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damnitdamnitdamnitdamnit
this is the earlier spot that Reap was in, and the convo ends right after
but the text was different, and looped farther back up
why don't we just throw Roathe back into a helminth
so cause something went wrong, mine just ended after that
I kinda need more details from DE about this tbh lol
His character profile says I have also done something to upset him, but its clear I’m moving forward in his redemption
maybe?
i'm trying to figure this out on the fly ngl
that says to me its still bugged in some way
resetting the conversation should be a simple fix
I hope
wonder if I should post the convo I have with him on Reddit, see if I cant get more answers that way
guess many others are in the same spot as me, guess I'll wait for replies and more information and not reset yet
Check your notes for if it tells you there’s just one option it means you have to reset - seems instead of fixing it DE is just passing the buck off to the players and making you redo the whole chat
Also
SpicyBallMeat back with spicy takes
has anyone gotten the roathe has agreed to help flag or the loid cutscene ?
some have
Hi! Been in the same convo and I can assure you there is a way to still redeem him! If you're far enough (spoilers for the next KIM day) ||you can ask lyon and/or marie to help you with roathe if you do it right they will tell you they'll need the help of the other as well, so for me I asked lyon and he said we need Marie's help.|| ||once you've managed to have both triggered a day after that roathe should come at you with "Enough! Enough! Call off your zealots" and if you do that convo right you will get him into redeemed :)||
i dont wanna reset it if its just a bug, but if i did somehow mess up one of his convos i wanna know
you might just be having RoatheFamilyDelay ngl
Yeah looks like it cause my helping with loid text got triggered in my repair text as well it ended with something like "something something entrati family and the butler it will just take some time"
It's funny that I got all the good ending first try playing the Kim without any help from the website
From Hex, Roundtable, and Triad too
Though I did get help for Neci ending
Oh what is that
when roathe delays the whole loid business for xyz reason
such as the rest of the triad not being on board
I see
Although for some reason after dating Roathe his note about helping the family suddenly disappear
On my account btw
So i used to have all the signs I was gonna get good ending with roathe, and now suddenly the game decided I had anathema with him? Like I had best friend status and was waiting for the fix to romance nad now it said I either "upset him or ran out of opportunities to move forward with him" which implies bad ending...
I have both notes
welp hopefully the zealots are gonna pester him until he wants to smooch me
Yeah it's weird since the first note implies that the player has an action to take, while the second note implies that you have to reset
Well tbh not even that
New players wouldn't know what resetting is
I've had the note on the tip even after I initially took him out of anathema by listening to that note
Same
I put up a bug report hours ago, I'll see how that goes I suppose
Oh no he hates me
Let's do a control shock on him
(fnaf sister location reference)
I just need my freaky orokin to talk to me
Regardless, I got what I wanted out the update for the most part (Marie Leroux my beautiful queen)
Bruh
Tyty
60 eyes bossfight?
Yeah
Before hotfix you could do 30 eyes and it count too
ty
But now have to be 60
And you don't need to do solo either, ask a friend if you have one to help
Isnt it harder with a friend
Or is that the tank
For 60 eyes, extra person helps collect eyes faster and revive you. It would be more tanky though
The tank is just healthier, and unlike the 60 eyes, when you need to use RPG to open the gate, it would take longer in coop
There’s a trick to counter these 2 (not Vor, his ability is too stupid to be true), but saying here risk DE fix it
I have to do what now
Chat, I'm just gonna reset this shit. It did not fix after daily reset

The helping family?
That, and I was supposedly dating Roathe but got no kiss scene and his status never displayed to me as "loved"
Like when I went to see him in the sanctum, he would flirt but like that was it 🤷♀️
Did you ask him yet?
Yeah I asked him out on the kim
Also I only got the kiss scene at Monday
I should have already had it, I've waited a week and de nada
That suck
Yeah, but I get to redo it all so it's chill
What if they made a void angel adversary so we can have more incarnons without flooding the circuit loot pool
Sentient first
The sentients aren’t really a threat anymore, hunhow only really is hostile to us to keep up the status quo and narmer is a bug that will be crushed soon
Tau: Are we a joke to you
Yes
I mean, Im all for the plot twist where tau sentients wont be hostile and instead send a big distress signal
because where albrecht goes
wally goes also
and Im sure the sentients wont enjoy a massive void entity at home
Okay so the only sentients we have really fought. In recent times are ones that cane to the system during the old war before the solar rail was destroyed.
So like they really could be some big bads OR they could be allies.
I think we are getting a "new peace" quest when we go to tau but that's just me.
And he's gonna be captured again 
How do I trigger the cutscene with Loyd and family upstairs? Marie, Lyon and Roathe want to help and have maximum relationship, but nothing happens...
Does any of them send their “thank you msg” yet?
I just got Lyon’s this morning, so I have to wait for next reset
Have no idea, was it that "thank msg" or not. But there are no dialogues left in the chat.

Wait for them to fix it or reset the triad
I’m gonna utilize the kimulacrum on my second run, maybe it’ll help
If it’s a bug then we gotta wait regardless
Which I’m sure DE is fixing things as soon as they can, they just got back this week and it’s clearly taking a bit
They’re also ofc working on what’s next (which they likely had a good amount prepared since December)
Ooh yeah they released the loid cutscene already
just to make sure i dont need to reset, this is the good ending/ reunite loid ending right
since the second message doesnt outright say it anymore
he did spoke of defending the family upstairs in his last chat, but with how buggy this has been i want to make sure
the cutscene still doesnt trigger for me
Yeah those are my notes on roathe too after convincing him he can redeem himself
Man...i could technically just watch this but i refuse my hardwork to redeem roathe to go to waste cuz of a stinky bug
But at the same time my xmas break is ending in like 9 days (gonna be in OJT soon)
weird question, does anyone know if its possible to get lyon to rank 6 too fast to convince him to help reunite the family? trying to figure out why my cutscene hasn't triggered and this is my only idea left atp
Parts of the KIM still seems a bit bugged
all of the triad have agreed to me and it isnt triggering
Roathe is being unreasonable for me (in Anathema after all 21 messages) and the notes imply I must reset
Whats your last kim chat with roathe
him saying he will defend the family upstairs
It didnt bug out for you?
Cuz mine did
It changed to the chat if i was unsuccessful in convincing lyon to help with loid and marie about entrati being complicated
Which is wrong cuz i was on the right path for those two
welp ill wait for the next hotfix, i dont want to reset when i did everything right
Kimulacrum is what he started my real last chat with
After the hotfix, this is what it is in-game for me now
especially sonce roathe doesn't appreciate it
yeah, i had the conversation with roathe that seems like its supposed to trigger the failsafe for this but it bugged
conversation looks the same as this in history, which is not how the conversation went when it actually played out
None of the Triad will speak to me and Marie agreed to help reunite the family but it doesn't show on her profile anymore for some reason. So Roathe kept asking me to convince her but- SHE ALREADY AGREED- 😭
And now none of them speak to me so I can't do anything...
Pleaaaaase I want them to be happy-
Is it the one in the chat the day after the argument?
Bcs that. Isnt one that trigger it.
I'm not sure? Lemme check-
because I KNOW I read on her profile that she agreed to help out and then it was gone?
She agrees and speaks of reuniting Loid and the Entratis multiples times, Lyon is on board and so is Roathe, but for some reasons as soon as I convinced Roathe, he told me to convince Marie, which- she already was? but not anymore
saw someone has same issue and its supposed to be fixed by talking to lyon and marie but I have no chats anymore from them xD is it still bugged or did i screw it up xD
I'm not blocked by any of them personally and they all are friendly with me, but none of them will talk to me, so I think it's just a bug and I'm stuck 😔
Mm, that first one doesnt have the trigger for it, im unsure about the second one
DE out here making me wait to give me something real good im sure 🙏
I just hope this gets fixed without us needing to reset because I don't want Roathe to be upset honestly 😔 So i'm gonna wait is all
the poor devs must be going crazy with all the bugs rn
play all KIM conversations does nothing for triad
seems i'll be stuck until DE fixes this
i cba to restart
Thats the thing though I'm not getting anymore convos
Okay are you by chance dating one of the other two? Cause thats what i had done and it allowed me to ask lyon for help as I had them high enough in the chemistry I suppose.
Yeah, Marie
I assume the next day after the roathe convo has happened?
To get help from Marie? No
Okay so when roathe does the whole talk you will need to ask him for time to think (thats how jve done it. And then the next talk he will ask again and you tell him no you wont do it.) Cause it should trigger an option in the next talk to marie that begins with you asking her for help if you done it correct.
I can only talk from my personal experience and for me it worked that way ofc when I say "next talk" it means the daily reset has to pass so give or take roughly 2-3 days realtime for the question to get help. Then another for probably needing lyon as well and then day 5(if my daily reset math is correct?) Roathe will beg you to pull them off him where you can tell him then the correct answer to redeem.
Its been more than 3 days now plus idk if you've seen the image but the convo with Roathe about Descendia had ended abruptly after a point which is where the softlock comes from as there was more to the convo
Okay I see it now yeah i asked him there for time to think on the last bit maybe thats why?
But next day I was blocked and often with the triad you will need to progress further on the other 2 as well to trigger more talks
Im best friends with lyon and dating Marie so I'm not sure what I'm missing unless that earlier convo truly has softlocked ot
The convo isn't meant to end after I say "no, I'm sorry"
Hey so I have this toggled on and still got screwed over 💔 aka me entering a romance with Roathe but the next rank instead of Loved being Best Friends and not getting any more messages from him for 2 days now when I know I’m missing convos with him but still getting messages from Marie and Lyon 😔
As ya’ll know with that toggled on it takes much longer for chemistry with said character to go up (I always have this on because I like to see the all the lore and feel it gives more to the characters since it exhausts every convo before moving on to next rank) so imagine my reaction to finally managing to romance Roathe after weeks and 2 days into dating him I get screwed over with me 100% going to have to reset
💔 Ik Entrati is responsible but I just can’t prove it….
Wtf was the issue with Lettie ? Lmao. Does anyone have screens of those bugged convos ?
Letting the driter rizz themself is crazy 😭
The patch note is full of stuff like that, hilarious af
This game... Oh. The main chat with Roathe is crushed, where I convince him to help Loyd. I make everything, that he agreed, but story of chat decided, that I have ended this chat. That's why I can't see the video about Loyd and Entrati, because Roathe do not want to help. My God, I have no wish to restart...

Have someone the same problem?
What does your note with Roathe says on kim?
We are lovers and I have convinced him to face a truth, nothing about Loyd.
Or it must be like that? I have no idea...
And did you manage to convince Lyon and Marie to help?
And your last conversation with Roathe he just flat out says you didn't do your end of the deal and messed up so he won't help you?
Or send screens of your conversation
He talked about Marie and Lyon, that was the last conversation with him.
I have a choice to speak about only Lyon, only Marie and both/
I have chosen both
You should have more convos after that one, I don't remember him flat out saying he won't help you in that conversation, unless it's specifically written in your notes with him that he won't, but that can still be fixed in the next few convos
When did you have that conversation, today?
Two days earlier
I'm gonna guess you started it saying "How are things going with you and the "zealots" ?"
Are you Best Friends with Marie and Lyon too?
And you're on that status with them ever since that zealots convos too?
Yes
Unless you didn't kill Roathe 21 times, but I'm pretty sure you did that since you got all the way to that convo
Yes, I killed him 21 times
Yeah so might be just a bug then, convos aren't triggering for you
I see
yes it is fixed just go to decendia beat him up few times then he starts speaking again
I did the 21 beat ups do i do couple of more times?
for me it took more than 21 times until he started speaking again so ye
Alrighty time to do this again ;-;
if you lazy just do only the 21 floor it is quicker than from top
Will do ^^ thank you ♥
I killed him over twenty-one times and he's not talking to me anymore
He thanked me for not doing Descendia, so I did. Lyon advised me to do Descendia anyway, which I'd already done. And then Roathe stopped talking to me after sending me a bunch of VM's
Same!
He sent me one VM and then stopped completely
The hotfix triggered one more chat about what the Indifference was, and then nothing else. Then I asked him for his consent to also date Arthur, which was triggered by me asking him to date him. Aaand... that's it. I haven't gotten anything else
Glad to hear I'm not the only one!
Do I just reset?
I've heard that resetting isn't a good idea with Roathe so I don't even know what to do
"There's only one way forward for me now..." TELL ME DRIFTER PLEASE
I just went up to him and asked to date, he said yes
Did he start talking to you?
I was stuck in "best friends" status despite the fact that he stopped talking to me until the hotfix. Then he changed to "close" and still no convos with him
Is there anything else I can do to trigger a convo besides killing him??
same as we are speaking i killed him 50 times (that desperate) definitely a bug xD
Weird situationship where he'll talk to you irl but he blocks you on his phone (Roathe)
Yup he is like "Hello pet" and im like "Bro you blocked my phone don't "pet" me" xD
Give him some time he just got out of an toxic and or abusive relationship with Niktoh
He's gonna be a bit funky
I can fix him 
"Just", as if it hasn't been years ago for him
Yes yes that
To make a necramech you have to do Isolation vault bounties, that you can start by talking to mother, and get some damaged parts that you can repair if I remember correctly to make a necramech, Necraloid sells blueprints, if you need more details I'm pretty sure the wiki tells you what quest you need to do to be able to speak to him. But you need to grind those isolation vaults
Necramechs are weapon platforms built by the Entrati that can be encountered on the ruins of the Cambion Drift, Deimos. They are heavily armored bipedal war machines built during The Old War as a predecessor to Warframes, though they were far less intelligent. The Tenno are capable of accessing these Old War relics using Transference, and can d...
Lore wise, there's a couple of lore videos if you search on youtube, but you're most likely going to be spoiled parts of the main quests, since the family is related to another character, any video talking about "Entrati" or "Deimos Family" or stuff like that would give you a bit more context about who they are. Talking to them also and ranking up with them you get a bit more lore
"A or B?"
"Yes"
Sorry I’m just grinding I’m tired😭 I meant the lore behind necramech
They're very old old war weapons, precursors to warframes, immune to the sentient ability to control tech
Go to sleep or I’ll throw a weaponised yes at you
Which option sounds like it'll help me rizz her up
And the skulls were they the operators?
Nah that's just entrati aesthetic
Necramechs were made before Tenno were even a thing
Mxm that hyped me up thinking they strapped old dying bodies up to those mechs to repurpose them for war 😭😭
Oh dw, warframes are kinda like that
That’s crazy actually not that bad
But yeah mechs just have skulls bc the entrati family are very morbid
Forget morbid I’m surprised they didn’t kill each other
They tried
Okay ty
really? sounds kinda passive aggressive to me
Deimos had burial vaults with skulls they studied
Yuck
I mean I assume you just know but idk, I mean the wheelchair thing isn't much better
Thats. Kinda how i build up that relationship
One option sounds rough but the other sounds terrible too
hm
I haven't really played all that much recently, meaning I haven't engaged much with kim outside of release, so I haven't really gotten the vibe for the new stuff
Have you been to deimos?
I mean, i forgot the context of that conversation but why would you bring up a Wheelchair when conversating to a woman who has no feet. Just flies
Guess
the 1999 stuff seemed like fairly clean for the most part, but if stuff like this is just normal, it feels... weird? then again, we are rizzing an actual nun, so maybe I shouldn't expect things to just be normal
(Marie has stated she is the lowest fan of having no feet to stand on)
Yeah no problem. I think i could rizz up all these 3 if i wanted to 
Yes I did the heart mission that’s y I asked about the necramech lol I’m so underlevelled it’s crazy
Im only going for marie for now, but Lyons chill ill definitely get to friends with him
Remember how father only has one arm?
well one of the options is calling her out on having no friends, the other option is at least like sympathizing with that, both feel really strange to actually say to someone in this context, but idk if I'd say below is much better lmao
Ahhh don’t tell me they amputated him lol
Daughter cut it off
They're very much morbid.
And they did
Its hard to pick lol
And mother also attacked him once
Wild asf I’m surprised their son is still alive tho bro is sad
Mother tried to kill father
That crazy I wanna be like him
Father or son?
He's surprisingly one of the two best among them
But its like. Your multiple question answers in class. All of them sound wrong so just pick the best your brain tells you to
Father is a close third but he was a weapons manufacturer sooo
He was also a soldier!
And way too into cutting open stuff
Grandmother also comes from that same family 😭
If the theory behind Father's last name is true, she would be involved somehow
She's not stated to have made weapons
Doesnt need to make em to enable them
Daughter has most definitely said "void lugger" before, probably still does
Unlikely
She said vat rat to kahl
She very much could if she knew of the term
😭 Daughter is a gamer confirmed
Vat rat is somehow not too bad I think
She has headphones on 24/7
Listens to onlyne...
If Daughter existed now should be a boyband stan E-girl
Looking at the backrooms, and knowing it was identical to how Albrecht left it, that makes sense
Albrecht has so many onlyne cassettes
Theres mucking Pizza crusts in that room.
In a mug.
Albrecht did presumably have to make do with the same supplies as the hex for a while
I wonder if it's cause the pizza was there before the start of the loop, so everytime we loop, it appears again
HE DOESNT EAT PIZZA CRUSTS.
THERES SOUR SWEETS ON THAT DESK.
He really wasn't thoughtful, could have cleaned the place up before letting us use it
Orokin are essentially nobles, obv they wouldn't eat the most flavorless part
Even though the crust on a good pizza is the best part
The only justification for it is if Albrecht fed Kalymos the crusts
Didn't have time to
It's often not, but I appreciate pizza places that do flavor the crust
I don't
Hi, I'm german, my kind is obsessed with bread of any kind. Pizza dough counts
Now I want a pizza...
I understand the crust is meant to be something that kinda gives you a break from all the cheese and sauce but I at least want some garlic butter on it
I just like the flavor of pure crust
Then again I did grow up eating mostly that crunchy dry bread that's originally for ships so
I would be obsessed with bread too if it was as good as European bread
I'm weird
I can't remember if it has an english name rn
Hardtack?
Sounds right
Brother.
Isn't that supposed to be soaked to be edible?
Yeah hardtack is tough as nails to eat
I know it as like, knäckebrot("crunchy" bread) and zwieback(literally meaning double-baked)
Scrap ate tank armour lol
What pizza you guys think Albrecht ordered
You have to beat it in your ration bag or otherwise soak it in fats and stuff to make it edible
He'd order anchovies just to make everyone rally together to hate him
Meatlovers. For... reasons
-# its my favourite flavour
I've never had that, so I can't say. is it bad?
I feel like he'd be the kind of monster that likes hawaiian
Hawaiian's not that bad though, it's just a meme to hate on it
They're fish. Fish on bread.
I like pineapple on pizza.
I tried it, it's just wrong
The bread might be too much sometimes and the pineapple lessens that
Sweet flavors do not belong on pizza
I like it but it's a really strong salty flavor. There should frankly be no more than 1-2 pieces of it on a slice but a lot of places will just pile it on and so it makes it unbearable.
He feeds it to kalymos dw
Yk I was gonna wonder if that was healthy, but kavats eat infestation
See people say Koreans make weird Pizza (we do) but is sweet potato any weirder than fish?
No, honestly I think that goes hard
One local pizza place absolutely soaks the pizza in grease or smth so I think any weaker flavors probably get disassembled
I see the vision. That is definitely still weird but I see it
Do not eat ducky
I tried sweet potato once, it was kinda whelming
Dw i wont
Yeah its pretty whelming
Rub roh ralbrecht it's ragfer
-# im sorry
Ragfer, lost twin of tagfer, is typing
If i wanted help regarding Devil's Triad KIM, should i ask here or in https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1197322290166251680
Here works
I like most of the "normal" toppings, minus olive.
Kimulacrum
Ew olives.
My brain fried for a moment when i first saw him, I had that name since around 2012 if not earlier
Ok...what do I do now?
Wait for additional hotfixes?
Out of the admittedly few pizza toppings I tried I've only liked uh... two that I forgot the english name of
Mm. Probably man
It was meant to be, you're gonna protoframe with Tagfer in the future like Lyon and Harrow /s
What do they look like?
If you did all 21 Descendia fights and you're still stuck, yeah sounds like you're boned.
Salami and MUSHROOM
SHROOM
Mushroom I haven't had
S H R O O M
I was making a drg reference
Good purchase or not?
Damn
I mean, if it was for like 2p that's great
Atlas is great but I wouldn't spend plat for him
Is Atlas vaulted? If so, yeah just ok purchase
Remember to get his signature tekko with <20% base status so you get 4% more base status
So the thing is, i am a sucker for happy endings. That what I was going for with the Hex and that's what i did with the Round Table but when it comes to Devil's Triad it's way too complex. To start with after all this time I am still unsure what the 'happy ending' for them should be. After reading things at Kimulacrum I was annoyed and confused (the spider web of communication there is a nightmare) then i looked online, and there was even more information that made me even more confused about the topic. So i ask here - Is there like a tutorial for happy ending for the Devil's Triad? If no, at least a checklist of what i have to do (and what not to do) would be appreciated.
TL;DR Devil's Triad KIM too complex and complicated to be enjoyable need help.
The signature buff for tekko is ridiculously useless
Kimulacrum
That's really the simplest option
There is a happy ending, Kimularcum is your friend, just use the flowcharts and ctrl + f to find where you are in a convo
Frankly I think Kimulacrum being that hard to navigate really shows how much you're not meant to be metagaming like that. Given that Roathe knows that you reset, it's very much intended that you screw up at least once given the massive tangle of things going on in the convos and the information you learn from doing the first go around.
After that I'd use Kimulacrum and find "RoatheForgivenessShortcut" to get the "good" ending.
Yeah ... If that's the only way, then I guess I am just going to ignore this needlessly complex mess, wait couple of months for the tutorial just to never touch it again. I wanted to read a good story, not go though weeks of trying just to get the good ending, since from what I understand, if you mess something up you have to wait couple of weeks for the Hex year reset just to have another go
I'll just assume you already passed Rank3Convo1, which then you missed the chance to do RoatheForgivenessShortcut
Not sure, let me check (gotta boot up the game), but i think i am rank 2 atm
Which convo that in?
...Rank3Convo1.
It's early in the morning here forgive me
You can't fail after you get the shortcut as far as I can see
Rank 2 atm, i checked the option "Play all KIM Conversations" to stall for time (for the guide) but funny thing is, i still don't know if this "run" is cooked or nor since i don't remember which booleans i have and which i don't
Doing it "normally" just involves you picking stuff that increases temperature for the redemption ending or decreases it for the villain ending.
All the other flags are just kinda fluff that checks to see if you did Descendia 21 times and if you've reset previously, which will change which chunk of the branch in a convo you get.
So rather than looking through the entire convos without knowing what flags you hit, I'd wait until you get a line from a convo to figure out where you are in the branch then use Kimulacrum to gleam through.
A lot of them loop back through each other anyway
You haven't done anything important in the conversations yet
Hi
In that case could you please tell me the things i need to get the happy ending for all of them? Like a short version for me to know what to look for? Because frankly speaking if i don't get the happy ending now i don't think i will ever have the mental capacity to replay those things
For all of them idk because I think Marie is simple as hell, just don't insult her intelligence and make sure she figures out Albrecht isn't such a nice guy. Dunno about Lyon.
Roathe's the hardest one to figure out naturally I'd say but just look up "RoatheRedeemptionShortcut" for Rank3Convo1 and that's the easy mode. You can't screw it up from there afaik.
Marie is only hard if you don't pay attention tbh
Or, if you do the dumb thing and agree with her to romance her.
-# even though you can't
From personal experience
Roathe is very much in denial, so he doesn't even consider forgiving himself, at the same time, you shouldn't just excuse him, he needs to both deal with what he has done but also realize that he isn't beyond forgiveness
Marie has a romance deadend route?
Wait what?
So I had all my chats to where they'd agreed for loid to go up the stairs now it's all gone should I just restart the spiral?
Everyone is best friends and Lyon loved
She is built for people who do that, agree with her about Albrecht on everything, to fail.
And I redeemed Roathe
Mhm. If you agree with her past a certain point, you can't romance her.
There's an option if you agree that Albrecht is good that basically amounts to "Yeah the only reason I agree with you on Albrecht is because I find you hot."
Idk how they managed to do that, but they did and i love it.
You still can agree with her and still date her, just... don't pick that option.
It's that simple.
Oh, no past a certain point its a failstate iirc
Oh this one.
I that case a question, can i reach the ending where
- Marie realises Albreht is not the good guy she things he is, and she agrees to help Loid reunite with the family
- Roathe get's the redemption arc and also agrees to help Loid
- Lyon (i think wiki said he has some past demons he needs to face) and agree to help Loid with the reunion
I think that's the happy ending to my understanding. Is it possible then for me to romance Marie?
I love that she's written to do that
Yup!
MARIEWHOOPS, beautiful boolean name
It's easier to date her if you don't agree on Albrecht from what I know.
Good ending is not agreeing with her about Albrecht, but acknowledging that he isnt a a saint, but nor is he literally the devil from the bibble
Shit. They actually forgave Roathe so maybe he could be
Even if you do agree with her she has a "wait a minute" moment when you say out loud "Oh yeah him killing innocent people is totally worth it, yeah!"
Did he kill people? Yeah I guess he did but like. The nuke was gonna happen anyways.......
Well, she can have a wait a minute moment
You fail if you go the "ultimate good" route
Or confess, of course
Such a dumb spot to confess, many people fell for it.
Basically
If you disagree on Albrecht, don't talk down to her and stick to trying to show her he's far more complex.
If you agree on Albrecht, don't agree with her to the point that it makes Albrecht out as objectively good, and don't confess.
So the good thing is, that "my" version of happy ending can be achieved. The bad thing is that i now have to study the Kimulacrum for the route. Also, is the romance done the same way like with Hex? Get the high enough affinity and the directly ask her about it (in Le Cathedrale) or is it through KIM?
shee freeky and best
For Roathe it's really just as simple as the Rank3Convo1 convo and ONLY THAT because then you just ignore the temperature entirely, assuming you're not doing it naturally. Marie is simple if you just stick to a single opinion about Albrecht without the Kim studying.
Idk about the romancing stuff.
To be fair to the system itself, you're given a LOT of opportunities to recover the situation if you don't get it the first time, assuming you don't UltimateFail by picking the absolutely stupid options.
Trust your gut, if an option seems like you're babying Roathe or being harsh for no reason, than it probably is and not good
Let's just hope for the best. Thank You for all the help and info
watching some Jade Shadows playthroughs, and I found a streamer who outright refused to jump, double jump, bullet jump, or roll during the escape section
she even managed to stay on the elevator the entire time
there's the convo with Roathe where you say Descendia is super hard and you keep dying, the boolean name you can get in it is 'Roathstrugglebus'
I love this game
I told him I didn't believe he'd ever give up power if he had it. He just gave me "quiet, you" red text and moved on. Love that man. He can take a wee jab, just don't be insulting 
Anyone found a way to get Loid unstuck in vault bounties ?
That’s hilarious 
nova is the most common solution
Nothing else ? I don't like Nova much
Loki
Your other option is Loki and that's less useful
Dunno if valkyr works still
Guys have they fixed the Roathe romance bugs yet, should I reset since for me it’s def bugged, is it not fixed yet? What do I do I’m so lost rn 😔
Are we missing any kit stuff at this point
We have anps/guns/melee/companions
I think kitframes are a bit unrealistic
They scrapped modular Archwing
Really the only thing besides Warframe left to be modular
I should be good to go on roathes repair as both lyon and Marie have agreed to help
Did the team do another hotfix? (not seeing notes) I logged in just now and got the reunion + chat w/ marie about otak.
I checked after reset last night and didn't have anything new, so welcome surprise.
I had to update my game several hours ago (5+) so maybe?
Right so I think I gotta reset sadly, it’s been 3 days since I entered best friend status with Roathe (even tho I’m romancing him) and in these 3 days not a single message from him regarding Loyd or literally anything 💔
Sorry if stupid question how does one reset things?
Well they had to have done something, cuz after reset last night (AFTER hotfix), I had 0 messages as well, but suddenly it's working.
Luckyyyy still blocked by Roathe and nothing for me 😭
I think I'd keep waiting on the team then, tbh, cuz I literally have done nothing on my end that would have fixed this
but suddenly it's all good
I guess I'll have to wait patiently im not patient xD
aside from the romance lines for their gemini skins not working, I'm no longer bugged (unless there's yet more side convos to be had, think I've had them all?)
Go on POM PC, on the icons at the bottom there's a grimoire, that's where you reset
You got lucky, I got none and it’s been 3 days 💔 idk if at this point I’ll reset everything with the Devil Triad because I don’t wanna spend weeks doing this again trying romance him only for it to once again not work 😭💔
Thank you ♥
Not stupid at all! Idk which button it is for you since you’re on pc but in the computer I click L3 and it opens a sort of grimoire that lets you chose who to reset the relationships with
I didn't even notice grimoire's existance haahha xD
That was added with the Old Peace update
I didn’t either dw I just clicked it cause I was curious 😭
this saddens this wizard
Before it was the reset prompt every now and then
I noticed the orb the wizard will forgive me xD
lol
My main question is, does anyone know if they already got to fixing Roathe’s romance? In my case I started dating him for 2 days and after that his rank went up from Close to Best Friend aka “me and Roathe are bestfriends now, who would have ever thought that possible” and that’s all there is, which also should have went to Loved so that’s another one.. and ever since then I haven’t gotten any message from him which I def should be getting cause we haven’t even spoken abt Loyd going upstairs or had any talks in that rank, at this point should I reset or just keep waiting guys?
What's the last convo that you've gotten from Roathe ?
Did you ever confess to him through Kim and gotten the note that says he would begin a romance with you if you asked ?
And did you start dating him by asking him at the Cathédrale and then it disappeared, even the option to breakup?
Yes I got the note that said he would begin a romance with him if I asked, I asked him through Kim, we started dating, even the other members had convos commenting on it, I also have the option to break up with him when I go speak to him, I have no option to kiss him and never had, at least yet, the last convo I had with him was “Have you though any more about our talk about the Indifference?” after that convo his rank moved up but went to Best Friends instead of Loved, he still speaks to me with romance lines and I have the option to break up, no asking him at the Cathedrale nor did it disappear (it was never there to begin with) cause I didn’t ask him through there also
Sounds like a bug to me
I'd bug report it and hold tight.
Sounds like a bunch of the Close ranked convo didn't trigger and somehow skipped your RoatheDating aswell, so you're not getting the next convos on max rank
^
Which the team should be able to fix, your issue is definitely a known bug, seen it on the forums.
Alright I’ll try doing that and wait a bit more, if nothing happens still I’ll reset ig 😭
Totally understand the frustration, but resetting may not fix it.
Thing is I even had the “Do all Kim conversations before moving on to next rank” and still got screwed 😭💔
Hence us suggesting to wait
Honestly they might update the game a couple time this month, seeing how many people have been having issues with the Triad and softlocked stuff
Tyy then I’ll send a ticket 🙏🏻🥹
It's definitely a bug not everyone is getting, but some people reported it
Roathe's just playing hard to get
I'd also check forums for some similar reports and add your experience to one, or make a new thread.
The more info the team has, the better.
There’s a difference between playing hard to get and ghosting 😭 either this mf starts speaking again or im using his damn tail for heinous purposes
Watch out because he does say the tail has a mind of its own 👀
please I just spoke to the man and he said that exact line lmao
Lmao
I’m not speaking romantically, I mean actually heinous stuff like putting it in a blender and turning it on
Roathe torture
Who wants a suspicious looking blue smoothie
Poor guy became schizophrenic, forgot to put his pants on, and now people are threatening to turn him into a smoothie
OH MAN yeah they need to fix the missing loincloth, and loid's glasses were both on his face but also floating at his feet in the scene
Yeah I thought about that one too
..I should bug report that, one sec
Loid's glasses are sentient
I was gonna send a ticket and checked out how to submit a bug report and this thing is giving me a pc tutorial, I’m on PS I cannot do that 😭💔
You need to do it on the warframe support page, pretty sure you got an option to put which platform you're on in the ticket
Hopefully I sent the website in english lol, otherwise you just search "warframe support"
You did Ty!
Gonna check it out tysm btw
Could just add your experience to it vs making a new thread, if you like! no problem
This is LITERALLY it im gonna smooch you, def gonna add my experience
Another day, another bug
And hope they get to it quick when they can because it’s been so difficult dodging spoilers of Roathe’s romance scene and Loid going upstairs

Luckily for you there isn't tooooo many videos yet of Roathe and Loid's cutscene so it's easily avoidable, for now
I saw someone here with the pfp of said scene, I forced it out of my mind
scene is extra funny with the bug rn
Next warframe bugframe confirmed, all of this can't be a coincidence
Gonna imagine he does a backflip
loids glasses being where they were too, betting it's a placeholder asset to mark his starting point (..or just a quirk of the game engine), either way, made me laugh
now if they'll figure out why romance lines for the skins arent working, ill be a happy camper
It's crazy hilarious when you don't expect it. And then the man himself pissed off half naked
his POSE too, extra hilarity, like man, I romanced you, you dont gotta display like that 
Can't wait for the patch note saying "Fixed Roathe flashing everyone in a specific cutscene"
HAH
Still waiting on that Lettie rizz convos too
When and where ?
I forget, one of travis teaspoons videos is from a prime time(?) where they mention hotfixing his lack of loincloth..AFTER taking screenshots 🤣
I think the game engine acts weird with physic items sometimes, the loincloth/other items have acted weird before
make for fun red text
It's so weird too that it does that with the cloth, but so far the tail's been relatively fine
I'd have expected the tail to be the biggest issue
I think it would have a similar problem if it wasn't..scripted? sculpted? - if you look at him, the tail only has set movements, it doesnt float freely. like it's held with an invisible string
the loincloth is just a free flowing piece, no weight attached, since its cloth, so it can go..all over the place
Yeah the cloth has physics attached to it while the tail has set animations
If you rewatch the Roses of the Abyss scene, you'll see how deliberate those tail animations are
DE probably knew letting the tail be free would have consequences 
(Major Spoiler Alert) If you have not completed The Old Peace, The New War or The Second Dream, consider avoiding this video. This story sequence is one of my favourites from The Old Peace quest. It was very impactful especially with the music and visuals. In my opinion, the game really highlights the 'power fantasy' part best when it's portraye...
Watch the tail— it's "conducting" the music
Yeah isn't the tail synced to the music
Never noticed that, really cool
Imo best warframe introduction made so far, can't watch that scene enough
I'm stuck in this too, and I'm about to freak out
omg i'm not alone
come here bro we'll get through this together
just posted my experience in said forum thread and it i can't find it there... pls tell me it actually sent the message cause i took such a long time writing this 💔
it's acting like i never wrote anything so i might jump out a window, i think im done with bugs for today 💔
nvm I clicked post and it acted like it posted but there was nothing there and when I clicked again to reply to it the content got restored thank god
marie just doesnt have any notes at that point, you're ok
Yes! I wrote it and clicked post and nothing appeared and when I checked my account it confirmed I had no posts there, I was about to write it again but a shorter version because I couldn't be bothered after the huge text I wrote and when I clicked to reply again the content got restored! Thx for checking it out too btw
....for now
dun dun dun
heh, yeah
i was just checking cause i had to tear her a new one about entrati
I mean, depends what you picked there, but yes her not having notes at Close rank is 'normal' for now (unless DE changes that later)
YOO i was abt to legit stop caring abt her after that convo, had to hit her with the "Roathe would be so proud of you" because at that point i didn't care anymore 
i told her where in sol's doctrine does it say its okay to hurt innocents
i decided not to because i told her i don't believe in said gods, knowing her she'd probably say i was using religion when it suited me or something
Aka "Entrati's not a good person Marie" "oh but if you tried to understand at least from this pov" "ok i suppose i think you're right in some aspects" "how quick you change your mind." I messed up with Marie and any hope of romance is out the window unless Lyon or Roathe help me... (not that i cared because i didn't wanna romance her but still JESUS)
i stood firm in how i viewed entrati i don't hate him but he isn't a saint
she essentially told me not to speak about things i didn't understand then she panicked and said we're done talking
I was so calm with her until she started pulling out the "They MUST forgive him" Marie are we fr
but no notes saying that i did something to horribly offend her
so thats good bc ik how getting locked out of her romance looks like already i was drunk and had to reset it
hey guys i just "finished" roathe's dialogues for the first time, got to the close relationship, did 21 runs of descendia, he asks me to reset. Do i reset and continue his story? or did i do something wrong to not get him a happy ending?
idk about roathe i haven't interacted like that with him i've always aired on the side of caution with him
*erred
i have too, its just that when you reach 21 hellruns and get close to him ||he asks you reset him because the memories make him feel terrible. he does mention that he does it not just because we want to see loid reconcile with the entrati's, but also because we are friends. still feel like i did something wrong to get him like this||
This is where hell broke lose for me cause he doesn’t GOTTA do anything, it’s between Tagfer and what he suffered at Entrati’s hand, you can’t force someone to forgive the abuse of another person just because they treated you well what the hell are you saying Marie, that’s like Person A being the victim of domestic abuse in a relationship and Person B which was someone from outside the relationship says Person A must find it in their heart to forgive the abuser because he never did any of that to said Person B cause they were nice to them and liked them, Marie are you in your right mind????😭😭😭 babe please listen to what nonsense you're spouting out right now 💔
Don't reset unless you've gotten an actual failure. What should happen is he should get an option to redeem or villain depending on if you increased or decreased a hidden "temperature" stat. If you don't, he'll mention he's unsure of how he wants to proceed. If that happens, you'd get a convo from Lyon then Marie about fixing the issue, then you get a second chance to get one of the endings.
so uh
the Loid United scene is not appearing for me even after daily reset
at least she apologized and admitted she was angry at the moment and after calming down realised what she said but jesus christ that convo was on fire 
Context: I have reached 'Best Friend' with all of the Triad and all three of their profiles say that they’re willing to help me reunite Loid with the Entrati
Question: When do I reunite Loid with the Entrati? Do I need to run out of conversations?
the KIM messenger told me paraphrased that i hit a dead and and "theres only one thing i could do now"
same question
Did Loid message you?
nope
Send a ticket, probably bug
Hey, so why is Marie calling me a liar because I told her I trusted entrati? I'm so confused?
That would be in reference to doing the Descendia runs, so unless it unbreaks when you talk to Lyon then Marie, it's bugged.
Temple babe does it show in the pic a message from Loid 🤣😭
You either flip-flopped your opinion on Entrati or admitted you only liked him to get with her.
But I didn't
Technically for the cutscene it has to go : Loid messages you, you go to the Necralisk, cutscene
If no message = probably bug
The early confession trap got another one
it wasnt that message, i had it before where it stated ive hit an impasse, this one was different
Maybe they could have opened it already 👀 who knows 👀
I admited I liked her after i told her i believed in Entrati
Question: Do you also have 'Play All KIM Conversations' toggled to True?
I'm so confused
ngl im pretty good at all the conversations, but roathe's storyline is both buggy and convoluted to the point i just dont get it anymore
yes, they stop chatting me since yesterday
The early confess option for her isn't a good choice
Which convo is this, because I can assure you, a couple of her confessions are "Yeah I did it because you're hot"
i think you're fine, the exact same thing happened to me and i refused to reset it, told him sorry but i won't reset his memories and we'll do it together, after that in the next convos he's kinda moody but it's Roathe being Roathe, he'll go back to normal and talking to you soon,i believe if you do accept to reset that's where you actually are messing up
I might be too autistic to get it then, cause i thought we were bonding about our shared intrest of him
Has there been any bugs with Lyon actually ? Because if not, it truly proves he's the goat
Whatever I won't date her I guess
Hmm,,, odd. I had a conversation with them today, but no word from Loid
The gemini skin blinks with his chin
Lmao
You can still try later, just don't be dense or shallow
I don't think so, a friend of mine managed to get through everything just peachy with Lyon and even is romancing him, kissing him, going on dates, talking, she's living the life, here is just a fire in a dumpster
I thought the confession was "hey, also I like you" and not "the only reason why I'd like him is cause of you" which is insane to assume from the option
Reunion not triggering is a known bug, check forums, comment on the thread that matches your scenario, fight the urge to reset them. Mine was bugged and fixed today, no idea how.
It'd help if I knew which specific convo it is.
welcome to the club, mine has been for 3 days now, grab a seat
He's truly the best
I'm concern however, it is because Roathe somehow missing his Loid note even though I have it before dating him
It's okay, you guys have to be right. Thanks for the help.
Yeah don't worry about that, it's probably a bug too, I had it disappear aswell but the cutscene showed up for me anyway
^what Temple said
Oh also I got stuck in a convo where he wouldn't type even after exiting and re-entering the chat, but that seems to be fixed now
man i reset the KIM convo's because it genuinely told me i mucked up, and now i hear i didn't actually do anything wrong, and also now roathe is gonna be angry at me for it
right so nvm get off my seat i see you managed to get Loved with Roathe, you're not welcome in my seat anymore
and iirc, Roathe have 1 more convo after the last one, yet it does not show here in history
Just send a screenshot or three
Also bugged, doesn't show up either for me
hey, that last one in your shot, does the history for it match your dialogue choices
AWESOME and from this the NEXT message i was supposed to get was about the family too for FFFFFFFF
For those who’ve redeemed Roathe, does this text show up if you’ve redeemed him?
There's a shortcut to ignore the temperature mechanic to get Roathe's redemption/villany ending in convo Rank3Convo1 if you did reset.
Yes.
what rank is that again?
trusted i think right
Nah you're right, I was rude and didn't realize the option was. Wouldn't be the first time. It's the early confession.
Imagine i finally manage to get through all this only to have not managed to redeem Roathe, i'd actually jump someone, thankfully no one will be getting jumped for now cause i NEVER FOUND OUT YET IF I REDEEMED HIM OR NOT 💔
Always read thoroughly
you're amazing for telling me this, i genuinely thought i got myself into a bad/worse ending because the game told me to reset him and i did
yeah I think that the reason Loid reunion is softlock because it both registered as " have finished" Roathe chat, but at the same time missing the "help Loid" since that latest one is not register at all
idk tbh
I thought I did but I do struggle with it a lot. It's okay what's done it's done
@real niche just to clarify, do i have to do 21+ runs before that convo?
I almost messed up a couple chats myself bc I forgot to read the full options
totally your choice, but you could use the kimulacrum to check your progress, takes a bit since you have to manually compare, but, it helps
Not to my knowledge but do 21 asap since you need it anyway. The 21 runs matter around the Rank4-5 convos
alright ty
It's probably just a trigger issue and history issue honestly, it does count that you've had the convo, but the cutscene doesn't trigger
On my end, I had the convo to reunite Loid before the hotfix, it never showed up in my history and still doesn't, and on hotfix I got the cutscene and message from Loid
To be fair i did smack his ass once in a while with stuff of "i still think it's good to think of your actions and those you hurt" so i might've
Ah, well, given how you're stuck, that convo is where my issue was, its history is incorrect compared to my actual choices, but it was fixed (idk how) today, got the reunion scene finally
what i'm getting from all this ever since i came here with my problem is that nearly EVERYONE is screwed atm apparently
I think I'm still fine
If it makes y'feel better, these issues are in the known issue thread, so they ARE aware
better to go down with everyone than to just go down by yourself 
Honestly if it persists they'll def talk about it in the next devstream
yup yup
Gotta stop procrastinating on the decendias though...
right.. right.. watch yourself bud... 
Honestly I feel blessed about the fact that I not only didn't have the time to do all the Roathe conversation stuff before people ran into issues, but also I just failed in a normal and easily identifiable way (Temp was screwed)
obligatory, SUBMIT THEM BUG REPORTS, help the team help us all 
(cries while waiting on the gemini skins to be fixed)
The answer to all questions : ticket, bug report, ticket, ticket
Lyon's chin blinking is clearly intentional, the muscles definitely just migrated when he lost his left eye
his chin is WHAT
Yea
..is it in time with his eyes blinking
It's. Weird
Any visual bug on Marie ?
can't believe because of Roathe's attitude in the convos and me horrified with messing up legit thought i screwed up with him like 4 times only to ACTUALLY get screwed at the end of the run
Eye. Yes
don't even care, the way he says Mon Miracle is so good the chin will be the least of his worries
He's a devil, he was gonna screw everyone over anyway 👀
I only know of the clipping with her..shawl? skirt? thing
Eh, not as funny as chin Lyon and naked Roathe
true
i couldn't care less who he'd screw over as long as it wasn't ME BRO 💔
He's gonna learn not to mess with the Jojos
clearly i got too cocky thinking everything was fine when i didn't have a single issue with the Anathema phase.. never again 💔
Watch the circled part up close in the arsenal and you'll see it
poor guy has a hole in his chin
[Your’s] was bugged and fixed today, no idea how.
Did you reload the game maybe? Like fully quit out of the game and then reloaded it?
I did that last night post-hotfix AND post-reset, nothing happened, logged in tonight before reset and poof, worked.
Nah it's normal aside from twitching when he blinks
need help with Roathe. I think i failed the conversation thing. the computer reads "unfortunately, there's only one way forward for me now..." do i need to reset them?
i did not woo him
Actually, if someone only has one eye, is every blink a wink
Lyon is winking at me constantly
And does it count as one eye if it has two pupils
He wants me fr
Wh a t
The sonic dilemma
replying to myself, but eh, the extra interesting part, I logged in tonight, had loid in the KIM, no other messages, AFTER i finished that, marie suddenly had a message, like it was queue'd up and waiting for the loid talk to complete
naughty naughty
Yeah, that's her last convo, assuming she went upstairs aswell or Otak went downstairs, pretty cool convo honestly
I will not. What did you mean with that gif
She FINALLY acts good with Otak
very neat, just surprised it triggered and didnt have to wait for a reset
right so checked just in case, i have a message from Lyon and Marie, one is Lyon talking abt Roathe (because we're DATING even tho it says we're Best Friends..) and the other is Marie wanting to speak abt Lyon but guess what
NO MESSAGE FROM ROATHE
he's scared of you after those tail comments
Wait why does the emperor play warframe. Is this what you're doing while tav does all the work
Give him a sec to put his pants on before answering
..help..choked on my water laughing
I have no idea what you're talking about...
What message will I see if I faild to get Roathe to help reunite the family?
he better be after once again no message from him I will be going to The Cathedrale and grab his tail and dip it in hella spicy chili sauce and repeatedly ram his tail into his own ASS
That's heavy daamn
||He might be into that tho watch out, he's an Orokin||
seeing roathe's convos he'd like it
EXACTLY LOL

i knew ya'll were gonna say that 💔 whatever I'll just chain him up into a room with Entrati, he's gonna have a blast listening to his monologues
Chains ? That's it ?
He's gonna break out and murder him
You'd pretty much be giving him the one thing he wants 👀
Other than his missing pants
How tho, all his abilities need fancy moves to cast
Well on his first ability, he has fire all around him, he just says RAZUUL and boom, melt the chains off
the chains we find him chained with in Descendia ofc, I'm not THAT foolish
aww just had a convo of Lyon speaking nicely abt Roathe and me saying i'm happy i get to be there for him...
He's probably into that let's be real
Lyon the GOAT
The fake chains that the mental construct roathe dissolves at the start of every fight?
so Roathe answer THE DAMN PHONE KIM
I actually... i thought we broke them...
huh i am THAT foolish
Yes, lmfao
well never freaking mind
Nah roathe does the whole Absolute Cinema pose and dissolves them himself
how do i know if i failed to get the roathe flags right for loid? what will the KIM say?
I love the conversation from Marie, I think, where she says she has to go because Roathe wants to use the PC, I just imagine them all shoving each other around to get to the POM lol
i give up i'll make him suffer somehow
You might aswell bring in a sentient and have it make the same chain thing ish that kept him contained for years before the tenno went RAP TAP TAP LITTLE PIGGY
You have to torture him mentally not physically
Not roathe
It might work on Roathe 👀
fine i'll just follow him around while loudly reading the bible from Sol and Lua
Just keep showing him your collection of necramech and archwing, he hates them
Or just tell Marie to go and float around him while reciting scriptures that'll show him
my Roathe has admitted to not minding their company so at this point i don't think he would, me on the other hand? we'll see 
Dawg he WANTS your company
He becomes fond of Marie and Lyon but that doesn't mean there aren't things that they can still do to irritate him
If all else fails, pull a ballas, find his worst memory and make him relive it ad infinium
Am I screwed or can i fix this?
dawg have you seen the bug im in where we're dating but he's been DEAD in the KIM for 3 days now 💔 😔
He left you on read I fear
Do descendia
Have you killed him 21 times or more in Descendia ?
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYINGGGGGG
Forcing you to come in person to sit on his lap or whatever
im pretty sure this is the "neutral" ending
How long did your note show that ? Is it only from today?
Got all voice messages?
ah yes... i would know that if he SPOKE TO ME instead of ghosting me for 3 days and probably making an excuse that he "accidentaly" broke the POM
appeared today, and all 21 messages
Tail got in the way
Wait maybe another daily reset see if it changes anything
dawg are ya'll on his side or MINE 💔
Even better, that excuse doesn't even work as long as the other two still chat
Good question 👀
I'm on me side
okay, how do i "reset" this group? I know the Hex is done evey 4 weeks. is this the same?
if i need to reset them
Go on the POM PC, next to the icons at the bottom there's a grimoire next to the settings, click it
eeeey, looks like they've already got a fix for the reunion not triggering pending for the next hotfix already, that's nice
doesn't he say this tail has a mind of its own
Actually you're on Lyon's side......
He does
if nothing changes, you have to reset and push roathe more to seek forgiveness through the other triad members
Tail indeed got in the way and it cannot type
Ggot it, tyty. I really appreciate the help 🙂 .
I'm on the side of the Indifference
-# (This is a semi-obscure game reference, say it out loud)
I'm on me side
Pirates when they fall over on the deck:
How dare you be funnier than me
alternatively, you can bypass the "temperature" (basically forgiveness points) at Liked ranked first convo by telling him that he required forgiveness for running from himself (you need to do MORE THAN 21 RUNS BEFORE THIS!!!)
ykw good to know cause at the rate things are going i might have need for that information
spoilers for underlying code n such
I think I stumbled into one of those shortcuts in one of my earlier conversations, I don't know where the thermometer was at but he's redeemed
My nose is burning from the nose laugh you caused me to suffer
The whole idea of eternalism is bazar and when the lore stops blowing my mind I’ll try my best to look into who said IT first future and past intertwined 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Oh yeah this one this is the one I got
yeah youve stumbled onto the shortcut
Didn't know it gave a shortcut but that makes sense given I only had one dialogue option when he was yelling at me lol
Keep in mind that warframe eternalism is just multiverse theory AND completely irrelevant
I wonder how you get the villain one
"For running." can only be said when you have reset him atleast once
tell him nothing is his fault and also all orokin suck and hes an orokin
The same convo but villain one ?
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
basically not enough thermostat points will give him his villain ending i think
im quite surprised i never f'ed up anything with Roathe taking into account i'm dumb but managed to have a balance in agreeing with him that it's how he is and that he should contemplate abt the people's he's killed and caused suffering to
Could you tell me what rank.convo. what it is ? So I could check kimulacrum
Rank3 (liked)
this is the other convo if youre evil
now that i think im quite surprised he never got mad at me either now hold on a sec
you literally have to actively agree that hes the coolest person ever for doing warcrimes and murdering innocents
he of course loves this response cuz it strokes his ego
And probably something else...
I legit do not remember choosing those and still being on villain arc
Ahh interesting lol
yeah its also dependant on the thermostat
good to know i didn't f up cause i certainly did not agree with that, i think the one i chose was along the lines of "I mean they have to understand you're Orokin, it's who you are, doesn't meant you can't change" or whatever
I kept challenging his views so I guess I was probably getting positive thermos anyways
this is the shortcut, only obtainable after reset
Neat
His tail obviously
Oh right fair enough
Exactly
It's similar to another convo so I got confused
but i was kinda surprised that you have to genuinely push him hard on needing redemption and forgiveness to get a good ending
the flowcharts for his conversations are insanely large so it might very well be that you had the same opening dialogue but completely different outcomes
ugh i should be bending him over rn instead i'm waiting for 3 days for a message like i'm just one of his side hoes
these are only the exact choices you need to enter to get his shortcuts
I don't think his villain ending is thaaaat bad
villain ending or not there will be bending involved
From what I remember and the dialogue I had that I've re-read, I just had a normal non-reset convo before doing 21+ runs on descendia, so, yeah
is french ppl evil
Yes, next question
Roathe's getting just what he wanted, im legit starting so lose my mind over this
I assure you, it's noticeable lmao
there's a convo with Marie where all i answered to her was a simple "Roathe would be so proud of you" so def
thanks Temple 
1/3 french blood dna isn't looking so good for me right now... 💔
wait was that a good thing
Yes she needed to hear it
Imagine what I'm feeling being 100% french
Nothing, I'm still evil
no no i meant if Temple telling me "I assure you it's noticeable" was a good thing, Marie DID need to hear that, i wouldn't care if after that she blocked me i was pissedddd
Mind Flayer born in Avignon
Nothing bad with losing your mind over a devil 👀
Oh I see lmao
Almost close
that convo nearly had me go grab Lyon just to ask him to hold me back
Especially when the devil is blue instead of red and has a silver tongue
honestly if you want the good ending for all characters of the triad, keep these rules in mind:
- Roathe: push him on needing to seek forgiveness and needing to change. Specifically don't empathize with him because even though we can understand him, he's a bad person that needs to atone for his wrongdoing
- Lyon: imo, easiest out of the three. Give him space to talk, be straightforward with him and understanding
- Marie: Don't agree with her that Albrecht is a good person, but also don't immediately start telling her off for trusting him. Really just wait long enough for her to get into trouble with the cavia and then tell softly tell her that albrecht is not a good person
Someone make a captura out of this please
Mods. Shoot him
This is basically what I was doing with all 3 of them so I'm on a good track to the finale I think
Marie was fk LOSING it she needed a freaking exorcism
Lyon is easy to talk to I think, he would probably be the one I get along with best irl
Lyon is a more severe and male version of my first crush
If I were to date one of the triad in game I'd do Roathe just cause he entertains me the most lmao he's funny
Where's grandpa rn lore wise
Lyon is a lil autistic
"Right so i heard what you said... i thought about it... I can sympathise with his points BUT I’M GONNA IGNORE THAT AND HE MUST FIND IT IN HIS HEART TO FORGIVE HIM, he MUST forgive him"
Uranus
What the serum and he did to his back is absolutely horrifying, I wonder how much it hurts him
Just like Rell
yep
MARIE
What
How so you censor for spoilers on discord chat
/ and then write spoiler
Hunhow is stuck in the ocean of uranus
I use || at the start and end of message segment that need to be spoiled
HIM!? I'M A WOMAN (pls get the reference)
Oh okay ty
How do you unlock the cutscene where ||Loid reunites with the Entrati family upstairs?|| I’m maxed on all factions concerned, the 3 agree to ||reunite Loid with the fam on KIM||
No one gets my references, I will not get your reference. It's only fair
Did you get all dialogues on max rank ? if so, when is the last time you got a dialogue from anyone especially Roathe
ah yes, the Drifter storming into The Cathedrale after the argument with Marie just to completely lose it again with Marie in there, Lyon trying to helplessly stop it and Roathe cackling loudly
love how canonically loid and the cavia told marie you're an actual saint
whats the max rank called? I'm Close with all of them, and last Roathe message was today
Best friend / Loved
oof not there yet then
You need to wait for more convos then yeah
Saint Drifter at your service
dam
wait they what!?
Don't worry you should be there pretty soon
Saint Drifter the grifter for Orokin goodies
Loid plays saints row
On his husband's computer
if you are nice to her during the first conversation she says loid and the cavia already told her you would probably help with the devil of tau
I think I'd have a difficult choice between Roathe and Marie because the way she says "my wolf"... (i'm a voruna main)
mf is literally a warcriminal turned half demon
and loid went "yeah they'd help with that fosho"
Just Drifter things
Just about the type of every Warframe players
oh i remember getting something like that, it was weeks ago, didn't quite clock they were calling me saint tho, more like "saved a marriage between two grown ass adults so she can do that too"
Ok but which protoframe is going to mod Solitaire on my POM-2
Amir
Quincy 100%
It's a joint effort trust
He'll ask Amir to do it so he can play it
yo... i don't think you heard me... i said Amir...
yeah that's what i thought 
You said Quincy? Yeah that's what I said too !
dude Marie would have a field day with you, you're obedient af
Yeah uh, I absolutely hate Marie lmfao
yeah that checks out 
I'm Team Cavia
You don't make Bird 3 cry
And then call the Entrati family vipers
And yell at Tagfer
And then speaking Loid's name in VAIN "He claims to love him but then-"
switch wife with "gay traumatised father"
Fibo is the one slapping Marie in this case
LMFAOOOOOO
This actually just sent me I pictured Fibo growing legs and casually walking out of the tank to rock her shit 😭
Who up fibbing they nacci
Tagfer keeps yelling while pulling Fibo out of the tank and throwing him at Marie's face
Bird 3 keeps crying and Loid laughs his ass off
Or you send Gomaitru after her
imma walk up to marie like: hey sol sister
Epic reference
i actually think Loid would just be panicking tf out of his mind 😭
He evolves for the sole purpose of throwing hands
If Roathe's pressuring him he'd laugh out of stress
Ain't that mister mister on the POM2
dude i just remembered the Lotus is currently residing there imagine her seeing all that oh my days 😭💀
Are we supposed to be able to interact with her ? She's constantly closing her eyes for me like she's dead
Maybe she does that hoping I won't see her
Her telling the Operator what's happening hoping that them being their responsible selves will step in and put an end to it and they just join them adding more fuel to the fire
Nah she'd film that stuff and show us after lmao
as far as i'm aware i don't think so... for now at least
Operator doesn't get involved until Roathe comes out the portal
actually the Operator IS THE ONE RECORDING 😭
Then well.... Its alot instinct to not shank him
why is this so small wtf 💔
Walking into Deimos
and then they all makeout
Woah woah woah
okay 
i just felt like it was building towards that, i thought we were on the same wavelength 😔
They're family, they wouldn't 👀
I can not read
Lmfaooo
He’s the guy who SHOT ME WITH A LEX
Whyd he shoot u
wait we're talking abt the Hex right 
well everyone's Drifter with said love partner from the Hex might think otherwise 
he was mad Loid made him sleep outside
I mean, Arthur did ask me not to date anyone else from the Hex because they're all family 👀
Oh okay
“No I will not call you my little pog champ, sleep on the couch.”
i think Arthur might be my canon romance ngl, but to romance Roathe I had to break up with him (knowing most of the Hex members takes on sharing/poly it felt out of character for me, ik it's so people don't have to choose between them, im speaking in my case) so even tho i was allowed to romance Arthur and someone from the Devil Triad (Roathe) i couldn't bring myself to do so, had to break up with him 😔 💔 his convo regarding that gave vibes he's not okay with it but for you he's willing to go with it 😭
A nuisance
If you have rank 5 with the entrati family, technically
absent piece of shit gay father
Totally fair, Arthur's my "canon" romance too (i even have an IRL floof ahem), probably will break up with Roathe eventually, since i just wanted to see what it was all about, but I'm waiting for the triad to not be bugged at all to do so, in case it bugs my rank too
I HAVE HIS IRL FLOOF TOO NO WAY
He's the deadbeat we're chasing for child support
woah WOAH DO YOU FEEL THIS
Can't wait for the Sprodling too, it'll go on the cake shelf
PLs don't eat it
Nah I don't eat mushrooms, I'll just manifest Nokko from it so I can have a warframe irl 👀
real... i'd manifest Hildryn
for... no particular reason
I'd want Inaros really 👀
I don't get the internet's obsession with muscle mountain mommy stuff
it's less the internet more each person's taste
Aren't you a Hildryn main too? 😭
Oh well, thought you had said so
tbf just cause a certain character's your main doesn't immediately mean you
after it, it CAN but it might not be the case

