, I know there's like 3 different types of rewards, common, uncommon (sporothrix parts), and rare, and I struggle to understand how I'm supposed to do the bounty to get those to drop, like am I supposed to finish the bounty last stage and open the vault, or am I supposed to just leave after killing the Necramechs ? I've done 200+ runs so far and I haven't had a single drop, so I'm just confused how I'm supposed to grind for those parts. I've checked the wiki multiple times, I just don't get what I'm supposed to do. So either I'm doing this wrong, or I have insanely bad RNG on those stages, but I feel like I've only gotten either from common reward pool or rare, and not uncommon

[worn fjord]

Hmm well here the wiki shows that the parts will drop in Tier 3 . Not Tier 1 and 2 - https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Isolation_Vault#Tier_3:_L50-60

Percentage drop chance 3.75%

[pure merlin]

Yeah, I always do it in tier 3

[worn fjord]

“Solving the Requiem Cipher will complete the bonus bounty and provide an additional Reward from the drop table”

So you should do the bonus part

Opening the vault

[pure merlin]

When it's the rotation for the receiver, I get it every 2 bounties, when it's the rotation for the stock and barrel, I get absolutely everything else but sporothrix parts

But ig I'll continue to do that then, thanks

[worn fjord]

Damn 😭

[pure merlin]

Going insane from doing 6h of bounties in Deimos everyday

[worn fjord]

Is the part tradable? I can check if I have some and trade it with you

[pure merlin]

They are yeah, I don't have plat for the trade rn tho

[worn fjord]

No need to give me plat. One fish will do

[pure merlin]

Alright I mean, if that doesn't bother you

[worn fjord]

Let me finish the mission and check my inventory

[pure merlin]

Yep

[worn fjord]

Ah damn I only got an extra main blueprint

If I get any blueprints for the parts I’ll let you know tho

[pure merlin]

Lol that's fine, thank you

[worn fjord]

Hopefully you get them to drop

You got thissss

[pure merlin]

Hopefully
I just hope I don't become part of the infested with the amount of time I spend in Deimos 😔

[worn fjord]

Entrati family: “First time? Don’t worry you’ll get used to it”

[pure merlin]

About to become a damn flesh flower named Ayatan

The joy also to spend so much time just for Necraloid to hit me with the Inaros special

[undone lodge]

Inaros Special?

[pure merlin]

Going in circles and not follow the path to the next rune code thing

In case someone needs to laugh, I definitely am 🔥

[limpid gale]

Quincy is still being weird with me on KIM, he keeps thinking I’m in a relationship with a Hex Member when I’m not. I’m with Marie.

Anyone else having this issue?

His chats don’t ever update and just stops talking after the second message in

[real niche]

You can be with a Hex and Triad member at the same time

People got angry that you couldn't be with multiple people before and now we got this mess of a polyamorous setup

[south fable]

Yeah its a glitch I had as well

[limpid gale]

Wait we can?

I noticed the option but never did since I didn’t think the game allowed polyamory and that the game was just being weird on me

[worn fjord]

This glitch happens since the Triad came after the Hex chats..so there are no updated dialogues for Quincy if you’re dating a Triad member

He’s stuck with assuming you’re only dating a Hex member and not anyone from the Triad

[limpid gale]

Ah I see, thank you Mar

That’s what I pretty much assumed

[frozen wave]

I've done all 21 Descendia runs with Roathe and we were at best friends but he's just decided he wants me to wipe his memory and now we're anathema - is this a glitch or did I actually bungle it?

[real niche]

You still need to make him accept the fact he took the serum willingly through the convos

[frozen wave]

Just as long as it's not completely blocked, that's fine.

[real niche]

If no one from the Triad is giving convos, then you're screwed

[frozen wave]

Nah I'm cool with everyone else, I'll see what it looks like after reset. I didn't have any opportunities to even discuss the serum so assuming it just hasn't happened yet.

[flat pilot]

i just got another date from lyon, i thought it would be only one so does anyone know how many are there?? :3

[pure merlin]

"Mon miracle", damn

[flat pilot]

yeah its so cute, i love when he calls me that :3

[real niche]

It's not about being cool with them. If you failed to get Roathe to accept his truth the first time, then you need Lyon and Marie to help with the second chance

[pure merlin]

Different from being called "pet" lol

[flat pilot]

oh... roathe?? xD

[pure merlin]

Yeah, lmfao

He also says "Lover" or "My love"

[upper skiff]

hai :D idk if this is the best place for this, but I went from best friends with Roathe before the hotfix - the hotfix happened and I went in to anathema, so i did the roathe fight up until I got the honoria (21 times) and now I've been stuck at close since then 🤔 shall I just do a few more runs of the Roathe fight?

[amber terrace]

If I may pester, has the Loid Entrati KIM bugs been hotfixed yet or is this whole thing a code issue?

[flat pilot]

pet its nice too tho i kinda like it......

[pure merlin]

Did he continue messaging you since or he hasn't in a few days?

[pure merlin]

It's been fixed for some, still bugged for others

[amber terrace]

still bugged for others
I guess I rolled bad on my bug issue luck : (

[upper skiff]

I had these 2 conversations with him, the Nitokh and zealots one are repeats as far as I can tell

[pure merlin]

The zealots convo was today ?

[upper skiff]

I think so (I did it at reset so i kind of forgot lol)

I've progressed with Marie to best friends and loved with Lyon as well as getting their help for the family

because I was considering just doing a reset but since I ended up progressing with them I was wondering what was meant to happen with Roathe

[pure merlin]

Uh, and you're still on close with Roathe ?

[upper skiff]

yep

[pure merlin]

I think you'll still be getting a convo on daily reset, but I have doubts for this one

[upper skiff]

guess I'll have to wait 2 hours :O i'm hoping it's not doomed

[pure merlin]

I got the same convos as you, but see I have an extra one aswell, that one's relatively important if I remember correctly

So my guess is, maybe daily reset you'll get it, then reach Best Friends with Roathe

If you don't and get no message from Roathe anymore for max 2 days, maybe send a ticket to DE

[upper skiff]

gotcha, yeah I don't have that one at all, thanks a bunch for the help :3

[pure merlin]

Yeah no problem, you just gotta play the waiting game for now ig

[undone lodge]

Anyone else’s KIM not registering that you’ve gotten a Triad member to agree when it comes to convos about the Loid/Family stuff?

[flat pilot]

yep, its bugged still afaik

[fiery oyster]

anyone know where I can get updates on particular issues? still thinking if I should just reset the Triad

still no convos

with this convo being the problem as it ended abruptly

[pure merlin]

You can check the Warframe bug forum for what people are writing
Apart from the announcements here and on the forum and the patch notes, there's not much updates from DE yet

https://forums.warframe.com/forum/149-bug-reports/

[fiery oyster]

hm, know when the next hotfix is out?

[pure merlin]

I personally have no idea

Maybe some other people saw updates from DE on socials and could tell you

[fiery oyster]

hope its soon

[pure merlin]

They will most definitely talk about some of the issues on the next Devstream

[fiery oyster]

I've seen others get the cutscene and that now so I'm getting a little impatient lol

[pure merlin]

Honestly seeing your issue and someone else's, it feels like Roathe's just not properly transitionning from Close to Best Friends and continuing the convos

[fiery oyster]

yeah and I dont wanna reset cause I know for a damn fact I did everything right - blind too

but its basically softlocked

[pure merlin]

I wouldn't recommend you to reset, just to wait, sadly

[fiery oyster]

its been so long now though, I dont mind waiting more but damn, y'know?

I dont mean disrespect to DE, take your time and make sure its all fixed, dont rush it! but like.. yeah lol

[flat pilot]

yeah i think the devils triad needed some more time in the oven

[fiery oyster]

yeah, be a first time in a long time thats happened

if it ever has happened before, that is

[pure merlin]

I guess the wait feels longer too because most of the bugs and issues happened while they were on holidays, so it's taking a lil longer

[fiery oyster]

yeah, actually, forgot about that

so used to DE pushing out hotfixes very fast so its deffo that

[balmy storm]

They def needed to be delayed to the echoes update, unfortunately they tied too much of it directly to the Old Peace update itself

[amber terrace]

Another daily reset and I’m still bugged out of reuniting Loid with the Entrati’s. This is actually getting irritating. Is there a bug report I can upvote/add myself as a tally to the amount of players still bugged?

[lavish sundial]

Oh yeah I’m not the only one with that problem

[amber terrace]

Part of me thinks that I have the Play All Conversations KIM setting toggled on is partly responsible for this bug but I don’t have the patience for a whole reset

[worn fjord]

No it’s happening for everyone

[lavish sundial]

Been wondering why I lost the tag for Roathe on reuniting the family

[night zephyr]

All we can do is wait 😔

[worn fjord]

Especially for ones who did that Roathe convo about reuniting the family

[lavish sundial]

I’m hoping we get a bug fix or something because I don’t wanna redo all the effort to romance the ghost sister of battle lash

[worn fjord]

Maybe a free reset for only Roathe chats (and he doesn’t accuse us of resetting)

[amber terrace]

If I may ask a question that I’m not sure anyone but DE knows, when will they get back into the office post holidays?

[worn fjord]

We can’t tell him “uh so I experienced a bug Roathe my bad”

[worn fjord]

“A bug? You mean…you turned back time because of a pest?Who was it?”

[night zephyr]

They are already back

It's just that the latest hotfix didn't get every triad bug

[worn fjord]

Yea they’re already back

And are notified of the bugs

[amber terrace]

I won’t lie, I’m starting to think, with my staggering lack of game development experience or literacy, that the current front facing bug is a code issue, hence why it hasn’t been fixed yet?

[worn fjord]

Even after the hotfix too

[worn fjord]

The Triad bugs are more complex to untangle

As stated there

[amber terrace]

Forgive my verbose word bloat of a message. Allow me to rectify.
Are the KIM issues code issues or hotfix issues?

[worn fjord]

I think it’s hotfix

Previous KIM bugs have been sorted through hotfix I believe

[pure merlin]

Heyy somes news, nice

[worn fjord]

From how they describe it here, KIM chats are resolved through Hotfix

[amber terrace]

Ah, so now a further question: I know DE doesn’t do weekends, and I assume they go home at about 5 PM EST, so is there a time window frame that DE usually tries to release their hotfixes?

[worn fjord]

I don’t know… honestly all we can do is wait

Again Triad KIM bugs are more complex than usual so it’s taking time

I’m sure they’re working hard on it now as we speak

[lavish sundial]

Agreed

[misty veldt]

I feel as though the reason I have yet to get Marie's family reunion agreement message is because I have the randomize conversations within the rank before moving on turned on. Dunno though

[worn fjord]

Yea since a majority of the bugs are mostly concerning Roathe, it makes sense to do so

[lavish sundial]

True, but annoying as well

[worn fjord]

That’s most likely the reason. It’s unfortunate though for those that didn’t turn it on.

Technically even if the option was off, pivotal convos like that should’ve been triggered to play

[misty veldt]

The most recent conversations I've had with any of the triad was with roathe and lyon

Roathes being ||is the indifference a god and can we kill it||

Lyons being about ||rell and the lake of harrow||

[pure merlin]

You def have more convos to go through

[worn fjord]

Oh then you have a lot of convos to do

[misty veldt]

Marie's was the rosthe repair a few days ago

[worn fjord]

What rank are you

With all three

[jagged summit]

Day 6: Roathe’s still blue balling me

[misty veldt]

Im at loved with Marie and close with the other 2. Lyon agreed which is what had me confused

[pure merlin]

Of course he would after the threats you've sent him

[jagged summit]

Ik Albrecht is behind all these bugs but I just can’t prove it

[worn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-gif-3191941303944791684

[jagged summit]

PUH-lease he stopped answering way long before I started sending him threats, as if he doesn’t like them either 😭😭

[pure merlin]

Albrecht coc blocking

[pure merlin]

He loves them, pretty sure you can antagonize him in chat and you get chemistry from it 👀

[jagged summit]

Yeah well I would if I got convos with him 😭 idk how much longer I can be patient for without resetting him and trying again 🫩

[zinc yacht]

does roathe care about times doing the decendia from top to bottom, or just how many times you kill him directly?

[pure merlin]

Kill him directly

[zinc yacht]

tysm man! :D

[worn fjord]

Just do the last floor yea

[pure merlin]

1 month, 3 weeks, 25 days, 4h, 50mins and 1s

That's how long you'll wait

[worn fjord]

Wait why 1 month and 3 weeks 😭

[pure merlin]

I don't know, but pretend it's real

[jagged summit]

hey so wtf is your problem

[pastel pasture]

if the hex had win/fail states like the rest of KIM does, what do you think it'd be?

Amir would probably be convincing him being a cephalon is bad vs him refusing to change his beliefs....thats all i got

[pure merlin]

People that aren't blue

[balmy storm]

Amir’s is nobody plays D&D with him

Arthur’s is he DOESN’T make you square spaghetti

[pure merlin]

Eleanor maybe just doesn't get over Christopher and isolates herself more ?

[pastel pasture]

you can do that already though

im talking overarching story that fundamentaly changes the character

[balmy storm]

Ig the real fail condition is you never save them actually

[pastel pasture]

I guess Quincy's would be that he doesn't open up and stays the like. everyone at arms length behavior

[balmy storm]

Quincy never likes Amir
Arthur and Aoi never makeup
Eleanor and Lettie are still at odds

[pastel pasture]

part of "fixing" amir would involve having Arthur and/or Quincy talk to him about his nightmares and getting everyone to play D&D

like how Marie and Lyon chats can help Roathe

[balmy storm]

Lettie blocking you if you’re disrespectful to her would make sense
But also I think the Hex might realize they kinda have to work with us so maybe not

The Triad can afford to be more. Petty

[pastel pasture]

honestly Amir kinda easy to write a branching story for as he already kinda has it?

You can already just not convince him to talk to Arthur and not convince Quincy to talk to him

but as far as i know it doesn't really impact his character beyond the one chat

[pastel pasture]

There's quite a few chats that'd be perfect to put an Anathema on

maybe have it so "hex kim 2.0" only unlocks after seeing the finale

[balmy storm]

Again though, I think due to their situation they wouldn’t do that

[pure merlin]

Lettie would definitely be one of the hardest to talk to

[pastel pasture]

yeah I guess

[balmy storm]

The Triad aren’t stuck in a timeloop nor are in a crisis situation, they have problems yes but not on the level of the Hex

[pastel pasture]

could have all the anathema paths have them be like

"I'm fine with working with you. I don't hate you. but I'm done talking to you in my spare time."

[balmy storm]

I mean the Triad might still be in a timeloop, idr how their situation exactly works but y’know what I mean (hopefully)

[pastel pasture]

Triad is not in a time loop

[balmy storm]

Yeah I can see that

[balmy storm]

And yet we can reset them to a certain point

[pastel pasture]

that's explained

Due to their connection to the helminth you can wipe their surface level memories

[balmy storm]

All I know is Roathe used what little of the helminth he had to get to the present

[balmy storm]

Oh pfft
Well damn

I think that might actually be worse than resetting the loop

[pastel pasture]

Marie and Roathe both remember things, although with Marie she doesn't fully realize her mind has been wiped

she just get deja vu

maybe Lyon too i haven't looked into it too muchg

[balmy storm]

I’d think Lyon would but he’s more focused on
His situation

Really was not expecting him to be my favorite of them lol

[pure merlin]

How did people get that Arthur spaghetti dialogue ? I thought I got it but apparently not

[pastel pasture]

I like how with Roathe you can either let him figure it out himself or go "yeah we've done this all before and i wiped your memories" and he justs goes "you did WHAT"

[balmy storm]

LOL

[pastel pasture]

its when he asks you why you cut your food into cubes

you go the right path he offers to make you square spaghetti

[balmy storm]

I will have decide what i do with the blue cat man when I eventually reset

[pure merlin]

That's

Crazy

[balmy storm]

Which will prob be whenever they fix things so I can get the good ending

Roathe did ask me to reset them so

Though I wonder why we can’t do it individually?

[balmy storm]

Since we’re interacting with the infestation rather than a loop

Maybe their proximity has “linked” them to some degree

[quick smelt]

Spaghet

[pastel pasture]

because it'd clog the menu probably because each group of people are linked to the same like...hive mind?

[quick smelt]

Chef Warframe who’s 4 is throwing square spaghetti at people

[pure merlin]

Lmaoo

[pastel pasture]

the round table are not a hive mind, but their warframe strains are all part of the same hive mind cluster

[balmy storm]

They’re all linked to the same hivemind
The helminth

[pastel pasture]

at least with the grey strain we see the hive mind is a bit more nauced then just "the one"

[balmy storm]

All of the protos are part of the larger infested hivemind
Or rather
Will be in time

[balmy storm]

It’s all one hivemind though

Just different portions of the mind

[pastel pasture]

like i said. it's a bit more nuanced then just "the one hivemind"

[balmy storm]

Yeah so what I just said

[pastel pasture]

cool

[balmy storm]

Its both one hivemind and there are different sections to it

[pastel pasture]

anyway shoehorning lore into gameplay mechanics aside

[balmy storm]

Also the protos aren’t the grey strain

[pastel pasture]

i know

[quick smelt]

We need a new infestation strain

ALAD V, MAKE A NEW STRAIN!

[balmy storm]

We just got one last year 😭

[pastel pasture]

i was calling to a more obvious example of the infestation showing a bit more independence from the core

[quick smelt]

A n o t h e r o n e

[balmy storm]

How many do you want ):

[pastel pasture]

also i gotta say

[quick smelt]

Enough to give them a chance to hold off Wally

[pure merlin]

I've checked all my chats and I've never gotten this conversation, wtf

[pastel pasture]

they should add dialogue for when you reset the hex/round table but not the other side

[balmy storm]

Helminth is kinda a better example of that since while part of the larger hivemind it expresses it love through not murder

[pastel pasture]

do you have all kim conversations turned on?

[balmy storm]

How can they hold off something they can’t infect

[quick smelt]

Imagine Wally trying to attack and Buffed Giga-Helminth jumps it

[pure merlin]

I think? Not sure what you mean by that

[pastel pasture]

`

[pure merlin]

No I don't have that checked

[pastel pasture]

then that's why

[pure merlin]

If I checked it now, would I get new convos i've never gotten?

[pastel pasture]

no

[pure merlin]

Sad

[balmy storm]

Time to do it all again!

[pastel pasture]

you'd have to reset to hear all of early rank convos

its worth it though

if you eat the square spaghetti you get several call backs where you taunt Arthur

like there are a lot of convos where you can remind Arthur about it

[pure merlin]

No way, It took me 3 months to decide already whever or not I wanted to reset the roundtable just to fix Minerva and Velimir, I'd hate resetting and losing everything I've done a year ago

[pastel pasture]

then you shall live with your choices

[pure merlin]

Yes, I'm happy with my choices

[pastel pasture]

you should resett to fix min and vel tho

[pure merlin]

I did

[pastel pasture]

good

[pure merlin]

I hate it

[pastel pasture]

because they are really cute when they are a couple

[balmy storm]

Did you get all the isleweaver spider fragments

[pure merlin]

I don't even know if I'm doing this right

[balmy storm]

The neci lore goes crazy

[pastel pasture]

MIN ||FINISHES VEL'S JOKE HE FORGOT THE PUNCHLINE FOR||

[pure merlin]

Nope, didn't spend too much time in Isleweaver

[quick smelt]

Remind him so much that the Excalibur Warframe tweaks out when it hears “Square Spaghetti”

[balmy storm]

I recommend looking up where the fragments are and just getting them in one run

[pure merlin]

Is that gonna matter if I want them back together ?

[balmy storm]

If you got the password from her parents you’ll get somethin special

[pure merlin]

The what 👀

[balmy storm]

They need to be together to give you the password

[pure merlin]

Well, hopefully I don't mess it up this time, Minerva and Velimir are legit the only protos I've never been "best friends" with, never succeeded with them, succeeded with everyone else

[balmy storm]

It was honestly really cool that we got the password from them and then it was almost immediately touched on in the following large update

Gives good insight as to how we might be able to fight Walldo

[pure merlin]

So I missed huge contents because I didn't get frost guy and poison lady back together ? 😭

[balmy storm]

Not huge but you did miss out on content for not getting the viral couple together yeah

You do also need those spider fragments

Isleweaver piggybacks off Techrot Encore in a lot of ways quite wonderfully I’d say
Mostly cause it felt very cohesive

[pure merlin]

Oh well, at least it won't be as bad as the Sporothrix grind, I'll do that "tomorrow"

[balmy storm]

1999 to techrot encore to isleweaver

[balmy storm]

Coda sporothix:

[pure merlin]

Already got that one, trying to master every single thing in the game, the grind is painful sometimes

[balmy storm]

Speaking of, it is fantastic with debilitate 👀
I’m running an all status blast corrosive build and oml it’s amazing
Especially with void damage in there too

[balmy storm]

Ah, I wish you luck

[pure merlin]

Nice, might give it a chance then

[balmy storm]

Don’t even need headshots for it

Funny splosive sniper

[pure merlin]

Thank you, already done the warframes, missing 20 primarys

[balmy storm]

Daaang, gettin closer!

[pure merlin]

Big damage

So far the worst grind is the sporothrix

[lofty girder]

Albrecht just has void level tism

[solid otter]

That honestly wouldn't shock me

[heady dew]

I think I screwed myself out of reuniting the family and into a reset

I never had a conversation with Lyon about uniting the family and he has stopped texting me

And now Roathe did not text me today

So idk what i do now

[jagged sable]

You may have gotten a bug.

like, your convo may have gotten rewritten to something you didn't choose.

[heady dew]

Should I reset then

Cuz it doesnt seem like I will be getting anything more

[jagged sable]

Best to wait til DE fixes the bug.

[heady dew]

Have they addressed it at all

[pastel pasture]

probably not yet

There are still several KIM bugs

give it a hotfix or two that mention KIM fixes

[jagged sable]

Yeah, it'd suck tremendously to reset all your progress and your relationship just because of a bug.

[heady dew]

I’ll give it like two weeks

[pastel pasture]

it'd suck more if you just run into the same bug

[heady dew]

Hope they address it soon cuz I want that cutscene

Like I even redeemed Roathe but I never got Lyon to talk about the family

[jagged sable]

Yeah, if it was something that'd reset like a mission's worth of progress that's one thing. But it reset's a month's worth of progress, that's a whole lotta hell no.

[heady dew]

I will give it two weeks

If nothing changes then I’m resetting and doing it passively

Have they addressed it at all or no

Or acknowledged that it was a problem

Ik they fixed a lot of KIM stuff but obviously not all

I just want that damn cutscene

I never even got Roathe’s other rank 6 convo either

[pastel pasture]

Roathe is a mysterious creature

[heady dew]

I just want the cutscene man

[pastel pasture]

well I want a cutscene of Roathe and Bird 3 playing Komi

if y'all haven't seen it Roathe has 'dating but not me' dialogue about bird 3. ||"I have sucessfully taught Bird 3 the rules of Komi. He is objectively terrible at it. It'd help if he'd stop eating all the pieces"||

[lofty girder]

Bird 3 vs Sol/Terra/Lua, who'd win

[pastel pasture]

Bird 3 says "wuk" then is promptly crushed under the massive gravity of the sun

[heady dew]

I hope they fix the KIM soon

[lavish sundial]

I got both

[heady dew]

I never got a convo with Lyon about uniting the family

Honestly maybe its cuz I didnt have play all convos on but thats kinda bullshit if thats the case

[steep totem]

where's that meme about one guy confused over losing at chess and his opponent eating all his pieces when he's not looking?

[fringe pond]

Yes
I don’t know why anyone hasn’t answered that yet

[heady dew]

Hope we get a hotfix soon

[fringe pond]

We should

[lofty girder]

I meant the duviri rabbit... But still, bird 3 v Sun

[pastel pasture]

oh lmao. i thought you were talking about the luminaries

[soft lotus]

so this is part of the unum tower, right?
is there something in wf that isn't made out of flesh?

[lavish sundial]

Agreed. I would really like the update

[lavish sundial]

Corpus stuff, orokin stuff was tech and biotech basically.

[soft lotus]

crazy how well textured it is for smth out of bounds

[hallow wharf]

I can't even get Roathe to rank 6😭

[soft lotus]

bro, it glistens and has wrinkles

[digital needle]

This killed me

[balmy storm]

? Thats flesh tower

Oh you were asking what isnt made of flesh, sorry lol

Orokin used biotech
Grineer use chemicals and are more grungy
Corpus use what you’d think is classic sci-fi tech while trying to piggyback off the collapsed empire
And ofc the Infested is all meat while integrating literally anything it touches into it

[night grail]

Excalibur and braton, based

[vale ledge]

Are we supposed to run out of conversations with Marie/Lyon/Roathe? I just logged in and don't see any new messages. i've reeached Loved, Best friends, and Anathema (previously was Close, ran out of things to say) with the 3 respectively.

[tight pagoda]

Anathema means you're blocked out of further content with Roathe.

What does the notes section say?

Have you listened to all 21 voice memos (unlocked by doing his Descendia boss fight 21 times)?

[vale ledge]

"I've done something to upset Roathe, or I've run out of opportunities to move forward with him. Unfortunately theres only one way forward for me now..."

Yes I have listened to all 21 voice memos (I have the Honoria for that), and I have completed this week's Descendia as well.

It turned into this when previously it was Close, and I was able to choose a romance with him if I wanted

[tight pagoda]

Yeah unfortunately you may be bugged

[vale ledge]

Still waiting for DE to fix the Reunion scene T_T

[tight pagoda]

Either you'll need to reset or wait for another hotfix

[vale ledge]

AFAIK I've hit all the requirements for it

[vale ledge]

:C

[tight pagoda]

I had the same issue

[vale ledge]

oof

[tight pagoda]

It seems like trying to get Roathe to face the truth is meant to get him to block you and you need Lyon or Marie to talk him out of it, but that's bugged

[vale ledge]

rip

the wait continues then

[mental ice]

https://tenor.com/view/clem-grakata-warframe-gif-2696399162211439695

[prisma island]

https://youtu.be/7pZdfjlkdX0?si=21EHYtZZZzNm_h_z

[fading current]

yes

[uneven talon]

I had the same thing

I got a convo after I had done the 21 chats that was like looping

[placid orbit]

hum, reset today as the triad was still broken for me - and he didn't remember the >21

I didn't want to get yelled at, but was prepared - ah well, guess I'll take it

[fading current]

It’s pretty buggy rn for everyone unfortunately

[prisma island]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTcFgmYkanw/?igsh=MXF4Z2xiZXc0aDRxZg==

amprovised

New Excalibur build is out. I know its been done before but I just wanted to take a Crack at it #warframecommunity #warframeIG #warframe #tennocreate

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[balmy storm]

I’m def waiting to do a full reset til we have confirmed fixes

Lot not enough post-hotfix where it says they fixed it
It’s probably best to wait til we know 100%

[placid orbit]

...yeah, he doesn't remember the 21+ runs for me because I have to do them all over again now, too. "Fun"...

[balmy storm]

You shouldn’t, sounds like a bug

I really wouldn’t recommend resetting when its still broken
That’s not gonna fix it

[fading current]

Yea even I’ve been tempted but tonight I got a chat with roathe that everyone and everything was in a cool spot and he’s ready to help when I thought he hated my guts cuz it felt like I missed a convo or two. And when I look on the kimulacrum I know for a fact I’m missing a few chats that I missed thanks to all the bugs

[floral badge]

Roathe just one shot me tf

[manic sun]

is the lack of messages from loid still bugged, i have gotten all 3 to agree to reunite the family, althouggh that line is missing from roathes profile now for some reason

will i need to reset?

[fading current]

They’re bugged don’t worry yet…I’d wait for another hotfix before attempting any kind of reset

Especially if you like where you are at with the rest of the triad and roathe is just buggy as all hell

[warm anvil]

have you visited deimos yest

or nvm I'm mixing up the order of things

[manic sun]

no i thought loid has to message me

im done with all of the messages too from the other 3

[stone agate]

Yippie

[pure merlin]

Once you finished with everyone agreeing to help you, Loid will send you a message, and after that you go to the Necralisk

[robust swallow]

uh, gang, i think protoframe marker is not working as intended

[balmy storm]

Third party site, not updated yet

[rancid pilot]

Last time I checked didn't have Uriel and Nokko too

[robust swallow]

it has uriel now

yesterday's was uriel

[rancid pilot]

Weird they added uriel but didnt change the Wisp proto

[jagged summit]

wait in what sense? Are you referring to the Anathema phase?

[halcyon seal]

Hello, chew toy

[winged sandal]

So Lyon and Marie seems to stop talking to me even though we end off on a good note? (Marie agreeing to help reunite Loid and Lyon haven't said anything about that but do said that he will fight by my side)
Is this normal?

[supple dagger]

Congratulations!I’m still waiting for my perfect ETA mission setup to try that

[pure merlin]

Probably bugged, because it's the same for a lot of other people

[hidden scroll]

so i completed all the triad chats but for some reason i still have no loid conversation , is this a bug?

or like a timegated thing

[pure merlin]

Did you just complete it today or was it a couple of days ago?

[jagged sable]

check your previous convos because there's a chance a bug rewrote your convo as if you said something else entirely even though you picked the options you meant to.

hopefully it can be fixed without a reset but dude, damned if it ain't a nasty bug.

[pure merlin]

That wouldn't influence whever Loid messages you or not tho
Like as long as he got everyone to agree to help and got the last convo with Roathe, he would get the message from Loid, it's just that for some people it's still bugged and doesn't trigger, and for others with the hotfix it works

[jagged sable]

In my case it did.

[hidden scroll]

yesterday was my last convo with roathe

so i assumed it was gonna show up today

[pure merlin]

Yeah then it's bugged and you just need to wait for another hotfix, don't reset

[hidden scroll]

ok

sadge

[pure merlin]

Bug's Triad

[hidden scroll]

should i post it in #1444128929320534026 ?

or is it like a known thing

[pure merlin]

It's a known thing

[hidden scroll]

damn

[pure merlin]

You can still post smth if you want tho, either there or in the Triad's forum on the site

[hidden scroll]

these bugs are depriving me of my old man yaoi lore

[pure merlin]

https://forums.warframe.com/forum/2177-the-devils-triad-bugs/

[solid otter]

Exactly its a crime.

Not that there's much with reuniting loid. Just that ||grandma knows of wally, and Albrecht didn't like his exwife||

[pure merlin]

You're not missing anything on that, lol

[rancid pilot]

I feel like the latter was pretty apparent with his relationship with Loid and Roathe's KIM convos

[floral condor]

So what's the story behind the infested lichs? Did the infection like singing boys?

[hearty pendant]

there's a pc next to aoi in the mall that details their creation
-# i'm trying to find the entries on the wiki but where tf are they

[rain otter]

Could have said boy band.

But what Greyscale said.

[hearty pendant]

found the entries
Gregory V, On-Lyne's manager, wanted to replace the band because they suffered from Being Human and Needing Breaks

"Been thinking a lot lately about some words I saw in your Technocyte Coda debrief: predictable, standardized, and controlled. Music to my eyes right now.
The only thing predictable about pop stars these days is their whining and complaining. Fame really goes to their perfectly coiffed heads."
so naturally the only solution is to make clones out of the techrot, obv
the project was still in progress during 1999, able to replicate their voices, for the most part, but not their appearances

[pure merlin]

Hotfix maaaaybe tomorrow, includes some fixes for the Devil's triad

[night zephyr]

Ugh, imagine being human and needing breaks 🙄 that's soooo last year

[floral condor]

So why is Venus covered in mushrooms?

[cursive narwhal]

Cause it wanted to be trust

[zenith jacinth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dark remnant]

Because it's warm and damp in those caves.

[floral condor]

So, with the factions:
Corpus, extreme capitalism
Grineer, attack of the clones
The infected the Flood

[hearty pendant]

essentially, yea

[zenith jacinth]

Infested, not infected, but yes

[dark remnant]

Corpus: Orokin Lite

[undone lodge]

Woah woah woah

The Infestation are nothing like the Flood

The Flood is evil and malicious

[floral condor]

🤓

[undone lodge]

But the Infestation is kind and full of love ☺️

[pure merlin]

Is the serum that the protos took relatively the same thing that was injected to make warframes ? Or is it an Albrecht's special?

[hearty pendant]

iirc its modified to be a slower transformation, albrecht needed them to be sane for longer

[real niche]

Modified version of the same serum

[pure merlin]

Yeah, I see
Adding that to the list of the reasons why Albrecht needs to die

[amber terrace]

If I may pester, I didn’t watch the devshorts, any word on the current Roathe KIM profile notes shenanigans?

[pure merlin]

Maybe an hotfix tomorrow for some stuff, including Roathe's profile notes, some gemini skin appearances bugs. Reb didn't say more

[amber terrace]

Thanks for the heads up : )

[pure merlin]

She said they're aiming for tomorrow but no promises

Oh yeah, she also mentionned a moonwalking bug with Mesa that apparently should be fixed on upcoming hotfix

[edgy lark]

Quick question; is there a somachord for smiles from juran? I was redoing sacrifice to get its somachords but I was a bit bummed out to find that it wasn’t there. I know that to take it’s pain away has its segment but I was kinda hoping for a full track :<

[hearty pendant]

afaik, its just that bit of To Take Its Pain Away

[edgy lark]

Ah damn. Alrighty, thanks!

[slow wedge]

I'm fangirling lmao

[deft mist]

The warrior that didnt wantt to be one amd the soldier that became a devil

[slow wedge]

Wait i love that

[pastel pasture]

do the triad have any interactions when seeing their relevant frame?

ah heck. I ran into the Loid bug

Everyone agreed to help, fixed Roathe. no new messages from Triad

[hearty pendant]

yea i've hit the same
roathe stopped, then the other two

[deft mist]

I read a lot and sometimes write

Its my interpretation of thier charecters

[pure merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ticket-gif-4770829

[pure merlin]

I don't think so, did the Hex have special interactions like that?

[pastel pasture]

i don't think so

[pure merlin]

Would be a cool thing to add ngl

[lavish sundial]

Feck, same here

I hate this for I genuinely want this glitch. I also keep having my UI theme resetting on me too so that’s fun

[zinc grail]

I have a Devil Triad KIM question (involves the ending so going to spoiler tag just to be safe). I reset the Triad and I want the ||Loid Reunites with the Family|| Ending. To get that do I ||need to make the deal with Roathe||? As I notice I get +Chemistry if I don't.

[misty veldt]

I now await Marie to send me a message about getting the man upstairs since lyon has agreed to help me

[balmy storm]

Are these seriously the only options
None of these fit how I see Wally :/

[hearty pendant]

you get more in-depth options later in the convo, but its like that for the first bit

you don't need to make the deal. the deal just ensures that roathe will help. you can still convince him without it

[pure merlin]

So ig the deal is the easy way and not making it is the pain in the ass way?

[balmy storm]

||Which is closest to
“He’s not a god, he existed to a degree before Albrecht but he influenced/gave it form”||

[steep totem]

In my opinion?
The "I think you're full of sh*t"

[hearty pendant]

probably the 'in between' option? ik that goes against the first bit but its the closest to ||existed before then albrecht influenced it||
he does hit you with the 'i hate you eternalism types' if you go down that path, though
||'in between' and 'always god' rejoin farther down, 'full of shit' ends the convo, agreeing with him skips a bunch and rejoins after where 'in between' and 'always god' rejoin||

[balmy storm]

Oh so this convo just sucks regardless :(

[hearty pendant]

a bit, yeah

[balmy storm]

Talking to an Orokin moment
I’m tired boss

[teal valve]

Just thought now bit funny Marie calls me wolf and I am using the Voruna frame

[tight pagoda]

Lowkey I'm glad I reset the Triad

It's super interesting talking to Roathe about how we've had conversations before

[umbral crane]

WHYYYYY is ||Roathe mad at me||, i have been ||avoiding the mission|| like i was asked 😂

[hearty pendant]

he doesn't want those memories, but he needs them. go get him.

[umbral crane]

i figured it'd come up again later but like, i wasnt expecting to be accused of it with no option to stand up for myself if i had actually been actively avoiding it for the bastid lol

[night zephyr]

You gotta beat his ass

[umbral crane]

im heckin considering it lol

[night zephyr]

He is acting like a cornered animal, he lashes out at you even if you haven't done anything - but because of his turmoil, and deep down he needs to face his worst memories to push through them, though he's terrified

Basically taking his frustrations out on you. You gotta put him in his place a little

[umbral crane]

relatable content it is tempting to do as im told, knowing i can ||mention things to him if i reset though... but also the others have enough problems....|| >_>

[night zephyr]

The choice lies with you

[lofty girder]

so am i good to get Loid to go up the stairs?

[craggy ivy]

is the KIM broken for anyone else? I pick responses, but the other peeps never respond just says that they're typing.

[misty veldt]

Lowkey roathes agreement message vanished for me today and I coulda sworn it was there earlier. Lyon is now the only one with that message and im now best friends with both of the previously mentioned

[lucid peak]

so…i gotta reset? is that what he means by this?
also i have done all the descendia runs, we are dating, and i am best friends with Lyon and Marie, if that means anything

[hearty pendant]

mhm, that's what you just agreed to do. dunno if you can get out of that or not. might be able to get an ending if you wait

[lucid peak]

i gotcha, i have just been so confused by him lmao

everyone has had different experiences so i was just unsure

[balmy storm]

I recommend not resetting til the bugs are fixed

[lucid peak]

ah, yeah, that’s true

[hearty pendant]

mm. ^ that too
hotfix is aimed for tomorrow, hopefully that'll fix the issues. most of em at least

[lucid peak]

understood 🫡

[solid otter]

YARHHH

[midnight swallow]

excuse me

why

[balmy storm]

Seriously tho
Why

[midnight swallow]

ok so i found it the conversation checks hellstory which is at 21 or greator for me then takes me over to another evulation which is

[hearty pendant]

oh ig that makes sense

[midnight swallow]

and because im not dating any characters or doing any dating deals. i achive the false and the other evulation far strand which checks for nothing.

so i get end or confess. like why is there a not a no rizz route in this conversation. im check down the lines to see if i can talk to him with out accidently dating him or triggering no date

cos im leaving everyone on will date and friend zoning them

yea i just have to pick end and gain no chem from this chat because all routes lead to isdating true or nodate is true

i cant even just tell him i care about him and hes a good friend

what

oh ok i just opened lyons conversation and he just talked at me and left the chat without be picking anything

[solid otter]

Yeah I think thats just a conversation

[midnight swallow]

it triggered best friend so it was the only close rank conversation i had left too.

[solid otter]

Eek. Yeah I had that yesterday

[balmy storm]

Isn’t that the one where he thanks you

[midnight swallow]

bro said two sentence and left

[midnight swallow]

yea

[balmy storm]

Yeah that’s why

[waxen sphinx]

My brain going blank! :')

[balmy storm]

Oh you’re there too

[waxen sphinx]

I said something about how indifference wasnt a god until entrati interacted with it

[balmy storm]

Idek if I wanna have the convo with him cause none of the options fit my perception of the situation

[midnight swallow]

yea these indifference heavy conversations with roathe are frustrating because i cant say directly what i want. i have to pick from pre written options and they dont fit with how with what i want to say

[midnight swallow]

yea this

[waxen sphinx]

I still dont understand what the Indifference is! XD

[balmy storm]

It feels like DE is kinda forcing us into a corner that just
Doesn’t work with a major theory

[waxen sphinx]

Which do I choose?

[balmy storm]

Tbh
The 4th one maybe lmao

This suuuucks

[waxen sphinx]

Ok the text glowed thats good

[worn fjord]

I just picked “I don’t know” because none of them fit what I thought

[waxen sphinx]

This is so confusing! XD

[worn fjord]

Turns out that the Boolean I got for it is MITWMaybeGod or something like that

[balmy storm]

I’m actually so vindicated I’m not the only one omg

[waxen sphinx]

Now im talking to Lyon...and hes drunk...

[solid otter]

The theory they set themselves up for? As in the Albrecht made wally bt CE?

[balmy storm]

YEAH.

[worn fjord]

I sat with that convo for so long lmao

[solid otter]

The "debatable" wine? Funny

[balmy storm]

This
Sucks

[balmy storm]

I sat so long I had to close the game to go to an appointment and haven’t logged on since :(

[worn fjord]

Real

[midnight swallow]

there are som good options which are the ones i picked but they were all heavy into this its a god thing when i dont want to say that i want to say its god like not a god itself. thats its comething we compare to a god

[solid otter]

I wonder what Loid's definition of wine is

[waxen sphinx]

Lyons just said rap tap tap im leaving

[solid otter]

Because it can only be one thing

Did the orokin preserve grapes for some reason

[balmy storm]

Lyon’s story is the best of the three

[midnight swallow]

yea rell lore W

i thought for a second it was going to turn out lyon was rells harrow that we saw crumble

[waxen sphinx]

Oh...did not expect the story to go there about Lyon connected with the other Harrow warframes...

[worn fjord]

Yea definitely and not because I’m biased

[balmy storm]

I’m not biased and I’m certain of it!

I’m really upset my partner can’t just jump into talking with him since he’s the best

[midnight swallow]

like how flare is the original temple and road in on a comit like a star man waiting in the sky to help at the outer terminus

[worn fjord]

Gameplay wise yea it sucks but I kinda like that Lyon is skeptical of talking to the Drifter. Makes sense with all the time travel and everything he had to go through

[midnight swallow]

yea lyon was very relatable on is social issues and social battery.

[balmy storm]

Yeah same

[waxen sphinx]

I just dealt with 2 crazy conversations with Roathe and Lyon, then theres Marie saying she has to tell me something silly?...XD

[midnight swallow]

lol this reminds me of JV and salvage where you can hear jordis in your brain the lower your integrity

what how did i not get this i have good ending. hmm

[solid otter]

Amir they can make me like you occasionally.

[midnight swallow]

what in the skeleton

[balmy storm]

Do we know what these booleans are for cause
I am afraid of these booleans

[hearty pendant]

no current use outside of this convo, no
that i'm aware of, at least

[midnight swallow]

yea there is no check for them yet

so im guessing they have more conversations they had worked on that uses these or they intend to make conversations that use these that didnt drop with the update itself

like how we got conversations added to the hex about roundtable

[hearty pendant]

if there's a set of booleans like VelimirEclipse, its these ones imo
set up to be used in a bigger way later

[midnight swallow]

oh yea true they did do that this time around the round table conversations had is trues that became checks in triad primary about that kind of stuff with roathe

[balmy storm]

Ok
I misclicked on the wrong one but when I get this again I’m def selecting stop

(Accidentally did maybe kill)

Omg he blocked me over that 😭

BRO WE AGREED HE AINT A GOD

I hate this man.

[midnight swallow]

yea i dont plan on looping anyone ever again

[balmy storm]

I’m resetting for the good ending anyway and cause things were horribly bugged

[midnight swallow]

i think its godlike but i can not pick that as an option your either fully pro god or anti god

like cant i just be less literal

[balmy storm]

I’m “it’s a product of conceptual embodiment” and thus it being a god is irrelevant beyond our possible fear/perception influencing him

[floral condor]

what

[hearty pendant]

✌️

[balmy storm]

You basically confirmed to Loid ya did it
Mission accomplished
Kalymos sequence complete

[midnight swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[floral condor]

yo loid

[midnight swallow]

ok good i had enough chem that if i choose not to confess i didnt get stun locked

only one proto i am rizzing and she has yet to arrive.

[balmy storm]

Hm… I wonder who it could be…

[midnight swallow]

i wonder

[solid otter]

You still got the chat messed up tho

Unfortunately you got the bug™

[balmy storm]

All Omni?

[midnight swallow]

all but one

[balmy storm]

Oh actually
What’s your opinion on Ember’s state atm? Since she’s apparently a hot topic

[solid otter]

From what ive heard she might be a little dogwater

[midnight swallow]

replace immolation with accelerant so i dont have to use an augment to get fire damage to my weapons becuase immolation sucks i subsume it off curently.
either rework inferno to be more an active fire spread off of killing rather then promoting not killing or replace it with world on fire (but not world on fire as a channel make it a duration cast)
make fireball into an exalted pistol in the same style as atlas punch and gara glass swipe ability. it should be strong and not just a glorified way to get accelerant back using an augment.
and fireblast ofcourse ajust the stats after removing immolation

i love the frame and i use it with its faults. but thats the kind of love i want to see her get

the passive is perfect at most i would want it to gain a linger so enemies that die you keep from for the duration of the heat proc rather then loosing it because someone killed it or you killed it or your pet killed it in the time between you procing them and attempting to cast your buff abililties

the main downside would be you couldnt roar and accelerant if they were both considered buff abilities

i actively hate immolations current state tho

[hearty pendant]

a lingering effect on the passive would be wonderful
90% of the time i'll light them on fire and they either die from the initial hit or die to status before i can even use it

[midnight swallow]

immolation currently it stops energy in over time. its DR is useless because overguard is needed to stay alive anyway.
its pros are increase overguard and strip per cast of fireblast
the damage increase on fireblast doesnt matter and neither on the inferno because the highest damage number her abilites does is the inital damage of inferno which is not effected by immolation so its useless again in increasing damage there
it reduces cost of fire blast and garantees full strip if your burning energy per second
but you can just build for better energy econ and double cast fireblast and get the same amount of overguard an strip without maintain the meter and stopping energy per second gains.
over all the benfits of immolation are out weigh by the negatives

it needs heavily revised or just taken out of her kit to actually be of value and not just hurt ember set ups.
when every i tried to build with immolation on the config i would hit a issue somewhere in testing.
but as soon as i started working with it subsumed out always i saw major improvements.
i think its design struggles from being the first modern day rework and frame to have a complex design in one ability that interacted with other abilities well also being afraid of making ember just do exactly what she did before which was complete fissures so quick in middle tier that people felt bored, but nowadays we have so many options for that it doesnt matter.

yea never get me started on ember lol xD

like maybe if immolation gave energy per second per enemy in range on fire then it would not be so counter. and if new world on fire damage scales up with immolation that would help since new world on fire would still probably be the highest inital damage for heat procs. mmm yea na maybe just delete immolation revise inferno into a new second ability leave fireball frienzy as is, give her world on fire back as a for but no drain and just revise her ability stats that are effected by immolation. ofcourse if you buff fireblast to 1 strip always at enough strength then also hinder it in subsume so its not a 1 strip like it is already

something i would have liked to have seen before reb started talking about returning world on fire would have been
fireblast and inferno interacting
where fireblast hitting enemies effected by inferno would trigger a mini fireblast from them that would proc enemies around that enemy allowing for a faster fire spread.
because that inferno debuffs main issue is it takes so long to gain relevant range that it just struggles to apply heat procs to anything and it doesnt apply heat procs to the effected target it just deals heat damage directly to them like its its own heat proc that doesnt get treated like a heat proc

but i would definitely hope for fireball to become an exalted pistol in the same way as gara and atlas exalts. where i could just made it up like a secondary and then get a stronger more damaging fireball poc to make the ability more of a single target high damage dealer. cos as is its just a vessel for fireball frienzy

also @balmy storm i omnia'd every heirloom to date. its my main focus of building nowadays. heirloom is true, omnia and make a build for and use on the occasion im not running ember

[small temple]

God. Seeing the convo where ||you talk to Marie about Lyon hurting himself sucks. I just lost a friend to that and god I want to cry again. I love how Warframe speaks on this topics. But I think I should probably wait on the Kim chats for a couple days. : (||

||I should’ve just skipped the chat. I hate how curious I am. It kills me.||

[prisma island]

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[slow wedge]

Yeah, I totally agree, just never thought of it like that 😊

[cobalt scroll]

hologram Lotus skin when DE

[uncut solar]

When she dies

[civic ore]

you know, I am surprised that isnt an option already

[lilac drift]

quick qestion can you date both a member of the hex and the triad or do you have to pick one?

[cobalt scroll]

we have Scarred Margulis skin, but the hair is match with her clothing color so it looks really cursed

[civic ore]

yeah I saw

[solid otter]

Both, albeit theres consent chats that SUCK

[lofty girder]

Don't her teeth too?

[cobalt scroll]

yep

and the mouth not moving too

[lilac drift]

aight thanks

[cobalt scroll]

and her voice is robotic too

[solid otter]

Yeah btw the hair is completely different to the other Margulis model, at least that side part thing

[pure merlin]

If the hotfix comes today, Reb said that the Devil's Triad protoframes skins will not be stoic anymore and have actually normal face movement
Maybe it will fix the Margulis skin too

[solid otter]

I just want them to fix the kimchats

[cerulean kiln]

You mean by the pool?

[pure merlin]

By the pool?

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

You can visit her in Sanctum

[pure merlin]

I don't know? Some people said the skin is bugged, I don't know where those issues occur, I'm just assuming if they fix the DT's appearances issues, maybe the Margulis skin might be fixed aswell

[cerulean kiln]

I’d assume it’d fix all skins as she’s a statue in Sanctum

[pure merlin]

Well, she can't exactly blink and close her eyes like with her other skins 👀

So she's just, standing there, not looking

[tight pagoda]

The skin itself is also bugged

Has terrible lip sync

[civic ore]

too bad a slap to the face cant fix it lol

[cobalt scroll]

no this
https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1448996694934028358

[civic ore]

some five nights at freddies looking pic right there

[uncut solar]

We're making children possess robots either way

[civic ore]

true

[rancid pilot]

One could also argue Lotus is a "purple guy"

[civic ore]

O....m....g lol

[undone lodge]

The Bite Of Old War

[pure merlin]

The sentient behind the slaughter

[lofty girder]

Equally convoluted timeline

[uncut solar]

waiting for Freddy Fazbear Prime

[undone lodge]

Ballpit meatpit time travel

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bite-of-87-was-that-the-bite-of-87-fnaf-markiplier-gif-4088330124955617216

was that the night of the naga drums

[pure merlin]

Five nights at Ballas

But you're the animatronic

[deft mist]

Thats honestly not bad

I thought that convo was bittersweet

[waxen sphinx]

I know was just joking about it lol

[deft mist]

I know trust me i went shit when i saw it

[waxen sphinx]

It was a pretty deep convo though with his connection with Rell

[deft mist]

It was

And interesting the whole hivemind of the harrow batch warframes

[rain otter]

The worst part of this was this wasn't what he said. He had played the game that bad the bite of 87 already.

But anyway.

[uncut solar]

I'm not very proficient in fnaf lore

I was too old when it was happening probably

[tame canopy]

I just ranked 5 fortuna, and she just opened her chest and revealed her head lol

[uncut solar]

Talk to everyone there

You'll see lots of new... Faces

[tame canopy]

LMAO it's just like rank 5 zariman, they got new dialogue and appearances

[rancid pilot]

That was so freaky, i love it when DE does some really interesting design choices

[rancid pilot]

They definitely look different

[tame canopy]

What the hell even is the rational with this sort of prosthetics?

Like why even keep the head at this point 💀

[rancid pilot]

Only the Ostrins don't get any changes I think? Family get new names, and call us ||Ayatan||, we can colour the Cavia, Holdfast look completely human and Fortuna show their heads

[lofty girder]

Brain shelving isn't a euphemism, its literal

[uncut solar]

Chipper actually talks about it

[rancid pilot]

The idea is that the personhood is limited to the head, hence it's the only part of them that's biological

[uncut solar]

Chipper says that it's protection and he "misses the scars"

[lofty girder]

Don't pay your debts and Nef's repo squads will take your body, put your head in a jar, and give your corpse to someone else to pilot

[rancid pilot]

The other body parts, and organs are modified or changed out to make them more efficient workers, no need for a body suit and gasmask if you have nothing to protect besides the head

[uncut solar]

Yeah, and the rest is sold off

For what though

[tame canopy]

oh hey now we're getting this lol

[lofty girder]

Nef's luxurious Solaris Foie Gras

[rancid pilot]

Could be anything, body replacements, cloning stuff in universe isn't perfect so organ transplants for those who can afford it

[tame canopy]

Not that I mind, but now it's cracking me up that from now on I'm getting this eerie shot of eudico's real head in her chest for bounties

This does means I can now take on profit taker, exploiter, and get archgun deployer

[uncut solar]

Now any other solaris worker that isn't a part of the syndicate will also do that

You just need to level up their own syndicate

Chipper and Nightcap

[tame canopy]

and lil duck too, it seems

[uncut solar]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-little-duck-solaris-gif-21084918

[rancid pilot]

Is there lore and Little duck and how she seems relatively more biological than the other Solaris

[lofty girder]

She's a sneaky gal? So less prosthetics means easier disguises?

[thick jolt]

Debt

[thick jolt]

Formerly the business' protege, now is a sneaky smugler/mercenary, currently working with the quills

[rancid pilot]

Did she like not have as much debt so got to keep most of her limbs?

[thick jolt]

So for the augments my best guess is business protected her and eventually she just wasnt within taxmen reach

Business is hinted as having a turbulent past so he definetely should have the connections

[pure merlin]

Is her real head also in her stomach?

[thick jolt]

Yep

[pure merlin]

Traumatizing

[thick jolt]

All solaris are readied for that since childhood

If you look closely all ventkids are literally and unironically neckless

[pure merlin]

Oh my god you're right

Reaching rank 5 with the Solaris is honestly the most traumatizing thing in Warframe

[thick jolt]

They were not messing about with thursby being kidnapped and repossessed during the intro quest

They literally had to mount him on moa legs because they repossessed his arms and legs

[pure merlin]

It's genuinely horrible

I've always wondered how they manage to live like this

[uncut solar]

They don't really need much sustenance like this so they just work and work and work

[thick jolt]

The first food decoration we got in game was from the solaris ironically enough

DE only added food decorations to cetus much later

So we got food paste and food canisters from the solaris first

[pure merlin]

I mostly meant like, they don't seem tooooo unhappy, but I would assume living like this, being almost entirely a robot, and working all the time. It sounds miserable

[thick jolt]

It's that or brain shelving

[pure merlin]

Brain shelving ? 👀

[thick jolt]

What happens when you cant pay the debt

Or the interest anyway because the whole colony is designed around keeping you in debt

Cant pay? dont have any organs anymore? You get brain shelved until someone pays it

Ticker did it for her partner

Tho she mentions they stayed shelved for so long they lost who they were

[pure merlin]

So like, they remove the brain or something ?

[uncut solar]

Yeah they quite literally put the brain on the shelf

And it'll be stored until paid off

It's full sensory deprivation to the point people pulled out of it might just become empty shells of their former selves

[pure merlin]

That's insane

And Ticker's a chick? Thought it was a dude ?

[rancid pilot]

"Once you've been to Fortuna, you'll never stop wanting to beat Nef Anyo to death with your bare hands"

[uncut solar]

She is canonically trans, unable to transition properly due to immense debt

[pure merlin]

Learning more and more everyday

[balmy storm]

Ticker 🥺

[pure merlin]

Is there any like, "head" of faction that isn't a complete piece of shit ?
No because, Nef Anyo, Alad V, the Queens, Albrecht, the Executors all these people kind of deserve the death penalty, or worse

[rancid pilot]

Parvos, but that's a BIG maybe

[solid otter]

Albrecht isnt a complete piece of shit

[balmy storm]

No
He
He sucks a ton too

[solid otter]

Parvos is literally a worse Nef

[uncut solar]

Parvos won't even bother with buying things out

[pure merlin]

I forgot to add him to my list but i'm sure Parvos deserves worse than death

[solid otter]

The entrati family are fine

As fine as an orokin family could be

[rancid pilot]

Doesn't Parvos at least offer Solaris United and the Tenno a position by him

[balmy storm]

Konzu?
Quinn…?
Uh. Fibonacci?
Arthur

These are all allies but they are technically sorta heads of factions

[uncut solar]

Kahl

🫡

[pure merlin]

I mean, true

[balmy storm]

The ones we’re chill with are the ones that don’t suck

[pure merlin]

But I meant more like, big big leader of a faction, I would consider Arthur to be more like, the leader of his team, Fibo to be in charge alongside Loid of the sanctum

[solid otter]

Loid of the sanctum

Sounds like a fantasy name

I need to draw loid as a tiefling

Hes just not an elf that mf is a tiefling

[rancid pilot]

Hunhow was a leader of the sentient faction in the system, and he's mellowed out so probably Hunhow

[pure merlin]

True, true

That's not a lot of "good" leaders lol

[solid otter]

-# out of the list Albrecht is literally the least worst there

Damn

Father trying to protect his family from the horror he created

Evil

[cerulean kiln]

Albrecht a good guy? Impossible

[solid otter]

He aint a good guy but every time I see someone say he's on the same level as an executor, I will literally fight them

I get so violent over his mischaracterisation

[pure merlin]

No amount of redemption will ever make Albrecht even close to being a "good" guy

[solid otter]

Id say he's a lot better than the folk on that list

[cerulean kiln]

It’s weird when people try calling him at all a good guy when his books literally have him admitting to being a demon and turning people into frames

[solid otter]

Self awareness, he did warn the new protos about what it was to do

[pure merlin]

Didn't he work with Ballas too to create Protea ? Or was it someone else ?

[solid otter]

No that was parvos lol

Theres a high chance Albrecht stole shit from Ballas

[cerulean kiln]

Do you think the Orokin saw themselves as bad people?

I’ve heard bad people generally don’t even see themselves as bad

[solid otter]

Most didn't, no, but it wasn't from genuine maliciousness

[solid otter]

Eh, theres being willingly bad and being ignorant of what could be bad

Bad people know that they are doing the wrong thing

[cerulean kiln]

There is the fact Albrecht said Orokin became numb

[solid otter]

So does Roathe

Orokin born into the society don't know what they're doing is bad

[cerulean kiln]

Ballas was the good guy to Ballas

Watch the next main villain of Warframe be Nitohk

[steep totem]

If that happens, I sincerely hope she has a Garuda bodyguard

[cerulean kiln]

Garuda lore

[steep totem]

Exactly

Plus, an Executor with the title "Blood Queen" makes me think she either inspired Garuda or directly commissioned her

It just makes sense

[gray dagger]

Sorry to derail the current topic, but is anyone else stuck at Best Friends with the Triad despite dating one of them?

[lavish sundial]

As a Rhino player if she is the next big bad you know I I’m putting Wally’s smile to shame

[worn fjord]

The only thing I don’t like about Entrati was what happened to Cavia (Entrati was horrified about it after though) and then this Lettie convo about what he did.

Apart from that, the moment I read more of Entrati’s notes, it gave more insight to him as a character. So he’s not as bad as an executor like some claim but, yea seeing his thought process in those notes helped in understanding him in a way. It humanized him

[solid otter]

I will give Albrecht the benefit of the doubt, there is a whole chance he did not know about the silent carrier shit, thats not really something you can pick up on without a lot of testing, which as far as I know, he only really did on dead bodies. "Hospital full of cadavers" is what Amir says in the comic iirc

Also on Albrecht being horrified on what he did to the cavia, I still think he went to off himself and landed in duviri

[worn fjord]

I wish he did more testing but alas

[worn fjord]

Is that how and why he landed in Duviri? Huh…kinda makes sense in hindsight

I just remember him talking about Euleria a lot in Duviri

[solid otter]

I mean considering it kinda goes

I must atone for my sins with my own blood

Immediately into duviri

It doesn't look the best 😭

Something something we end as we began

[worn fjord]

Oh..

[solid otter]

Reborn from the void, he will die in the void, yk?

[solid otter]

Also! Grandmother mentions after the reunion ||that Albrecht gave out tablets that he was going to let himself die, though this could reference his discontinued use of kuva, it would line up with the idea of him trying to off himself||

So.

Thats a thing i guess

[worn fjord]

Yea I thought it was related to the Kuva stuff too but it lines up with the other theory

[solid otter]

Lowkey writing it into fanfic bcs that is such an interesting idea

[worn fjord]

Oh good luck with writing it!

[solid otter]

Im almost finished

Cept its like. Only in passing

Most of that fic is about loid debating if he even deserves basic things

[worn fjord]

Wait omg😭

I need to read it after you’re done

DM it later

[solid otter]

Hehehe. One of my favourite lines is about loid hating on himself for presuming that Euleria ever saw him as a parental figure

Shit man I be devious

[worn fjord]

Why does it feel like something that he would actually think about 😭😭

[worn fjord]

Full of angst it is

[solid otter]

Yeah and questionable content at the end BUT ITS IMPORTANT I SWEAR

Anwyays lore

[undone lodge]

Smaller ones yes, but the major ones no. Hence us constantly fighting them