spoiler-chat

[regal crest]

Ah okay, I thought that was not possible on Warframe

[undone lodge]

To be clear, I meant a guide on like the different stuff you need to consider not actually like, an optimal path

[storm plinth]

Is there an online simulator for Kim? without needing to reset my kim

[thick jolt]

Yeah

Kimulacrum

[storm plinth]

Ty

[undone lodge]

Yeah theres a bunch of datamining and messing around with assets but most of it isn’t public, and the stuff that is is things like Kimulacrum which DE is fine with

[storm plinth]

Wow they already have the devil's triad there

[thick jolt]

Also datamining the dialogue that is already out tends to work better than trying to datamine unreleased stuf that most likely will change at launch anyway

[hearty pendant]

DE even warned us that Kimulacrum wouldn't work w/ the new protos
(it didn't, for a day, because they changed the formatting)

[supple dagger]

Kimulacrum?

Wait why did discord open here thought this was general

[undone lodge]

Website that lets you simulate KIM convos and check flowcharts of all the options, including their booleans and effects (meter increase/decreases, chemistry etc)

[supple dagger]

I don't know what any of that means. Again discord opened here randomly sorry.
I probably know what Kim is later. So I will be back.

[round fulcrum]

can uriel bp be dropped from roates boss fight? or just 3 parts?

[thick cedar]

you get the uriel BP from Lotus no? unless you're making more idk

[round fulcrum]

yea need second for helminth

[storm plinth]

You buy the second bp from him

You can farm the currency anyways

[round fulcrum]

only buy? so it cant be dropped?

[storm plinth]

At least in the current rotation

[round fulcrum]

i see

ty

[wild wind]

......why is today the first time I'm finding out

That Wally raptaptaps on Harrow's ability page

[craggy fog]

Discovered that some months ago

[hearty pendant]

oh yea
tbf he only does it if you have no somachord playing, which is why i never heard it

[craggy fog]

Sometimes I just check it out just to hear it

Love Harrow

[zenith jacinth]

It's the CoH sound, shows up in market screen too

[signal thicket]

Not really a spoiler or anything but wondering if it;'s a bug, During the old peace mission where you need to capture 3 lustrious dax, for some reason I had vinquibus equiped rather than trunma like before

intended or was this a bug?

[craggy fog]

If you let it play out he does the Rap tap tap

[fluid spoke]

Intended

[craggy fog]

It does change yea

[signal thicket]

Gotcha, just seemed odd is all since the next mission I was back to trunma again

[cerulean kiln]

Warframe is just making you use other stuff cuz it exists

[signal thicket]

"Hey check this gun out, isn't it neat? Just 250p on market!"

[craggy fog]

Tbh the variety is nice

[hearty pendant]

there is a reason, wait until the end of the quest if you don't want spoilers:
||your memories are a little.. malleable. that flash messed it up a little||

[signal thicket]

I see

[craggy fog]

Oh my god

[signal thicket]

I finished everything, neat quest

[craggy fog]

That actually makes a lot more sense

[fluid spoke]

||"You can also farm it for free by going through Descendia"||

[fierce summit]

I originally read it as the Tenno’s choice of hunting weapon (since that’s what they were originally going to do for that mission before the Anarch attack) but the “too far” flash messing up your memories of the next mission makes a lot more sense.

[signal thicket]

Who wants to do that when you can get it now now now

[signal thicket]

oh true it does seem like a hunting weapon

Shame my fav hunting weapon in the game is actual trash

Veldt feels and sounds so good but it may as well be a BB gun for what it does

[wild wind]

If you remember the start of that mission, something happened that messed with your memories a bit. There's one or two after effects...

[fickle estuary]

WF team when it comes to making weapons that look and feel AMAZING but have very mediocre stats

Alternox and Ambassador are my fav examples

and like 80 percent of all older snipers for most content

[signal thicket]

Precision weapons in general aren't great due to the horde like nature of the game

Plinking one dude at a time is too slow when there;s like 50 enemies on screen at a time

[upbeat fractal]

Ok i get the hair being better but the face looks so worse than my original face! 😭

[craggy fog]

This reminds me. Is there any use of getting the Plinx for the sole use of dealing with boss enemies

I'm running into that problem a lot where most of my weapons are either dependent too much on like stacking damage thru arcane or galvanised shit against just one boss enemy

Happened again dactolyst recall

I fought for 20 MINUTES

[signal thicket]

Idk I just use this lol

Delete button

[craggy fog]

With incarnon I presume?

[signal thicket]

ye

[craggy fog]

Yet to get that one

[signal thicket]

it's crazy because of the blahaj mod

[craggy fog]

That's a very funny amount of every stat what the hell

Ok I'm gonna invest in Paris prime tomorrow

[signal thicket]

this plus the status evolution pumps it to over 300% status with 2 dual status mods and aptitude

[craggy fog]

Crazy

[upbeat fractal]

Where do you get this?

[signal thicket]

every 3 status effects it heals you and with all the multishot and status chance every shot heals you

[craggy fog]

Deimos

Father

[upbeat fractal]

Ah i see

[craggy fog]

Can effectively stand still

Interesting

[signal thicket]

Not that I need the healing on Citrine who has 25hp/s regen, 90% DR, and 95% slow in a 30m radius and killing in that radius also heals

[craggy fog]

Bows in gen feel hard to use for me in a crowd setting, but do u use this just against bosses?

[fickle estuary]

I love modern bosses that cant be armour-stripped and are immune to status based loadouts

[signal thicket]

my wife. I hope she gets a gemini skin one day

[craggy fog]

Yeaaaaa like I see why but at the same time

No augs?

[proven siren]

Idk why I thought the vinquibus would come with its stance mod the same way exalted weapons do

[craggy fog]

It's pretty easy to get the stance mod

I picked up like 3 extra today in the crates

[signal thicket]

Nah no real reason to without taking something away from her

Maybe I could drop auger reach for it if we ever got range archon shards

[craggy fog]

Fair enough tbh, she doesn't need them to be functional

[signal thicket]

I subsumed her 4th so one of her two augments doesn't even work anymore

[craggy fog]

Oh that's where u gloomed

Didn't notice

[signal thicket]

and her other one doesn't work because I run sentinels

So prismatic companion straight up doesn't do anything

[craggy fog]

I need to invest more in pets

I get really lost on what to get when I try to

And then they reworked it like however long ago and I've been more confused since then

[signal thicket]

dirigia with pure cold verglas turns it into a freeze ray. Literally just walk into a group of enemies and everything gets frozen

[craggy fog]

Oh? What the helly

Is that sentinel good, I haven't gotten it yet

[dire slate]

"He smiled at them with his lower teeth."

[craggy fog]

Oooh shivering contagion I see

That's cool actually

[signal thicket]

but also the mod that gives companion precepts status chance

meaning the chain lighting from diriga instead does pure cold

[craggy fog]

I have all the mods I think from all three open world conservation

I think after farming that bs i just, lost interest

Any other good sentinels also is verglas prime the only good option when it comes to senti weapons

[signal thicket]

Gloom plus diriga means nobody can move

oh wrong one wtf

[craggy fog]

Nice clip still

[signal thicket]

rip

hang on I need to record it again bleh

[craggy fog]

This is why I use the steam one

It doesn't misbehave

[signal thicket]

not the best because they were already half frozen but here

[craggy fog]

Holy shit

LOL

[craggy fog]

This one this one!!

Sorry I'm asking too many questions,,

[signal thicket]

The rocket pod one is decent for spreading status

nautalus prime is the best sentinel for afk since it can kill everything by itself

[craggy fog]

I actually don't like it just for that reason

[signal thicket]

but yeah meta is verglas p and nautilus or however it's spelled

[craggy fog]

It's like I'm barely doing anything

I'll see what the rocket ship is

[signal thicket]

Then go for my diriga one then, it can't kill on it's own, and the cold procs give extra damage to the galv mods and condition overload, and also increas your crit damage

[craggy fog]

Yeaa that's good for me

Also I guess it only really kills if you mod for it

[signal thicket]

only time it kills stuff on it's own is super low levels, or if someone is running like, nourish that gives it damage other than cold

[craggy fog]

Never thought about a priming oriented sentinel

Ty!

This is all massive help I will be working on these things tomorrow

[signal thicket]

Eventually I plan on buying a verglas riven that does -damage and more multishot or something so i can proc it faster and kill things less, plus should be fairly cheap since everyone want's it for killing

[craggy fog]

Never thought about using rivens like that

[robust swallow]

oh, Lyon hears Wally

that's concerning

[half light]

is there a reason for daklo sounding so similar to ordis ?

[fickle estuary]

it's been 8 years and Wally still has beef with Harrow 😭 🙏 truly a dedicated hater

[solid otter]

A lot of people hear wally

Wally is a physical thing 😭

Mother hears him too

[robust swallow]

Lyon is still being chill about it

like "yes, yes, rap tap tap"

the tone tells "piss off, i'm busy here"

[solid otter]

Mother is distressed and thinks its her father. She's not entirely wrong

[cerulean kiln]

It's her brother

Albrecht and the Void had a kid

[fickle estuary]

Albrecht time travelled at least twice and went to another goddamn solar system to avoid paying child support bruh 😭

[cerulean kiln]

Explains why Wally keeps chasing him

Actually Eurelia probably would be doing that too if she weren't a flower

[solid otter]

Euleria did do that

[solid otter]

I mean. We know Albrecht did have multiple children now.

Its not a one off typo now

[fickle estuary]

Worst part about really liking a protoframe character is wanting to use their skin for their voicelines but the base one just looks too damn cool 😭 (Roathe and Uriel cough)

I'm sorry Roathe but your outfit has nothing on Uriel

[hearty pendant]

Harrow Prime > Lyon, Wisp Coven > Marie, Roathe > Uriel imo

[fickle estuary]

Harrow has some of the best skins in the entire game imo

every single one of them is rad as hell

[wild wind]

So, anyone find any Easter eggs in Old Peace content yet

[night grail]

I wonder if the fort we see is a physical location in a tile

[winged drum]

Idk if its an Easter egg exactly, but I found that if your uriel and use an emote the little demons dance with you. Idk if any other summons do the same

[undone lodge]

Sprodlings probably do

Not summons but still

[floral badge]

It was shown on the dev stream i remember then showing that his demons emote too i dont think anyone else does though

[winged drum]

Dang I missed that then

[flat loom]

Okay so, I'm just remembering now

The cavia are actually gone now? Like, they reverted

[flat loom]

Uriel Prex

[night grail]

No

The triad mentions them

[undone lodge]

It was temporary, just while Wally got too close and had that… whatever it was going on with him

[tulip moon]

Hello chat, I got my hands on all fully upgraded tauron strikes and here's my list from worst to best. Naramon, Madurai, Zenurik, Unairu, Vazarin. Zenurik and unairu can be switched around but I prefer unairu more

[floral badge]

Im probably gonna stick with the book dont knoe if i got the patience to farm the rest

[flat loom]

Oh lol, I thought it was permanent

Scared me for a minute

[flat loom]

Yeah I know, I was referring the last moments of the memory digging

[valid pulsar]

Hey uh

Nvm

[hearty pendant]

alright then

[topaz olive]

go, go touch grass, respectively

[balmy storm]

They reverted briefly during the quest, tbh it seemed like a “we couldn’t get the cast for this one so here’s why” kinda thing

[tulip moon]

Don't need to, my life's already good

[flat loom]

Makes sense in a way, operator lunging out of the water to beat the shit out of the murmur was sick

What made it even better for me, was I got umbra as my equipped frame

[tribal stream]

Went into the Trauma Manifestation Arena captura aaand was a little disappointed ngl

This is max light sensitivity

[balmy storm]

Niiiice

[balmy storm]

Captura as a whole needs some updates ):

[gilded sierra]

so uh.... Roathe has had enough at the 20th time you kill him uh

[tribal stream]

I want to get Madurai's so I can run the mod that gives amps multishot in level cap

[floral badge]

Oh theres specific mods locked to them ?

[tribal stream]

No but you can't equip the mods if you don't have the Tauron Strike unlocked for that school

One of the tectolyst mods gives your amp 60% multishot.

[floral badge]

Oh....I'll probably grind all of them then 😭

[tribal stream]

As far as I know, this is the only thing in the game that gives multishot to amps

insane damage boost

[floral badge]

Probably a bug

Need to work on upgrading my operator and drifter barely got any arcanes

[balmy storm]

What?

Oh nvm, thought you meant the mods were locked lol

[zenith jacinth]

?

[floral badge]

You need tauron strike for classes to unlock moding

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah ik but

One unlock allows using any mods

[tribal stream]

Only when you have that school selected

I currently only have Zernurik's Tectolyst artifact, so I can only equip the mods if I'm using the Zenurik focus school.

[gilded sierra]

?

I only have lorak and I have mods from all focus schools?

Oh you mean if I were to use madurai it wouldn't work?

[real niche]

Until you get the Madurai Tauron, yeah

[gilded sierra]

ah it unequips

[real niche]

The mods say "Any" anyway

[gilded sierra]

I see, well... I only use zenurik anyway so I guess thats fine for me

[wild wind]

Right, "Operator modding" is locked behind the artifact for a given school, but all mods are available for the artifacts you have

[real niche]

Crazy how Unairu has the most mediocre Tauron

[fickle estuary]

Zenurik Tauron blast did surprisingly solid damage against SP vanguard for me ngl

It seems like a solid anti-boss weapon

The charge time for it is still kinda crazy though

[gilded sierra]

honestly I don't actually care about the actual tauron strike, just the mod slots

they let amps deal so much more damage

[rain otter]

I think the Tauron Strike is better than people say it is BUT it does need to lower its charge up.

So it's faster.

[gilded sierra]

Its too clunky imo

and the times I'd use it I generally brought a kit already that can deal with the issue far faster by just... shooting

basically its too clunky to build around imo which makes it irrelevant if you built to deal with all problems without its use

[rain otter]

I think the buffs can really matters

When it's fully juiced but I still think the main issue is how long it takes to recharge.

[gilded sierra]

long to charge and the animation, even if its cool, is really just harming the whole thing

[rain otter]

Eh. I think the animation is fine.

Could be slightly faster.

[gilded sierra]

its not even the speed that I have an issue with

its the fact that I cant see where I'm aiming during it

[fickle estuary]

Interesting detail about the Perita Rebellion :
You can tell the Prime Vanguard were piloted by literal children since they somehow got defeated and captured by starving Anarch Dax and Grineer while having insane focus school initiative buffs to help them too

[rugged marten]

what are these for/do?

[grave hornet]

I've gone to a couple survival missions and its simply too slow, yea

like I think it would ultimately be fine if it could be used more but given the actual length it takes to use the benefits it provides aren't worth it

[fickle estuary]

I think they turn into arcanes at the end of the mission?

[zenith jacinth]

They give 1 "order completed" bonus

[fickle estuary]

Oh mb

[zenith jacinth]

Nah those are from mid-mission primes

[grave hornet]

depending on how long it takes convergence orbs to spawn it can take between 5-10 minutes to get to use it and it does like 600,000 damage in a wide area but the actual area is hard to determine just by looking at it

[zenith jacinth]

you are late

[balmy storm]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-the-man-in-the-wall-warframe-1999-warframe-you-are-late-warframe-jojo-gif-4432154459658682236

[hearty pendant]

oh cool the bug that prevented you from logging in during the new war's logout sequence on xb got fixed
in trade, there's a slight visual bug when the void portal opens just before that

[bronze glade]

So, for the descendia, we know Roathe keeps count, is this just of times he died or times you went through all 21 levels? And does going through the descendia increase your affinity with the three?

[left citrus]

I swear is vaulder isent the rhino protoframe I will crash out

HES THR ONLY NICE GRENER

[hearty pendant]

why would he be?

[left citrus]

idk entradi bs or a cephalon or stais pod I dgaf I like him

[hearty pendant]

times he's died, apparently
ik it affects roathe's KIM chats, not sure if it affects the other two

[left citrus]

Also who wins dalko or Ordis

[balmy storm]

Ordis

[balmy storm]

He’s cool but I don’t think he’d be a rhino protoframe

Valdur’s cool but is he particularly important? Eeeh, he was just another Grineer

It would be cool to also see him again but I’m unsure how likely that really is

Though y’know what would be cool, Kahl’s got Valdur genes
No idea how that could ever be revealed but it’d be cool

[hearty pendant]

theoretically, they'd be somewhere in there
assuming that it hasn't completely rotted away by now
current grineer are just clones of clones of clones of those grineer that we saw in the old peace, to my understanding

[floral badge]

Adis calliban protoframe

And yes i know its imposible

[tight pagoda]

It seems tied to affinity. I used my Smeeta Kavat and when it procced, a single orb took me to max on its own

[slender relic]

ok so ive been doing the roathe fight a lot but dont understand how to beat one attack the one where he goes into the middle of the arena and has 4 of the runes around him

it insta kills you even when in operator crouch

[tight pagoda]

Void sling into them

[slender relic]

i tried but it was janky

but thank you

[robust swallow]

oh, right, that actually explains a lot

[floral badge]

You can just jump at the runes while in your warframe

[left citrus]

Cryo stasis

[young seal]

Someone help me understand this, The new Tauron strikes need how many kills to charge it? Just did 8 rounds of ESO to see, got 4,500 kills and it finally change fully. Has anyone else figured out the kills needed?

[hearty pendant]

if you're doing kills only, somewhere around 4.5k is what i've heard elsewhere
they get big bonuses from lenses (any school) and the orbs, though

[young seal]

Good lord, unassisted pure kills, no boosts. 4.5k is a wee bit much,

[hearty pendant]

yea
some are thinking that there's an extra 0 there
because 4.5k sounds unreasonable. most are not getting there in a single mission

the alternative is that they are not-so-subtly trying to make everyone use focus lenses

[reef compass]

I wonder how much dialog has Leon. With the delay to join KIM 4 days in already and even Marie ||already throwing an uh, interesting choice of dialog today|| idk how much we cant talk with him at this rate

[tight pagoda]

It seems partially tied to affinity because once I was capped, I got it fully charged from an orb after getting a charm buff from Smeeta

[tight pagoda]

24+ chats it seems

[reef compass]

Wow they really went all out with this trio it seems if so

Tbf they seem much better written than the 2nd batch ngl

[tight pagoda]

And lots of different branches too

Like Roathe seems to have multiple "endings" that change based on his personality, which is determined by all the chats with him

I only briefly skimmed the Kimulacrum because I wanted to avoid as many spoilers as I could

[reef compass]

I never look there for the first run

And I still havent done ever a second anyway x)

[hearty pendant]

replaying the new war and realizing how much stalker really is just standing there during the hunhow sequence

[reef compass]

Why do people talk about datamines?

[floral badge]

I dont even have them at max i cant be asked

[hearty pendant]

roathe's chats have a billion variables that doesn't surprise me

[solid otter]

So many. Thermometer, Chemistry, LoidFamily, MITW, and some deadass just stop chats from happening

[floral badge]

He told me to work on the family to make sure they dont argue with eachother cause i dont have them maxed out 😭

[hearty pendant]

oh that's why they increased the standing gain of the tokens

[supple dagger]

Why can't I hug her DE? 😭

[floral badge]

They did ???

[hearty pendant]

as well as a couple other things

[balmy storm]

why would they freeze a random grineer commander. especially after what happened and what he would fail to do

[floral badge]

Thats way more than i expected 😭 all that grind guess i can judt fish and stuff

[left citrus]

He could have froze himself

[tough vine]

Why does Marie exactly sound like this, is this her seeing Fibonacci?

[solid otter]

I will be drawing this thanks

[strange dagger]

Guys I wish I just screenshotted the new red text I got after leaving Baro today...

[dense sky]

barely managed 13 orders

[hearty pendant]

nice

[tribal stream]

I'm kinda mad it took that much for people to get what I meant by "You can only equip the mods while playing a focus school you've gotten the tectolyst artifact for"

[dense sky]

i did some quick maths but its like 17-18 hours to fully get all 5 *assuming your managing 13 orders/mission, which is pretty hard, more likely 18-19 hours if you just do 11 orders which i think is much easier to get to

pretty long grind, not as bad as citrine grind though 💔 🥀 that grind genenually felt forever

[reef compass]

I am surprised there isn't a special variant reaching these kind of numbers..

[tight pagoda]

Interesting there's no interactions with her, no lines when she approaches. Also interesting that in the quest and Recall:Perita, she's in her default attire rather than a skin you paid for

[tight pagoda]

Please ping me when you do

[solid otter]

Will do lol

[tight pagoda]

lmao you could even make it Roathe instead of Fibonacci

[solid otter]

Ohhh i could!

[floral badge]

Well im guessing shes gonna be for the next event on 16th as for the skins i guess they didn't wanna bother with the natah skin in every cutscene

[solid otter]

Wait where's the one time i drew Roathe

[tight pagoda]

Cutscenes makes sense, it's a very odd thing to model. Even the Margulis skin would look weird despite being the same "animations"

But not even the extractions?

Also you should be able to access Descendia/Perita from that room too

[solid otter]

Never again

He has a stupidly annoying design

[signal thicket]

ok seriously wtf is recall vanguard on

[tight pagoda]

It's fine up until all 6 attacks happen at the same time

[glad robin]

didn't know mari did fent.

[signal thicket]

Like I was ripping and tearing until I died

and now I can't do shit

[tight pagoda]

Not sure if Discord's being weird but I can't play the video, it's like it's a single frame

[signal thicket]

weird

[tight pagoda]

Most likely discord being weird though

[signal thicket]

it's playing fine on my end in discord

[tight pagoda]

Oop took a few seconds to load

[hearty pendant]

yea its discord, happens to me a lot

[winged sandal]

why does margulis just casually have her eyes gouged out? did we imagine that or did that actually happened

[hearty pendant]

they were burned out by a tenno on accident

top contenders are us or rell

first mentioned in TSD i believe

[winged sandal]

wow she didnt try to cover that or something? or is that a very recent thing that happened to her in relation to old peace?

[tight pagoda]

She wears them with pride

[winged sandal]

ah ic

so she's blind then?

[hearty pendant]

very
"Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind."

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, even though the technology presumably exists to restore her eyes or her sight, she chooses not to

[boreal ermine]

Hey since is new content i think i should ask here, but if not please let me know, so the red cristals on the new Game Mode, what does it do to collect three of them?

[hearty pendant]

an additional 'order complete' bonus

[boreal ermine]

Oooh thats good, i have been collecting them but was very confused on what i was doing lol

[solid otter]

We got a new lotus skin BUT NO LOID DECORATIONS (outside that one from the whispers' update page)

[wise solstice]

What is Loid’s outfit again? And when will we get it as our own

[solid otter]

We probably won't get Loid's outfit lol, given he does have that chest window, It would be exclusive to drifter and people will complain

Its a unique model to Loid

[wise solstice]

Yes, drifter exclusive of course

But man I need to wear that

[solid otter]

It is sooo delightful. Super gay looking but that is in character for Loid

[wise solstice]

Cosplay idea. Time to bleach my hair 💜

Joking. I’m not bleaching my hair

[solid otter]

Do not his jacket is hell to make

No but seriously ive been considering learning wigmaking for it

I wanna brush Loid's hair so bad

[wise solstice]

So real
ANYWAYS

I might make a drifter model and make it a mod for a VR game or smth

[solid otter]

Oh you're a alloid mafia member aren't you/j

[wise solstice]

At least when I get a PC

[wise solstice]

A
What?

[solid otter]

... the ship name for Albrecht and Loid. Alloid, and there's the alloid mafia. Group of alloid fans lol
-# we share the odd desire to brush Loid's hair

[wise solstice]

Oh

Fair…
ISHOULDJOINTHATRIGHTNOW

…am I acting like Amir?
Damnit

[solid otter]

Wanna suffer on tumblr? Go ahead

[wise solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/duviri-warframe-dominus-thrax-begin-again-spiral-gif-17147585142359123507

[solid otter]

Speaking of, i need to go see if there's any new alloid posts

[wise solstice]

Oh tumblr? Nevermind

[wise solstice]

Thrax before we all figured out he was a brat was a really badass character

“BEGIN… AGAIN!”

Coldest line

Why do the villains in Warframe have such good lines

“You can’t kill the devil, Tenno… but you can send it back to hell.”

BALLAS IS NOT THAT COOL 😭

[glad robin]

the sigma male can only be beaten by a mega man.

[solid otter]

Tbf he was written to be a child

Both ingame and irl

[wise solstice]

Fair
but he still dropped one of the coldest lines

[wise solstice]

Did you say…
Mega man?

[signal thicket]

2 mods down, 3 to go

plus the arcane I needs lots of dupes of

only using those rando unranks for the passives of the 2 I actually want to use

[worn fjord]

I love the new chats with Marie so far

And Roathe is fun too

[uneven yarrow]

The way I freaked out when I heard Dr. Glenn Pierce as Ballas

[thick cedar]

thats literally all I could hear

wait a second with this new update did they change what your double looks like

[uneven yarrow]

It nade me so happy

[hearty pendant]

yea wally got the update as well

[thick cedar]

yeah mine is more gray now

and his eyes were orange and black

pretty wicked

[rain otter]

Huh?

[rain otter]

They changed operators and drifters to look better.

[thick cedar]

I meant Wally

[rain otter]

Yes.

He copies your operator.

[real niche]

He always copies your Operator lol

[thick cedar]

I meant they tuned him that he looked different than he usually did

[rain otter]

Read what we said.

They changed how the operator looks. So Wally will also look different.

[thick cedar]

No shit

[real niche]

So then what's the confusion here

[rain otter]

I was trying to answer your question In the simplest way possible.

[thick cedar]

But as far as I remember Wally copied your operator skin tone as well, and my Wally at least now has gray skin

[rain otter]

I'm sorry if was a insult.

[rain otter]

Did your operator get gray skin after the update?

[thick cedar]

No

[rain otter]

Then it might be a bug.

[thick cedar]

idk he looks pretty cool

should've gotten a screenshot

[obtuse gyro]

just dance around the chair, he will come

[thick cedar]

I got an idea for another cool wally appearance

have like a small chance for him to replace your operator/drifter when you open the thingy in the back

[frigid canopy]

Does beating Roathe over and over piss him off? Or only once per descendia reset?

[hearty pendant]

progresses each time, not just on the reset

[pliant saffron]

Do it a bunch, the commentary is hilarious

[frigid canopy]

how many times do I need to do it? I don't want him to snap and like kill somebody

[pliant saffron]

21

[hearty pendant]

21 is the last value
dunno what the "ideal" number is

[frigid canopy]

I get Lautrec from Dark Souls 1 PTSD every time I talk to him lol

[slender relic]

has anyone found out how many unique voice line Roathe has in at the beginning of his fight

[frigid canopy]

all of them are different as of now. I'm at 12 times and not one repeated. I sadly skipped 5-9 tho, as I thought they repeated😢

[slender relic]

im at like 20 something at he's been telling me to turn around and to not fight him

[frigid canopy]

going thru the door skips the dialogue at the start of the fight. I didn't know that

[amber terrace]

In the lore, does Adis’ “birth” predate Hunhow’s “birth”?

[hearty pendant]

probably not

[real niche]

Unknown.

[slender relic]

i think its 24

if i counted right

[frigid canopy]

will the intro cutscene ever change?

[plush swan]

I think there are 21 numbered lines, and a couple generics?

[slender relic]

yeah the last numbered one he said something like "I have 21 reasons for why you should stop and 1 for why I should stop going along with this"

[frigid canopy]

at 19 he just told me to turn back and leave

[plush swan]

According to kasumata.ee, their paths should begin with: Lotus/Sounds/Dialog/Descendia/DHellStage

[frigid canopy]

is this going to harm my relationship with him if I keep going? I'm on 21 and he's literally begging me to stop

[pastel pasture]

Quincy: I love you

Drifter: for the next 18 hours

is it really cheating if I brainwipe them and am doing it in the name of Honorias

[primal apex]

kinda hoping we get the anarch librator's minigun as an archgun since it has literally all the animations necessary to become one

[pastel pasture]

"you don't need to reset to date someone else"

yes I do, next question hypothetical discord user.

[rain otter]

You don't even want the extra dialogs

they gave people? awe.

[pastel pasture]

you can the break up dialogues?

[frigid canopy]

I reset my Hex so I could try my luck w Marie. Man's gotta have his loyalties 🫡

[pastel pasture]

ignore the you can part.

i can pass on break up dialogues. I'd rather just brain wipe them and not have to feel bad for breaking up with them

[frigid canopy]

exactly. Instead, u can feel bad for wiping any and all memory of ur existence! Yay

[pastel pasture]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

plus i like exploring conversations and saying different shit

[main comet]

Roathe mentioned in a conversation that he saw a glass sorceress on a mission in Eidolon.
This is long before the Gara Warframe...
It was probably a Proto Gara...

[woeful steeple]

So how on earth does the tauron strike charge? Is it on kill? A timer? Kills by operator? Finishers?

[wild wind]

Slowly on kills, while picking up a focus orb gives more

[blazing glen]

Just logged on for the first time in forever and my operator just looks like a totally different person. :whyy:

[spice helm]

Um... isn't arcane persistence a bit flip flopped on its power scaling by rank?

[tight pagoda]

The update included an Operator appearance overhaul

[blazing glen]

Yeah, I can see that. Unfortunately, my operator now looks absolutely nothing like she did before and I don't have pics to fix it. 😭

[misty pike]

Yo is this galastra protea prime supposed to take like a gajillion hits and have no health bar?

My HUD was turned off in the settings

My bad y'all

[craggy fog]

its cuf of the 4th ability

its so ass and annoying it just makes her immortal

[misty pike]

I ain't know this

But I figured it out when I knew it

[hexed terrace]

IS THIS A BUG STOP TYPING

okay it was a bug LMAO

[lean cedar]

Okay! Getting a touch fed up with Descendia.

[thorny barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319230310788894811/1449620159441534986/togif.gif

When are we able to talk to this dude

[lean cedar]

I randomly died when there were no further enemies in the room, the mission objective JUST completed, I had no status effects on me that would take me out, and then the game crashed.

[fading current]

Whenever Marie convinces him to talk to us.

[lean cedar]

Gotta rank up KIM chat with Marie. Eventually she'll tell him she trusts you and then he's automatically bumped up to "Liked".

[thorny barn]

I noticed he's the Furniture merchant, which is so lame.

[pliant saffron]

Did you see what the currency was? Ignia?

[finite heath]

you can see hes furniture via the quick travel

i think ill hit liked with marie tommorrow

[spring solar]

So, posting here because it's 1999 spoilers, but I hadn't been to Hollvania in a while, and while I was around and kinda remembered they made the romanced Hex move around...

I spotted Amir and was like "Wait, when did you discover this love seat existed?!" and I couldn't help but laugh. It was a great way to come back to the backroom though.
(apologies if this is the wrong chat for this, just wasn't sure where else to 1999 stuff considering how far along it is in the play time)

[steep hemlock]

I mean marie is hot, but Roathe begging to stop is kinda hotter... does anyone remember his safeword?

[tropic venture]

Nitokh's discord account found

[steep hemlock]

I wish we had a japanese VA to hear that yamete kudasai after 18 kills ;-;

[tropic venture]

get Kenjirō Tsuda back to voice him

[floral badge]

Just realised he says how many times we fight him 😭

[simple patrol]

Hey wally, comfortable?

[delicate glacier]

Why are they so huge

Is Galastra pumping them with Helminth Roids

[opaque dove]

Having a KIM chat With Roathe. ||Petros. Father. Vilcor||

[fathom nexus]

I feel like my guess about archon shards being related to Adis is getting more and more sound

[tropic venture]

crystallized Xenoflora sap

[delicate glacier]

If thats how it is im gonna have a hard time forgiving Erra

Or worse

Erra 'resurrected' the Guardians as Archons, who's to say Erra couldnt have found Adis' corpse and turned him into one too

[rotund belfry]

how do you charge the operator ultimate

[tropic venture]

Kill enemies, pick up Focus orbs

having focus lenses equipped also gives a passive charge rate boost

rn the charge rate seems bugged outside of Perita Rebellion tho

[rotund belfry]

you have to kill enemeis with the operator or can you do it with the warframe too?

bc if its jsut operator i am cooked

[tropic venture]

any kills

[fathom nexus]

U can equip lens on archguns and all for boosting the odds further?

[rotund belfry]

does it work with the drifter? bc i am killing enemies and it doesnt charge

[tropic venture]

@rotund belfry

[rotund belfry]

oh

[tropic venture]

read the chat

[fathom nexus]

I'm sure they haven't paused the hotfixing yet

[rotund belfry]

sad

[fathom nexus]

Also I'm sure they're gonna back off from persistence nerf

[craggy fog]

Ty for the build I've started getting this going now

It's so fun LOL

[tame canopy]

oh hell yeah im at the part where we tell arthur about our wf

Gonna pick sevy

muahuahahuahauhahaha

[tropic venture]

it's funny cause there's so many frames who fit better than several of these

[tame canopy]

That tumblr post about drifter from scaldra's POV is evergreen

and like wine, it'll keep getting funnier every new update

[uncut solar]

Like?

Qorvex is probably horrifying to these people

[tropic venture]

Nekros, for one

[tame canopy]

new amir chat about simaris selling us games lol

amir's asking if there's still digital games in the future and I told him on ludoplex

who's mira??? is this a reference?

[cerulean kiln]

Warframe isnt a game it's a platform with multiple games to play

[pale violet]

they're new chats?

[cerulean kiln]

Flip the word

[bronze glen]

Guys I just realised

[tame canopy]

new to me, I mean

[bronze glen]

We were FRAMED for a WAR

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[tame canopy]

....amir

he legit puts his first letter to the last leter's place

[tropic venture]

Amir making hypotheticals of him as a Cephalon

[bronze glen]

Arim?

[tame canopy]

Ohhhhhhh, I alr know he's super fixated on cephalon

[tropic venture]

yeah there's a reason for that

[tame canopy]

Ludoplex is a platform for multiple games
Warframe is a platform for multiple games
Is this diegetic storytelling

[tame canopy]

I think I have some hints (he mentions how code is easier to fix and is more impartial iirc, in relations to why he's (probably unconsciously) handwaving a cephalon's creation's implications lol)

ngl this is like, the 4th day he hasn't done an inv audit, spurred on by me, admittedly

: P

[balmy storm]

Ah, the inventory audit storyline

[tame canopy]

Yes indeed, im on that one lmao

LOL, lmao even, I really am embodying my space trauma nickname

[cerulean kiln]

The past has problems too

[balmy storm]

It’s kinda hard to really say which one’s worse ||(there’s a Kim chat about deciding this exact thing)||

[tame canopy]

||is it marie's KIM by any chance?||

[tame canopy]

tbf to hex members, the kind of bs that we have in their future is within the realm of scifi torture nexus™ fiction to them

Fortuna for example, is textbook cyberpunk dystopia

[balmy storm]

||I believe so yes lol||

[steep hemlock]

so Lyon is angry with us because the tenno banished Rell away? at ealst that's what I get from the zanurik book summoning lines

[balmy storm]

The future is grimdark
The past is grimdark
Everything’s terrible in their own special little ways

[tame canopy]

True......

Although I'll admit, ||I said the future's more dangerous to marie||

[cerulean kiln]

The entire universe of Warframe is grimdark

[tame canopy]

Gonna review a previous flare chat soon but~

This made me chuckled lol, lizzie emoting

[balmy storm]

||1999 is dealing with the techrot, scaldra and whatever ORO will become, the future has Grineer, Corpus, Infested, Narmer, some Sentients and ofc Murmur/Wally to worry about, many of these can be negated somewhat with the higher tech but the future def feels more dangerous due to how much more we know||

[balmy storm]

Yup

[tame canopy]

her rhetoric is wild, I now understand why flare thought they're gonna die soon

misunderstandings happened lul

So this is the part Im mulling over - flare's talking about their backstory on how they're in hollvania and became infested

the fact that flare said they wished they believed the tabloids....
is hollvania's techrot problem somehow not that well known?

Or is this taking place in earlier timeline before the techrot is so virulent I can literally see a stadium covered in techrot in the background in-game?

They mentioned getting contracted with somebody to do a performance there and flare finds him irksome

Im like 99 percent sure this is viktor, cuz this rhetoric feels like him

Anyway, basically, what's up with hollvania's techrot status? how well known is the extent of its infestation outside the city?

[uncut solar]

Its 1999 and it doesn't look particularly developed

Probably a third world middle of nowhere by comparison to where Flare is from

Internet has not been as prevalent during that time

Information spreads slower

[golden berry]

If I may... ||V̸̮̳̹́Ò̶̙̭̯U̷̠͇̔̿Ľ̸̙͙̑L̵̯̈́͑ ̷́̃̂̀N̷͚̈͠͠E̸̾̓̚̚ ̶̀̽́͘X̸̲̓̈Ả̴̲̗T̸̎A̸͚͜͝ VOK,̷̥̹̉͆ ̸MÃ͉̭̎R̷̊̌̅͝Ä̷̾̏͑ ̶LǪ̴̣͋H̸̓K̸̿̕?||

[past apex]

Who’s still playing Warframe 1999?
Pff… you’re behind. We’re in Warframe 1899.

[cerulean kiln]

You’re ahead more like

[tough vine]

The thought of what Prime Uriel couldve been capable of is frightening

[floral badge]

Rell mentioned

[spice pecan]

The Operator changes are awesome, and the cutscenes have such good cinematography.
Holy crap they did this quest really well.

Blurrin' them just in case. Cutscenes from the quest

[night grail]

The ||Uriel entrance|| was absolutely hype moments and aura but holy shit

[tropic venture]

yeah like from our perspectice it's awesome and sick, but actually looking at it from in-universe it's like

a horrifying scene of a child being abused and manipulated to the point of what is almost a psychotic break

[opaque dove]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-warlock-gotg3-guardians-of-the-galaxy-meme-flying-gif-16191848131003490451

[tropic venture]

Top 10 movies of all time number 10-1 this scene

I love how the moment he wakes up the stone turns to brimstone

[night grail]

I love the inhuman movements when he gets released

[tropic venture]

yep, he really just feels like a beast

the tail whipping, stanced on all fours like he's gonna pounce

and the almost possessed-like way he gets pulled up as if on strings

with the chain sounds as it happens too ough

[cerulean kiln]

DE is legit a movie studio that made their movies a game

[obtuse gyro]

funny enough, my crystal ball says you will have to talk about that sometime later

[night grail]

And the music cue going from angelic into something much heavier as soon as he hits the ground. This is not some noble endeavor

[tropic venture]

Haven't gotten full subtitles for the choir's lyrics but the first line is 100% "Laudamus"

which basically means "we praise you" or "we sing your praises"

I also wonder what significance Razul-tarat Kanummu has

[night grail]

Also some parts of the old peace soundtrack really remind me of halo

[tropic venture]

since it's featured so heavily

in the Triad's initial trailer, in the Uriel Unleashed scene and even when you cast Brimstone Uriel chants it

[tropic venture]

heavy Halo vibes from Perita yeah

on the topic of Halo in Warframe

I really hope if we ever go down to Eris' surface to like make contact with the main hivemind it's like a Gravemind situation

[night grail]

Especially Flowers Fall and His Light

[tropic venture]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-gravemind-monument-to-all-your-sins-flood-cutscene-gif-5367290381707139366

[night grail]

Flowers Fall is this triumphant but so heavily depressing track

[fiery oyster]

I think I did a good job on my Drifter and Operator

[tropic venture]

Like look at this it's so cool!!

[night grail]

Just dont think about what took a bite out of Dysnomia

(You can see stars inside the moon by mistake)

[tropic venture]

Lizzie got the munchies while waiting

[frail nymph]

So is anyone theorising whether the revive mechanic originates from Adis or is that just a fun instance of using a game mechanic in a quest, like the login screen in New War

Also I'm back for a bit, hello to anyone who's still active from way back then

[night grail]

Yeah but i don't think the revives are inherently an adis thing

Im sure that he did make them more resilient though

[dire crest]

I think the revives are just a void aspect but I could be wrong.

I’ve been getting some crazy lag in Peralta missions.

[night grail]

At least for the Warframes its surging their systems afaik

Lotus is able to do that remotely also iirc

[frail nymph]

The surging is not just a revive

You have infinite energy after the surge in the intro part

[plush swan]

If you date a male protoframe, should you call them "my boyframe"?

[tough vine]

My top 2 warframes really are both literally Goats

I don't think I can just toss Uriel into the "I'll play it some other time" category like other new frames

[obtuse gyro]

Welcome back Android

nah I don't think Adis is the reason why we have a revive system

[frail nymph]

Hellooo good to be back

[frail nymph]

Well I enjoyed the quest ending a lot more while pretending he's the reason

[obtuse gyro]

like the part that sticks out is like, Adis didnt even revive the warframe

he did you which I feel is a very different thing

like if someone wants to argue that adis combining his "light" with ours leads to weird things like ballas thinking we cant die, sure

but as for reviving warframes?

[plush swan]

... good point.

So Operator might now have a self-revive ability normally associated with Frames.

[cedar crown]

So, something I wanted to ask. The Tauron Strike weapons. How does one charge them for use?

Is it just passive throughout a mission?

[real niche]

Really slowly and you get more by grabbing the Focus Orbs

[cedar crown]

Ah I see. So I guess it isn't possible to charge it in the Simulacrum then? Cause it isn't charging.

[frail nymph]

I mean if the light is now with us, it can be used to revive frames

And if it's just a healing ability, of course it's unavailable when the true operator is dead... A healer can't heal anyone when he is dead

[obtuse gyro]

yes but that doesnt explain the fact that that same system exists for other tenno that arent us yknow

like how Lotus was trying to use the revive system on mirage but it was too late

[frail nymph]

Yeah so that's when I would get into headcanon... About this being the discovery of the revive system

[thick jolt]

Also the protoframes in the comic kinda do the revive animation when they die after the booster shot

[frail nymph]

Kinda like the first time a Tenno controlled a frame, (The Rhino codex)

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, feel free to headcanon lol

I just wont see it that way

[fickle estuary]

The Mirage story is so weird, why didn't her operator just get out of the frame and use void mode to walk away? Were they stupid?

[obtuse gyro]

given the point it takes place in the story, the operators shouldnt have the capability to exit the warframe

[cerulean kiln]

Story was made before Operator was added to the game wasn’t it?

[obtuse gyro]

they should be as they are, pre-second dream (quest) state

[fickle estuary]

Wouldn't that mean that Mirage is just sleeping in a pod somewhere and nothing bad actually happened LOL

[obtuse gyro]

no, but the tenno consciousness doesnt seem like it disconnected

[gilded sierra]

they got radiation procced?

[obtuse gyro]

like how there was radiation that trapped tenno in their warframes, which resulted in their deaths, I posit that if an operator does not disconnect from their warframe before they get rekt to the max, they die too

like even the lotus uses a familiar system, the revive system to prevent this

[cerulean kiln]

Here me out

The Operator of Gara should’ve cut the link with Gara to avoid the explosion

[obtuse gyro]

even in gameplay as ludonarrative it is, I think when your frame dies and you need to revive, youre observing from the pod and arent disconnected

[gilded sierra]

lets just assume radiation was involved in all of these deaths ye?

Radiation is the perfect story bandaid

[obtuse gyro]

Im not going to do that lol

[fickle estuary]

"You cannot kill the devil" unless the devil isn't the main Tenno 😭

[obtuse gyro]

if the sentients could sling that radiation around willingly, the tenno would have faced even further casualities

[zenith jacinth]

you're alive?

[gilded sierra]

They know too much.

[fickle estuary]

Yknow it's funny but I am pretty sure technically hiding Lua managed to kill most Tenno rather then protecting them like it was supposed to due to the second dream

[zenith jacinth]

wdym

[fickle estuary]

Like Valkyr got tortured to death
If Lua wasn't hidden Lotus could have just woken her operator and she would have survived 😭

[zenith jacinth]

eeeeeeeh

[fickle estuary]

Same goes with every single frame that died in the codex stories

[zenith jacinth]

lotus was also on lua so like

[fickle estuary]

She was?

[zenith jacinth]

yes

her chamber was on lua, but extremely well hidden deep within

[fickle estuary]

Wouldn't that have killed her

Due to void

But anyways if that's true that's actively worse

[gilded sierra]

we are the chosen ones

everyone else must die, ig

[fickle estuary]

She could have woken their operators from the second dream to save them but actively chose not to lmao

[zenith jacinth]

enough lua between her and the void

[zenith jacinth]

less shielded than her chamber

[obtuse gyro]

high doubt

with the exception of a few frames most of the time it seems the tenno just disconnects

plus youre asking someone to be able to correctly identify and wake up a tenno what is essentially a server complex in time before they die

[warm sorrel]

Hello! I had a question regarding the new update, is the only way to rank up with the Devil's Triad by speaking to them on KIM?

[soft pumice]

(image from soulframe) I hope we get creative design like this for more murmur stuff when we deal with them again as this is legitimately creepy and unsettling unlike the current design of the murmur.

[fickle estuary]

Marie and Lyon yes but I think Roathe might need you to beat his boss fight for a bunch

[warm sorrel]

I seee. Thank you!

[tough vine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-8306311747146329689

Uriel gameplay

[gilded sierra]

if you put aerodynamics and aero vantage on him his 1 becomes really intuitive to use imo

[noble beacon]

||this is what i imagine how frames look like when you remove the outside shell and see the tenno inside||

[noble beacon]

lotus was also asleep

kinda

[cerulean kiln]

Tenno aren’t inside frames

[noble beacon]

then explain the ||end of old peace when excal prime gets crushed and the tenno gets out all beaten up||

[gilded sierra]

they are kinda half inside? like in a spiritual form?

[cerulean kiln]

It’s more of an animation being animation

[soft pumice]

Why are we spoiling are chat in a spoiler chat. I only spoiled that image because it's kinda unsettling

[gilded sierra]

or more so sprectral ig

[noble beacon]

its all kinda working against established stuff

[cerulean kiln]

Tenno control frames remotely

[gilded sierra]

Its really void magic

[ionic cloak]

it is believe that we were actually there in the old peace

[noble beacon]

especially since in war within we are literally playing vr in our seat in the orbiter and teleport

[cerulean kiln]

We can teleport to our frame and teleport the frame to ourselves

[noble beacon]

yes

[cerulean kiln]

We aren’t ever actually in the frame physically

[tough vine]

Using uriel with infested mobility in höllvania feels like pod racing lmao

[gilded sierra]

I guess since the old peace is from our perspective we could argue that the tenno being beat up is a visual representation of their psyche?

[tough vine]

All yellow shards

[cerulean kiln]

It’s more what actually happened without us ever actually being on Tau

We’re just in the bath digging through memories

[gilded sierra]

well yeah we are in our memories but thats what I'm saying, technically the operator would only see through their own eyes right? so them being beat up would be how they felt at the time?

basically what I'm saying is that we aren't beat up, we imagine ourselves that way and so it is visually represented that way

idk you might call it a stretch or a lazy way to go around something that contradicts itself, but thats just the way I'd see it

[alpine phoenix]

Hey I haven't used Uriel in a mission yet if you bring him into a regular mission like on a Grineer or Corpus shit does he do the usual sneak in or does he rocket up through the floor while Roses from the Abyss plays instead of the regular music an every alarm goes off at once? Because if he doesn't do the latter he should have an exclusive mod slot that takes one exclusive mod that causes that to happen.

[cerulean kiln]

It’s not imagining being beat up we weren’t beat up at all in the bath outside of the almost drowning incident morso we actually almost died when we was on Tau

[gilded sierra]

I'm not meaning in the bath

I mean on tau.

[cerulean kiln]

We actually got beat up on Tau

Just not actually beat up in Old Peace quest

[soft pumice]

The only reason I can think of as to why we fell out of the frame on tau is because we are so far away from a somatic chair thingy that we have to like be inside of the warframes to control them hence why we got beaten up. But that's just my theory

[cerulean kiln]

Nah there’s no transference limit thing

[soft pumice]

Idk different system

[cerulean kiln]

It’s just animations being animations not always accurate to lore

[soft pumice]

De will have to explain somehow

[gilded sierra]

What I'm saying is that in the quest when we see ourselves beat up, its a psychological representation, not a physical one

again thats just my interpretation

[rancid solar]

I wonder if the ‘others’ Amar was talking about during the quest were the other animals that became Archons

[gilded sierra]

them and the other sentients ig?

[rancid solar]

I assume so, kind of from that point on I went full warframe roleplay and was seeing red

[cerulean kiln]

They probably were
all Archons before becoming how we see Archons would’ve been Guardians of Tau

Doubt it’s just an Amar thing

[livid glen]

I do like this interpretation, to be honest, although then that begs the question of why Adis deemed it neccessary to "heal" us.

Although I guess it can be argued that the healing is, once again, phycological, rather than physical.

[rancid solar]

It also would’ve been cool if we saw Hunhow or any of the other Sentients we know. But the quest was still awesome. I like the touch when you revive after being healed and the revive counter is in infinite.

But I feel like the Operator might be a little unhinged ‘RAP TAP TAP LITTLE PIGGY’

[cerulean kiln]

Watch that just being Wally’s influence

Since Void and emotions

[rancid solar]

I mean, every time we fought he was chatting in your head about loving to watch us go wild

[cerulean kiln]

Yeah

[gilded sierra]

Yeah thats probably Wally being so close to the bath

wait no

[rancid solar]

And I hope that we get more about that Grineer commander (the one that took Adis’s body) since he seemed really chill. Even taking our side when we shot down half a dozen of his drop ships

[gilded sierra]

we react to it in the past

Yeah Valdur was a real one

[rancid solar]

Wasn’t it said at one point that every time the operator used their powers the barrier keeping Wally back weakened? Could be that since we were the Orokin attack dogs all that use got him close to being free back then. Wonder what that means for ‘present day’ Warframe

[gilded sierra]

possible... Honestly I have a hard time putting everything on a timeline in my head

if it was soon after we made the deal, then we may not have had much resistance to him yet either

[rancid solar]

I mean, at first I thought this whole quest was just a ‘what if’ but now I think it’s more just repressed and lost memory. Plus those warframe boss fights made me wonder that if we get a quest where we fight and destroy the Orokin if we’d see some Tenno that would take the Empire’s side

[cerulean kiln]

After they killed Margulis, probably not

[rancid solar]

That’s fair, if anything I could see them doing an ‘Old War’ quest at some point

[cerulean kiln]

A detail many players forget is Ballas actually planned the Naga Drums

[rancid solar]

Can’t say I’m surprised. That POS deserves worse than what he got at the end of New War

[gilded sierra]

Man deserves to be glassed and turned into a cephalon used for dumpster cleaning

[livid glen]

Scan him so we can use him in the Simulacrum.

Bonus points if he has infinite health.

[gilded sierra]

I would 100% free Nihil and give him back his Vitrica on the condition his first prisoner is Ballas

I would even provide him my godroll riven for the vitrica, just to give that extra punch

[rancid solar]

Given how much Ballas has caused (new and old war) among other things, I think Nihil would probably agree

[gilded sierra]

Oh I think Nihil would agree, especially if it means being freed for more than 5 seconds from my personal quarters where he serves as a fancy pedestal

[spare cypress]

Is the Hunhullus 2nd phase bug known about or is there any fix?

[gilded sierra]

what bug?

[spare cypress]

we go to second phase and it forces me down applying a incredibly high magnetic dmg proc that is killin me in 2 seconds

been happening a lot

[gilded sierra]

hm... dont remember the magnetic, but falling and being unable to move is one I know

[spare cypress]

and then when I res it puts me in the 1st phase arena

[gilded sierra]

oh yeah.

where you using a movement ability when before phase 2?

When it happened to me I was in Uriel's 1 flying around

in phase 1

[hearty widget]

where did the portal go

[noble beacon]

i didnt hear any tho

[cerulean kiln]

Any what?

[noble beacon]

i actually think its us giving in to what wally tells us is what frees it

[noble beacon]

the legendary naga drums

[signal thicket]

almost got everything I need

I just need 1 more arcane for r5

[noble beacon]

just as we revive you see for just a moment red glow coming from our eyes

[cerulean kiln]

If you didn't hear the loud Naga Drums when the Empire fell silent then you definitely didn't participate

[noble beacon]

i literally played the quest

all we got was devil frame turning into portable icbm

[cerulean kiln]

That's Old Peace

[noble beacon]

i did not see an collaborative coup d'etat

[cerulean kiln]

Naga Drums was after Margulis died

[noble beacon]

oooh

[cerulean kiln]

I did say
When the Empire fell silent

[tough vine]

Just had an MR 7 in a lobby with uriels going all Missile mode lmao

[rancid solar]

Didn’t notice that because my demon operator has bright red eyes

[noble beacon]

the exact same red glow that erra had, lotus had etc

[spare cypress]

welp I literally cant play the Hunhullus mission

we are now on 6 runs with 6 game breaking bugs

[noble beacon]

most of my hunhullus fights are me sitting back and lettinh the 1 tenno that is not bugged and stuck in the instant kill zone finish the 2nd phase

i would like to participate but i am unable to exit this invisible box of death

[thick jolt]

Someone said something about movement abilities breaking 2nd phase

[noble beacon]

skipping breaks it too

[spare cypress]

I literally stood still the entire first phase

[noble beacon]

moving, reloading, having archgun on timeout

breathing

[spare cypress]

ah so playin the game

[thick jolt]

Yeah but a volt casting speed on a macro nearby would count as movement ability wouldnt it?

[noble beacon]

yes

[spare cypress]

it was just me and a Excal

[noble beacon]

SKIPPING THE CUTSCENE IS ENOUGH

[spare cypress]

so unless a slash dash counts as a movement idk

[noble beacon]

it is

[thick jolt]

It does yeah

But anyway bugframe is forever cursed by spaggetthi code

[noble beacon]

we love spaghetti code

we love if else paragraphs

(my fellow coder at a coding bootcamp had his entire program running on an if else paragraph and the teacher looked as if he just discovered an new species while visiting mars)

[flat loom]

Bro almost lost it

[wind sapphire]

lowkey was excited to see adis and hunhow interact during the quest, no luck there though..

[heavy flint]

Okay I know this buried a few hours back and hope this isn’t considered spam or something, but you can actually see blood on your operator’s face that disappears when they’re healed

I can grab pictures if needed but it’s a little hard to parse on my operator due to makeup

[gilded sierra]

Yeah I get that, but that wouldn't go against psychological representation. The point of illustrating something psychological is sort of like a metaphor with the goal of showing the various illness of the mind with physical ones.

[jagged sable]

https://youtu.be/ILN2iGpr1tk
This "Tau 2026" teaser hits different now.

[heavy flint]

Hmm. I guess so

[rotund belfry]

the mask 😭

[floral badge]

We gonna see his grave arent we

[heavy flint]

And I’m going to sob

[plush swan]

There wasn't time for a proper funeral when he died, so we'll have to come back and give him one.

Well, a funeral or a resurrection.

Either/or

[floral badge]

I doubt he's coming back but i want him to 😭

[rustic turret]

So is the exorcist honoria confirmed to be bugged, or? He stopped counting at 16 or 17 but i've killed him another 10 times since then

Didn't do anything different between the runs

[floral badge]

He started begging me to stop after 17

[thick jolt]

We did ask valdur to help with that tho

[floral badge]

Or 18

[thick jolt]

If he managed to get that far

[rustic turret]

yeah same but then he just stopped and started saying things like "are you doing this to debase me even more" or " i suppose this is better than lurking into the crypt" etc

[floral badge]

Ok that can be taken very out of context 😭

[rustic turret]

so i assume the counter is >21

[plush swan]

21 defeats should be enough for the KIM bits

[real niche]

21 should be the max, that's when you get the Honoria

[floral badge]

Lost track of how many times i killed him so idk gotta do the whole thing again tomorrow

[rustic turret]

yea but ur supposed to also get the exorcist honoria just to make sure it did count them

cuz the counter itself could also be bugged somehow

[misty pike]

How do I taxi my homie to the descendia

[plush swan]

"Please bury my dead husband. I have an Executor to assassinate."

[half light]

is it a big deal for lotus to have hidden lua in the void ?

like, yeah, impressive to shove a whole moon inside the void, but did it affect the factions ?

[real niche]

Well they couldn't kill the Tenno if they're stuck on the moon, especially when no one knew they were on the moon.

[rustic turret]

the factions just went to plunder the moon since it was just orokin ruins for the most part

but yeah it was just so that nobody could find or touch the reservoir

[timber fiber]

Ay

What's up next on the prime resurgence

[undone lodge]

Caliban Prime minus the accessories because it’s too soon

And one of the other Prime Vanguards

[timber fiber]

...

Why tf
I wanted the tauron

This is stupid

[hearty pendant]

its the full vanguard, no?
caliban and protea w/o accessories for recency

[timber fiber]

Why would recency be a issue?!

[undone lodge]

Because people paid like £50 for it recently

[timber fiber]

I just want the damn tauron academy uniform

It looked so good in the old peace

[hearty pendant]

they're also the only two out of the vanguard that are still unvaulted i believe
so their accessories not being included makes sense from that perspective as well

[timber fiber]

Voids sake I just wanted the outfit ... Why'd they give me such absolute drip only to take it away

Now I have to roll with the dex outfit

Or the steel path outfit I slaved away for

[hearty pendant]

iirc i use a mix of dex, dax lark, and chymerist

[plush swan]

I've been using Clearvoy.

It's pretty good, except for constantly clipping with my butt.

[night grail]

It was in front of our faces

||You did good, Valdur.||

[scarlet prawn]

I found the Uriel theme https://youtu.be/R5iRY9sj4n8?si=-iKxX_b6iC1M42Fr

[balmy creek]

Working through Roathe's KIM convos a bit and I have to be honest. ||I'm not entirely enthused about getting all this lore and exposition from one (1) guy? Especially when it pertains to history that we could, in theory, ask someone else about. Like, idk, Loid. Someone I trust more than the snide devil, certainly. It just feels like Roathe's gotten some amount of favoritism in the writing.||

[scarlet prawn]

The music in warframe as usual hits hard and is amazing for a F2P game original soundtrack.

[obtuse gyro]

I mean you need to consider that || loid is not orokin and he's with an extremely unorthodox orokin family||

[livid portal]

We can talk to lyon🔥

[scarlet prawn]

Warframe when it has its own doom theme lmao

[reef compass]

Same here, I also found tonight's quite unsatisfactory ||in the end, even if I said the Void had no face of its own, he said I was entrenched in propaganda|| I am starting to feel like I tripped a mine

[pure merlin]

His store kinda sucks tho

[livid portal]

Atleast we get orokin and sentient decorations if I remember

[pure merlin]

An anarch thing too

[balmy creek]

Yeah he's,, Kind of deeply unpleasant to talk to at times. He's so absurdly smug and sure of himself in a way that isn't particularly charming to me. I can enjoy a character who's kind of a prick, but Roathe just doubles-down so damn much

[reef compass]

tbf that lines up with today's talk with Marie, so maybe that was the point too hm...

[balmy creek]

I mean yeah ||but he'd still have some amount of knowledge by nature of being close to Albrecht. To be clear though, the majority of my problem here is: Why are we getting so much lore from this one (1) guy. Why does he get to be the fount of knowledge.||

[livid portal]

Probably to get him to talk to the family by roathe about albrecht and so on if that does happen

[obtuse gyro]

|| which is why we got things such as the warframe insurrection and the fate of otak from loid||

[reef compass]

Oh? Thanks for checking that actually. Most likely when it updates

Yup they mentioned on devstream, want to check ASAP xD

[finite heath]

lyons talking to me!

[spring wyvern]

Random question regarding ||Kahl|| missions, is the password cache ALWAYS in the ||Wolf of Saturn Six|| room?

[reef compass]

wait wait Roathe just said in one idle voice ||"this future"||

[reef compass]

It has been a while but I remember them being spread on some places like behind a wall and such

[spring wyvern]

I've got the four passwords, can't find the cache itself is all...

[reef compass]

Oh the cache, you got me with that one sorry x_x

[spring wyvern]

Yeah... ;-;

[warm sorrel]

Hey so uhhh, I just logged in and got the New Year's Kiss cutscene: My Drifter's complexion showed up just. Entirely green??? (for the record their skintone is set to a pretty pale color)

I'm actually a little sad, I was looking forward to seeing it with the updated stuff

Yeah, I can do that; I know the cutscene is notorious for being super buggy with how your Drifter's meant to look but this was just a whole new level haha. Do you know where I can submit a report?

[cosmic summit]

Your drifter doubles as a shrek character actor

[shadow forum]

anyone have any suggestions to make drifter to be same as Shrek.

[bronze glade]

Do we think Roathe is correct ||about Wally being purely Conceptual Embodiment?|| Or is he just in denial?

[warm sorrel]

Thank you!

[hearty pendant]

its been a fairly popular theory for a while
that ||wally is CE||, i mean
its probably mostly correct. ||it makes sense with the circumstances of albrecht breaking into the void, filled with fear and self-doubt, that he would CE a being that feeds off of those ideas and doesn't know much else||
the bit that gets weird is ||how much power wally has||

[bronze glade]

||Yeah I do think it's likely, but then again, even the Drifter, the poster child for Conceptual Embodiment, seems to have a hard time believing that. I wouldn't be surprised if Wally was an entity before, but gained more power through CE.||

[finite heath]

In person

[dire slate]

anyone have an idea why my doggo is huge right now at railjack?

[fiery oyster]

LETS GOOO

this week is the first week with the new updated Drifter look

[fading current]

||Def what I’m thinking. Kind of the like the mind flayer in stranger things. Existed as a being before but was given shape and form from the being who interacted with/encountered it||

[shadow forum]

A no that is not a dog, that is a small puppy, they call him the baba yaga

I have a funny question is wally afraid of orokin uriel

[obtuse gyro]

why would he be

[frigid canopy]

how do I get sevoris faster? It takes so long to gather enough to build things lol

[shadow forum]

ahh if we just had something to hear who wally is afraid off.

Of course even when entrati said wally is afraid of love.

[obtuse gyro]

the dude has literal love issues lmao

[shadow forum]

you know what is hope TAU shows something seriously funny moments on that case.

[proven siren]

Does anyone ever actually call them “drifter” aside from Nora?

[obtuse gyro]

well, everyone on the kim I guess?

[hearty pendant]

i feel like some duviri citizens do?

[real niche]

The Duviri characters lol

[proven siren]

I don’t think I’ve seen that, I’ve seen them call them nicknames but I don’t remember them saying “drifter” probably wrong though and I just don’t remember

[obtuse gyro]

heres just a snippet

wait hang on lemme change a setting

might be giving out fake news

yea nah changing that setting changed nothing

[proven siren]

Ahh, okay yeah I was wrong

[glad robin]

why mari lookin like that?

she infected by the maninthewall?

[frigid relic]

I just completed the old peace quest and I’m so confused idk what that quest was about it was a bunch of nonsense

I purposely skipped the tennocon reveal and any trailers or videos or anything about this quest

But I have no clue what I just played and I hated it

It was too confusing to enjoy

[thick jolt]

lol

[fading current]

Lmao even

[velvet scaffold]

i get that, storytelling in wf is kinda all over the place, i enjoyed it quite a bit though (as someone who knows most of the lore, but not all of it)

[knotty crane]

with everything thats happening with the story do you guys think we'll ever revisit the Family/Deimos?

[livid portal]

Definitely

[livid portal]

It's probably better for people to understand or have an idea about the story to enjoy it better but that's my opinion

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, what were you confused about

[hearty pendant]

it said what it was about fairly clearly, i thought

[reef compass]

I believe they said they skipped the videos so thats fair then?

[worn sinew]

not really? the gameplay demo was just the beginning of the quest with a few bits of dialogue shuffled out

and the pre-update stream didn’t really give anything You Absolutely Need To Know Before Playing

[reef compass]

As in ESC/Click > Skip Cutscene > Yes > Repeat

[hearty pendant]

they said videos about the quest, not the cutscenes in it

[worn sinew]

they didn’t say they skipped cutscenes

[tight fulcrum]

Apparently, there is a time limit on the boss fights in Perita rebellion

[worn sinew]

[roathe voice] reading comprehension these days

[reef compass]

Idk they said videos I would also say that if my first language isn't English

[echo basalt]

Guessing you've never seen anything with people going into memories for answers

[reef compass]

But then again why would anyone skip the cutscenes the 1st time x_x

[worn sinew]

exactly hehe

[pastel pasture]

do you have to finish the calendar to reset hex?

[reef compass]

Nah

[hearty pendant]

i've never run into a valid answer for that
at least, not for the people that then complain about not understanding

[worn sinew]

“tennocon reveal and trailers and videos” does not mean cutscenes lmao

[pastel pasture]

why did i not get the option then?

[hearty pendant]

its in the digital grimoire thing at the bottom now

[pastel pasture]

oh did they change resetting?

[worn sinew]

because they separated the calendar loop from resetting memories

[pastel pasture]

crazy

maybe this time.

MAYBE THIS TIME. i will fix the marriage and can stop resetting roundtable

[reef compass]

Oh I took it as maybe cause we got a new trio and they didnt want to risk it going full bugout mode

[echo basalt]

Speedrunners

[hearty pendant]

see the second half of the message

[echo basalt]

Really drunk speedrunners

[reef compass]

Maybe those "content creators" that upload YouTube videos with spoiler thumbnails less than an hour after update

[hearty pendant]

the reason i woke up early enough to catch the update itself lol

[dry cove]

So, when are we able to talk to Lyon?

[thick cedar]

Ugh why does Roathe keep nagging me about this deal

[thick jolt]

when you become friends with marie

[hearty pendant]

let the devil make a deal, c'mon

[reef compass]

If you were from day 0 of the update ||I believe tomorrow as after KIM tonight you can speak with him in person||

[echo basalt]

Well liked

By marie

[thick jolt]

yeah i should have used the proper relationship rank

[echo basalt]

Well no today you can

Dude sells decorations

[pastel pasture]

Lyon is already talkable isn't he?

I've seen images of his shop inventory

it's ||disappointingly basic. handful of Old Peace themed decor as of now||

[reef compass]

They based it in Bird 3's shining treasures instead of Hombask big catalog. A bird works as hard as him.

Or Bird 3 is that amazing.

[pastel pasture]

oh i'm sure there will be more to come

I figure Old Peace is like how Lotus Eaters was to the hex.

Mostly acting as a prelude to Tau

[young lake]

Oh it is. Seems like we have Tau's location by the end of it

Or that's what the star alignment piece we see at the end of it and in the quest screen implies

[reef compass]

Afaik from the interviews Tau is going to be a whole new system that will be opening as it goes on and the next arc in Warframe

[pastel pasture]

Yeah but I still think Lyon has an update in him

[reef compass]

With the moon being the first I believe and it will expand later

[pastel pasture]

i don't think he's going to get anything crazy

but i figure he'll get something at least.

[reef compass]

I expect a shop like Bird 3. Some stuff each day.

[pastel pasture]

you know what'd be really neat tho?

sentient companions. unrelated to lyon but doesnt change the fact it'd be neat

[reef compass]

For now we got some skins for flavor

Both on Warframes and on companions

[pastel pasture]

now this is never gonna happen. mark my words