spoiler-chat

[mental ice]

I like what DE did with Lyon story, this one was awesome

[solid otter]

Cmon fibro is fun its interesting its hip its cool

I shall now imprint it onto Albrecht actually

[tight pagoda]

Oh Lyon's got schizophrenia too

[solid otter]

He was temporarily disabled for a while

[mental ice]

If we ever get anemia proto frame npc, it will be xaku

[tight pagoda]

Baruuk with Narcolepsy

[mental ice]

Equinox with split personality?

[solid otter]

Blind and having your throat torn up is disabling methinks

[quick smelt]

Okay but Garuda being anemic

[solid otter]

Ahh anaemic isnt that bad. Low iron. Go eat iron. Shrimple
-# thats what anaemia is right

Hitting Loid with the POTS baton because I hate him sometimes

[quick smelt]

Commonly it’s low iron but sometimes it’s other things

[solid otter]

Yeah like sickle cell anaemia

[mental ice]

It's scary O_O I was once in hospital and my ward was neighbooring with anemic people, at one point I had to take a walk and suddenly all doors opened and people looking like husks came out, talk about real life horror experience 🙀

[quick smelt]

Or something wrong with your bone marrow

Aplastic anemia

[solid otter]

I find hospitals rather calming personally

Having constant seizures and being in the hospital for weeks does that to a mf

Oh my god my childhood was horrible

[mental ice]

To be fair, yeah, I agree they are calming

[uncut solar]

I feel like Anemia is definitely somewhere in Garuda's sheet

Because Garuda Hinsa exists and its a disheveled bug

I love it sm

[mental ice]

Heh, still remember when DE showed Hinsa on stream and people were like "STICC"

[uncut solar]

My favorite deluxe alongside Lavos

[mental ice]

good we have variety, though non-pregnant jade skin would be very welcome

[amber terrace]

Help, Roathe is yelling at me

[covert dune]

Should have not listened to you. Did 21, not 22 and I got the bad ending. Thank you, now I have to frigging reset everything, it will take another friggin month

[amber terrace]

He’s yelling at me for,,, <let’s see here> <checks notes>,,, doing descendia?

[mental ice]

Violence is always an answer, if it does not work, you are not using enough of it (do more descendia)

[uncut solar]

He's starting to remember too much and he doesn't like what he's remembering

[uncut solar]

Yeah, imo deluxe skins should give a new vibe or reinforce the existing one under a different prism

[amber terrace]

How do I un-kneecap myself?

[uncut solar]

Or just be a sentient skin

[covert dune]

You need to do that to get the good ending, do not worry

[uncut solar]

I'm ok with a deluxe being a sentient skin

[mental ice]

Thankfully The Old Peace gave sense for the sentient skins to exist

[real niche]

If you got the bad end then you screwed up somewhere else with the Temperature. You need 5+ temp for redemption.

[covert dune]

I checked the kimulacrum. That part did not even count how much temp I had it only counted how many descendia I did. Yesterday I did exactly 21 and even double checked the dialogues Roathe says when you get to 21

[amber terrace]

If I may petition the folks here for help, how do I unscrew myself or am I already anathema’d by Roathe?

[real niche]

Which convo is that one?

[amber terrace]

The one where he yells at me for doing Descendia, I think?

[covert dune]

Might be a bug. Yesterday after doing all of the descendia till reaching 21 I did not get any audios from Roathe. I don't think that is the reason because the game should count how many Descendias I did not if I listened to the audios or not

[mental ice]

You should be fine, this talk is a bit tricky but I had it

[real niche]

Going with this assumption, did he say this?

[amber terrace]

Would I be able to check your notes? See how to un-kneecap myself?

[errant perch]

So I just got this with Roathe, and I feel like I did something wrong because this isn't the one I wanted. What did I do wrong?

[mental ice]

Sure, lemme check 🙂

[amber terrace]

Thank you so much! Like genuinely

[mental ice]

This is how it went for me

[covert dune]

Does anyone know if you can still redeem him after you get the "RoatheFailNot21" thing?

[mint linden]

I just finished a convo with Flare or more accurately Lizzie, I made her mad by not letting her consume Flare and I got jumpscared by analog horror Flare? Scared the life outta me 😭

[jagged sable]

I dog diddly dun did it.

[real niche]

Oh if you got that then you're fine from what I can see. Have the convo with Lyon (doesn't look like it's required but I'd still do it considering these chats are a bit buggy) and then do more Descendia.

RoatheFailNot21 is the only one where you aren't actually in a failstate

[amber terrace]

I finally got drunk Lyon! Even though I know basically nothing about how liquor aging works, I gotta wonder how strong that Orokin era, never-opened-in-Lua-knows how-long, kinda wine is

[covert dune]

Nah just checked the future convs you get if you got the "RoatheFailNot21" and all those end in RoatheFail and not redeeming him. If you do more descendia after that then Roathe will tell you to either wipe all of their memories or you get the LyonRoatheFail conversation.

[real niche]

Oh wait I see now

[errant perch]

Can anyone help me with this please? I'm confused and I don't know what I did wrong

[haughty shuttle]

heyy , so it say i can ask out roath to go out with me but i dont have the option is that normal ?? ( i checked on marie and i can ask her )

[real niche]

...Wait no I don't see. You go into that convo, then you either get RoatheWillReset or Initiate conversation LyonRoatheFail assuming you did do more than 21 after you got FailNot21. Then you do the LyonRoatheFix convo and go into MarieRoatheFix. So what happened in your case?

[full violet]

Hey yall, i just did all 21 roathe messages, because the game said I needed to in order to continue dialogue with him, but it's still saying im at an impasse with him

do I have to wait till tomorrow to get more dialogue because it wont let me

Also, it's saying I could ask him out but it wont let me

[haughty shuttle]

same thing for me is it a bug or what ?

[jagged sable]

It seems like you went with RoatheVIllain rather than RoatheRedeemed. dunno if you can change it without slamming your fist down on the floor and yelling "BEGIN AGAIN" as far as I know.

[covert dune]

This kim is extremely bug. Yesterday I did the 21 descendia runs, Roathe started begging me to stop and all that. Today he talked to me and thanked me for keeping my promise (promise which in that conversation I denied) and got the RoatheFailNot21 and Now I somehow also have the LyonRoatheFail conversation. For more clarity with Roathe I was on the RoatheRank5Convo1

[tight pagoda]

Wait for DE to fix it

[errant perch]

I was trying to go for the redeemed one. I haven't even had the date with Lyon yet!

[real niche]

Oh, then just get LyonRoatheFailFix and then continue with Marie if you can.

[tight pagoda]

I feel bad for the one DE employee still in the office no doubt being bombarded with reports about this one thing

[covert dune]

You can't either because with RoatheFailNot21 talk with Lyon the kim basically avoids the RoatheFailFix entirely so...

[real niche]

Can you not get the RoatheFail option in that Lyon chat?

This is what you should be able to get to fix this mess

[amber terrace]

I received an amount of assistance with this, now, if I am to pester you with another issue, how do I get the ability to mend the family? I chose the option for Marie, Lyon, and the Drifter to repair the family, but I don’t think I’ve gotten to the Lyon chat where I offer him to help me and Marie send Loid upstairs

[full violet]

Okay so, I didn't get a new message from roathe today because as of yesterday it said I was at an impass with him and had to do more descendia, I did it today and got all 21 messages. I then got a kim message with lyon saying I should keep doing it to help roathe, now the anathema thing is gone but I'm not getting any more dialogue with roathe, do I need to wait until 7pm tomorrow?

Will i be able to ask him out then?

Because I can do lyon and marie

[covert dune]

For that you need the RoatheFail. Sorry I said it wrong. I got the Lyon conversation with RoatheFail not that I got the RoatheFail path

[tight pagoda]

... wait for DE to fix it, unfortunately, or Reset and try a different path

[real niche]

Oh okay then you're screwed because that'd definitely be a bug if you did the 21 runs but got the Not21 flag rn.

Unless running more Descendia somehow unscrews it

[full violet]

where do you see these flags?

[mental ice]

When is DE back in the office anyway? 🤔

[real niche]

You don't, normally.

[full violet]

probably next week

[real niche]

They're just hidden variables in the background

[fiery oyster]

I've done all 21 of the Descendia things but still havent had the convo with Roathe

[mental ice]

So just need to wait a bit, bet the hotfix will be pretty fast anyway

[tight pagoda]

External tool called the Kimulacrum on the browse.wf site

[covert dune]

It would probably work if I didn't get the RoatheFailNot21 already. Don't think it will work, should have done the 22. It's defo a bug, I checked and I only got 15/21 audios when I did 21 runs

[fiery oyster]

oh, how would I know if I failed? cause the intel thing still says about the Descendia

[errant perch]

This was the conversation I had right before the thing changed. Everything said in the second pic didn't have multiple choices to make

So I don't know where I went wrong

[fiery oyster]

think I had that convo but told him I wouldnt and that we'd figure it out together

[covert dune]

You are fine then. Do 21 descendia and 1 more just to make sure you did all of em.

[fiery oyster]

I got the Honoria for the 21

might as well do another to make sure

thanks 😄

well, just ran it and Roathe didnt say anything but its done lol

[pastel pasture]

Ok it's literally 21 though

You got the bad ending for another reason

X>=21 means greater than or equal to

[mental ice]

You definitely had RoatheVillain, I had RoatheRedeemer, posted pics of same convo just a bit above.

[covert dune]

I would have not said anything if it was for another reason. But The Rank5Conversation1 literally does not care about anything except for the number of descendia runs you did (at least in the first part to choose if you get RoatheFailNot21 or not) and I got the RoatheFailNot21 so thank you for making all this month of joining the game to do the kim go to waste

[limpid gale]

Have I bricked myself?

||I’ve had no messages from Loid, but I’ve gone and made friends with Lyon and Roathe, dated Marie, and fully explored the Descendia I think. But aren’t I supposed to be getting messages from Loid or something? About him going up to see the family?||

[pastel pasture]

Bruh

Roathe fail not 21 means you didn't do 21

It literally says not 21

[covert dune]

The thing is I did 21. I got the Honoria and all that

[pastel pasture]

Then it's bugged

Because triad kim is super bugged

[errant perch]

So it seems the choice I made in my second response on the first pic was what I did wrong?

[pastel pasture]

But I'm not explaining to you that x>=21 means 21 is a valid answer for x

[mental ice]

yeah, but I wouldn't call it a wrong choice, it is not a failure 🤔 either way you got him to accept his memories and got him out of his spiral

[pastel pasture]

So stop blaming me

[full violet]

I agreed to his wishes but then it said i still needed to continue, and I did, got all the messages and now i guess I'm waiting for tomorrow night?

[errant perch]

True. I just wanted to redeem him

[covert dune]

You can still get the good ending as long as you do the 21 but do more than 21 just to be sure

[pastel pasture]

If you agreed and did 21 you should be fine

[real niche]

I love how the one time they added checks for doing gameplay stuff outside of KIM for KIM stuff it's borked as all get out

[pastel pasture]

Not doing 21 is fixable though

By doing 21

[mental ice]

Always doable with reset, but honestly I don't think this will have any consequences later, it still leads to same resolution of the whole devil triad 🤔

[full violet]

i did 21 i got the honoria, should I do 1 more just to be safe?

[pastel pasture]

Sure

[real niche]

Yes, it's really not a hard fight anyway

[full violet]

since it's still showing me this

[pastel pasture]

Since someone has claims to suggest it is prone to bugging

[full violet]

it did say anathema before i did the 21 so idk what more to do

[errant perch]

Yeah, that makes sense

[covert dune]

Yeah it's bugged as hell. Yesterday I got the achievement and all with the Honoria plus his comment of begging me to stop, Im checking for the Honoria and it dissapeared

[pastel pasture]

Like I said earlier triad Kim is VERY buggy

But that seems to be visual

As not 21 leads to anathema

Or whatever it's called

[covert dune]

Is there no way to fix Roathe after getting the RoatheFailNot21?

[jagged sable]

AAaaah, see. You may have either had the thermostat too low or the Villainshortcut flag on. The thermostat is a hidden score that's determined on your responses to the Triad (not just Roathe) in the KIM.
High thermostat is Redeemed Roathe, Low thermostat is Villain Roathe

[pastel pasture]

No do more

[errant perch]

There's a thermastat? I'm now more confused. Does it help to mention I had the option turned on to go through all of the conversations with them?

[pastel pasture]

You can fix not 21 if its the flag im thinking of

[covert dune]

"Yes, but do more" or "No, reset"?

[full violet]

it's the fact i can ask both marie and lyon out, but not roathe thats upsetting me

[pastel pasture]

Do more

[full violet]

I WANT TO KISS THE OROKIN

[pastel pasture]

Or wait for Kim patch

but i can not overstate this enough

triad kim is extreamly buggy right now. almost to the point i'd suggest people to avoid it

[jagged sable]

The Kimulcrum help when looking to "raise the heat" so to speak
Having all of the convos turned on certainly does help.

[full violet]

so i needa wait

[pastel pasture]

right now my honest advice to people having trouble is

[solid otter]

I think it was really built for "all conversations" to be on

[mental ice]

A lot of conversations with Roather / Marie / Lyon have hidden +1 thermostat or -1 thermostat counter, the negative is if your responsers align more with orokin mindset, the positive I would say align with the idealistic type. Ether strong negative or strong positive lead to good ending, I think worst is thermostat between 0-4

[pastel pasture]

"just have fun with it and reset once hotfix comes"

that's what I'm gonna do

[lament thicket]

Already did the 21 kim messages from doing descendia and he still randomly is in Anathema.

[pastel pasture]

you can date marie and lyon at the same time
the triad randomly goes anathema for no reason
roathe isn't dateable
roathe visually resets rep
Marie dating is visually bugged on KIM

appernetly Roathe's anathema is bugged

[lament thicket]

Even got some chem points earlier.

[full violet]

so basically the trio is bugged rn

[pastel pasture]

frankly it's in a bit of an embarassing state

[errant perch]

My brain hurts trying to understand this, lol. It's nothing you're doing wrong, but it's confusing lol

[lament thicket]

-# also what was he tryna imply here? XD

[covert dune]

Apparently you can get the RoatheFail if you wait for the Roathe5Day2 with the RoatheFailNot21

[pastel pasture]

forgiveness is good and murder is bad: thermostat up

Murder and violence is good: thermostat down

[lament thicket]

I went and searched for the meaning of the words.

[errant perch]

The thing is, I think I with the first one in my conversations

[lament thicket]

BRUH ROATHE XDDDDD

[pastel pasture]

any response with the word "forgive(ness)" is probably a thermostat up

I think Marie has one that's like "....I know you believe in forgiveness..."

[mental ice]

yes, although from what I know, you can have high positive thermostat BUT also RoatheVillain 🤔

[lament thicket]

Honestly Roathe is probably the only Orokin I'm willing to forgive because he quite frankly is pretty chill lmao

[pastel pasture]

thermo requirement for redeemed is really high. to the point you can't get it through Roathe alone

unless you find the shortcut

which is ||telling Roathe "don't you want to be forgiven?" and then "there's one important bullet point you're forgetting....yourself||

[lament thicket]

If it ends up that my kim is bricked I will probably reset and keep this in mind for future roathe convos.

[errant perch]

Probably. And I found your screenshots, and I ended up going with a separate choice for the second time your character talks in that conversation

[lament thicket]

Will still date Marie though.

[mental ice]

Which is why I think you have RoatheVillain but a high thermostat counter 🙂

[lament thicket]

I just hope his Anathema is removed by tomorrow...

[mental ice]

so either way it works

[errant perch]

Ah

[pastel pasture]

oh heck

[full violet]

anathema is basically just a word for impass

[pastel pasture]

i passed Marie's test

[full violet]

so then, where am I at

do I just wait for tomorrow or hopefully the hotfix

[pastel pasture]

Marie has earened the title of side chick while i wait for Roathe to be patched

[pastel pasture]

if you reset now you risk just getting in the same pot before the patch comes out.

Honestly just enjoy the ride for now, reset once the hotfix mentions fixing your particular issue

you can skull me all you want but my heart belongs to Roathe

joking aside. I have always been a big fan of the "He can break me" trope

Roathe Villain relationship >:3

[full violet]

I want to fix him and then slow dance with him

I have 2 types, roathe and eleanor

[pastel pasture]

now the real question is

straight roathe or gay roathe

[full violet]

I just want to kiss roathe!

I haven't looked up the video yet im sitting in anticipation waiting

Why must i wait 24 hours

[pastel pasture]

its kinda messed up but I do want all the romance honorias

[mental ice]

Wish they displayed what the title is, this is so ambigous XD

[pastel pasture]

also don't tell Amir. I'm technically still dating him.....i need his kiss email then i'm dumping him via mindwipe

part of me wants to tell Roathe this given who he is clearly talking about

[civic skiff]

hi so im further along than you but i believe we're currently bugged atm

[full violet]

I didn't know that I wanted to date both a telepathic woman and a ex-evil orokin until DE gave me the option

[civic skiff]

roathefailnot21 is the only state where i believe you have to reset even though its not explicitly clear and even though lyon tries to initiate fix

[full violet]

how do you reset it though

[civic skiff]

digital grimore

[full violet]

im not gonna but still

[civic skiff]

bottom right

[solid otter]

Bi-tendancies, you get used to it/j

[full violet]

it's true though

you clocked me lol

[solid otter]

I clocked it because im doing the exact same thing cept not Roathe but Lyon. I think Eleanor and Lyon would get along

[plush kestrel]

kim is bugged right? i did it the 21 runs before, even got the title, and today i got the fool conversation (rank5convo8) asking for reset

[solid otter]

Mhm.

[full violet]

-# I want eleanor to pilot my body around as she's offered to do so

[mental ice]

Kaya is fun to talk to, I mean, she is annoying teenager but her backstory is very nice and very relatable

[full violet]

WHO SAID THAT

[solid otter]

Exactly that what I expected

I aint gonna lie. And you like roathe bcs hes a pathetic baby man. Right?
-# its always the pathetic men strong woman people

[nocturne musk]

anyone here think that lettie would fw lyon

[errant perch]

I'm some sort of anomoly.

[full violet]

Okay so wait, what if, Eleanor is controlling you, then has you transference into her, is she controlling you controlling her, or is she just controlling herself

[mental ice]

But that is good too, you have your own path unlike others 😄

[humble bluff]

Elaborate?

[errant perch]

True, lol.

[civic skiff]

fromw hat i understand, if you didnt do the 21 runs before rank 5 convo, it locks you out of everything regarding an ending because the fixes dont apply to the 21 at all

[nocturne musk]

idk I think they'd get along well

[mental ice]

I am still calling it, DE will add more protoframes and we will have a dark skinned beauty as one, because we cannot romance a beautiful black girl 🤔

[humble bluff]

Yeah I could see them being friends

[nocturne musk]

I'm surprised people are missing the 21 logs at ALL to be honest

considering you could deadass get all of them day 1 by farming uriel and vinnquibus through decendia

[pastel pasture]

frankly? Roathe fight is boring

[mental ice]

I bet its those people who purchased uriel for plat 🤣

[pastel pasture]

the one fun part is jumping for his nuke tokens

at least bosses like the tank require thinking vs just point and shoot

[humble bluff]

Roathe be like

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-getoutofmyhead-cat-gif-24215722

[nocturne musk]

son 😭

Just do pubs and you get done with the fight so quickly

[pastel pasture]

i fail to see how that is relevant to what I said

[mental ice]

IMO, the issue is that uriel + vinquibus could have been purchased with plat. Those who did, literally have no reason to do 21 repetitive fights

[pastel pasture]

nowhere did I say I did not do it 21 times

[nocturne musk]

its boring & quick is what I'm saying

[pastel pasture]

i was explaining why people don't do it. because Roathe fight is boring

Descendia is fun, and doing descendia 21 times in one sitting is a bit too much to ask

so that's why people don't get 21 VMs. because they don't want to do descendia 21 times, despite it being fun. and don't want to do Roathe 21 times because he's boring to fight

[nocturne musk]

you can replay the boss fight by itself though so doing the entire descendia 21 times wouldn't even be factored in here

[winged ore]

idk, I got it done in my like first 4 days of the update or sth

[mental ice]

Agreed with @pastel pasture , Roathe fights should provide more incentive to replay them 21 times, like each time granting a cosmetic or something. Anything really..

[winged ore]

but I farmed two Uriels

[mental ice]

^

[winged ore]

and the weapons of course

[pastel pasture]

if you want to debate with me you are required to read my entire arguement

[mental ice]

https://tenor.com/view/techno-turian-dancing-mass-effect-gif-14620000

[eager dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-man-hello-chat-hello-chat-gif-24187047

[winged ore]

personally, I also enjoyed the Roathe lines, becaus he had so many

[solid otter]

Bought one Uriel and built another

Subsumed the other one. Into the wall...

[eager dagger]

Back to cry that nothing works ): hotfix Jesus save us

[pastel pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-1999-amir-beckett-quincy-isaacs-gif-598994283070582591

[solid otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447039990847504535/1448726608981659689/IMG_0074.gif

My honest reaction

[nocturne musk]

I was addressing the descendia point, not the roathe boss fight being boring because that's more subjective

[eager dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-ember-warframe-gif-2029263644196346225

[pastel pasture]

I like him going from "Albrecht is a jerk for censoring my memories." to "GOOD LORD DRIFTER STOP PLEASE."

[mental ice]

Rap tap tap

[winged ore]

Rap tap tap, you'll let me in little piggy

[pastel pasture]

Gave Roathe a lil taste of Duviri hospitality

[eager dagger]

Like the nerve of this guy ….frame thing. Take your mf memories

[solid otter]

Suddenly Roathe realises why Albrecht did that. Didnt remove his hatred tho. I think it made it worse

[winged ore]

eventually he just goes "is this how duviri felt for you? did it just get boring after dying so many times?"

[eager dagger]

Wait why did he do it?

[pastel pasture]

I think he has two or three lines about comparing his experience to the Drifter's on duviri

[eager dagger]

He gets over it real fast when you don’t erase his shyte

[pastel pasture]

Roathe's memories were ||wiped at his request||

[mental ice]

I wonder why Albrecht even did what he did to Roathe, then again, that guy is monstreous pragmatic (amazing voice though.)

[eager dagger]

Mf W H A T

[civic skiff]

iirc it might be ranked locked? i bought most of mine through the pity shop bc of the treasure room in week 1 so i didnt have to bother with descendia past the couple of runs until it was too late

[winged ore]

yup

[solid otter]

Roathe is worse than Albrecht, so if Roathe can be redeemed, guess who csn be too.

[eager dagger]

Does he tell us that?

[winged ore]

we are told that yes

[eager dagger]

Where?

[winged ore]

the VM exist for a reason, and then the conversation about them

[mental ice]

I assume Albrecht saw himself in Roathe, but that is just my assumption. Otherwise Albrecht has no reason to entertain Roathe's request...unless it serves Albrecht, and knowing him, it does.

[winged ore]

the convo after having heard to ALL the VMs btw

[eager dagger]

Duh, but which one? Furthest I got was he realized he went with Albrect willingly

[winged ore]

that one

and the VMs

[solid otter]

I mean. Albrecht does do pointless things sometimes. It served him no purpose to allow kaya to ramble about her theories to him, he likely saw Euleria in Kaya

[eager dagger]

I gotta listen to it again then

[pastel pasture]

I mean. Albrecht really regrets his decisions in life. He could have wiped Roathe's memories as a test. If Roathe could find redemption then that means Albrecht can find it too.

[winged ore]

specifically the last voice message iirc

[eager dagger]

Why would Albrect see a mind wipe as redemption tho? Just cuz he wouldn’t know how bad he really is anymore?

[solid otter]

This is the man who has a clothing store called "Timeless Style", he is just like that

[solid otter]

Roathe's redemption, the good ending

Thats what Albrecht wants to see

[pastel pasture]

I think the idea is. "is evil something innate or something you become"

[mental ice]

Agreed with both of you, @solid otter and @pastel pasture , Albrecht is complex, his motives aren't black and white either

[pastel pasture]

if Roathe without his memories can't find redemption, then that means some people are just born evil.

[eager dagger]

Feels a bit self serving but scientific if nothing else

[winged ore]

you also learn a lot about Albrecht if you listen to his notes on the walls of the necramech room

[solid otter]

Its guilt. Thats what Guilt does.

[pastel pasture]

Roathe with his memories was probably already close to giving up the orokin lifestyle

[eager dagger]

Oh that’s mildly insane

[winged ore]

xata, ris, etc

[mental ice]

Question is, would Redemption mean ANYTHING if one had no memories of what redemption is supposed to be for?

[solid otter]

Along with his Notes

[eager dagger]

Yeah no that checks out it’s just such an insane move

[solid otter]

His notes tell a much better story, and aren't biased. The notes are not meant to be read by us.

[pastel pasture]

Albrecht is anything but someone who thinks everything through first

[eager dagger]

I think the “redemption” is you have no idea how bad you are anymore - you don’t have to live with it

[solid otter]

This is the man who used a train to protect his lover.

He is just like that.

[eager dagger]

🤣🤣🤣 I forgot about the train

[pastel pasture]

he didn't think "is protoframing these people a good idea" he just did it. It could have gone better so his next batch was made with expressed approval of the person

[winged ore]

the why would wiping someone's memories redeem them, goes back to the argument of "is evil innate or nah"

[pastel pasture]

None of the Hex knew what they were getting into

Round table and triad did.

because Albrecht doesn't think things through first, he acts and then adapts

[solid otter]

He does express regret for not being able to give any comfort to the hex

[winged ore]

so if someone as evil as Roathe can forget and grow to be someone else, that means evil is not innate but taught

[solid otter]

Isnt thst like. The way to test shit? Hypothesis, test, record, alter, repeat?

[eager dagger]

Because you as the person who gets wiped don’t have to live with the guilt of how terrible you are - it’s so self serving and fits for an Albrect move it’s the selfish choice

[winged ore]

yes, Albrecht is selfish

[solid otter]

I mean, not when it was asked of him to do

[pastel pasture]

I suppose so, but peoples' lives are not an experiment

[solid otter]

He is yeah, but humans are just selfish

[nocturne musk]

wdym?

[winged ore]

but also, he did offer it to Roathe, no one forced him

[eager dagger]

Operating from a place of he’s doing it to roathe to see how he turns out

[pastel pasture]

Albrecht didn't consider the morals, nor if things would go better if he had explained everything first

[solid otter]

We actually still dont know why he made the hex

[pastel pasture]

he found out things would have gone better if he explained first. so batch 2 and 3 were explained

[eager dagger]

This whole convo completely changed how I view the memory wipe now

[mental ice]

Albrecht is difficult and yeah selfish, he's a scientist as roathe put it, so I think he views people as data, as numbers. If Albrecht's wife story is anything to go by, he just doesn't seem to genuinely care, or even if he does, it's hard to tell how far that goes, is it genuine care of himself claiming it is.

[solid otter]

The vessels came after

[pastel pasture]

Frankly? it was probably the spare parts theory

[eager dagger]

Research for the vessels

[winged ore]

Well yeah, Albrecht is flawed and we established he regrets his choices

[pastel pasture]

Albrecht wasn't certain if the helminth could successfully print a warframe. so he made warframes for the Drifter to use

[solid otter]

... he was forcibly married to a woman. He aint gonna love her, especially if he is a gay man.

I think we're missing that, or Roathe forgot

[pastel pasture]

I suppose he did know the Drifter could time loop. MAYBE he made the hex for more durable companions

[winged ore]

Tbf I assume Orokin had marriages of convenience anyway

[solid otter]

Gay men typically dont like women 😭

[pastel pasture]

but honestly the befriend the hex thing seemed like one of his iconic afterthoughts

[mental ice]

I find Albrecht more as a Bi, or perhaps he doesn't care about such notion as gender really 🤔 he ight view people as just people, a biological construct ect.

[eager dagger]

Wasn’t forcibly married he was given a wife to settle him down because his science projects were going off the wall

[amber terrace]

If I may pester you for a bit of clarification, when you say “wait for DE to fix it”, does that mean that I am to just drop/ignore KIM chats until the bugs are fixed? Pinging because message is old, mb

[solid otter]

What do you think that is?

[winged ore]

is it implied he is gay when Rusalka is interrogating him

[pastel pasture]

Albrecht was an Orokin. He may have been one of the better ones but in the end he was probably pansexual

[solid otter]

"Here go have a wife"

Thats. A forced... marriage.

[mental ice]

Yeah, I think the pansexual is more likely

[solid otter]

Thats an arranged marriage

[winged ore]

"Aren't you happy to see me"
spits "not my type"

[uncut solar]

does resetting the triad also reset the descendia counter?

[solid otter]

I dont think hes pan either???

[eager dagger]

Given is not forced they used words specifically imho he seems bi because you don’t have kids like that just cuz

[winged ore]

but yeah Orokin live like 100 lifetimes, soooo

[pastel pasture]

that can mean anything

[winged ore]

I doubt they care about sexuality and gender much

[solid otter]

He was explicitly not like other orokin when it came to that

[winged ore]

she then after that shifts to look like Loid

[solid otter]

The one person he has been shown to be attracted to, is a man.

[eager dagger]

DO NOT RESET IT WILL LOCK YOU OUT

[winged ore]

that I agree with

[uncut solar]

uh?

[solid otter]

Dont start about "oh they had a kid" I could go on about how many gay men have had kids because thats what society wanted

[uncut solar]

i asked a very direct question

[eager dagger]

If you reset the triad your Kim’s get locked out

[mental ice]

Why not? I mean, he was an orokin, he lived LOOONG life, he could have his share of anyone but he didn't seem to care about flesh pleasures. Sure, he got arranged marriage, but he still didn't care, but that doesn't make him either gay or not. He does care about Loid now (at least he claims he does)

[pastel pasture]

they had a loid

[uncut solar]

that is not my question, i dont want to come off as rude but

[eager dagger]

You gotta take the story as it’s given to you

[pastel pasture]

having a butler is like having a dog. you do it for practice (joke)

[solid otter]

It. Makes him. Gay. Because hes screwing the butler.

[pastel pasture]

wait....guys

[solid otter]

Hes. In a loving relationship.

[pastel pasture]

Albrecht did the butler....

[solid otter]

With a man.

[eager dagger]

My fault - no it does not

[pastel pasture]

get it? like the butler did it...but reverse

[winged ore]

yes, he had no interest, because that would typically include women

[uncut solar]

and what about the locking out?

another bug?

[solid otter]

looked at woman
not my type

Hes fr bi tho right?

[mental ice]

And if the person who happened to be there instead of Loid was a woman? I don't think Loid's gender mattered, I think what mattered was someone who cared and took care of him and showed him this much pure love.

[solid otter]

[supple dagger]

What’s required to get the 2nd loid kim message since I got everyone to agree to help and all are at the best friends/lovers rank?

[eager dagger]

Clearly cares enough about his family he didn’t want to shame them - seem bi to me

[solid otter]

It.

It matters.

They both use masculine pronouns.

That is a gay person.

[winged ore]

pretty sure the family does not know Albrecht is dating Loid? idk actually

[eager dagger]

Yes if you rest you got locked out of Kim endings it messed up the chat somehow so until a hotfix don’t reset

[solid otter]

Grandma does lol

[winged ore]

oh is that in the cutscene that's bugged?

[pastel pasture]

NGL to you guys

Grandmother seems like a really cool grandma

[solid otter]

"Whooping it up with the butler" okay grandma. I see how it is.

[solid otter]

Mhm. Post cutscene actually

[uncut solar]

you are talking about an entirely made up scenario, how is this a solid point in any way

[winged ore]

I can't wait for DE to be back

[solid otter]

He has shown no affection towards a woman that isnt seen as parental affection

[pastel pasture]

DE is going to be gone for 6 years... (joke nobody will get)

[solid otter]

How.

How is he bi????

[uncut solar]

yeah i geniunely dont get it

[uncut solar]

i see.

havent been planning to reset, just trying to know the details

[solid otter]

Im gonna say its laced in homophobia, even by accident. "No hes masculine he cant be gay he must be bi"

[eager dagger]

Correct that was the point of his story when he was down and out and basically dying loid nursed him back to health - DE is careful with Albrect story he’s got a family he loves in a very weird way and loid who he loves in a weirder way in the basement but he just hurts everyone in his life

[mental ice]

Because calling Albrecht strictly gay is limited to what was shown in game. His relationship isn't about Loid being man / woman, It is about love, if Albrechts arranged marriage was to a man and Loid was a woman? Things might have ran the exact same way. What we know: Yes, Albrecht and Loid developed feelings when Albrecht needed someone to care and love him unconditionally. However Albrecht preference is not stated anywhere.

[solid otter]

Also

Albrecht wears purple eyeliner. That man is queer as shit

[uncut solar]

"if" "might"

[solid otter]

Holy denial

[mental ice]

People in Arabia wear eyeliner, they are not all gay

Eyeliner doesn't mean orientation

[solid otter]

This is a white man who seems to be of German descent.

Whole different culture.

[mental ice]

This is not a real world but sci-fi one, there's no germany, IRL rules don't apply

[uncut solar]

your entire argument is based on a what-if scenario that you made up in your head

[solid otter]

So your argument doesnt matter then?

[eager dagger]

I’d prob say let’s drop the which team does he play for question just because it seems to be analysis against a visceral reaction don’t think we’ll make head way here

[mental ice]

While people claiming he is strictly Gay is also on assumption Albrecht would not develop feelings for a woman because it's a woman.

[uncut solar]

you just contradicted your own point

[solid otter]

Also, GERMANY STILL EXISTS IN WARFRAME?? Thats quite literally where we theorise Höllvania to be

[uncut solar]

ok but

seriously, how was "not my type" and then a switch to loid not convincing enough

[winged ore]

it's not just the "not my type"

[uncut solar]

you are just grasping at some sort of non-existent scenario

[mental ice]

Sure, but that could have been refering to the girl not being his type or he already knew it was wally 🤷‍♂️ too many explanations

[eager dagger]

Guys ….kiss and make up

[uncut solar]

ok ill just add to what Thomas said

holy denial x2

[mental ice]

To be fair, does it really matter if he is gay or bi or pan?

[uncut solar]

you brought it up and made up a nonexistent scenario trying to excuse it

[solid otter]

Okay so where else has he shown love to a woman? The forced marriage?

[winged ore]

like sure, he could just be bi/pan/queer, but there is simply no evidence he has ever loved a woman 🤷 I say whatever headcannon y'all have is good so long as it respects the fact that Albrecht has a relationship with Loid

[solid otter]

Where he clearly did not care for her?

[eager dagger]

Who doesn’t like pot or pans tho they’re great ;D

[mental ice]

sure, but ANY forced relationship is a forced relationship, this goes past gender at this point

[solid otter]

So the one thing that could be affection towards a woman doesnt count.

[uncut solar]

i just dont get it. you insisted. you made 2 arguments one of which was made up. you contradicted your only non made up argument. now youre saying it doesnt matter

[solid otter]

Good.

Where else has he shown love for a woman?

[uncut solar]

anyways this feels like a waste of time ill go finish building the new frames fresh out of the oven

[solid otter]

He's shown affection towards his Daughter, Kaya who he likely saw his Daughter in, and Marie, who he treated like a Daughter.

Do we see a pattern?

[uncut solar]

see ya

[mental ice]

Never contradicted myself, I mean, you guys just stubbornly want him to be gay 😅 and you base it on:

• He didn't care about arranged marriage to a woman (But it could be because it was arranged while he cared of science, so even if it was a man or woman, he would not care)
• You state he is gay because he cares for loid (But loid was there when he needed, we do not know if he wouldn't care if it was anyone else who cared, loid just happened to be gay)

I just think you are focusing too much on this gender talk, which might not matter to Albrecht at all, what mattered was: He started to love someone who loved him. Gender here plays secondary and possibly non-important role

[solid otter]

Holy denial x3

[winged ore]

tbf Ezir is not wrong here

[solid otter]

Im sorry but if a person identifies as a man, who likes men

Thats... thats called being gay

Albrecht identifies as a man.

[winged ore]

we don't know that he doesn't like women though

[tight pagoda]

Keep progressing to the best of your ability but when it feels like you've hit a wall, like there's no chats from Marie/Lyon and Roathe is in Anathema despite you doing all 21 voice memos, then just wait

[solid otter]

There's no real proof to it.

[mental ice]

I just see past the limitations of gender you try to enforce on Albrecht, might be bi, he might be pan, he might be gay. Either one would work out exactly as it does now.

[eager dagger]

He’s correct but it’s an argument of analysis vs a visceral reaction and I get why but this convo won’t go anywhere so should prob drop

[covert dune]

It possibly is, the only way you could manage to fix it is to get the Roathe5Day2 and get the "RoatheFail", then talk to Lyon and get the RoatheFix

[winged ore]

like I also consider him gay in my head, but I can acknoledge as much, he could still be another flavour of queer

[solid otter]

Gender limitations???? Homie.

Homie he uses male pronouns.

[winged ore]

or even just demi romantic demisexual

we don't know, tbh

[solid otter]

What do you mean im inforcing limitations

[amber terrace]

Also, am I noticing things correctly when I say that Margulis did jack shit about the Tenno bullying the living hell out of Rell?

[tight pagoda]

There's not really "queerness" anymore, because it's all normalized in Warframe

[mental ice]

sure but his preferences could b e bi, gay or pan, and it still works same way with the current in game events, he doesn't care about arranged marriage, he falls for loid. exact same thing.

[eager dagger]

Plus all the trauma our blue boi has there so many questions about why he’s doing what with who it’s just not a convo that will make headway

[supple dagger]

I honestly don’t think this argument even matters in the warframe world. As seen if you romance roathe and the whole Dagath storyline, the orokin are a lot more open when it comes to sexuality and love in general. The elites (at least implied by the lore) seem to have moved on from the binary distinctions of gay and straight

[covert dune]

He uses male pronouns and it's technically stated to be Bi. What is all this talk about?

[civic skiff]

i dont think you can get roathe fail from failnot21

[solid otter]

He isnt stated to he bi, thats the thing.

[mental ice]

Isn't stated to be gay nowhere either.

[eager dagger]

Dawg this whole convo is a mess

[solid otter]

We assumed him to be because he had a wife and a child. Turns out, the wife was from an arranged marriage.

[uncut solar]

ill just chime in one last time. If you write him off as bi or pan or gay because theres no proof of the opposite then this is just a russel's teapot level of argument that will literally go nowhere because both sides have no direct proof of anything since its a question that ultimately doesnt matter in the slightest

[eager dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-keaton-suicide-tram-lay-on-the-tracks-gif-15732664664650935820

[civic skiff]

if you do the full 21 runs after the convo, he does down the failnot21 and lyon's convo isnt started up if you got it before

[uncut solar]

why did this start again

[winged ore]

^

[eager dagger]

Wait is this yet another chat bug?

[civic skiff]

might be intended

[eager dagger]

No idea nearther side is going to budge we gotta drop this convo

[civic skiff]

to force a reset but i feel like its a bug imo

[mental ice]

To be honest...you are right, we have no stated Albrecht being gay / bi or pan so it's moot point with one side claiming he is gay and other claiming he might be that or pan or bi. Either way...doesn't matter much 😅

[eager dagger]

Not touching a reset till there’s a hotfix 🫣

[covert dune]

If you get Roathe5Day2 you might manage to do it, if not then you have to reset. Although certain someone will disagree I got my Honoria after doing 22 descendia runs in total, I thought I had gotten it but apparently not, it did count the 21 for Roathe to tell me to stop and beg (he begs when you do the 21) but the game did not and so the fail.

[uncut solar]

lovely, now ill go back to leveling jade

[civic skiff]

the not21 flag SHOULD be removed after the 21 runs and there should be a way back

[winged ore]

I have everyone's good endings, so I am not resetting, I am waiting for DE to fix the bugged conclusion cutscene

[civic skiff]

roathe5day2 convo is evil because its the same as roathe5convo8 and has the same outcomes

[solid otter]

I have a video of it, if you want.

[winged ore]

nop

[eager dagger]

My problem I have all the good ending but sitting on anathema right after finished descendia

[winged ore]

I want to get it in-game

[civic skiff]

im just waiting on a potential hotfix so ill see if i have to reset

[covert dune]

Agreed, doing 21 runs after getting the RoatheFailNo21 should give you a second chance to do the 21 runs and allow you to redeem him, it's just idiotic to not have that path

[civic skiff]

ive heard it was locked behind ranks with roathe? but no verification on that on my end

[winged ore]

tbf the path could be bugged, but idk, I never look at the kimulacrums and such

[solid otter]

You aint missing much. ||there's not even dialogue in the cutscene.||

[civic skiff]

i think its supposed to send you back to raothe day 1

[winged ore]

I've been told as much, but still

[covert dune]

You can get the RoatheFail and thus the LyonRoatheFail convo where you have the possibility of fixing roathe with the LyonFix chat and after that MarieFix

[uncut solar]

i hope once DE returns to fix up Kim for the triad theyll give everyone a free reset

[civic skiff]

how do we get that though?

because the roathe not 21 flag is never removed so it always does down that side

[balmy storm]

Wdym a free reset?

[civic skiff]

and there's nothing in the other convos to remove or force a RoatheFail

[uncut solar]

some people reset their convos in hopes of fixing stuff and apparently that part is bugged as well

[nocturne musk]

I mean yeah each log is locked behind a rank but you can sorta have them ready after most convos with roathe after fighting him 21 times

[uncut solar]

reset everyone's grimoire cooldown i mean

[balmy storm]

Oh
Yeah

[civic skiff]

also it didnt help that week 1 had the god room of maphica so most people ignored roathe's farming

i did my two runs on sp and normal then called it bc of the maphica rooms

[covert dune]

I apologise, I double checked and yeah the flag is never removed. I was wrong. This is just unfair, if someone wanted to do the Descendia only when it resets and you get the new rewards you just can't redeem Roathe, basically if no one had checked the Kimulacrum everyone would have gotten the bad ending and therefor had to reset

[civic skiff]

i hope its bugged bc everyone but roathe has their "good" endings for me

and roathe is just bug locked

[nocturne musk]

what god room of maphica

I must have missed out cause I went insane and fought roathe 25+ times farming both the weapon and warframe set

[civic skiff]

there was a room on the 19th floor where it was just a ton of chests

and if you had a box breaker like xaku, limbo you literally got like 100 maphica in a run

[covert dune]

Same, got the good ending for both Lyon and Marie and The Cathedrale ranks are the longest ones, literally takes 10 whole days just to get to Friendly status.

[civic skiff]

so i did my two runs, got 200 maphica and completed my uriel

[solid otter]

Do you have all convos on?

[civic skiff]

then did one more th enext week for vinquibius

[nocturne musk]

huh.

[covert dune]

Wdym?

[solid otter]

Theres an option in the kim system to turn all conversations on, which could be why its taken you longer.

[civic skiff]

in hindsight i shoulda just bought an arcane maxed so i could make easy plat but its ok

ngl i think it sounds about right? for the friendly status?

should be trusted/close

neutral/friendly only has like 2-3 convos each

[solid otter]

-# arcane energise is in Roathe's shop rn, wait for peak market value after the event ends and sell it

[civic skiff]

oh i meant the evergreen shop for roathe

[covert dune]

Thought that option would just basically skip the animation of the Protos writing and that's it

[civic skiff]

butg yes im sittin on energize, aegis, arachne and rage/precision

[solid otter]

Nah thats another option lol

[civic skiff]

to sell after

i didnt even know how much maxed aegis would sell for ive been using it as vosfor food for the last couple of shops 😭

[solid otter]

Albrecht being the cause of a market crash again

[civic skiff]

dump it.

[solid otter]

Dump it.

You looked it up to get the meme didnt you

[civic skiff]

i just dont wanna reset bc i want to get all of marie's captura scenes

[civic skiff]

i have the meme saved on my desktop 😭 its too good

[solid otter]

BAHAHA real

[solid otter]

Just wait for hotfix, if you want you can play pretend in the kimulacrum

[civic skiff]

yea im just waiting its only like 1/2 more days

we ight

[jovial relic]

So I just finished my 21st Descendia run and got all of Roathe's voice messages, but now it says "Anathema" next to his name despite me never promising to not go further. Is this a bug?

[covert dune]

Yeah it's a bug

[jovial relic]

Well that's annoying -.-

Hope it doesn't muck up the family meeting stuff I'm still working on

I even managed to start dating Marie, so I really don't wanna be forced to reset everything

[peak heath]

Did I just lock myself out of the Marie romance?

[jovial relic]

Nah, there's a reconciliation convo the day after that chain, so you can save the relationship and open her up for dating

[peak heath]

Oh good

Especially since I think I hit the proper breakthrough with Roathe and I'm loath to have to reset. Since I've not done so yet.

[jovial relic]

Her lead-in is suitably bemused if you don't have a faith as the Drifter, but you should still be able to make amends

[reef compass]

well you dont have to worry about that because... it's broken for everyone : P

we are waiting for DE to come back to be fixed

[jovial relic]

At least I'm dating the nun already, so there's not gonna be any convo chain hangups in the way of that.

[slate lodge]

did roath friend zoned me or do i still have a chance

[peak heath]

Looks like you stopped when he asked. I initially stopped at said amount, but then the rewards reset and I was like, archon shards are more important than your self-conceptualization.

[slate lodge]

i took a brake or so due to i need more stuff but i stilled played it 2 days ago ween i last played the mode

[peak heath]

Oh no I think it's entirely based on total # of runs.

[slate lodge]

ah

[covert dune]

That is what appears when you do less than 21 descendia, this won't stop you from romancing him but you won't be able to redeem him anymore. it popped to me when I did 21 but it appears to have bug for me.

[noble totem]

Why can’t stalker be a playable character in not jade shadows

The teleport and finisher was awesome

[covert dune]

He is a playable Warframe in Duviri

[noble totem]

Wait what

How

[covert dune]

Upgrade opportunity intrinsic to max

You will have a chance to play with him

[noble totem]

Awesome

[slate lodge]

so i dont need to reset i can still git him if i just do it some more

[uncut solar]

He also has a unique default config which is jacked as hell

Triumbral, primed mods

[noble totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-arrive-gif-25229198

[covert dune]

You can still romance him yes but no matter if you do more descendia or not you just can't redeem him anymore, bad ending with him is locked

[uncut solar]

This is Stalker's loadout

Man is jacked

[slate lodge]

i herd theres 2 difend dates depending on witch ending u pick for him

[uncut solar]

He's very strong too

[noble totem]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-meme-butler-paper-gif-14735317248936290425

How

[uncut solar]

You can just see the default loadout when picking him in duviri and choosing the config option

Stalker runs PSF

What a coward

[vivid cargo]

Glitch want warframe?

[uncut solar]

?

[vivid cargo]

Glitch?

[boreal ermine]

DE, i love you guys sometimes, i just did the chat with the Roathe about what reasons he has for helping the family and i did the Redeemed Path for him.

For the Lotus, it gives me a Big Smile, seeing Roathe wanting to help and being hopefull i would say

[jovial relic]

No longer says "Anathema" next to Roathe's name after I did a quick extra Descendia run, so now I get to wait for the daily reset, I guess

[blazing gulch]

Chilling out

[pastel pasture]

im technically dating Marie now so i should try that

[winged sandal]

why does some of my triad chat reset i didnt do the reset thing

im repating some convos ive already done

[pastel pasture]

triad is VERY buggy RN

like....im not entirely sure they had much time to test it buggy

[uncut solar]

i really hope everyone will get a free grimoire reset if they used it

[pastel pasture]

a what now reset

[uncut solar]

they changed how resets work this update

the book icon

[pastel pasture]

they change everything constantly

i remember back when warframes weren't even in the game

[uncut solar]

now you can reset any of the 3 batches at any time

but with a 30 days cd for each

[pastel pasture]

i mean 30 days isnt much given the last one was like...

24 days?

[uncut solar]

either way, with how buggy this update is for Kim

and how apparently resetting the triad also bugs it all out

[pastel pasture]

they should give everyone a free garuda to make it up

[uncut solar]

i hope they give everyone a cd reset even if they used it

so that everyone could put it back on track after all fixes

[normal hazel]

does this mean i failed the redeem/villain end for roathe?

i hadn't defeated him 21 times, so he sent me the message asking me to stop. A day later, he blocked me, so i went and defeated him 21 times. He unblocked me and spoke to me, but i received this message from marie today.

[velvet finch]

Funny nicknames for Albrecht Entrati you've seen so far?

I'll start with some I've seen

Albrecht "YOUR NAME IS ARTHUR?! I HAVE A VERY FUNNY IDEA" Entrati
Albrecht "Who is Belmont and what's he reporting" Entrati
Albrecht "I love my cat" Entrati

[uncut solar]

The arthur one is gold

[velvet finch]

has to be my favorite one too lol. the belmont one is my second favorite

the belmont report governs ethical treatment of human subjects in research and clinical trials

AND WE ALL KNOW HOW TO THE LETTER HE FOLLOWS THAT

[fading current]

Maybe we should-WHAT AMIR. MAYBE WE SHOULD WHAT?! I’m sorry my transference scrambles your brain and makes you taste yellow but MAYBE WE SHOULD WHAT

[devout lintel]

Currently fighting Roathe and he's just lying on the floor, invincible with half health... I didn't realize that he could just take a nap mid fight.

[solid otter]

I have questions for the second one

Albrecht deadbeat entrati is a favourite

If not boring

[rain otter]

I mean transference isn't a normal feeling it seems.

[halcyon arch]

hello how to get fresh slice ?

[rain dew]

Level the syndicate

[halcyon arch]

ohh okay thanks

[fading current]

Of course it isn’t. It’s very off putting for some and sensational for others. Amir does not like it one bit.

[tall seal]

Completely random and unrelated question, how do you have the option to ask Lyon out? I'm at rank 5 with everyone rn but I can only ask Marie, do you need to fully finish all the KIM conversations for a character?

[fading current]

No clue. I’m in the same boat. Lmao

[solid otter]

You need to have flirted w him iirc?

I managed to romance lyon today

[tall seal]

I seeeee I see

[jagged sable]

From what I see in the Kimulacrum, you gotta fulfill their story arcs in the KIM chats before you can date them.

[tall seal]

I'm looking through right now and that seems to be accurate, yeah, there's a check for all the characters called "WillDate" and i'm hoping that that's what i need to trigger

Flirting with him in the one convo I was able to did not feel at all appropriate so I'm hoping that wasn't what I needed to do lmao

[solid otter]

Was that the one where he was tweaking out?

Because I uh. Did that

[tall seal]

I think so, yeah, I'd have to go back and check

[solid otter]

I even got the honoria for it

[tall seal]

oh that is absolutely hilarious

what's the title?

i did not realize there were kim honoria

[solid otter]

"Soul mate"

He calls us "His miracle" tho and thats. Painful.

[solid otter]

Theres a kalymos honoria

[tall seal]

peak

[solid otter]

"Kalymos' best friend"

[uncut solar]

very easy to get as well

[solid otter]

Take that Albrecht is stole your cat

[solid otter]

The fact they never mentioned you can just pet her now is insane

[fierce kiln]

now get a nightmare mission and a kuva syphon

[stray peak]

This happened to me and I dont know what to do :(

I really dont want to reset

is it just going to be stuck forever?

[rain otter]

It will be fixed when DE gets back in earnest. Which should be soon.

[stray peak]

okay, thank you

[rain otter]

Should be anyway. I can't 100% tell you but they did say they know of Kim issues that will be fixed when they get back.

[shadow forum]

Imagine grineer queen wakes up and finds out about TAU and goes there while infiltrate the ships for it.

[balmy storm]

That just sounds like an operation where we stop them
Also not sure if they’re stupid enough to go to Tau but y’never know

[lunar lichen]

how to get fresh slice for aoi

[balmy storm]

Rank up the Hex syndicate

[feral barn]

I'm guessing it's the second option, but I'm unsure

[undone widget]

Is Marie bug btw? She can’t process her next reply. As she always get stuck at “Marie is typing”

[feral barn]

Likely a bug, do a mission to reset the Kim chat or reopen the game

As for me?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-girl-letsgo-lets-go-let's-go-gif-16728997050260142160

[storm vortex]

question

if i mess up a specific chat on kim and i wanna re do it. do i HAVE to reset ALL the chats and my relationships or can i just reset that one chat

the chat in question is vesimir and minerva

[cosmic prawn]

It's by group, so in that case it's the entire Round Table, so Kaya and Flare will also reset

[storm vortex]

uuuuugh. i got through with flare and lizzie and kaya and fumbled on the married couple

[undone widget]

Alright, like the 21 level tower mission?

[storm vortex]

when does reset hit?

for kim i mean

[undone widget]

Tomorrow, so 12am for me

I unfortunately finished all my KIM convos, even the old peace peeps. Well besides Marie cause she bugged xd

[cosmic prawn]

They changed to to manual now, there's a Digital Grimoire option on the PC that let's you choose if you want to reset

[undone widget]

Even the hex, finished em ages ago

[storm vortex]

where can i find that?

[undone widget]

I’ll just wait for the reset and if not be fixed. I’ll wait for a patch xd, if not. Welp xd, but good thing is I’m dating Lyon

[cosmic prawn]

Bottom bar on the PC

The book icon there

[storm vortex]

oh cool i can restart immediately

imma need to look up a guide for them this time im not messing up a second time

[feral barn]

Any mission

[pliant sandal]

me angy

took me shard that scallywag kuva lich

[feral barn]

It's not a Tauforged shard at least

[night zephyr]

Only one thing to do

[misty veldt]

That happened to me as well. It drove me to finally wanting to get rid of the lich or at the bare minimum get it off of mars

[pastel bison]

You even think how much effort it takes the Fire Frames, to not set all of Saturn and Jupiter on Fire

[night zephyr]

An incredible amount of restraint

[fluid canyon]

I'm completely locked out of talking to Roathe. He thanked me for not doing Descendia and blocked me, so I went and did it. I got all the voice messages and now it says we're best friends. Lyon told me I should do Descendia after I already did it... and that's it for Roathe. I can't progress with him anymore

[fluid canyon]

That happened to me with the very first archon shard I earned when the update dropped. I went on a rampage of destruction against that lich and it felt good

[rough elm]

I reached loved with Roathe and uh DAMN. Bro makes Quincy look tame af. So now my drifter has the 2 spiciest partners in warframe.

[dense ice]

Can someone pinpoint which convo this is in kimulacrum?

[solid otter]

Theres a search engine on the github site

[zenith jacinth]

I mean. Quincy IS tame. Among the hex he's like, the most tame

If you think quincy is the "spiciest" you have not seen the others

[cyan terrace]

When is Android warframe coming ozt

[pastel pasture]

do i spend half my remaining plat to buy Roathe

[dense ice]

You can get them back

[pastel pasture]

hiest DE to get my plat back

[pastel pasture]

one winged angel

[night zephyr]

Menacing staccatos begin to play...

[lofty girder]

Or just us accidentally sinking a Corpus gas city...

[latent aspen]

||I finally asked Lyon out, and I am SO HAPPY we get to have a conversation with our 1999 love. Amir said he trusts me and is ok with it, I AM SO HAPPY!! This was so good to ensure they're ok with it ahhhhhhhhhh!|| The romance is done well. OH! I found if you choose a different response for the messed up convo it fixed it. I mentioned it the other day here

[flat pilot]

not sure if this would be the right channel to ask this, but does anyone know if you break up with a devil's triad member can you date them again?? i wanna see the scenes with all of them, but lyon is my current romance and i would like to get back with him after seeing the other two scenes :3

[flat pilot]

use the convo locator in the kimulacrum website, its a very helpful tool :3

[worn fjord]

Idk if Triad gives second chances after a breakup.. but it seems likely if the Hex has it, the Triad would too

[worn fjord]

Roathe’s dates are bugged for some I heard (date option not showing up), so heads up about that

[flat pilot]

aight im going to wait up a little then, just to be safe hehe thanks !!

[undone lodge]

Not a military background

He’s part of the Hex so he’s been in some combat but he was just a software engineer for ORO. Not even a full one he was still an intern IIRC

[lofty girder]

Amir was responsible for the cloudflare shutdown /s

[undone lodge]

Of course not silly. That was Hunhow, after he gave Suda Bonzi Buddy

[uncut solar]

Cephalon Bonzi

[pliant sandal]

GIMME MI SHARD YA METAL TOOTHPICK

[civic ore]

Archon: NEVER!!!

[last siren]

Ohh i see

[thick jolt]

Amir, eleanor, kaya and flare are all civilians
The rest is either military or spies (velimir and minerva)

[remote raft]

https://youtu.be/r-ymuq0mJLE?si=tJYYVYJF3klCoY42

Choo choo

[south fable]

OH MY GOD HES BACK

[uncut solar]

I have not heard a single positive thing about this guy as someone who joined the game recently.

[amber terrace]

Was there any Dax on the Zariman 10-0?

I ask because when I looked at the Dax anarchs, I can’t help but notice a vague similarity to the “Dax” we face in Duviri

[valid folio]

Do you still need help? Ik which one it is

[pliant saffron]

Am sadge I can't send the trombone champ one winged angel vid T-T

[real niche]

There were no weapons on the Zariman besides the automated defenses, so there'd be no reason for the Dax to be on the Zariman.

[amber terrace]

If I may express confusion, how did the Drifter approximate the Dax well enough to conjure up the Duviri Dax?

[real niche]

The Dax were still the army for the Orokin before they had any real enemies.

That or the Duviri Dax in the story were, unsurprisingly, based on the Dax and Eularia wrote them as such

[rough elm]

Yes he doesn't wanna do inventory lol

[woeful jacinth]

I think my dialogue options with roathe has stagnated.
It just says Anathema in his message box and I understand that I have to go into Descendia to get more conversations with him going but I already did like 7 last week.
Am I missing something?

[pastel pasture]

Roathe goes Anathema (temporarily) until you do 21 descendias

as the note box says

he won't talk to you until you go further

[woeful jacinth]

OOOOOH, okay thank you

[peak heath]

Ooof yeah the permission for romance thing from the 1999 Hex could've been handled better. But that's been cleared.

[pastel pasture]

i love the square spaghetti path

[pastel pasture]

heres a fun fact about that 🙂

[peak heath]

I guess Elanor will be vicariously doing what the drifter is doing through mindreading.

[pastel pasture]

If you hit on Arthur he'll give you a rain check on starting a relationship.

If you then date another hex member he'll get upset and question if you really love them. If you say you can have feelings for two people at the same time he says he isn't comfortable with that

so Arthur has dialogue EXPLICITLY STATING he is against poly relationships

[peak heath]

Oh, I guess Ben Starr won't do anything for money.

But that's good to know.

As for Elanor, her vibe seemed open to it.

[pastel pasture]

yet if you date him and a triad member he'll pull the exact same line everyone else does

"You mean a lot to me, so they do to. I hope i get to meet them eventually." -everyone.

every. single. consent conversation is exactly the same with little personality spins

[peak heath]

I think 1999 was written thinking they were the last wave and didn't anticipate allowing expansion.

[pastel pasture]

Round table was meant to be the last protoframes

[solid otter]

I wouldn't say thats executive dysfunction tbh. (I am a person with severe executive dysfunction)

[pastel pasture]

but money has a way of motivating people

not to say I fault DE for it. I'm sure the protoframes do a lot to support the game's development

[rough elm]

Fair enough, I just mentionned that bc it was the closest example they made

[pastel pasture]

I just wish consent conversations were a bit more...in character

[real niche]

Welcome to "Why DE doesn't confirm hard facts for a lot of different things like exact numbers or timelines"

[solid otter]

I want DE to restrict players more tbh.

[pastel pasture]

yeah

[solid otter]

Gonna die on the hill that the triad should've been locked behind r5 cavia

[peak heath]

Eleanor does seem to be more permissive, and probably blends the easiest? Still very awkward. Like, the second that romances got on the table maybe you should've been able to ask permission in advance. Etc, But obviously it is very heavy on the writing team and Lua scripts can only take you so far.

[pastel pasture]

we need more content gates

[jovial relic]

Considering the arguments Marie and Tagfer have about Entrati, that would make more sense.

[obtuse gyro]

this is arthur 5.7 or?

[pastel pasture]

??

[obtuse gyro]

which conversation is that in

[pastel pasture]

uuuh

the conversation he opens with "now I know why you want to stay"

[obtuse gyro]

this is the first Ive heard of arthur of all people being out of character for the consent convos

[pastel pasture]

the one where he confronts you about dating someone

[obtuse gyro]

then uh

[jovial relic]

It's tied to when you initially flirt with him and he gets all awkward. If you do that and then date another member of the Hex, he gets upset.

[obtuse gyro]

I dont think the whole "you can have feelings for two people" bit is in it

[solid otter]

Especially now that we know that Loid is involved with the triad, it being the end goal to drag him to see the family - realistically why would Loid go do that while the cavia are dying??

[jovial relic]

Dating members of the Triad seems to be treated differently since the Hex is in a different time that's still the "present" for the Drifter.

[peak heath]

To be fair, I do enjoy being able to at least have one of each set. If it was still exclusive then I just won't explore any other romances.

[solid otter]

"Its not cheating if its time travel"

[jovial relic]

I'm sticking to just dating Marie, personally. I rather enjoyed the kissing scene

[peak heath]

Because redoing entire paths would be really cumbersome.

[obtuse gyro]

technically, if you reset the hex right now, and eventually work your way back up, date arthur, break up with arthur and then date a Triad, the booleans should still trigger that conversation

since you only need IsDating and ArthurHasDates

[pastel pasture]

from kimulacrum

[jovial relic]

I'm not gonna do that since I managed to get all 5 of the other members of the Hex to join Amir's tabletop game. Best timeline outcome imo

[pastel pasture]

i meant to reply to you

so uh...see above

[peak heath]

I didn't succeed in getting the TTRPG crew together because I was progressing too fast and missed convos.

[obtuse gyro]

Ah, missed the right bottom of the tree

[peak heath]

Otherwise things went ideally, with no resets for both 1999 and encore.

And I do know they track whether or not a reset has happened ala Lizzie.

[jovial relic]

I think you have to avoid dating any of them before the TTRPG line finishes out.

[feral barn]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[solid otter]

And now Roathe!

[peak heath]

Gamemaster Amir can't have any annoying couples at TTRPG night lol. /jk

[solid otter]

Roathe knows. Especially when Loid is talking to the family on reset. Because that doesn't reset.

[peak heath]

Oh really? I haven't reset but he did mention my ability to do it once. I did say I didn't reset him and had no idea what his most buried of memories were.

I wonder if that changes if you reset.

[feral barn]

Time to watch Loid die

[solid otter]

He has a conversation where he explains how awkward it is to talk to the family who treat him as if he's responsible for loid coming back up, which he is, but he has no idea what to do because he doesn't remember doing it. I think.

[peak heath]

Oh no, I hope Roathe doesn't kill any of the infested family upstairs or Loid. That'd suck (for me).

[solid otter]

No, he wont die

Its actually just. Kinda sad what happens

||noticed that loid, upon leaving, immediately goes to mother first||

[jovial relic]

Kermerros sics a bunch of vulpaphyla on Loid and Kaelli feeds the remains to her fishies

[peak heath]

When something is spoiler tagged in the spoiler chat you know it's heavy. Still, thanks for tagging that.

[solid otter]

They like Loid what are you on 😭

[feral barn]

More like he becomes an infested

[solid otter]

Oh its not, just. Shit that makes me upset bcs im abnormal

[jovial relic]

They like the Necraloid, but I imagine finding out their patriarch's assistant/lover was in the basement for ages might ruffle some feathers

Euleria deserves some closure, tho

[solid otter]

It makes me sad bcs Loid helped raise mother, ||so him going immediately to her is nice||

[solid otter]

Only towards Albrecht actually. They like necraloid because they think necraloid is loid

[jovial relic]

Grandmother will probably just be like "I knew the whole time."

[solid otter]

I've.

I've seen the dialogue post cutscene lol

[solid otter]

||SHE DIDN'T THATS THE THING||

[obtuse gyro]

iirc all the triad have a convo like that, but only roathe is the one who ties it to your resetting

[jovial relic]

.> But she knows everything

[solid otter]

Well

||She knows of wally. And she knows of who "unleashed" him.||

||That being. Albrecht. She knows he did that||

[jovial relic]

But not the rest? I mean... there were a lot of cover-ups.

[solid otter]

As in the rest of the family? Brainwormed. Memory is lost. Mother likely knows of wally, given she's the one who cut his fingers off lol

||Her dialogue compared to the others is so nice. She focuses on Loid, and how loid is, not how Albrecht is||

[jovial relic]

No, like the rest of the details of what Albrecht was up to.

[hot cloak]

yall, its been 2 days with no message what did i do!

[pastel pasture]

i love this interaction

[boreal ermine]

Hey do we know when DE come back out Vacation? I did all the XX99 Conversations, Got everyone together in Reconecting the family even got the secound chat with Roath were he tells his reasons to help, but today nothing, so i assume i am bugged

[solid otter]

Oh no, they were told he was dead.

[jovial relic]

Kalymos is a very good kitty

[solid otter]

Or, was wanting to die.

Waiting to die?

[fringe pond]

this goes hard

spoiler image so it goes here

[jovial relic]

I know the logs from the room with Necraloid topside mention he was refusing to undergo Continuity because of his fears surrounding Wally.

[solid otter]

||Which leads into my idea that Albrecht tried to kill himself by throwing himself into the void, which might explain mother's attachment to finding him in the void||

[solid otter]

Mhm. Couldn't trust that he wasn't wally. Which makes sense. And adds to why he sealed the family away

And people hate on him for that for some reason

"He abandoned his family !!" Would you rather them die

[mental ice]

🥱 morning folks

hopefully later today DE will unbug the cutscenes for the lot of us

[jovial relic]

Well, at this point I'm waiting to finish resolving Roathe's trauma with his memories.

[solid otter]

Real type of therapy btw. Just.... not done like that

[jovial relic]

Did the "please fix this" dialogue with Lyon, but Roathe is acting like a protective older brother with Marie (which I know he won't admit), and it's kinda sweet

[solid otter]

You need to do 21 rounds of descendia, (specifically the roathe fight) so it's pretty chill

[pastel pasture]

I like that Roathe is ultimately someone, despite how much he'll deny it, who desperatly wants to be loved

[jovial relic]

He deserves it, just... not from me. I got my own baggage.

[pastel pasture]

he has no friends, he's never been in love and the closest thing to it was semi-willing at best

[jovial relic]

I'll be friends with him, though

[pastel pasture]

love can be friendship

[hot cloak]

i cant talk with marie, last convo with roathe was about nikoth, im dating lyon and last thing he said was thaank you for being here since then i got no messages is something wrong?

[mental ice]

I like how Roathe himself is in kind of spiral, parallel to drifter's lore

[pastel pasture]

either you've exhausted all conversations or you ran into one of the numerous triad bugs

triad is a mess RN.

[jovial relic]

I didn't get any convos with her despite stuff not being fully resolved in all of her conversations, so I imagine it's the same bug everyone else is hitting.

Should be fixed before the month is out

Hopefully before the next monthly reset so people don't have to slog through those chains again because they think a reset will fix it

[hot cloak]

aaah 😭

[worn fjord]

So I redeemed Roathe, got his help for uniting the family, same with Lyon

As for Marie, I convinced her about Entrati. Tried to do R5 Convo 4 today and I think one of the Booleans is not working.. she thinks I still haven’t redeemed Roathe…

Guess it’s a bug

[hexed dagger]

so i have a bug i think

currently in a romance with marie but able to confess my feelings again lol

[worn fjord]

So I did another convo (R5 Convo 8) and in that one the Boolean RoatheRedeemed worked

[worn fjord]

Is it R5 Convo 8? That convo doesn’t have a checkBoolean to see if you’re already dating her

So it comes up anyway

[solid otter]

Good to see there hasnt been any people getting caught on the trick [confess feelings] recently

[fiery oyster]

I'm actually glad he did

I like that convo, its like all 3 have put aside their differences and are now actually beginning to be friends

not sure what that means though

[worn fjord]

You got Anathema after that convo? Did you already defeat him 21 times or?

[fiery oyster]

yeah, 22 times now

[worn fjord]

Damn… bugged

[fiery oyster]

damn... bugframe

[lusty portal]

if i replay the second dream quest, will it reset my operator customization?

what will happen when it gets to the customization part then?

[hearty pendant]

skips it
you just go to the 'what do you remember'

[lusty portal]

oh cool

[worn fjord]

The only thing bugged for me is Marie’s notes, mostly blank. Even after convincing her about Entrati.. and I think one convo is bugged so I haven’t done it yet

[fiery oyster]

had that bug as well, seemed to have fixed itself

[worn fjord]

R5 C4 where she thinks you haven’t redeemed Roathe or the notes?

[fiery oyster]

tbh, idk lol

[worn fjord]

Lol it’s fine, at this point I rather wait until the bugs are fixed instead of messing anything up

[fiery oyster]

is it confirmed as bugged?

[tough bloom]

wait so am i supposed to reset roathe's memory or not

[solid otter]

Nup

[novel finch]

interesting stuff , this chat happens if youre dating someone , but the game checks for the the hex , but since im dating one of the devil triad , the game has no followup to the conversation and just ends

kinda funny

[fiery oyster]

huh.. I dont think thats meant to happen lol

[solid otter]

More bugs

[worn fjord]

Marie’s R5 Convo4? For me it is for sure bugged because I rerolled another convo (R5 Convo 8) and in that one the Boolean RoatheRedeemed worked with her so yea

[solid otter]

Call me a bug taxidermist for how many bugs thats been collected

[fiery oyster]

tbh, idrk if I got that convo

[worn fjord]

Guess I’m not having that C4 convo until DE is back

[tough bloom]

man if all this isn't intended i guess i'll just wait till they fix it to do more kim convos this is infuriating

[fiery oyster]

whats the convo4?

unless this convo locks it? idk

[worn fjord]

“I've been thinking about how to convince Loid to go up those stairs to finally talk to the family, and... I have an idea, but I don't think you'll like it.”

[fiery oyster]

so, I may not have had that convo

[worn fjord]

Ah okay

[fiery oyster]

at least, if thats the first line of that convo, I dont see it

I mean, there's this one

[worn fjord]

I guess that’s a different beginning line but it’s a similar one yea

I’ll just hold off doing the convo until the bugs are fixed

[fiery oyster]

the convo ended with Marie saying she's ready when Roathe is able

guessing its down to Roather? since its on an Anathema

hm, idk, its either bugged somewhere or I messed up and will have to reset

[muted zephyr]

Based on what im seeing here, for those of us who played our cards right and got all three to agree on introducing OG loid to the family, we can't actually have that happen yet due to a bug? I got Roathe to say he's ready, and today nothing happened

I think i just found out a possible reason why this is. I'm going through my chat history with him, and the one i had yesterday with him isn't there. It also isn't giving me any more

[fiery oyster]

I don't actually know if I got Lyon to agree..

[solid otter]

SHIT.

SHIT SHIT SHIT.

MARIE'S NOTES.

[fiery oyster]

I'll have to wait for the next reset

[fiery oyster]

Nothing there? If so, is a bug that's known

[solid otter]

There's one thing there and it shouldn't be there 😭

[fiery oyster]

What's that? Do show

[solid otter]

"I think Marie would start a romance with me" MARIE IM DATING LYON.

[fiery oyster]

Yeah, I'm dating Marie and it says that for me with Roathe

[night zephyr]

Just another visual bug

[hearty pendant]

yea those aren't removed for some reason

[fiery oyster]

Well, at least DE are aware and will fix it soon

Whenever their well deserved break finishes

[hearty pendant]

probably within a week
first hotfix last year was the 9th

[solid otter]

God dammit

I got to close to them without any bugs

A pretty good run

[fiery oyster]

I think it's just the ending parts, really

[solid otter]

Others have been getting bugs earlier so it was just weird that I never got one until close to the finish line

[hearty pendant]

not a bug as much of an oversight imo
but yea its odd regardless

[solid otter]

GUH

[hearty pendant]

no other notes after that convo is a little weird though lol

[solid otter]

Like she just admitted to both things seen in the notes

But they ain't there

[worn fjord]

I have the exact same note. Even after convincing her about Entrati and the fact that I’m already dating Lyon lol

[worn fjord]

Yea fr😭

[solid otter]

We are in the exact same boat lmao

[hearty pendant]

are we all in the same situation

[solid otter]

Skettyframe

[worn fjord]

Guess we’re waiting on DE before doing any more convos

[solid otter]

Oh yeah and I redeemed Roathe

[worn fjord]

Same!!

[solid otter]

Wow so we are just 1 to 1

[tight fulcrum]

When did inaros come out? I just got him and I’m confused on why his abilities descriptions shows the murmur if he’s an old frame.

[real niche]

Have you considered they rework frames from time to time

[tight fulcrum]

I

Am slow

I know that they changed his passive

[tight fulcrum]

Can someone please explain to me why in the update that takes place on the zariman (Isle Weaver because duviri is inside the zariman) didn’t come with gyre prime, the update that had to do with orb valis (valis undermind) didn’t come with Yareli prime, and the update related to the sentients (old peace) didn’t come with Caliban prime?

[hearty pendant]

primes are on a separate cycle and do not care for the main update cycle
if they're close enough (like w/ gyre and old peace), it'll be the same update, otherwise they're separate

[tight fulcrum]

They couldn’t have changed the prime access order by a few months at worst

[fading current]

Uh-
Funny how it created another Arthur after that lmao

[night blaze]

ive watched this like 12 times to try and understand what's going on and it seems to make less sense every time

[rancid pilot]

i'm too weak, i reset my Hex memories on accident and couldn't commit to dating a different Hex member

[night blaze]

i wanted to break up with aoi but i didnt have the heart so i just reset all of their memories

[mental ice]

There is no honoria related to conclave... :<

https://tenor.com/view/conclave-teshin-warframe-tenno-searyn-gif-12848386983779330178

[abstract sorrel]

🗿

[wild wind]

https://tenor.com/view/teshin-conclave-warframe-better-name-pending-bnp-gif-19402310

[abstract sorrel]

Conclave is useless

🗿

[mental ice]

yeah but there should be honoria for those who experienced the pain of exping it 🗿

[abstract sorrel]

🥀

[rancid pilot]

i'm having a similar thing, but it felt wrong to date someone new even though they got memory reset

it is weird Conclave didnt get a single honouria

like even a simple, do 5 matches of conclave

[mental ice]

de forgot it exists 🗿

[night blaze]

lmao

[night blaze]

dont blame them honestly

[rancid pilot]

worst case scenario, They add a lunaro honouria and not a conclave one

[mental ice]

I guess fair, no one cares about that 0.00001% players who play is 🤷‍♂️

[tight pagoda]

I hope more vendors get Honoria. It's weird Roathe got them all. It's like they're gatekeeping it.

[mental ice]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-with-money-happy-withmoney-swag-dollars-more-money-gif-14116367

Roathe be like

[night blaze]

who gets up, takes a deep breath of the fresh morning air and thinks to themselves "wow, i sure cant wait to hop on warframe and play some conclave; my favourite game mode!"

also what's the canonicity of the gemini skins?

[mental ice]

Dunno, but if you decorate backroom with three of them, it looks like the drifter has creepy taxidermy hobby

[night blaze]

i think that applies to just 1 too

[night blaze]

yeah they dont call them skins for no reason

[rancid pilot]

they are canon, alot of the hex members have KIM chats about "using" them

Quincy asks if you can feel a "soul" when inside of him

[mental ice]

Imagine dating someone, you enter their place and they have 3 life sized statues of people you know...or worse yet, of yourserlf

[rancid pilot]

idk how to phrase that less awkwardly

[mental ice]

lol

[night blaze]

so the hex can leave 1999 with the drifter?

[rancid pilot]

no, it's implied that the drifter uses them only in 1999 instances

[night blaze]

conclave player behaviour lowkey